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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 7, 2019 19:27:20 GMT
Snaq ◢ ◤ thoughts on sircloud ?? he has since been inactive after whatever that was he was pressuring me for Not a fan of the slot, they've seemed to have avoided contributing for most of day 1 until they were forced into it. Reminds me that I have to check up on the early day 2 stuff as I was mostly working on reading day 1,, ur fine take your time, i just hope this day results in someone other than me being lynched.
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 7, 2019 19:09:41 GMT
Snaq ◢ ◤ thoughts on sircloud ?? he has since been inactive after whatever that was he was pressuring me for
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 7, 2019 18:56:58 GMT
Lets also stop all accusations of gamethrowing as it's pointless and doesn't help at all. If someone is truly gamethrowing host should handle it nah because i am clearly gamethrowing
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 7, 2019 18:55:04 GMT
After getting home from work, i have decided that my reads are as follows Thunderballz Duskfall - why is this being lynched? Nuxl Ayia - null King Derp Dayan??
Snaq ◢ ◤ i get i didnt fully explain the read, and no one really answered my question yday about why is was exactly being lynched, but his posts are vtownie to me, and still hold true today.
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 7, 2019 18:53:26 GMT
and another note, literally anything can be called buddying or piggybacking, but you people have to realize at a certain point that Town reads are Town reads and my read on nuxl atm is currently that. Alex had a great entrance and ever since he’s been nonexistent which is annoying but still not really worth fussing about Dusk is the most iffy slot of the 3 rn but honestly I have trouble even seeing him as scum the interaction with nuxl while nuxl was drunk about Ayia just pinged me as unnecessary fluff but he’s had enough presence and relevant info to passably be called town i have been non-existant? have you even been reading lol qtball is non existant which is annoying
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 7, 2019 18:50:15 GMT
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 7, 2019 18:49:56 GMT
also Snaq ◢ ◤ and @qtball i am here until dl if you wanna talk more
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 7, 2019 18:47:48 GMT
Alexander489 , I'd love it if you spoke some more before the deadline esp re: the topics I brought up but realistically anything. I'd hoped to see some posts from you now that I'm back but maybe you've not been online? Regardless I need to see more from you and have you explain what you think as I stand by the read I gave lsat night. For now lynch alex nah i just woke up, my bad
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 7, 2019 18:47:23 GMT
Also I FINALLY just finished reading into the cuddleszz kill and realized he was the only one yesterday who scum read Alex... and I’m shook, I need to reread alex’s D1 yes like i would kill cud after he srs me, thats totally how i play. gg tbz
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 7, 2019 18:46:28 GMT
btw i still heavily believe nuxl is town, so i will not be voting him, if he wants to claim and look for a place to cfd onto, lynching me would be fine, depending on if his reads change. First off, I'm glad you responded and are willing to play the game. I really disliked your series of stuff from yesterday. I also really don't want Nuxl to be lynched right now (despite him not saying anything today). You're definitely someone who I wouldn't mind to lynch right now, but for now what do you think about Duskfall and my reasons for SRing him. I was surprised at it but wouldn't mind lynching him at this point. Kotsyt is probably the best afk slot to lynch right now due to his few scummy messages :\. I don't oppose that lynch either also@admin it may seem like i am arguing about activity, but that is only because those are the questions i am being presented, if you see my other posts about game they are not towards my acitivty and it would help if ayia/sircloud would stop bombarding me just to harrass me <3 but anyway dl is tomorrow i think and i hate the lynch on nuxl, i am willing to shift to anyone else, as long as its not me Alright cool, do you have a reads list anywhere / would you please post it otherwise? which is short for: "I really hope you are scum because if you're not then you are gamethrowing and honestly I'm willing to use one of our two remaining mislynches on you. Not your slot, you."
