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Post by passthesaltdude on Oct 23, 2020 1:17:03 GMT
Not just gary* it goes for Gary but it also goes for everyone else
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Post by Gary The Savage on Oct 23, 2020 1:31:02 GMT
Sorry, next time we'll all just say it once and not enforce why.
I mean, I see what you're trying to say, but at the same time, no. I'm gonna push my current scumread for a day, not start pushing them and then start a side convo like "sup fenrir how you been" and focus on someone else instead. If people want to hit me questions or reads on someone I'll give them what they ask for. But I'm not gonna stop pushing small, because why would I
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Post by passthesaltdude on Oct 23, 2020 11:06:37 GMT
Sorry, next time we'll all just say it once and not enforce why. I mean, I see what you're trying to say, but at the same time, no. I'm gonna push my current scumread for a day, not start pushing them and then start a side convo like "sup fenrir how you been" and focus on someone else instead. If people want to hit me questions or reads on someone I'll give them what they ask for. But I'm not gonna stop pushing small, because why would I I never told you to stop pushing small, I just asked you to give thoughts on other parts of gamestate that didn’t just include small. I don’t see anything effective in death tunneling someone for a day if you can’t make any other read while you are at it. |
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Post by Schrodinger on Oct 23, 2020 11:10:09 GMT
Votecount 1.2
4* small: Gary, Litt, ddlc, Fenrir
1 Gary: chaos
1 blurb: small
1 Litt: spiderz
Not voting: OM, PTSD, blurb, penguin
smallworldz is at L-2, and would be lynched if deadline were to hit right now. Deadline: 12 noon est 24 october ie 29 hours from this post.
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Post by Gary The Savage on Oct 23, 2020 11:16:22 GMT
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Post by passthesaltdude on Oct 23, 2020 11:26:30 GMT
Sure, here’s some small specific ones How do you feel about Smalls lynch in blurb considering blurb was who you wanted lynched yesterday? Who will be your primary scumread if small flips town? How does the Litt slot feel to you? Have they done anything today to redeem/tank the slot Maybe I didn’t see it if you’ve already responded to it, but I don’t think you have so- How do you feel about Chaos idea of You+Blurb+Om by poe, do you think this was just a bad idea by town, or a wild accusation by scum? the last one for now is-Out of the primary townreads (Slots like Me/Penguin/Chaos) who do you see most likely flipping scum? id much rather you say no answer than force an answer btw. |
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Post by Gary The Savage on Oct 23, 2020 11:48:17 GMT
blurb wasn't really who I wanted lynched yesterday, I shifted to them because I didn't like plur on sfl, who was a tr of mine.
Potentially OM, as they were the roleblock target, however looking back as to who is on this lynch, me litt, ddlc, and fenrir is very well importantk especially seeing as OM isn't on them.
I would not say litt has really redeemed much, however to me when they said they missed my point on small at first, appeared quite genuine to me. Besides that however, they've been difficult to read, and are probably the most NAI/null slot to me.
Me/blurb/OM are not a scumteam. OM lynched both of us yesterday and I shiftec plur onto blurb when I could've just as easily secured on sfl. This is a wild accusation by chaos, I don't know whether they are town or not. They have yet to follow up on why I'm scum either.
I don't know what makes any of you primary tr spots. Previously stated with chaos I could see it flipping either way. Blurb's half-hearted case on Penguin summarizes my thoughts on them as well. Most of it is filler/NAI the only difference is I can sed townie intentions from Penguin. As for you, I don't know what you are. I was on you most of yesterday for originally rvs however to me, you didn't really look at the game, you were just a bystander. Since day 2 however, you've been much more involved in the game, and obviously as I've said before the claim really makes you a strong tr.
