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Post by OM~! on Oct 19, 2020 23:47:30 GMT
that's how I'm quoting now I cba to actually use the quote feature fuck you spiderz also said "oops i thought i quoted litts post guess not but i hate this reaction bc litts post isnt that good " nah nah this was a glimpse of the digimon town!litt, plus I like the whole "bait" thing it's fucking hilarious
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Post by OM~! on Oct 19, 2020 23:48:17 GMT
Without having read the last four or so pages yet, I still think taking shots at me over activity is a weird flex for certain people to have Class just finished, reading now. Did I fucking stutter?
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Post by OM~! on Oct 19, 2020 23:48:30 GMT
Without having read the last four or so pages yet, I still think taking shots at me over activity is a weird flex for certain people to have Class just finished, reading now. Did I fucking stutter?
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Post by Fenrir on Oct 19, 2020 23:49:26 GMT
Without having read the last four or so pages yet, I still think taking shots at me over activity is a weird flex for certain people to have Class just finished, reading now. Did I fucking stutter? You're gonna make me lazy and dip again now that I've posted
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Post by OM~! on Oct 19, 2020 23:50:33 GMT
You're gonna make me lazy and dip again now that I've posted I take it back keep posting bro
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Oct 19, 2020 23:54:31 GMT
also ddlc i know your new so dont edit posts anymore against the rules Uh I refuse to bold the old fashioned way much easier to edit and bold from there. Also spiders I am about to take back want I said before about trying you you wrote a fucking documentary of the last 10 posts just chillax and listen to the fruit salad song.
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Post by Fenrir on Oct 20, 2020 0:08:16 GMT
Stuff incoming, general reminder though to not edit posts (cough)
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Post by Fenrir on Oct 20, 2020 0:17:25 GMT
Ignore my cough, was writing this and hadn't gotten to Spiderz's comment re: editing. ddlcfan69 bolding still goes against the rules for standard NOC games, "easiness" aside. I'm not yet finished reading, just want to get these thoughts out because I can feel my energy starting to wane and I'm not sure how much longer I'll stay on tonight, and want to take some time to talk to folks. Gary going in on my point out on OM seems defensive, holding back on the read for now. Gary's my first townread to the contrary for stuff like that; the line of questioning felt natural enough for me to start feeling good about him and I've liked the continuation of it as I catch up, particularly his own response to this post. I do think he's pursuing this line very hard, but it's not pinging me as scummy. With that in mind, I don't like this post: Hey, I’m checking in again. Plur is on Derz if I know how to do math. Cyan and Fen seems like good town for me at least, they’ve given reads and have asked questions. I do like the way Gary has been pressuring Penguin and I do think that there’s a chance the penguin slot flips scum, I’ll end up lynching that slot in an hour or two if I get the chance. We really need to keep an eye on OM since he just kind of dipped after a bit with no real substance to add. I know that gut reads exist Litt but I’d love to see some substance on me, not required I just want to get into your headspace Most slots once again have been too inactive to get anything from so it’s a little unfortunate. The townreads on myself and Cyan feel very low-effort (and I think they're the "easy" reads to make to look like you're doing stuff, "these people are talking about the game and thus town") and Pass seems unconcerned with Penguin's responses; what I wanna know is what is it about Penguin that makes Pass so confident that he doesn't feel the need to join that discussion. I also don't follow the throughline from "I like the way Gary is pressuring Penguin" to "There's a good chance Penguin is scum." (Also just get weird vibes from his remark to Litt here.) Litt asked to an extent about this, I've read the response, and I'm still not satisfied. I want you cite some examples of the behavior you don't like from Penguin; I'm also curious what behavior you'd expect from town in Penguin's position at that stage of the game. On the subject of litteleven , I question a lot of his preliminary reads, but trust he could explain them if asked. (And then he did get ask, and I was satisfied.) Also