Okay I really dislike the way he's playing too, but tunnelling like this isn't going to help anyone especially when we're also dealing with three (?) people who should probably be subbed at this point. Who would you see as an Alex!Scum partner to keep the discussion productive? Talking about subs, Fenrir I believe we just got three subs signed up yesterday and I'm not sure if there's more left. Regardless I'd like to see a bit more initiative in looking and finding subs. The games get really hard and annoying to play with these players. I'm willing to help you look for subs, as long as you sub them in and give me permission to do so. Maybe get someone to ping them on PS but we really need subs soon while it's still relatively early in the game.. duskfall is town
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 7, 2019 18:45:34 GMT
which is short for: "I really hope you are scum because if you're not then you are gamethrowing and honestly I'm willing to use one of our two remaining mislynches on you. Not your slot, you."
im gamethrowing? lol
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 7, 2019 4:07:09 GMT
Day 2.1 Votecount———————— nuxl (2)-ayia, duskfall alexander489 (2)- Fort Fortifies Fort's Fortress , sircloud IvanTheBest (2)- qtball, Alexander489 Not Voting (5)-edjeanerations, ivanthebest, kotsytbussiness20, nuxl, Lucas Day 2 will end on June 7 2019 at 7:30 PM EST (in roughly less than 19 hours as of writing this post). With 11 alive, it takes 6 to hammer. If the day were to end now, nuxl would be lynched. If there us any error with the votecount, please inform me via ping (@ ForgotToFlush) THANK YOU
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 7, 2019 3:20:48 GMT
Ok, hi everyone! I don't feel like nuxl would've ragequit at duskfall's actual ? play if he were mafia. That's what I think it is; nuxl seemed disgusted with what he saw as PS players' (oi im a PS player myself come fight me) incompetence throughout day 1, and I imagine the JK flip probably was the last straw. I admit that without nuxl here constantly making new posts I find myself checking the thread a lot less. Currently my reads are: lucas: firmtown. he's actively trying to keep this game together and put in the effort to give us his opinions on the entire game so far. sircloud: town. his activity feels like its been in the same vein as mine, which is someone new to forum mafia and willing +actively attempting to learn qtball: town. I feel like he's also been putting out his own ideas and generally feels town to me. nuxl: town. im pretty sure he just ragequit and thats all. duskcloud: back to null. I feel like his attempt to push on ragequit!nuxl could be an attempt to get us to use up one of our mislynches, but at the same time i don't feel like they're scum. at the same time i recognize that they're good enough to seem town as mafia. ayia: tiny scumlean. I still dont like how they responded to nuxl's pressure yesterday, but i like their answers today much more. alex: i recognize that i want him to be scum at this point so my reads will not be unbiased. my lynch stays here. afks: since we're not allowed to ping you on discord im going to ask why are you in this game and whether or not fenrir has been pinging you on discord + ps + your doorbell irl + everything in between "alex: i recognize that i want him to be scum at this point so my reads will not be unbiased. my lynch stays here." can you explain this more please? you are lynching me yet you know in your head that you just WANT me to be scum? im confused
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 7, 2019 3:19:26 GMT
(note i am also down for a kots lynch)
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 7, 2019 3:18:29 GMT
What triggers me the most is Fenrir isn’t gonna pay attention to the game until deadline lol can we get an additional co-host? or an active host
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 7, 2019 3:18:05 GMT
unlynch ayia lynch ivan goes to show he is not contributing or presetning anything to the game, and he is one of the only spots i can shift to lol
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 7, 2019 3:17:08 GMT
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 7, 2019 3:16:56 GMT
also@admin it may seem like i am arguing about activity, but that is only because those are the questions i am being presented, if you see my other posts about game they are not towards my acitivty and it would help if ayia/sircloud would stop bombarding me just to harrass me <3 but anyway dl is tomorrow i think and i hate the lynch on nuxl, i am willing to shift to anyone else, as long as its not me
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 7, 2019 3:15:06 GMT
btw i still heavily believe nuxl is town, so i will not be voting him, if he wants to claim and look for a place to cfd onto, lynching me would be fine, depending on if his reads change.
