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Post by chapterseven on Sept 28, 2020 15:02:38 GMT
Another reason why I don't like reading people for lack of content is that instead of trying to make do with the crumbs of content on the floor, you should be encouraging content instead. Read people for what is, not what is not. what, did you think I had reads that I just wasn't outing for some reason? Maybe a few questions can get some discussion going. If you had one of the following power roles, who would you use them on and why? (Cop/vig/watch) Regarding that question, all the other inactives should answer it too, maybe this can fix this game's activity. Or else the fights im picking will only be between me and someone else, which sucks because fights are most active when everyone is fighting. I'll just re affirm my initial RVS on mistyx with an actual vote reasoning here: Picking a big wagon at the time with little reasoning and making a post that doesn't answer a question and deflects is scum behaviour to me. I would also like to pose a question, do you not find a similar problem with PenguinD's lynch of BGB? Or Edje's lynch of BGB? It's posts like these that really make me like the Xnadrojx slot. He feels like he's talking with town and actively getting reads out of them which is an important thing. He could have easily focused solely on BGB but instead is focusing on the whole town which makes me thing he's town. Since I TR Xnadrojx that also leads me to believe Litt is town or atleast for right now. It's something about his interactions with Xnadrojx that comes off more as frustrated Townie than scum. Specifically the wording of "Mafia is a Team Game", makes Litt feel like he wants Xnadrojx to see his POV but I don't think scum would reinforce the importance of town teamwork in Mafia. I'd quote the specific post I'm talking about but mobile sucks so I'll quote it after this wallpost with a follow-up. I don't really have much of a comment on Mist I just feel they haven't don't enough for me personally to have anything important to say. Same with Fenrir although I would like to say that I don't like how he said he agreed with me and then disappeared the rest of the day. He'll probably be my next person of interest after BGB flip. Edjean isn't scum but he isn't town either. Like I said before he I don't like how wishy-washy he was with the BGB. I want Sky to pursue OM tomorrow because this slot is interesting to me. Micro and Abdel are playing?  ?? They've gone completely under the radar and I've noticed absolutely nobody talking about them. Gonna look at their posts after this one. Penguin D at the moment is confused town imo I could see them as scum, but currently I don't think scum would have specifically made mention that they were new to forum games because that would put attention on them. They probably be like Abdel and Micro, under the radar and just trying to coast by and see how forum games work. |
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Post by chapterseven on Sept 28, 2020 15:06:42 GMT
Your surety is misplaced. I'm sure that these "other people" have the rudimentary inference skills to see what I'm saying. Your question has been answered in full and its not my responsibility to babysit your lack of ability to think. And don't think I didn't see your fallacy here. Phrasing your statement as a fact and basing a post off of it again doesn't qualify as elaboration, no matter how much you intend to mislead people with it. It is literally impossible to "undermine" a response that's already worthless to begin with, just as it is impossible to "break" pressure that doesn't exist. Mafia's a team game not a solo game. You insulting my thought process rather than explaining your actions is anti town because you're not willing to contribute and I'll leave it at that. . This was the Litt quote, Litt reinforcing the importance of teamwork in Mafia makes me feel like he's frustrated town hoping Xnadrojx gets what he's trying to say. also telling Xnadrojx to explain his actions and thought process in a clearer way is also a townie esc thing imo |
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Post by chapterseven on Sept 28, 2020 15:09:52 GMT
"not that AI" I'm waiting for the part where you tell me how there's some kind of slightly inference to be made here Dw it's (not) coming (I don't think it's AI, slightly or otherwise, just want to hear from Misty on the subject) Edjeanerations does something being novel equal something being townie though? I've never seen someone open with the bee movie script but if they did I wouldn't auto-townread them for it /s BGB remains in my "withholding judgment" zone currently. Only eyebrow-raising thing from them for me is their Litt vote being something of a non sequitur. Now that the games progressed more and Me, BGB, Xnadrojx & Edjean have all commented on BGB is he still withholding judgement. Do you think he's town? scum? |
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Post by chapterseven on Sept 28, 2020 15:19:20 GMT
PenguinD , mind sharing any more reads you have or if the one you have rn altered? You know something I've noticed Micros been asking a lot of people for reads, but hasn't given any out of his own besides iirc scumreading Mist. Also something interesting about that read is that it's been commented by BGB as being the best Lynch reasoning at that point in the game my question for micro Who do YOU scumread, I want to hear what the micro slot thinks. And my question for BGB is now that the games progressed what do you think of the Micro Slot, and more specific about his read. |
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Post by chapterseven on Sept 28, 2020 15:19:49 GMT
Will post more later brb
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Post by PenguinD on Sept 28, 2020 16:35:19 GMT
Alright, so day is still to the 30th so I'm going to do this for now
Unlynch BGB
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Post by Edjeanerations on Sept 28, 2020 16:42:36 GMT
