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Post by cyan on Oct 20, 2020 3:34:11 GMT
Ok I just saw this post cyan talon thank you for the clarification I will do better at making reads. I also think that this could be potential bus of Litt and simply pointing out that someone doesn’t have enough evidence generally should not be relevant unless your reads are stupid and baseless like mine generally are. I don't like this post for two reasons: - The "I will do better at making reads" feels extremely shallow and pleady. While I can understand that you don't have reads at this stage, I feel like there's no point to you explicitly saying that you'd start doing so without offering any preliminary reads, or without adding commentary to your existing reads on me/litt/fenrir/etc. Pointing out a "potential bus" isn't enough.
- The self-beatover with "stupid and baseless [reads] like mine generally are" feels like an attempt at AtE to me, or an excuse to not have their reads matter much.
This is just generally a terrible progression of thinking, and coupled with the way you've carried yourself with your recent posts it shows me you're just generally either trying to be quiet (active fillering), or you're not paying much attention to the game. This might just be me beating a dead horse, but I'd like a bit more attention placed on ddlcfan69 for this.
Also, I might have to revisit chaostrodon's early game if this one post can incite this much of a response from me.
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Post by cyan on Oct 20, 2020 3:37:18 GMT
never mind, just did. there wasn't much he said in terms of content or banter at the time when litt first raised his concern of me not having an opinion on them
@litt going to ask again; what gave you an opinion on chaostrodon when you were pressing me for my lack thereof?
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Post by passthesaltdude on Oct 20, 2020 3:38:12 GMT
Alright s po plur might be on me (I’m not sure) and day end is in 30 minutes. Once again, I have been paying not much attention to this game and I haven’t sat down to read or analyze anything. I do find it interesting that Fenrir pops up near day end to lynch me, but I’m probably just over thinking things.
I still will stand by the fact that small is a good lynch here. They said almost nothing and then come up with a post with what reeks of forced reads and that Litt townread doesn’t seem natural.
I see the point Litt was coming from (and I was using hyperbole when I said 95%, but most people have townread you, and it doesn’t seem natural) I was mainly asking the scumteam question because I haven’t read much from Litt and I wanted to see their thoughts on interactions and current game state.
Idk how I feel about derz giving out a lot of things about Fenrir that should be a townread by ending it with ‘but it could be forced so I don’t tr him’ it feels odd and out of place, but I don’t know that the take away from it should be.
I don’t think ‘scrambling’ is the right word for me and the penguin read. Once again, I didn’t really try much for the first day of gameplay and mainly skimmed through conversations seeing some good points made about penguins call out on certain filler, when people gave me clarification of what I missed, I changed perspective.
I said why I’ve gotten a slight sl on litt, and that’s because they tried everything they could to form a sr on me, to the point where it just feels incredibly superficial .
I said why I don’t like smalls wall posts.
And I just saw you dip early game and found the idea of you+Litt possible, but you were my weakest read.
Looking back on it and reading other stuff, I get where the cyan read is coming from. His stuff does feel... off, like I’ve seen cyan as scum they try to ‘town lead’ without creating new discussion, if I have the time I’ll read their whole iso and see if they’ve added anything new to the game state,
I might be ignoring him, but I haven’t seen Gary enter any real discussion yet as we enter late in the day, nothing really doing anything to form reads, he’s just parked on me like he was at the start of day. (Which is a mentality I understand, you start the day with a lynch and you try and commit to it, even if you aren’t willing to read the slot any other way)
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Post by passthesaltdude on Oct 20, 2020 3:45:08 GMT
Nvm it’s 12pm not 12 am. I forgot this game is weirder.
Since I don’t have the pressure of time I’d love to look into the Small read list and pick it apart sometime tomorrow, as I feel like a lot of it adds nothing and seems like a lazy post for someone begging to be townread.
As much as I don’t think cyan is 100% town with his reads, I don’t see a reason to lynch cyan at all here, as they have done nothing to warrant a lynch.
If someone has a question for me that I missed, just ask it again responding to this post, it’ll make things easier for me when I wake up.
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Post by PenguinD on Oct 20, 2020 5:37:40 GMT
Don’t like that blurb has still YET to pay any attention to this game. I don’t want a person who is at least active lynched d1. Unlynch Gary, Lynch Blurb My rvs on Gary seems to be successful, did what it needed, something to generate interactions. Either way, I see blurb as the best lynch out of each person with 2 votes currently, if you’d like me to shift elsewhere (which I likely won’t without some reasoning I agree with), ping me.