want to press you for your current thoughts on my own slot following reading this post, regardless of your level on confidence in that read. Litt does seem to be on the same train of thought I am when it comes to Pass [and OM, as detailed below]. The trend of people who latched onto me being like "This is 100% a soft" has me like "?" only because if you legit think I'm softing some powerful role, why would you indicate that in thread and what does it indicate for you re: my alignment? Neither small nor OM have posted enough for me to attempt reading them. OM has parked on someone and small is on an afk player I would agree with you on Penguin D's comment getting undue attention but that is still NAI , dont see where the town read came from . Tone , maybe? This post, in a vacuum, leave me with townvibes which are strong enough for me to want to mention them, but not enough for me to be solid on the read, for what sense that makes. I like the choice to continue to engage the subject of Litt's townreads/further explain the question once Litt kind of throws the question back in chaostrodon's face. zz Am I not allowed to question someone without it being an activr push? Absolutely nowhere did I call them scum, nor did I lynch them. In the words of Penguin, "I saw what they did as odd." In this case yes, you are stalling your own progress by not scum hunting, and the entirety of your conversation with penguin has been cyclical so far. Make headway or you're not making way I'll reiterate here my argument that results aside, I liked Gary's behavior during his interaction with Penguin, and I can (and probably will after making this post) ID why. It's better judged through examining intent as opposed to results, and I don't think Gary's goal was to be cyclical. You're also gonna need to further explain your scumlean on Spiderz at the point when you first gave it, 'cause I don't see it. I have reservations about OM. Not even in the sense of scumreading him, but I feel like people are handing him townreads too quickly for things that can easily be faked. His content so far has been very safe and I don't yet get the vibe that he's scumhunting as hard as he could be currently. Small's readlist feels more born out of "I need to post content" than "I'm caught up and here's what I think." Hoping to see them look into things with more introspection; their choice what they elect to focus on. I think Pass could be scrambling here after getting called out on his read of Penguin, he's backed down from it very quickly and now has thrown out my name, Litt's, and small's, all with little personal insight and all of which I think'd be considered easy targets at the time he posted. The below, for instance, is a very appeasing response to Spiderz and doesn't actually answer for the fact that his progression went off the rails, and I also think it's weird to ask Litt for their read on a 3-person team on Day 1, especially when you say yourself that you're not ready to offer up the same. I’d like to pressure small specifically because of their wall post, and I asked for a shift to Fenrir mainly to see their reaction on it, I wasn’t really planning on shifting to Fenrir yet, but considering it’s a 3 person team I’m trying to figure out who is and isn’t a viable team. I am more than happy to shift to Litt as OM has pointed out some of their flaws and they aren’t giving me insanely town vibes. I just saw 95% of the playlist townreading Litt, and I wanted to pressure one of those people. If we can give a shift to Litt I’ll gladly join it, but I also want to see a lot more from small.
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Post by Fenrir on Oct 20, 2020 0:17:48 GMT
Uh I would like to say that my contributions may be unhelpful and I may not read half of the things that are being said but... At least im not Fenrir Your move.
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Post by Fenrir on Oct 20, 2020 0:18:14 GMT
Just got to the first eblurb post btw for an idea of where I'm currently at.
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Post by Fenrir on Oct 20, 2020 0:27:45 GMT
Unvote smallworldz
Vote PassTheSaltDude
Currently have Gary and Litt as town, potentially Penguin as well with a side of chaostrodon, all as established above. Also retain reservations about smallworldz and OM, again mentioned above.
(TL;DR: If you want a TL;DR, read my posts)
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Post by Fenrir on Oct 20, 2020 0:30:07 GMT
Given the current pace the game is moving at, it's also a good idea to start consolidating. I can't promise I'll be here for EoD, but I should have enough time to be in and out a few times before then.
