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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 3, 2019 10:11:48 GMT
sircloud what do you think about the recent interactions between people? maybe a readslist? I don't like that your only 3 posts in the past 21 hours have been 1) correcting your name and 2) & 3) telling me not to read nuxl based off drunkposting a lot has gone down in this time, so can we get some thoughts that stuff please?
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 3, 2019 8:56:03 GMT
I just wanted to point out, as nuxl did when I said the exact same thing, that he wasn't townreading me. just for you, then, a full lynch history
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for notation purposes Kotsy tried to lynch alex, then tried to lynch nuxl without unlynching
both times failing the bbcode (maybe on purpose?)
Alex -> Dayan
Nuxl -> Duskfall
Fort -> Duskfall
Qtball -> Ayia
derpeddeath -> Alex
Ayia -> Fort
Nuxl -x Duskfall -> Fort
derpeddeath -x alex -> Duskfall
duskfall -> derpeddeath
qtball -x ayia
qtball -> cuddleszz
nuxl -x fort -> derpeddeath
alex -x dayan
alex -> derpeddeath
ayia -x fort -> derpeddeath
qtball -x cuddleszz -> derpeddeath
cuddleszz -> edjerations
ayia -x derpeddeath -> nuxl
fort -x duskfall
Totals:
4 Derpeddeath (Duskfall, nuxl, alex, qtball)
1 Duskfall (derpeddeath)
1 Edjerations (Cuddleszz)
1 nuxl (ayia)
what's your opinion on me vs ayia? has your opinion on any of our slots changed? iirc you currently tr me and are null? for ayia(correct me if I'm wrong mobile is shit for looking back)
wait nvm we at L-2 now but anyways more in-depth answers
I think you're showing a much stronger towngame than ayia, but it still might be TvT. I want to see their answers before I make stronger conclusions since they won't be today's lynch anyways. Yes that was my previous opinion. Now my TR on you is even stronger and i have a slight scumlean on ayia.
...if you two are SvS then wtf ggwp go win the game now i concede to your superior ballsiness. I think that's highly unlikely.
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 3, 2019 8:51:13 GMT
before i leave i think ayia + derp is very possible kbai |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 3, 2019 8:49:49 GMT
you answered nothing i said here? thank you for repeating on why my reaction is scummy iyo instead of just elaborating on that reasoning and maybe i can gauge what exactly youre looking for in my slot in the event this is tvt so we can just kiss and make up and move on what is your opinion on other content in the game instead of yelling at me that im scum what do you want me to answer to? also i'll get back to rest of game after this This... *ahem*. What do you mean by "after this"? Tunneling is not a good thing regardless of your alignment, especially when there are other players besides nuxl applying pressure on you.it's honestly really boring seeing you pop up just to call me scum and dip just like you have for about the last 5 pages im not expecting you to townread me but id like to expect from other town that they do their part in actually scumhunting instead of just yelling in my ear lol idk what you want im not just gonna sit on the forum refreshing every second waiting for you to reply i have like a 10 minute later reply rate which isn't terrible imo the reply rate is fine, the problem is the sheer lack of anything but tunnel vision on scum!nuxl in those replies. can you give me possible scumbuddies? interactions between him and them? who do you think could be scum with him, and why? Remember that there's 3 scum and they form a team. A player who's as obviously experienced as nuxl will definitely be looking to create a scumteam advantage if he's being so aggressively high-profile. With that in mind, what are signs you want to point out?again, repeat, we're not getting anything here, you're already convinced that im schm and this is evidenced by your vote and your reaction, I'm not convinced by town and you can prove it to me by doing other things. you telling me this does not prove anything that changes anything about your view on my alignment nor are my responses getting anything out of you besides the same shit as always You misunderstand what I'm trying to get out of this I'm not trying to further my read on you or anything, I'm trying to convince rest of town that you're scum Gotta say, you're not doing the best of jobs here. To fix that, you could try answering some of the questions in my second response, as well as the questions about the rest of the game and his interactions assuming scum!nuxl.Responses in italicized orange as suggested in some post somewhere that snaq copied. All in all, I don't like ayia's response to the pressure. I'm trying to hold onto a neutral stance until they have a chance to answer my questions, but so far I don't think their reaction to being pressured is even remotely towny (they immediately started hard-tunnelling nuxl and ignoring legitimate questions about the rest of the game the moment reads on them started shifting south with qtball's readspost. I think this is a prime target for tomorrow's lynch. For today I'll hop onto derp; this should be L-1 Lynch Derpeddeath |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 3, 2019 3:58:18 GMT