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 7, 2019 3:14:11 GMT
Fort: Everyone ganged up on him at the start of the game. Maybe it was for not too much happening onto that point but it read as if some scum were on it to try to give someone a target on their head early on. Don't see him being scum with anyone either right now. Really my strongest townread right now, especially since throughout the game he's gone against the flow, stood out from the crowd and asked many things that had to be asked imo. One thing I did notice is that throughout the game more people started reading him as town? I'm not really sure what this means honestly Nuxl: Apparently everyone is flipping on him? I still don't feel like he's all that scummy. From the start of the game I've gotten the same kinda vibe from him where he really helped the game forward and asked critical questions. Townlean for me. Main question is where's he been day 2?? Ayia: The slot I'm currently most confused about. Ayia probably has had the most interesting interactions out of any slot. They've had some horrible posts where they used very weak reasoning imo and contradicted themselves, while also having decent posts where they question and respond well. Currently I feel like it's town due to the frustration against Nuxl feeling real.. TBZ: null right now. I found the start pretty scummy with his spotty reasoning and bad push. I initially read him with Ayia trying to push fort into a corner together silently. However, throughout the game I found TBZ getting better having many similar reads to what I have, which evened it out a bit. I could still see the Ayia + TBZ scumteam where they bus a bit (via Ayia questioning the towncore). Especially since TBZ had Ayia as an interaction SR with derped that I don't really get, lynched derped and now doesn't find Ayia scum anymore. Ivan: did he ever post? Edje: Only post read town to me, but honestly null at this point for continued inactivity and as I said before, not following up the mindset could easily be scum too that faked it for one post but wanted to lurk. Kotsyt: for me the worst of the lurkers, his posts just weren't good at all. SirCloud: Scumlean for him actively trying to avoid contributing at various points in the game... Duskfall: While making this readslist I realised I never really established a strong read on him while playing the game, which is a bad sign out of itself when noticed. So this is the only read where I actually read back on the game instead of trusting my earlier posted reads / what I remembered. Whereas I TR Nuxl, I feel like Dusk has largely lived in the shadow of Nuxl to me this game. The conversations with Nuxl are okay, it gets activity and it's probably the most important player to him to talk to this game. His posts show that he's a good player (due to the explanations of things he gives) but unlike Nuxl he doesn't really seem to push the game forward outside of the town core which i never liked and seems to have fallen apart. He defends himself at times, he asks more general questions. I just feel like... he's not actually done that much useful. I like that he questioned the Ayia wagon at once, but none of it really seems like he wanted to push it. To me it's as if he's faking activity while not actually helping the game out much. Alex: Agreed that he's mostly arguing about his activity now. I don't like this slot. Most of his "activity" besides the arguing is small posts without much content, or at least VERY few explanations. Alex wyd... are you just going to complain about the game or are you actually going to try? I'd like you to try to give me a reason not to lynch you before the deadline, because I really dislike your slot right now Now it's onto you all to respond yes.