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Post by cyan on Oct 20, 2020 0:43:34 GMT
Time for the first readwall~ 1.Chaostrodon-the gary/penguin interaction is good to analyze to see if its t/s/,s/s,t/t and see if anyone is sheeping or siding with gts and or penguin.The entire context of the push was bad, however as the reasons were bad.I also dont get how fenrir is suspicious when what he asked penguin was a good question.if we go from that pov cyan would be more scummy as they asked penguin for a read rather than giving their own 2.Cyan Talon-iffy, why a blurb lynch over anyone else?why ask penguin about the state of the lynches when it was clearly 2 rvs's?sl 3.PassTheSaltDude-says theres a chance penguin flips scum, and might vote on them later (while currently lynching no one), and then next post says they dont sr penguin, you prob should scumhunt then. also says they are looking for a good lynch, are you asking to sheep someone? 4.OM-gave reads but didnt ask much questions nor pushed anyone (can be said with multiple people here actually),null 5.Spiderz-weird claim, prob has some interaction with ddlcfan69,null rn 6.Penguin D-contradicted himself, unless he meant to say dislike which is what i was reading it as lol,answers to the questions were fine tho 7.Gary the Savage-questions penguin while ignoring most other people,still townie even tho he gave bad reasons for a push cause of questioning and general scumhuntiness 8.Litt Eleven-townie,asking questions making reads, iso wise hasnt said anything contradictory etc 9.Fenrir -looking back his lines may not be a pr soft, but could instead be him tryna look townie,hasnt said much tho he is fine so far; i agree with him asking about peng voting gary over OM 10.smallworldz 11.ddlcfan69-null;says he has a desire to kill spiderz which is something, especially given spiderz claim 12.blurb -scumlean;not because he hasnt said anything, its cause no one else voted him for not saying anything ,especially since its still rvs and some people still dont have solid reads yet (watch as this gets ripped to shreds) vote cyan talonThis pile of reads is problematic for me; you point out contradictions while making them yourself. You yourself stated my main reason for voting off blurb, being unaddressed inactivity, which I'm pretty sure I made clear from earlier. Also, read on Litt feels surface-level (as others have pointed out), and PTSD read feels like you're trying to fluff it up as much as possible without saying any clear takes. Read spiderz's complaint on "helping townies doesn't make you townie" for one thing, this wallpost has convinced me to unlynch ptsd vote cyan talon since ptsd's wagon traction is awful and I'm not sure of the slot;s intentions anymore; and I v much think sfl staying at a blank slate on chaos is scummy since they're not reading but they were also a focal point of activity for the game; since that's no longer the case, I'm more comfortable with this lynch; piggybacking statements but i get the right vibes from spiderz's push here; did a good job at that atleast. I still highly contest the effectiveness of Gary's pushes at all, but I don't think the slot is directly scum since it has town intentions, to clear that up. + chaos tr feels kind of universal here, unless anyone wants to contest that. preliminary reads are still preliminary spiderz they're meant to stipulate activity; not all of it needs to hit its mark; in my defense, they're all forced in a sort since I didn't want to miss anyone out on my original asssessment. I firmly believe fenrir is intentionally playing to a Null read d1 so I don't want to read that slot, but my thoughts on everyone else exists right there. Seeing chaostrodon's recent activity makes me think they're being genuine and transparent in the way they think, so yes I'm retracting my null on them. That said, this post feels leaning towards town to me with its reads on Gary and Fenrir, simple as they might be. Also derz lynch was just for shits and giggles I prob scum read cyan or litt but will wait before I make my lynch bruh. do yourself a favour and ex**B**lain sadly i'd usually meta over linecount and activity, but here it seems to just be how dedicated people are to the game, so currently nai. seems like ill have to actually read stuff say (ew) first thoughts > i have calmed down. Interesting change of tone here , Im inclined to think the rant yesterday was indeed a soft as some others pointed out >Also don’t like Fenrir and ddlc sheeping, seems odd, especially at the state of the game, I’d see vanity wagons better. Didnt you notice this before you made your initial post , PenguinD ? >I don't understand why they shifted from me to ddlc in terms of voting Thats coz I didnt realise there was a second page before I lynched you Im gonna stay on ddlc until I see something interesting -even early game this post makes no sense. change of tone as in calming down? outing softs? fr what is the point -besides that, i feel like the first 3 pages were a whole lot of nothing and are not worth reading into -The Penguin D read has merit but I feel like it was pushed for bad reasons as OM pointed out. -spiderz criticizing gts' personal takeaways and bashing for also what seems to be no reason. that is just not progressing the game imo and somewhat uncharacteristic (subjective)
id say early tls and litt (efforting goon) and chap but chap always gives out townie vibes id also say at least one scum in gts/pd for the tunneling tendencies and also their quality of posts so far would also like to see every player's "defined niche" lmao
A bit odd to me that out of everything eblurb could've focused on, he just responds in single lines instead of actually developing his reads. Makes me think he did so to dodge activity and suspicion without actually giving us something to work with. Call me a hypocrite if you would. Well I think I have to start playing the game now and stop shitposting. I refuse to find quotes cuz I am an American who never learned how to read but I think that if we are not going to at least consider Litt to be scum (which I think is dangerous but nothing I can do about that) I think cyan is good Lynch def better then Gary. Gary has been helpful and I like that his posts are not massive like others. I will be unlynch, Lynch cyan talon because he is also dangerous, also agree that chaos is tr and so is spiderz even though he was my rvs. I promise I will start to read more of ya'll stuff but can you do a better job at condensing your stuff please and thank you. "He is also dangerous" is by no means a reason to lynch someone, like you're playing with over half the pl being roomstaff so ? This feels like a very lazy surface-level lynch, and if this is how I die then I'm not dying.