before i leave i think ayia + derp is very possible kbai
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 3, 2019 3:57:38 GMT
bye yall i have a Captain Toad session to play w/ friend
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 3, 2019 3:55:26 GMT
You began the game by TRing the entire active player list, and now you must reverse one of those reads. My read is the easiest to flip I just wanted to point out, as nuxl did when I said the exact same thing, that he wasn't townreading me. all I see is quotes and useless shit im about to just roleplay e123 omega and just play from there utilizing gifs and voicelines to make this more entertaining for myself but that's just me. yes I read the thread and all I see is posts with 1 sentence or quotes withs 1 sentence replys like come on now. note for those I like to play aggressive, very aggressive, and I do not know what the voting stage looks on who has voted on who so can host update that? thanks also Im copying what tbz said derpdeath should either 1 claim or 2 just be the info lynch for today and we can read his wagon and see who was town/scum from it just for you, then, a full lynch history
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for notation purposes Kotsy tried to lynch alex, then tried to lynch nuxl without unlynching
both times failing the bbcode (maybe on purpose?)
Alex -> Dayan
Nuxl -> Duskfall
Fort -> Duskfall
Qtball -> Ayia
derpeddeath -> Alex
Ayia -> Fort
Nuxl -x Duskfall -> Fort
derpeddeath -x alex -> Duskfall
duskfall -> derpeddeath
qtball -x ayia
qtball -> cuddleszz
nuxl -x fort -> derpeddeath
alex -x dayan
alex -> derpeddeath
ayia -x fort -> derpeddeath
qtball -x cuddleszz -> derpeddeath
cuddleszz -> edjerations
ayia -x derpeddeath -> nuxl
fort -x duskfall
Totals:
4 Derpeddeath (Duskfall, nuxl, alex, qtball)
1 Duskfall (derpeddeath)
1 Edjerations (Cuddleszz)
1 nuxl (ayia)
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 3, 2019 3:14:53 GMT
All of Alex's posts so far in 1 spoiler: hello townfolk it is I alexander489 your humble townleader. i will start out with a nicely placed lynch, lynch dayanHELLO fellow townie nuxl i hear you are p good, would you like to place an rvs lynch? am i fellow town though? vote duskfallpressure pressure pressure pressurepressurepressurepressurepressurepressurepressurepressurepressurepressurepressurepressurepressurepressurepressurepressurepressurepressurepressurepressurepressurepressurepressurepressurepressurepressurepressurev
HOPEFULLY??? well it's a yes or no question i mean i did call you town??? so wdyt  Now we wait for the others to wake from their slumber, qtball i could use your assistance in leading this town  yea our games a bit dead to start sad one of our dudes in this pl hasnt even logged on since he posted /in so lol also i have done 0 research on how this setup works ngl i am just winging out the setup works and will eventually take the time to understand ngl i am just winging out the setup works and will eventually take the time to understand how* and it actually seems p easy. Alexander489 who on this playerlist do you know/have played with? if so, on real time or on a forum based system like this? lets see Alexander489 (ME) A Year in Advance (ayia) (real time ps) bluegummybear7 (real time ps) cuddleszz (cuddleszz) (real time ps) dayan (who is this) Derpeddeath(real time ps) Duskfall98 (duskfall) (real time ps and 1 smogon forum game) FortColors (Fort Forces Fine Fusion) ( 1 real time ps) haydenbreen699 (real time ps) ivanthebest (real time ps) Kingofthesea (kotsytbussiness20) (who is this) Nuxl (you) Banana Spritzee (qtball) (real time ps and 1 ps forum game i think) OK glad to see qtball trs me, that will make this game a lot better for town in the longrun trust me. Anyway, if we could get some prod on the forementioned players, can anyone tally up a vote count so far just like an unofficial one? also forgot to mention thunderballz is town. Would you bet the game on this? yh I would like to remind you that Alex has said very very little of substance so far. What, would you think, is qtball getting his reads from and why are you so eager to sheep that? Honestly why are you so desperate to find people to sheep in the first place?