Lmao okay I guess you're right. Fine then I'm taking back my slight tr on Bgb and I expect to see townie shit from the rest of you so I can get some reads. I don't wanna leave OM with nothing to go off of I would like to say real quick I do find it interesting how quickly Edjean shifted from BGB is a slight tr to "let me put pressure on this slot". It just feels unnatural to me like he's not forming his own reads and is just going off of what's popular. Dude??? I literally said that what you said had a point? I'm not going off of what's popular, I literally said I agree with what YOU said about BGB. Also of course I shifted from the slight tr to pressure because from the MOMENT I said I liked BGB's entry message a bunch of yall tried to scumread me and question me about it like I just murdered someone. If so many of you guys didn't want me to have a tiny tr on bgb then why should I? It's not like it was very important anyways, not to mention that I didn't even go from a tr to an sr |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Sept 28, 2020 16:43:57 GMT
anything else i could say at this point would be forced out and not really worth reading Found a solution yet? It really seem like you are scum trying to play it safe. Okay now this is what I like to see. Give me more stuff like this Chap and I may just begin to tr you [plus the UL is nice too  ] Unlynch Chapter Seven
and with that I actually would like to put more pressure on this lot because I do agree with what is being said here. Lynch BGB
This isn't an omgus btw because (in the nicest way possible) I actually don't really care about what BGB is saying about me. I just don't really agree with it Yea, I can't see this as Town The Vote today for me is EDJ or Mistyx. I cannot with this town performance. Vote EdjeanerationsI... don't understand. |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Sept 28, 2020 16:48:57 GMT
and you've sidestepped the question entirely. You're undermining my response rather than explaining why you chose to break potential pressure in that fashion. (yes, you did do that, if you don't realise it I'm sure other people can testify to the fact) Hence I'm asking if you did it intentionally or just did it off a flow. You're also missing the point entirely, I asked why YOU responded the way you did regardless of my reads, you're still lacking reasoning so I'll just wait on a proper response. Your surety is misplaced. I'm sure that these "other people" have the rudimentary inference skills to see what I'm saying. Your question has been answered in full and its not my responsibility to babysit your lack of ability to think. And don't think I didn't see your fallacy here. Phrasing your statement as a fact and basing a post off of it again doesn't qualify as elaboration, no matter how much you intend to mislead people with it. It is literally impossible to "undermine" a response that's already worthless to begin with, just as it is impossible to "break" pressure that doesn't exist. I don't like where this is going and something makes me feel Bomb v Litt could be SvT but I'm going to keep an eye on both of them and see how this interaction ends |
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Post by chapterseven on Sept 28, 2020 17:00:21 GMT
I would like to say real quick I do find it interesting how quickly Edjean shifted from BGB is a slight tr to "let me put pressure on this slot". It just feels unnatural to me like he's not forming his own reads and is just going off of what's popular. Dude??? I literally said that what you said had a point? I'm not going off of what's popular, I literally said I agree with what YOU said about BGB. Also of course I shifted from the slight tr to pressure because from the MOMENT I said I liked BGB's entry message a bunch of yall tried to scumread me and question me about it like I just murdered someone. If so many of you guys didn't want me to have a tiny tr on bgb then why should I? It's not like it was very important anyways, not to mention that I didn't even go from a tr to an sr Idk if this was accidentally implied with what I said but I don't sr you not yet atleast. With that out of the way, here you imply that you gave up your BGB slight tr because everyone was scunreading you. The thing is, nobody sr you for tring BGB at most I said the read was strange. We questioned you about it because it was a strange thing to tr, but as town why are you so defensive about questions pertaining to your reads. Also again don't know if this was accidentally implied but I know you didn't go from a slight tr to a sr you went from a slight tr to pressure I just found it unnatural. |
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Post by abdel on Sept 28, 2020 22:41:48 GMT
Your surety is misplaced. I'm sure that these "other people" have the rudimentary inference skills to see what I'm saying. Your question has been answered in full and its not my responsibility to babysit your lack of ability to think. And don't think I didn't see your fallacy here. Phrasing your statement as a fact and basing a post off of it again doesn't qualify as elaboration, no matter how much you intend to mislead people with it. It is literally impossible to "undermine" a response that's already worthless to begin with, just as it is impossible to "break" pressure that doesn't exist. I don't like where this is going and something makes me feel Bomb v Litt could be SvT but I'm going to keep an eye on both of them and see how this interaction ends why would it be SvT specifically |
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Post by Mistyx on Sept 28, 2020 23:46:07 GMT
hi
i checked in this morning thought day had ended so didn't post then proceeded to forget this game existed
AMA
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Post by Bomb Moss on Sept 29, 2020 2:39:55 GMT
hi i checked in this morning thought day had ended so didn't post then proceeded to forget this game existed AMA You'll find plenty of questions reading through the chat, get to it. |
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Post by Bomb Moss on Sept 29, 2020 2:41:23 GMT
Lmao okay I guess you're right. Fine then I'm taking back my slight tr on Bgb and I expect to see townie shit from the rest of you so I can get some reads. I don't wanna leave OM with nothing to go off of Actually re: the chap response I made earlier, I just noticed this post existed. So I guess the bgb lynch wasn't as much of a 180 as it seemed? It's closer to two 90 degree turns, which isn't that good itself, but certainly better than a full 180 as you say. @chap, did you see this post? Because you seem to have misinterpreted the sequence of events that happened |
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Post by Bomb Moss on Sept 29, 2020 2:42:04 GMT
also guys we got a much needed day extension by way of bad host, so can we make use of it please? What happened to the activity man there are 10 people here.