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Post by cyan on Oct 20, 2020 6:25:14 GMT
Don’t like that blurb has still YET to pay any attention to this game. I don’t want a person who is at least active lynched d1. Unlynch Gary, Lynch Blurb My rvs on Gary seems to be successful, did what it needed, something to generate interactions. Either way, I see blurb as the best lynch out of each person with 2 votes currently, if you’d like me to shift elsewhere (which I likely won’t without some reasoning I agree with), ping me. It seems as if you've achieved or learnt something from your lynch on Gary - might I ask what that is? Because "generating interactions" is a pretty vague description of what happened. Not that it's wrong, but I'd like to know what you think of it to get a little further into your mindset rn. |
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Post by Schrodinger on Oct 20, 2020 8:12:49 GMT
VOTECOUNT 1.2
3*Cyan: Litt, small, ddlc
3 blurb: Cyan, OM, Penguin
2 PTSD: Gary, Fenrir
1 Fenrir: Chaos
1 small: PTSD
Not Voting: blurb, spiderz
If the day were to end right now, cyan would be lynched. With 12 total players, it would take 7 votes to hammer.
Deadline: 12 noon est October 20, thus approximately 8 Hours from now
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Post by Gary The Savage on Oct 20, 2020 10:30:14 GMT
Shifting from PTSD to Blurb
although I haven't said much about blurb, don't like plur on a tr
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Post by spiderz on Oct 20, 2020 11:05:23 GMT
Shifting from PTSD to Blurbalthough I haven't said much about blurb, don't like plur on a tr If blurb flips scum this slot is 90% town |
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Post by spiderz on Oct 20, 2020 11:08:24 GMT
Id much rather a cyan lynch though, because of previous reasons, plus the blurb slot has not said much thus far albeit his one post not being good, he should really just not join fourm games if hes gonna post once all game after being prodded lmao
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Post by spiderz on Oct 20, 2020 11:09:14 GMT
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Post by cyan on Oct 20, 2020 11:30:48 GMT
Also since I don't wanna quote everything sfl just said, his reasoning here and how he is countering others here is what makes me tr him you might as well do it real quick since derz is asking from you |
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Post by litteleven on Oct 20, 2020 12:19:19 GMT
quick update post time:
i'll answer every question put out in a bit but i don't think blurb is a correct lynch, rather you'd lynch the lurking ddlc for basically coasting with scum intentions; would be the policy. Doesn't make sense to low act lynch someone who's not posted (since they'd get a sub) over someone who's lurking but is basically just sheeping the biggest words.
i really like fenrir's overall commentary, pushed to a tr; it's a good guideline for town at this moment I feel like
at the same time i don't feel ptsd lynch as much on a cfd today, so i will not shift from my current lynch.
I'm fine with sfl lynch at this point in time but the blurb counter wagon is stacked for no adequate reason other than 'he's lurking' which means multiple people don't have formed reads or are just low efforting this lynch
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Post by litteleven on Oct 20, 2020 12:21:23 GMT
never mind, just did. there wasn't much he said in terms of content or banter at the time when litt first raised his concern of me not having an opinion on them @litt going to ask again; what gave you an opinion on chaostrodon when you were pressing me for my lack thereof? i pressed him for a response, his reaction was constructive and felt town; I don't expect you to share the read at that point of time, but questioning the read blatantly and not being able to form a read given their info is just covering up for a fault here |
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Post by litteleven on Oct 20, 2020 12:23:10 GMT
Kage Cyan talon : do you still believe in the blurb lynch / are you self preserving? do you have a list of reads you want to put out in terms of who you seriously read as scum here?