>>very little of substance ok bud lol the reason im nt posting soo much is due to my lack o skill in forum games and yet you're lynching me why? First thing to note: I don’t think Alex has a good Forum game, so his hyperactivity pings as town to me. Also his typical “I’m town meta” seems reasonable at this point so I don’t see him as a slot to lynch today Duskfall and nuxl interactions don’t ping as svs at all Need to read more into the others as this day has focused primarily on the active players and I don’t know how I feel about the lack of care for players who will go unmentioned today WOW i have feelings sir OK i am finally all caught up i think After getting home from work, i have decided that my reads are as follows Thunderballz
Duskfall - why is this being lynched?
Nuxl
Ayia - null
King
Derp
Dayan??
For those of you that are questioning your read on me due to filler or lack of useful info i would like you to talk to me and try and reconsider. that is all for my wall of spam, i am going to bed soon, more in the morning  I must ask where you are getting your dayan scumread from? oh becuz i have never heard of him and he is not here lol, he was my rvs. Duskfall like i said and am seeing alexa as scum here too.  how am i scum exactly how the hell are there 18 pages of shit to read back to can someone just give me a tldr summery of what happened from those pages? also ill be actively checking this on weekdays 8-2pm est and for weekends im always busy so I cant give you a date on when I check it. otherwise I have 0 reads as of now I just noticed it was unlocked so we can post sorry about that CUDDLESZZ and another note, literally anything can be called buddying or piggybacking, but you people have to realize at a certain point that Town reads are Town reads and my read on nuxl atm is currently that. Alex had a great entrance and ever since he’s been nonexistent which is annoying but still not really worth fussing about Dusk is the most iffy slot of the 3 rn but honestly I have trouble even seeing him as scum the interaction with nuxl while nuxl was drunk about Ayia just pinged me as unnecessary fluff but he’s had enough presence and relevant info to passably be called town i have been non-existant? have you even been reading lol anyway my reads still hold true from last time, ayia is really pinging me for their nuxl sr. of these 28 posts, 2 are you insisting you are active and 2 more are just unlynch/lynch. The ones i consider actual content are: i will start out with a nicely placed lynch, lynch dayanHELLO fellow townie nuxl i hear you are p good, would you like to place an rvs lynch? OK glad to see qtball trs me, that will make this game a lot better for town in the longrun trust me. Anyway, if we could get some prod on the forementioned players, can anyone tally up a vote count so far just like an unofficial one? also forgot to mention thunderballz is town. After getting home from work, i have decided that my reads are as follows Thunderballz
Duskfall - why is this being lynched?
Nuxl
Ayia - null
King
Derp
Dayan??
I must ask where you are getting your dayan scumread from? oh becuz i have never heard of him and he is not here lol, he was my rvs. Duskfall like i said and am seeing alexa as scum here too. how am i scum exactly anyway my reads still hold true from last time, ayia is really pinging me for their nuxl sr. That makes 10 even including the two lynch-only posts. I literally just did this because I'm sick of the fact that you keep insisting you've been active. Look at these 10 "content" posts. RVS, asking someone else to RVS, asking for useful info, a single townread followed by a list of reads, 2 lynchposts, explaining a scumread with the answer ("he was my rvs and never responded"), asking how you're scum, and saying "my reads are the same as before" while emphasizing one of the points.