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 7, 2019 3:13:04 GMT
Aight Page 21. Let's start the final 10 pages The game is really getting more substantial at this point. The first post here that properly analyses something is Fort. Here he mentions that derped + Ayia + (possibly dusk) could be an active scumteam. However, he also mentions that derped hasn't interacted much and has mostly just been scummy on his own... which I agree with. I've never really read fort as scum due to the way other people ganged up on him while he only had a few mediocre posts and imo has been a pretty good player otherwise. There's SirCloud saying more useless stuff. I don't think I'm liking this slot very much but still looking forward to the promised land. TBZ read Ayia + derped which I don't really get at this point still, I think I asked about this and he told me to read back, tho? Alex argues about him not being inactive when he's really not done much. I don't see why he's trying to deny this but it's pretty odd to me. Alexander489 what do you define as active? Furthermore says his reads haven't changed. Would've liked to see him comment on the actual stuff happening more, feels lazy :\ Also a post from Ayia that I don't really like. I just really don't like this page lmfao. Responds to Nuxl's one liners, but the thing I dislike most here is the "In that case, I still scumread you for changing your read on me to match tbz's". It feels a bit childish even, as if Ayia didn't consider the point and still SRs. Regardless, I'm living for the interactions Ayia has with everyone. I definitely do not see an Ayia + Nuxl team at this point, since I don't think scum!ayia would be able to pretend to be so frustrated at scum!nuxl over an orchestrated thing. Honestly, at this point I'm starting to buy into the theory of ayia being frustrated town more, although I still don't like the way they've played in places such as this. For whether Nuxl is scum based on this, let's look at his next post Nuxl attacks Ayia's SR, which seems fair enough to me as it is pretty bad. I'm kinda getting a bit of town v town vibes here where they're just distracting each other from real scum. Especially with Nuxl staying kinda calm instead of using this opportunity to just push Ayia, which would've been really easy at this point i feel. Unlynch AyiaThis is only page 21, but I typed up so much about it I decided to post this as a standalone Active in my mind is talking about the game while contributing heavily to it, making scumreads and leading town towards victory, along with asking ppl questionsn
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 6, 2019 13:33:02 GMT
lol @ people wanting me subbed
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 6, 2019 3:04:03 GMT
Why did i have to be put in the worst game lol, i would rather be in 1 or 3
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 6, 2019 3:03:18 GMT
Snaq if you want an answer to that question go back and find where I explained it None of today’s content is even worth reading you guys are arguing about playstyles lik just lynch me so i can get out of this hell
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 6, 2019 3:02:15 GMT
since my last post i read through page 30 unlynch edjelynch alexander because i'd rather an afk mafia win than this shitposting contentlessly defensive fake-activity literally alex's only contributions so far are a readslist and "i am active and leading town" repeated over and Alexander489 - Scumlean Lucas ◢ ◤ - Null (I want to see interaction) duskfall - Hardtown Fort Fortifies Fort's Fortress - Townlean edjeanerations - Null (can we sub this?) ivanthebest - pls sub kotsytbussiness20 - pls sub nuxl - Scum qtball - Townread sircloud - Townlean Obviously, I think nuxl is scum for a few interactions yesterday. For that reason, tbz must be town; I stated several times that I cannot see a tbz / nuxl scum team. I have always been skeptical Alex for the same reason everyone else has, and with more people becoming active and me getting more reads, I'm more confident to turn this into a scum lean. In addition, this scum team is quite possible with nuxl, as as Snaq stated, nuxl was very quick to brush off any scum read of Alex. SirCloud is someone I'm hoping to see more active later. They've had a good start to the day, so I'm hoping to see more of it. As of right now, I townlean them, but again, that will possibly change as interactions increase. Right now, I have a difficult time placing in the scum team I have set out. After posting this I'll analyze the Alex / SirCloud interaction of the last page and this one more closely to see for possible scum team. I can't see duskfall as scum. Not only do I see a nuxl / dusk team as possible, but the reaction after pressure seemed very townie. Fort's actions I see more and more as town the more the game goes on, as he continues to do actions I think are (and have called him out for being) scum. I don't see this read changing. From this, I see the final scum member as someone in Ivan, Kotsy, Ed, and Snaq, from most likely to least likely. This entire scum team depends on the validity of my nuxl scumread. For that reason, nuxl is the most useful lynch for me. Lynch nuxl Q: Why do you see ivan,kotsy,Ed in that order? Specifically, why is kotsy between Ed and ivan, who have done basically the exact same thing? (make one post and disappear) js i am not shitposting, i wish good town was active rn, i could really use that to defend me. Is that a scumread on literally everyone active? Which is to say, nuxl, dusk, ayia, lucas, qtball, sircloud, and me?
/me slowly conditions myself to use lucas instead of snaq so as to not be a hypocrite
im not even going to respond to this, its not even worth it, you guys are trying to get a reaction out of me and im just done, if you wanna harasss me contact me outside of this, not during game.
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