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Post by Fenrir on Oct 20, 2020 0:43:45 GMT
blurb 's post is lazy, but it's a generic lazy as opposed to a scum lazy. I'm more than glad to give you homework ^^ What makes you push aside the possibility of Gary v. Penguin being town v. town? (Chapter Seven's also not in this game unless I missed a name change.) Well I think I have to start playing the game now and stop shitposting. I refuse to find quotes cuz I am an American who never learned how to read but I think that if we are not going to at least consider Litt to be scum (which I think is dangerous but nothing I can do about that) I think cyan is good Lynch def better then Gary. Gary has been helpful and I like that his posts are not massive like others. I will be unlynch, Lynch cyan talon because he is also dangerous, also agree that chaos is tr and so is spiderz even though he was my rvs. I promise I will start to read more of ya'll stuff but can you do a better job at condensing your stuff please and thank you. This post gives me light scum vibes. I don't remember any mention of Litt from ddlc prior to this, so to out of nowhere declare that you're disappointed we're not voting him feels sketch and I want to know your own read on Litt and how you got there. I'm confused as to which things here, if any, are reads into alignment, because "his posts are not massive" doesn't lead to a townread, nor does "this person is dangerous" lead to a scumread. What behavior from those people are you using for your conclusions? On a less inquisitive note, I also think the line of "even though he was my rvs" is a self-conscious one. As a negative utility role OM~!, it makes more sense imo to make town voteless (even if for only a day) if you're going to make anyone at all voteless. (Not that I haven't made closed setups with limitations on scum's voting power in the past). I'm not paying much attention to that particular bit from Spiderz anyway (yet). Now we're caught up. I want food, gonna get it, will (maybe) be around.
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Post by Fenrir on Oct 20, 2020 0:49:50 GMT
sadly i'd usually meta over linecount and activity, but here it seems to just be how dedicated people are to the game, so currently nai. seems like ill have to actually read stuff say (ew) first thoughts -even early game this post makes no sense. change of tone as in calming down? outing softs? fr what is the point -besides that, i feel like the first 3 pages were a whole lot of nothing and are not worth reading into -The Penguin D read has merit but I feel like it was pushed for bad reasons as OM pointed out. -spiderz criticizing gts' personal takeaways and bashing for also what seems to be no reason. that is just not progressing the game imo and somewhat uncharacteristic (subjective)
id say early tls and litt (efforting goon) and chap but chap always gives out townie vibes id also say at least one scum in gts/pd for the tunneling tendencies and also their quality of posts so far would also like to see every player's "defined niche" lmao
A bit odd to me that out of everything eblurb could've focused on, he just responds in single lines instead of actually developing his reads. Makes me think he did so to dodge activity and suspicion without actually giving us something to work with. Call me a hypocrite if you would. I feel like scum's intention in posting is rarely straight up "give people as little to work with as possible", hence why I think it's a generic lazy and want more from eblurb. The activity dodge is pretty much a given considering the prod, but it's also NAI. That being said, one thing I wanna do is ISO you/maybe talk some to you since you're here, so if there's anything you think I should keep in mind regarding the current case(s) against you, let me know.
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Post by cyan on Oct 20, 2020 0:50:32 GMT
If anyone wants my read list, here it is (note I am generally not arsed to read giant walls of text when they first appear, but definitely will probably check back later if the need arises) - Spiderz's aggression, although not very sportsmanlike, is town to me. While I don't like that he bases his read on me from a single post that should have quite clearly looked like banter (evidence-to-fit-read read on me, essentially), it does show that he's genuinely trying to think about how the game is playing out. Also, paragraphing!!!1!!
- PassTheSaltDude's posts feel... weird? I can't put my finger on it but it might be what Fenrir pointed out earlier about his backtracking or something else, not quite sure. Would like him to pursue a read and explain it for me to form thoughts.
- smallworldz and ddlcfan aren't the best slots to me, at the moment; they seem like they're trying to be active without actual contribution. SL on both, won't push until necessary.
- Gary The Savage is showing what I'd call "half-thought" into his posts. Very solid null, and not worthy of a lynch at this moment (will not contest).
- If you were not mentioned in either this post or the previous one, assume you are a null or that I have not bothered to read you yet.
All other reads should be made clear in my previous post. In any case, I'm tempted to counterwagon onto smallworldz but would much rather we push blurb here for their rather passive stance on the game's activity.