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Post by Gary The Savage on Oct 23, 2020 11:50:00 GMT
For the second answer the most notable I'd look into is fenrir, though I haven't gotten much from litt
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Post by passthesaltdude on Oct 23, 2020 12:08:08 GMT
For the second answer the most notable I'd look into is fenrir, though I haven't gotten much from litt Thanks for the insight! I like the real reads and stuff, now if everyone else would get online and answer some questions before day end |
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Post by smallworldz on Oct 23, 2020 12:51:16 GMT
dont go after OM just cause i roleblocked them btw
im near certain there are docs and other bp roles, or that ptsd docc'd me from the kill
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Post by smallworldz on Oct 23, 2020 12:56:58 GMT
PTSD never answered my question about why me being poisoned is public, almost feel like they are lying
Look into ddlc+litt, as well as blurb
spiderz is town,gts is playing too bad to be town so they are my sr now
Anyone else who agreed that i should be lynched cause of the claim should be looked into btw, seriously lynching someone cause y'all dont belive there might be multiple roleblocking roles as town is just...bad (do the people on the lynch even sr me or is it just cause of my claim lmao)
there were better lynches today.
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Post by Gary The Savage on Oct 23, 2020 13:27:47 GMT
>gts is playing too bad to be town
Is there real reason behind this or is this just blatant vanity/omgus
Also PTSD did answer your question and literally nobody is going after OM because of your claim
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Post by Gary The Savage on Oct 23, 2020 13:35:06 GMT
smallworldz I don't sr you solely because of your claim. You've also done nothing to protect yourself and all you've done is sat here and said setupsolving is bad. Neither yesterday nor today have you made any real pushes. Your reasoning is dull and questionable. If you can tell me anything that makes you town that could help you, but it could be too little too late because all you've done is call everyone bad, and not do anything yourself. I could be wrong. You could flip town. That doesn't change anything tho, I'll stand by my push and lynch
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Post by chaostrodon on Oct 23, 2020 14:14:18 GMT
ahhh help im poisoned I roleblocked OM poision usually means death at the end of the day but its usually not announced, perhaps host thingy role? (will also make another wallpost explaining my reads and all questions etc in a few hours;srsly i barely put much thought into the OM roleblock) His first instinct after learning of being poisoned was to claim both target and role. Notice that this claim came before he knew he wasnt going to die. Also that he indeed targetted OM. This isnt chat mafia and if small was scum , I feel he wouldnt have claimed so instantaneously. |
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Post by chaostrodon on Oct 23, 2020 14:17:00 GMT
i dont scumread OM right now I did nullread him last night and scumread blurb Tho blurb would've been a really bad roleblock choice since alot of people scumread blurb so he wouldnt've sent the kill I made a readwall d1, no one else did on their thoughts on everyone in the game,a death on me could mean that the readwall could be used as a way to push someone or distance scum since scum wont kill someone that townreads them usually That being said , the whole "I could have been fearkilled" schtick comes of as a bit flaily. So I really dont know |
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Post by chaostrodon on Oct 23, 2020 14:26:08 GMT
>If blurb flips scum this slot is 90% town >im actually thinking ddlc is probably scum here, my issue though is that his posts come off very natural to me so unless scum partner is directing what to say im hesitant for town to push this just yet litteleven , what do you think of these quotes from spiderz , these are the ones that made me think he is town I trust you know you can explain them from a scum pov but I think those lines are fairly towny, just that scum doesn't always have to play to a scum wincon through words so I think my case for an sr outweighs their town lines bc it's easily sayable. Okay my point here is this. Small claimed roleblocker. Cyan literally flipped alternating roleblocker and rolestopper as town. PTSD wouldn't out their role like that as scum, whether it is just for flavor or not. I believe them when they say that they had OS doc, something else, and OS Rolestopper. Why would he claim, comfirm small's target and out his whole role as scum. My point on lynching small is this. Do we really fucking think there are 3 town roles with roleblocker/rolestopper in them? The most notable here is Cyan, who flipped alternate night roleblocker/rolestopper and then small has claimed all night roleblocker. I doubt there are several of these being town. you're right, did not realise this at all, doesn't make sense for a consistent source of disruption from town when town rolestoppers exist. unlynch derz, lynch smallworldzI had explained my reasons to townread litt previously. It doesnt make sense for scum to townread so many people in day1 because they would end up trapping themselves and also because I vibe with the ddlc fan read, I felt exactly the same way when I saw that line. But the fact that litt has discarded his tr on small so quickly simply because "town cant have so many roleblockers" is incredibly sus. I might shift to litteleven if I dont get a real good justification for this |
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Post by chaostrodon on Oct 23, 2020 14:38:55 GMT
I don't like that there was no kills last night though, based on small's claim, OM is kinda sus right now... This line makes me feel PenguinD is town |
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Post by Gary The Savage on Oct 23, 2020 14:39:31 GMT
why are you on me in the first place? That question wasn't really answered
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Post by chaostrodon on Oct 23, 2020 14:46:27 GMT
As for Gary , I dont find any of his posts scummy , but they werent towny either. His push on small is logical but that isnt enough for me to town read Gary. Like I explained yesterday , it was POE.