Speaking of which, at the time I said you had very little of substance, it was true
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 3, 2019 1:25:43 GMT
I don't like that nuxl was active at all while drunk. Those posts are hard to read (physically) AND hard to read (scumhunting wise). However I think the fact that he's willing to post here while drunk shows a lack of fear (of slipping) that I wouldn't expect from scum. I don’t think we should scumread/townread somebody off of posts they made while being drunk as it doesn’t really take us anywhere its more off the fact that he was willing to post at all while drunk; i feel like a scum might have that tiny bit of caution that says "let's not do this and throw my cover possibly"
tbh everyone should just have that restraint regardless of faction e.e
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 2, 2019 23:28:00 GMT
a rough line of my reads of the active players from town to scum FFF > (Alex / dusk / nuxl) > kotsy > Edjeanerations > Ayia > derpeddeath I can definitely see Ayia + derp being a thing, so I definitely would like to see one flip today likely nothing will happen with any of the lurkers given less than 2 days left but I’ll stay here in case something happens and will shift if necessary Kinda curious why you townread me when everyone else seems to think of me as somewhere between scumlean and null. Do you think Ayia + derp + someone else active is possible? I struggle to imagine nuxl there, but maybe duskfall wanted to buss?
May be a pocket and/or feels good to be townread thing, but I think your willingness to deviate from literally everyone else wrt your reads is towny. Scum would easily just say "Null on Fort" and draw 0 attention whatsoever to themselves because everyone else is thinking that.
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Continuing my previous thought, with derp being nigh-universally scumread, I do think that's a decent place to look for a scumflip. BUT he's interacted with so few people we wouldn't actually learn that much from it (I don't buy the townspewing people keep talking about I feel like its NAI on me) We need people to be more active e.e While we'd learn literally nothing from lynching an inactive, I feel like we need them out of the game at some point.
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 2, 2019 23:18:59 GMT
oh right unlynch duskfall
my SR on them has shifted to a small townlean from their most recent interactions in this thread
I'm willing for derp to be the lynch today, but I'll hold off on joining the wagon for now.
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 2, 2019 23:15:06 GMT
Could be a 5000 IQ bluff but I don't think so.
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 2, 2019 23:14:17 GMT
I don't like that nuxl was active at all while drunk. Those posts are hard to read (physically) AND hard to read (scumhunting wise).
However I think the fact that he's willing to post here while drunk shows a lack of fear (of slipping) that I wouldn't expect from scum.
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 2, 2019 23:12:24 GMT
Okay, so I quickly read through the logs of this game (yet it still took like half an hour, damn) and from what I see, like many others, I TR TBZ. Though yeah, in PS they are usually one of the most active scumhunters, it doesn't seem like they are as active as what I'm used to. That doesn't deter my read because (even though it's my first) this is a forum game, so I expect people to play somewhat different than a PS game that goes much faster and is real-time and all that. Second of all, also from what I've seen from the logs, I SR derp. One thing that stood out to me was the lack of replies which was mentioned earlier, and I feel like not replying is a reeally hard thing to do when the format of the game is set up like this. Though I do SR them, I am going to refrain from lynching anyone at this point because if you guys didn't see, I just subbed in. Plus the day doesn't end until June 3rd so I believe I still have an alright amount of time before I should be required to do anything. Looking at FFFF's posts, I am not sure what to think, so I am going to keep my eye on them. This does not mean I SR them, and it does not mean that I TR them. They are making some big points, some good, and some bad, which is the reasoning for my statement. It kind of sucks that I had to absorb all of the information at once because I'm a sub, but this is the best I can do right now. I'm also not very good (experienced) at mafia in general so lol ignore this post if y'all want This post is highly re-iterative, but considering that its his first catch-up post I completely understand. However, I do hope this signifies a willingness to contribute and be active. Are you guys seriously trying to make reads off me from one post? You've outright stated an unwillingness to post and respond. That alone is highly questionable and makes me question your motivations. Are you trying to hide scumminess with quietness? I'm incompetent, but I've been talking. People scumread me, but whatever idgaf I'm talking sp at least they can get reads on me, plus I'm learning. Derped made an appearance to post more awful posts, and I don't know his skill level so I have to assume he is semi-competent and this is just scum. But I have been wrong in such scenarios in the past. Regardless he is by a long way the best lynch now imo Question: would a semi-competent scum post the way he has been? I feel like we honestly might just be looking at NAI incompetence, but it does benefit town more if he just talks more. This is sad nuxi night be scum You're funny I don't like that this is nuxl's only response every time duskfall comes anywhere close to scumreading him. by the way fort has been MIA for 17 hours as of this post I am legitimately sorry that I had to volunteer at a barbecue I was involuntarily dragged to and forced to sleep early for. |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 2, 2019 3:10:25 GMT
you could just lynch me and check my alignment that way I'm trying. Being defeatist isn't helping your case. Honestly, we've pretty much maxed out this game as much as we can with the people that are active. Idk why literally half the playerlist hasn't set a word yet, this has gotten pretty obnoxious. you could just lynch me and check my alignment that way /s btw before someone decides this is serious as expected |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 2, 2019 3:08:56 GMT
After getting home from work, i have decided that my reads are as follows Thunderballz
Duskfall - why is this being lynched?