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Post by cyan on Oct 20, 2020 1:00:19 GMT
for one thing, this wallpost has convinced me to unlynch ptsd vote cyan talon since ptsd's wagon traction is awful and I'm not sure of the slot;s intentions anymore; and I v much think sfl staying at a blank slate on chaos is scummy since they're not reading but they were also a focal point of activity for the game; since that's no longer the case, I'm more comfortable with this lynch; piggybacking statements but i get the right vibes from spiderz's push here; did a good job at that atleast. I still highly contest the effectiveness of Gary's pushes at all, but I don't think the slot is directly scum since it has town intentions, to clear that up. + chaos tr feels kind of universal here, unless anyone wants to contest that. preliminary reads are still preliminary spiderz they're meant to stipulate activity; not all of it needs to hit its mark; in my defense, they're all forced in a sort since I didn't want to miss anyone out on my original asssessment. I firmly believe fenrir is intentionally playing to a Null read d1 so I don't want to read that slot, but my thoughts on everyone else exists right there. Seeing chaostrodon's recent activity makes me think they're being genuine and transparent in the way they think, so yes I'm retracting my null on them. That said, this post feels leaning towards town to me with its reads on Gary and Fenrir, simple as they might be. Mindslipped a bit. I remember Litt saying he townread me somewhere - what happened to that, if I might ask? Was my lack of stance on chaostrodon's slot that worthy of a lynch to you? And if so, why? blurb 's post is lazy, but it's a generic lazy as opposed to a scum lazy. I'm more than glad to give you homework ^^ What makes you push aside the possibility of Gary v. Penguin being town v. town? (Chapter Seven's also not in this game unless I missed a name change.) It's more that "he's not trying" than "he's intentionally hiding info" - I can see that as being lazy, sure, but my pmeta sees blurb as far more active and involved than this. Anyway, Gary v. Penguin is just a dead end to me. It's possible both are town, and it's possible both are scum (although Gary has a higher probability of that than Penguin). I just don't think it's worth putting all my effort into considering?
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Post by Gary The Savage on Oct 20, 2020 1:30:58 GMT
Well I think I have to start playing the game now and stop shitposting. I refuse to find quotes cuz I am an American who never learned how to read but I think that if we are not going to at least consider Litt to be scum (which I think is dangerous but nothing I can do about that) I think cyan is good Lynch def better then Gary. Gary has been helpful and I like that his posts are not massive like others. I will be unlynch, Lynch cyan talon because he is also dangerous, also agree that chaos is tr and so is spiderz even though he was my rvs. I promise I will start to read more of ya'll stuff but can you do a better job at condensing your stuff please and thank you. first off, I'm American and I can read tyvm. Someone grab schia to teach this child. Second, there is nothing wrong with wallposts. wdym cyan is dangerous lol
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Post by Gary The Savage on Oct 20, 2020 1:38:58 GMT
Me v Penguin is long gone, as it should be. Ddlc isn't getting us anywhere but is town. Also since I don't wanna quote everything sfl just said, his reasoning here and how he is countering others here is what makes me tr him
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Oct 20, 2020 2:21:12 GMT
blurb 's post is lazy, but it's a generic lazy as opposed to a scum lazy. I'm more than glad to give you homework ^^ What makes you push aside the possibility of Gary v. Penguin being town v. town? (Chapter Seven's also not in this game unless I missed a name change.) Well I think I have to start playing the game now and stop shitposting. I refuse to find quotes cuz I am an American who never learned how to read but I think that if we are not going to at least consider Litt to be scum (which I think is dangerous but nothing I can do about that) I think cyan is good Lynch def better then Gary. Gary has been helpful and I like that his posts are not massive like others. I will be unlynch, Lynch cyan talon because he is also dangerous, also agree that chaos is tr and so is spiderz even though he was my rvs. I promise I will start to read more of ya'll stuff but can you do a better job at condensing your stuff please and thank you. This post gives me light scum vibes. I don't remember any mention of Litt from ddlc prior to this, so to out of nowhere declare that you're disappointed we're not voting him feels sketch and I want to know your own read on Litt and how you got there. I'm confused as to which things here, if any, are reads into alignment, because "his posts are not massive" doesn't lead to a townread, nor does "this person is dangerous" lead to a scumread. What behavior from those people are you using for your conclusions? On a less inquisitive note, I also think the line of "even though he was my rvs" is a self-conscious one. As a negative utility role OM~!, it makes more sense imo to make town voteless (even if for only a day) if you're going to make anyone at all voteless. (Not that I haven't made closed setups with limitations on scum's voting power in the past). I'm not paying much attention to that particular bit from Spiderz anyway (yet). Now we're caught up. I want food, gonna get it, will (maybe) be around. Ok if I don’t have real evidence but I feel Iike in a room full of very good players Litt has kind of asserted himself as town leader and controlled like the first 3 pages of conversation. I am not a Sherlock Holmes and I don’t really want to pull examples but I get a thanos type vibe from him (that’s a real thing stfu). I see no reason to sus Penguin/Gary but am only kind of aware of there supposed battle was about. I really feel like I am out of my element in this format and generally like a mostly commentary based game full of stupid rvs and as little amount of brain cells as possible but I will adapt.