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blurb
Innocent Child
ball so hard
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Post by blurb on Oct 20, 2020 12:50:48 GMT
addressing wagon troll pd - Is not paying attention to the game scum? Just answer that at least. I've been waiting on fen's homework so i will just respond to all questions asked. from gts 1 - I never said we should flavor claim, no idea where this is from 2 - D1 takeaways so far OM is a monkey Litt hates everyone and everything ddlc sheeps OM "cuz wynaut". I see this as the same as fenrir lynching small just like litt as for now. Chastrodon is confused. Small is basically just here. And fenrir is a tryhard. Nothing new. Lynch PTSDur takeaways are very garbage, like insanely garbage all of those are just untrue and stupid, use ur head and read whats actually going on thanks kk i'd like to see what you call this 3 - has already been said by others. also to spiderz - stuff already being said doesn't mean anything? like either take it as i'm not reading the game or agreeing with what ppl are saying too lazy to actually use |
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Post by spiderz on Oct 20, 2020 13:22:20 GMT
addressing wagon troll pd - Is not paying attention to the game scum? Just answer that at least. I've been waiting on fen's homework so i will just respond to all questions asked. from gts 1 - I never said we should flavor claim, no idea where this is from 2 - ur takeaways are very garbage, like insanely garbage all of those are just untrue and stupid, use ur head and read whats actually going on thanks kk i'd like to see what you call this 3 - has already been said by others. also to spiderz - stuff already being said doesn't mean anything? like either take it as i'm not reading the game or agreeing with what ppl are saying too lazy to actually use  this is so confusing to read but, I was merley pointing out your lack of contribution, and weak analysis on shit thats been previously stated, and everything else legit makes 0 sense in this post LOL |
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Post by spiderz on Oct 20, 2020 13:22:53 GMT
I think that you should be shifting to cyan blurb, |
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Post by cyan on Oct 20, 2020 13:24:17 GMT
quick update post time: i'll answer every question put out in a bit but i don't think blurb is a correct lynch, rather you'd lynch the lurking ddlc for basically coasting with scum intentions; would be the policy. Doesn't make sense to low act lynch someone who's not posted (since they'd get a sub) over someone who's lurking but is basically just sheeping the biggest words. i really like fenrir's overall commentary, pushed to a tr; it's a good guideline for town at this moment I feel like at the same time i don't feel ptsd lynch as much on a cfd today, so i will not shift from my current lynch. I'm fine with sfl lynch at this point in time but the blurb counter wagon is stacked for no adequate reason other than 'he's lurking' which means multiple people don't have formed reads or are just low efforting this lynch they've responded to a prod, litt. they're clearly here and trying to be - your argument that blurb "shouldn't be voted off because he'll get subbed" doesn't hold. granted, ddlcfan is a fine lynch too but I'm kinda stuck for blatantly obvious reasons also you're missing out on gary's reason for shifting, being that he townreads me. it's not a matter of "he's lurking", it's a combination of reasons ranging from "he's not being active enough" to "cyan shouldn't die here" and you can't just represent the entire wagon with a single blanket statement. you should be aware of this never mind, just did. there wasn't much he said in terms of content or banter at the time when litt first raised his concern of me not having an opinion on them @litt going to ask again; what gave you an opinion on chaostrodon when you were pressing me for my lack thereof? i pressed him for a response, his reaction was constructive and felt town; I don't expect you to share the read at that point of time, but questioning the read blatantly and not being able to form a read given their info is just covering up for a fault here I wasn't questioning the read directly, it just felt like you were able to pull an alignment read out of very little information to work with. If chaostrodon was obviously town from those four posts, this discussion would be much more one-sided. I questioned your process of forming the read, not because I thought chaostrodon was lockscum beyond all means, but because I didn't understand how you came to that conclusion. Needless to say, I didn't get that constructive feel from his reaction and honestly still can't find it now. Mind showing exactly which press you made and which reaction he gave? Kage Cyan talon : do you still believe in the blurb lynch / are you self preserving? do you have a list of reads you want to put out in terms of who you seriously read as scum here? haha pingfail that said, i am indeed self-preserving for lack of a choice right now, but i voiced concerns about blurb's slot that have yet to be addressed sufficiently, either by him or by anyone. I don't see how, even if blurb were to be town, that he would be more beneficial left alive for everyone than if I were - his lack of activity is concerning especially because he's typically a vocal and actively engaged player. See his recent post, which was geared more towards forming responses to questions than any actual read to push or stand by. So, yes. I want eblurb lynched here because I don't see why I (or anyone else barring silent-passive slots like ddlcfan69 and smallworldz, and even then i'd rather get blurb) should take the fall in favour of his slot. That said, your stance on eblurb is very unclear here; either you ultra-scumread me, which is a bit awkward given the basis being something quite minor even by Cyan standards, or you definitely want him alive for reasons you are not divulging. I want your explicitly and earnestly expressed opinion on the eblurb lynch, because it just feels like you're very hard against it without giving sufficient enough of a push why. spiderz has a better (albeit flawed and based off of banter) reason to be lynching me fam |
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Post by cyan on Oct 20, 2020 13:25:19 GMT
I think that you should be shifting to cyan blurb , Tying in to my last post, please restate your read on me in full so I can properly address it. |
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Post by PenguinD on Oct 20, 2020 13:51:50 GMT
Someone who doesn’t pay attention to the game I feel is a WAY better lynch compared to someone who’s put their thoughts out there multiple times. This is why I’d much rather a blurb lynch here.