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Post by bluegummybear on Sept 29, 2020 5:21:49 GMT
Last post of this flood before I head out: 1. The point wasn't what I was calling it. The point is that whatever you were doing wasn't going to go anywhere. 2. Your logic has quite a bit of a gap here. The point is that both alignments want to be read as town. Townies being townread is good for town because a lynch doesn't get wasted on them. Leaving aside the technicalities of whether Edje was really trying to fake a town impression or not, getting town read as a townie is also beneficial to town. Going from "not all players prioritize being townread" to "trying to get townread is just scummy" is a massive disconnect and a dangerous generalization. As is all things mafia, you're gonna have to elaborate on why this specific instance of trying to be townread is scummy. Is it because he's using it as an excuse for something? Is he trying to leverage a protown position to manipulate a wagon? As is, your argument is literally "he's trying to look towny, he's scum!" 3. not really game-related but not gonna lie I wanted to do day 1 for the same reason, because if day 1 is this chaotic, I'd really rather let my partner carry me day 2. It's a non-point. I would be a pretty bad player to assume someone is automatically scum read because they are trying to look lazy town based off 2 post, Why are you under this impression of me? Also I am not flaming anyone..... Now that there is an unknown extension I'll explain the EDJ read. PenguinD , mind sharing any more reads you have or if the one you have rn altered? You know something I've noticed Micros been asking a lot of people for reads, but hasn't given any out of his own besides iirc scumreading Mist. Also something interesting about that read is that it's been commented by BGB as being the best Lynch reasoning at that point in the game my question for micro Who do YOU scumread, I want to hear what the micro slot thinks. And my question for BGB is now that the games progressed what do you think of the Micro Slot, and more specific about his read. Micro is a town lean. Ill do other things later. I leave y'all with this |
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Post by micromorphic on Sept 29, 2020 11:28:26 GMT
PenguinD , mind sharing any more reads you have or if the one you have rn altered? You know something I've noticed Micros been asking a lot of people for reads, but hasn't given any out of his own besides iirc scumreading Mist. Also something interesting about that read is that it's been commented by BGB as being the best Lynch reasoning at that point in the game my question for micro Who do YOU scumread, I want to hear what the micro slot thinks. And my question for BGB is now that the games progressed what do you think of the Micro Slot, and more specific about his read. Yeah sure, I scumread Mistyx and Penguin D and I townread bgb and Bomb Moss. |
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Post by chapterseven on Sept 29, 2020 13:37:29 GMT
If BGB decently explains his edjean read I'll probably Unlynch him in favor of Abdel / Mist, as I like how BGB's been defending himself. I hate to be a LAL (Lynch All Lurkers) guy but as we saw from BGB's Anon game the second the active players died the game did too.
I do find it interesting that they both townread each other, but I don't think scum would do that this early in the game especially with the potential risk of BGB dying today. If anything scum would probably try to play more sperate only throwing minor mentions of their teammates
Micro I'm assuming you sr both Mist and PD for being lurky / not really contributing to town so what makes Abdel different in that regard for you?