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Oct 20, 2020 2:33:10 GMT
Im with litt this format is not fun. Not sure if I should claim role or not so will wait but is there a way to see the roles of the game? Forum games are all about taking your time to form reads - you don't have to check in every hour or so. Also, this is U-Pick, everyone (presumably with one or two exceptions) got a role they wanted to play as. I would like for litteleven to explain his town reads Fair question, but are there any of those that you disagree with? Also, what reads do you have? Would be nice to get some transparecy out of you, so everyone's on equal footing. In this case yes, you are stalling your own progress by not scum hunting, and the entirety of your conversation with penguin has been cyclical so far. Make headway or you're not making way. Generally good advice from OM here - but if I anything I'd point out that I townlean Gary from their stance and tone towards this line of questioning. That said, I can work with Penguin D being town as well, although I'd like for them to speak up more. No thoughts about the rest of the PL, but I would prefer a blurb lynch over the rest if shit hits the fan. Ok I just saw this post cyan talon thank you for the clarification I will do better at making reads. I also think that this could be potential bus of Litt and simply pointing out that someone doesn’t have enough evidence generally should not be relevant unless your reads are stupid and baseless like mine generally are.
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Post by spiderz on Oct 20, 2020 2:36:05 GMT
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Post by spiderz on Oct 20, 2020 2:39:49 GMT
oh fen is posting great
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Post by spiderz on Oct 20, 2020 2:41:58 GMT
also ddlc i know your new so dont edit posts anymore against the rules Uh I refuse to bold the old fashioned way much easier to edit and bold from there. Also spiders I am about to take back want I said before about trying you you wrote a fucking documentary of the last 10 posts just chillax and listen to the fruit salad song. i cant tell if hes just god awful town or godawful scum
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Post by spiderz on Oct 20, 2020 2:46:21 GMT
blurb 's post is lazy, but it's a generic lazy as opposed to a scum lazy. I'm more than glad to give you homework ^^ What makes you push aside the possibility of Gary v. Penguin being town v. town? (Chapter Seven's also not in this game unless I missed a name change.) Well I think I have to start playing the game now and stop shitposting. I refuse to find quotes cuz I am an American who never learned how to read but I think that if we are not going to at least consider Litt to be scum (which I think is dangerous but nothing I can do about that) I think cyan is good Lynch def better then Gary. Gary has been helpful and I like that his posts are not massive like others. I will be unlynch, Lynch cyan talon because he is also dangerous, also agree that chaos is tr and so is spiderz even though he was my rvs. I promise I will start to read more of ya'll stuff but can you do a better job at condensing your stuff please and thank you. This post gives me light scum vibes. I don't remember any mention of Litt from ddlc prior to this, so to out of nowhere declare that you're disappointed we're not voting him feels sketch and I want to know your own read on Litt and how you got there. I'm confused as to which things here, if any, are reads into alignment, because "his posts are not massive" doesn't lead to a townread, nor does "this person is dangerous" lead to a scumread. What behavior from those people are you using for your conclusions? On a less inquisitive note, I also think the line of "even though he was my rvs" is a self-conscious one. As a negative utility role OM~! , it makes more sense imo to make town voteless (even if for only a day) if you're going to make anyone at all voteless. (Not that I haven't made closed setups with limitations on scum's voting power in the past). I'm not paying much attention to that particular bit from Spiderz anyway (yet). Now we're caught up. I want food, gonna get it, will (maybe) be around. I forgot about DDLC scumreading litt out of nowhere ngl, and cyan too, im actually thinking ddlc is probably scum here, my issue though is that his posts come off very natural to me so unless scum partner is directing what to say im hesitant for town to push this just yet, I also like your casing on PTSD (wrt to like the actual case). This could all be forced from fenrir though so I don't TR them
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