But I find his defence today to be terrible. You are aware that bussing is a thing? If you wanna criticize my POE tell me which of my townreads could be wrong
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Post by Gary The Savage on Oct 23, 2020 14:59:31 GMT
uh first off POE doesn't exist with 11 players alive.
where is my defense today lmao.
Yes I'm aware that bussing is a thing but why would I do ot on day 1 to shift plur??? That would make no sense to shift plur onto my partner when its already on town
Also if you don't find me scummy and my reasoning is logical, why the hell are you on me lmao.
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Post by chaostrodon on Oct 23, 2020 15:04:29 GMT
Fenrir seems to be thinking from a town perspective , obviously that can be faked but Im townleaning him for now Spiderz has some pretty good townie takes and the way he pointed out ddlc fan's tone being natural albeit not useful makes me townlean both of them I have explained why small is town and how litt is doing terrible if scum Penguin D is a universal tr, I am not able to be so sure of that myself but Ill respect the others reads. If we give PTSD the benefit of the doubt about his claim that leaves Gary , OM and blurb by POE. Now OM has had some good takes and has actually convinced town that I am town , which is nice of him . But notably he lynched both Gary and blurb and they both didnt respond from what Im seeing( I may have missed their responses , pls point them to me in that case) Gary hasnt done anything scummy but nothing townie either. And of course , blurb is being blurb In summation , I think blurb , Gary and OM maybe the scum team. Had this post open for a while. Don't remember why, but the way you arrived at this conclusion doesn't seem to hold up, especially since, as you noted, it implies that OM is attempting to bus both of his teammates from the start and by your own admission here you feel Gary hasn't done anything scummy and that OM's had good takes. We're lacking in scum flips currently, so searching for associative reads is still something of a trap. Is there anyone whose behavior you think is scummy independent of potential partner-based interactions with people? OM lynching them both is the very reason I was thinking they might be a team. Especially since both of those slots didnt respond at all to his accusations (i.e the interactions were one-sided). >the way you arrived at this conclusion doesn't seem to hold up I thought I explained why I was townleaning all other slots The only behavior that sticks out as scummy to me now is litt lynching small. You said you liked litt's initial reads Fenrir , so what are your thoughts on him lynching one of the reads? |
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Post by chaostrodon on Oct 23, 2020 15:13:29 GMT
uh first off POE doesn't exist with 11 players alive. where is my defense today lmao. Yes I'm aware that bussing is a thing but why would I do ot on day 1 to shift plur??? That would make no sense to shift plur onto my partner when its already on town Also if you don't find me scummy and my reasoning is logical, why the hell are you on me lmao. I feel like I am reiterating this, but I didnt scumread you . It was just that I thought other slots are townier. You keep misrepresenting my argument is what I am referring to as bad defence >Yes I'm aware that bussing is a thing but why would I do ot on day 1 to shift plur??? That would make no sense to shift plur onto my partner when its already on town "Why would I bus in such a way that everyone would believe its not a bus?" Y'know what, nvm @gary what do think of litt lynching small whom he townread d1 |
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Post by Gary The Savage on Oct 23, 2020 15:21:23 GMT
okay your point on bussing is countered with this. I wouldn't lynch at all that way I can keep that justification. what you're saying is wifom.
I see it as a change of reads considering the claim
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Post by smallworldz on Oct 23, 2020 15:46:37 GMT
Alright i have one question:
Why did ptsd choose to doc+tracker+ascetize me then?
think about it
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Post by chaostrodon on Oct 23, 2020 16:54:16 GMT
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