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Post by Bomb Moss on Sept 29, 2020 14:01:35 GMT
If BGB decently explains his edjean read I'll probably Unlynch him in favor of Abdel / Mist, as I like how BGB's been defending himself. I hate to be a LAL (Lynch All Lurkers) guy but as we saw from BGB's Anon game the second the active players died the game did too. I do find it interesting that they both townread each other, but I don't think scum would do that this early in the game especially with the potential risk of BGB dying today. If anything scum would probably try to play more sperate only throwing minor mentions of their teammates Micro I'm assuming you sr both Mist and PD for being lurky / not really contributing to town so what makes Abdel different in that regard for you? Eh, the lurker problem is probably the only reason I'd UL bgb atp. Honestly I was expecting more people to jump on me vs litt esp, it's like the juiciest thing that has happened all day. But I guess when you strecth to try and get 20 people to join you get lurkers. spiderz can you please prod people/enforce activity? abdel micromorphic Mistyx PenguinD Fenrirjesus that's half the playerlist. |
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Post by Bomb Moss on Sept 29, 2020 14:05:08 GMT
Last post of this flood before I head out: 1. The point wasn't what I was calling it. The point is that whatever you were doing wasn't going to go anywhere. 2. Your logic has quite a bit of a gap here. The point is that both alignments want to be read as town. Townies being townread is good for town because a lynch doesn't get wasted on them. Leaving aside the technicalities of whether Edje was really trying to fake a town impression or not, getting town read as a townie is also beneficial to town. Going from "not all players prioritize being townread" to "trying to get townread is just scummy" is a massive disconnect and a dangerous generalization. As is all things mafia, you're gonna have to elaborate on why this specific instance of trying to be townread is scummy. Is it because he's using it as an excuse for something? Is he trying to leverage a protown position to manipulate a wagon? As is, your argument is literally "he's trying to look towny, he's scum!" 3. not really game-related but not gonna lie I wanted to do day 1 for the same reason, because if day 1 is this chaotic, I'd really rather let my partner carry me day 2. It's a non-point. I would be a pretty bad player to assume someone is automatically scum read because they are trying to look lazy town based off 2 post, Why are you under this impression of me? Also I am not flaming anyone..... Now that there is an unknown extension I'll explain the EDJ read. I was under the impression that you extrapolated a read from said crappy logic since that's all you've provided. Sorry if I misrepped you in any "flame"-y way either. I was pointing out my gripes with your logic. Now that I've clarified my stance, can you proceed with explaining the logic of the edj read? |
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Post by PenguinD on Sept 29, 2020 14:54:38 GMT
there we have some activity! Alright, to answer this question, I would cop you since you are pushing town for activity but still at the same time could easily be you, I would also watcher you since you seem like the best slot to kill, and vig Litt, a slot that could easily be scum, but also provides some useful information from their flip. ooh spicy. tell me more about litt flipping I don’t think I’ve answered this yet. If Litt flips town, it provides so information about their reads. I feel like Litt is going for a person not willing to defend themself, rather than pursue other reads, being tunnel visioned. If anything I’d like Litt to pursue some other read and not yet go for Misty. |
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Post by bluegummybear on Sept 29, 2020 16:33:50 GMT
EDJ
EDj starts off the game showing the impressions of playing “excusable lazy” The Vibes I get from him is he is purposefully trying to portray a “lazy town profile” From a scum perspective. But this is all just vibes, Nothing is too Major when the game starts. However He is still portraying himself as this profile but it seems he's trying to stop because It has been brought up. Now He shift into a more player who is trying to play it safe but also trying to coast by without look like hes coasting by. Im not saying this is what makes him scum but it supports why he could be scum. What Really makes him scum Is his whole behavior. The: Actively Coasting by and “lets watch and wait” and passiveness.I asked if him had any suspicions of anyone, His reactions was to hide behind a reason of “pressuring” a player who didn't needed any more pressure. Also “this isnt omgus btw” post is an example of overthinking. In Conclusion, Hes really suspicious and has high potential of flipping Non Town. Though I finding mistyx to be a more suitable Day 1 lynch now Micro
Micro tone seems town during the early stages of the game. He seems to be a townie on a mission With the questions and statements he said so far. As for mico read He didn't really explain anything He it appears to me that his staying on Mistyx until otherwise. but Yes I do favor a mistxy lynch also chaptersevenHere is a Question for everyone, What The Read on EDJ?
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Post by bluegummybear on Sept 29, 2020 16:48:31 GMT
I don't like where this is going and something makes me feel Bomb v Litt could be SvT but I'm going to keep an eye on both of them and see how this interaction ends why would it be SvT specifically There is more things to question. What are your suspicions and I would like to know your intake on EDJ hi i checked in this morning thought day had ended so didn't post then proceeded to forget this game existed AMA 1. You showed that you dont read the game. you been asked stuff 2. How do you check the game in the morning and forget it "existed"? This was better off kept to yourself 3. If you are an townie you need to play your part to find/ lynch scum here at the very least. Allow me to help you. Who do you think scum are? |
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Post by bluegummybear on Sept 29, 2020 17:09:57 GMT
Dw it's (not) coming (I don't think it's AI, slightly or otherwise, just want to hear from Misty on the subject) Edjeanerations does something being novel equal something being townie though? I've never seen someone open with the bee movie script but if they did I wouldn't auto-townread them for it /s BGB remains in my "withholding judgment" zone currently. Only eyebrow-raising thing from them for me is their Litt vote being something of a non sequitur. I forgot about you.Want to update us on your thoughts |
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Post by abdel on Sept 29, 2020 17:49:38 GMT
excuse my inactivity i keep thinking dl passed
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?? They've gone completely under the radar and I've noticed absolutely nobody talking about them. Gonna look at their posts after this one.
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