Nuxl
Ayia - null
King
Derp
Dayan??
I must ask where you are getting your dayan scumread from? |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 2, 2019 0:58:13 GMT
null
he says some discreetly weird things in the sense that they just dont make sense but you can definitely see the thought process behind it. his abjection to various people in the game(duskfall + alex) sounds like breaking up potential towncores and not getting out of the poe; but honestly i would not be surprised to learn that he had actual reads on it
i expected more people to comment on fort but nobody's actually townreading him as of now and half the game is discreetly mia so we won't be seeing my theory about how his alignment is solved by people that arent named fort
you could just lynch me and check my alignment that way /s btw before someone decides this is serious |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 2, 2019 0:57:21 GMT
yeah + i feel like as town knowing the setup is kinda important well in a 13p game i usually assume it's 10-3. i just dont want to btoher with figuring out the math and someone will do that for me anyway someone already did do that for you |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 2, 2019 0:56:17 GMT
so whats your read on fort null
he says some discreetly weird things in the sense that they just dont make sense but you can definitely see the thought process behind it. his abjection to various people in the game(duskfall + alex) sounds like breaking up potential towncores and not getting out of the poe; but honestly i would not be surprised to learn that he had actual reads on it
i expected more people to comment on fort but nobody's actually townreading him as of now and half the game is discreetly mia so we won't be seeing my theory about how his alignment is solved by people that arent named fort
you could just lynch me and check my alignment that way |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 1, 2019 21:55:19 GMT
Keep in mind that scum already knows who scum is so they don't need to pore over every word to make reads.
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 1, 2019 21:54:42 GMT
/shrug you're the one townreading everyone active should i not be doing this? i feel like i have credible reasons to read people. why is this a problematic thing? also im not tring you  It's fine to townread everyone active, I'm just extrapolating that to mean that the scum is not active, and thus my skeptical self assumes that as scum they'd just be skimming the thread instead of poring over every word. Easily accessible lists are a godsend for skimmers. |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 1, 2019 21:47:47 GMT
im gonna go do other things you know when im back when i start liking posts again
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 1, 2019 21:46:27 GMT
Since you've townread basically everyone active except me, that means you think some of the more lurky people are scum.
More lurky people are less likely to have pored through every single post of all 12 pages (the more pages there are, the less inclined they are to read all of it) summarizing everything into a list makes things super easy for someone just skimming through instead of carefully reading each post.
If I were a semi-active scum I would just be looking at your list and picking people off from that because that's easier than actually reading.
this is actually a terrible thought process. it's not scummy. it's just not good. at all. if you think so lowly that people won't read this thread then... okay... but in an average playerlist this is never a determining factor for scum to pick their kills lmfao /shrug you're the one townreading everyone active |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 1, 2019 21:42:53 GMT
obviously not that's why i didn't make a list of my gut reads 20 hours ago and why i don't gut read you as town /s was reading 3 in any case, idk why youre worrying about NK picks; it's very obvious that people who usually aren't mislynchable(aka mostly townread) will be chosen and i don't know why that should ever be a deterring factor in discussing reads Since you've townread basically everyone active except me, that means you think some of the more lurky people are scum.
More lurky people are less likely to have pored through every single post of all 12 pages (the more pages there are, the less inclined they are to read all of it) summarizing everything into a list makes things super easy for someone just skimming through instead of carefully reading each post.
If I were a semi-active scum I would just be looking at your list and picking people off from that because that's easier than actually reading.
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 1, 2019 21:34:02 GMT
do people here not make tonal/gut reads? im so astonished obviously not that's why i didn't make a list of my gut reads 20 hours ago and why i don't gut read you as town /s |
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how am i scum exactly