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Post by PenguinD on Oct 20, 2020 13:56:11 GMT
Someone who doesn’t pay attention to the game I feel is a WAY better lynch compared to someone who’s put their thoughts out there multiple times. This is why I’d much rather a blurb lynch here. Forgot to mention that it’s also d1. |
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Post by spiderz on Oct 20, 2020 14:35:59 GMT
quick update post time: i'll answer every question put out in a bit but i don't think blurb is a correct lynch, rather you'd lynch the lurking ddlc for basically coasting with scum intentions; would be the policy. Doesn't make sense to low act lynch someone who's not posted (since they'd get a sub) over someone who's lurking but is basically just sheeping the biggest words. i really like fenrir's overall commentary, pushed to a tr; it's a good guideline for town at this moment I feel like at the same time i don't feel ptsd lynch as much on a cfd today, so i will not shift from my current lynch. I'm fine with sfl lynch at this point in time but the blurb counter wagon is stacked for no adequate reason other than 'he's lurking' which means multiple people don't have formed reads or are just low efforting this lynch they've responded to a prod, litt. they're clearly here and trying to be - your argument that blurb "shouldn't be voted off because he'll get subbed" doesn't hold. granted, ddlcfan is a fine lynch too but I'm kinda stuck for blatantly obvious reasons also you're missing out on gary's reason for shifting, being that he townreads me. it's not a matter of "he's lurking", it's a combination of reasons ranging from "he's not being active enough" to "cyan shouldn't die here" and you can't just represent the entire wagon with a single blanket statement. you should be aware of this i pressed him for a response, his reaction was constructive and felt town; I don't expect you to share the read at that point of time, but questioning the read blatantly and not being able to form a read given their info is just covering up for a fault here I wasn't questioning the read directly, it just felt like you were able to pull an alignment read out of very little information to work with. If chaostrodon was obviously town from those four posts, this discussion would be much more one-sided. I questioned your process of forming the read, not because I thought chaostrodon was lockscum beyond all means, but because I didn't understand how you came to that conclusion. Needless to say, I didn't get that constructive feel from his reaction and honestly still can't find it now. Mind showing exactly which press you made and which reaction he gave? Kage Cyan talon : do you still believe in the blurb lynch / are you self preserving? do you have a list of reads you want to put out in terms of who you seriously read as scum here? haha pingfail that said, i am indeed self-preserving for lack of a choice right now, but i voiced concerns about blurb's slot that have yet to be addressed sufficiently, either by him or by anyone. I don't see how, even if blurb were to be town, that he would be more beneficial left alive for everyone than if I were - his lack of activity is concerning especially because he's typically a vocal and actively engaged player. See his recent post, which was geared more towards forming responses to questions than any actual read to push or stand by. So, yes. I want eblurb lynched here because I don't see why I (or anyone else barring silent-passive slots like ddlcfan69 and smallworldz, and even then i'd rather get blurb) should take the fall in favour of his slot. That said, your stance on eblurb is very unclear here; either you ultra-scumread me, which is a bit awkward given the basis being something quite minor even by Cyan standards, or you definitely want him alive for reasons you are not divulging. I want your explicitly and earnestly expressed opinion on the eblurb lynch, because it just feels like you're very hard against it without giving sufficient enough of a push why. spiderz has a better (albeit flawed and based off of banter) reason to be lynching me fam ?, flawed? People can read banter. Don't discredit the read because it is based on banter. It's you always attempting to act like you are helping town by IIoA, trying to give very basic forum advice, basically restating what others are saying in their post when you "agree" with them. The issue with all of this is that you are bringing nothing to the table from you yourself but it goes unoticed by town (and it very much did in the early part of this day) because that is the whole point of it, it's trying to act town while contributing nothing to the table. And any analysis you do have is very weak and because all of it is just reading the surface of posts and not actually going in depth, it is only after I called you out on it. And again this is a common reoccurrence in your scum play if you look back on one of your past forum scum games or especially in chat mafia. And again this is a stupid discredit, just because you were bantering does not mean it can't be Alignment Indicative. |
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Post by spiderz on Oct 20, 2020 14:38:47 GMT
Someone who doesn’t pay attention to the game I feel is a WAY better lynch compared to someone who’s put their thoughts out there multiple times. This is why I’d much rather a blurb lynch here. This is bad take, extremely bad take. Their are non-motivated townies, who are insanely common on forum, and their are also active scum which cyan has a strong possibility of being, you can not scum read someone solely on the amount of posts and ignore the content of it, this is mafia 101. Do Better. |
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Post by OM~! on Oct 20, 2020 14:38:56 GMT
noting 10v3 numbers for my own sake but also saying I've read back on cyan and ye derz is right
unlynch and lynch cyan
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this is so confusing to read but, I was merley pointing out your lack of contribution, and weak analysis on shit thats been previously stated, and everything else legit makes 0 sense in this post LOL
