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Post by Edjeanerations on Oct 5, 2023 13:00:46 GMT
Can someone quote all the vc updates, I don’t want to ping flush 10 times wdym vc updates? If you want to see the votes you can use the search function and filter it by FTF's posts
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Post by Edjeanerations on Oct 5, 2023 12:59:45 GMT
Also prod being up means iavh is last. It's been a while since I've spoken about the trial order so what do we think about these two slots and their positions?
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Post by Edjeanerations on Oct 5, 2023 12:57:59 GMT
and hey in my defense I forgot to vote so uh... don't blame me for the flip?
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Post by Edjeanerations on Oct 5, 2023 12:57:19 GMT
Actually no PD does have a really good point here. Ik I said recently I've been skimming some posts but I've legit been skimming all but like, two of schia's posts because imo there's not too much of substance in them. Though I'm just preaching to the choir here because I'm pretty sure people have been saying this for a handful of days but that still doesn't make it any less true! Also Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ MyanMario can you two explain why you nv'ed Clouds here? I can see it coming from abdel, I can see it coming from Kliff, I... don't... really care about wob's vote on it? Not in like a mean way but idk he's not my main priority right now, I've kinda forgotten about him since his trial. But as for you two, I would really like to know what makes you want to keep this guy in the game. Schia I know you said to me that he was off his rocker but still town and like, while I do agree with the rocker bit (sorry Clouds) I'm DEFINITELY seeing it as desperation in an attempt to sway + control the game by saving teammates and pushing town. And Myan, hasn't Clouds been pushing you forever? Not that I would want you to omgus for the sake of omgussing but why do you tr him? Edjeanerations nice man basing whether or not someone should be voting me off of if i'm townreading them, very commendable i'm tr'ing kliff & abby who you say you it's reasonable for them to be nv'ing me then, and sr'ing schia so therefore schia should vote me. same with myan, who i don't even know if i'm sr'ing and it's more linked to thread treatment, but you still say they should vote me due to me voting them Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ like do you read this? what strikes you as townie with this whatsoever? I detect no sarcasm here. Thank you Clouds! Also yeah I love omgussing and it works like 65% of the time, not even kidding. And I don't mean direct "you're voting me so fuck you I'm voting you" but "you're pushing me for the complete wrong reasons and that makes you scummy" so yeah. I mean I didn't omgus you the entire game but by like day 8 you ripped it out of me Re bold: yeah lol because you, Kliff, and Abby have had decent interactions with each other so it makes sense that they would nv you. On the other hand I don't think your interactions with Schia and Myan have been as sweet. That's why I asked them why they did it. Because I want information. And I'm pretty sure Schia thinks I'm town because 1. I'm town and 2. I'm cool
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Post by Edjeanerations on Oct 4, 2023 14:42:31 GMT
ok kliff wdyt of schia scumreading you & peng and then coming to me and saying i'm misled? what's your read on schia? peng you too? schia is tunneling town lol now you know how it feels to be schiatunneled
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Post by Edjeanerations on Oct 4, 2023 14:41:07 GMT
this one, a few days later 4 days went by actually disregard this, there's absolutely nothing wrong with you asking that question and actually I'm curious as well
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Post by Edjeanerations on Oct 4, 2023 14:40:42 GMT
i think someone asked me earlier edj: probably mafiapeng: prob town unless edj flips, will reconsider schia: nothing towny fmpov, possibly mafia/null clouds: solid tr atm winsy: prob gets axed always abdel: i need to reread, null sand: I want to think theyre town but like.. meh need mroe time kliff: probably mafia iavh: town if they continue talking/being towny prod: null wob: null ill check em tmrw this one, a few days later 4 days went by
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Post by Edjeanerations on Oct 4, 2023 14:40:14 GMT
unless it's the wagon composition, in which case i point you back to what i said earlier about it probably being just 1 scum voting me, offchance of 2, but [ihbst/clem/edj] are definitely not all scum that stacked on me, there's no way edj would do that if he was partnered with both ihbst & clem. i'd expect scum are angling more to keep me alive here? still gutread is that it's exactly 1 scum voting me as opposed to none or 2+ i also think edj voting me in retaliation cause he wants to "be free" is kinda townie honestly cause i'd expect scum to try to fake a reason that i'm mafia instead of just say they're voting me to relieve pressure off themselves Can I ask why you think scum would want to keep you alive? Is it because they think you don't have them pinned? is it because they think you DO have them pinned? Or do you think people are going for a pocket because you're the biggest player here?
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Post by Edjeanerations on Oct 4, 2023 13:57:46 GMT
again i would put myself early + never after clouds cuz thats always a bad play ftr the only thing that would make me reconsider my tr on them is if someone analyzed the full trial order so far nvwho is after me btw can we poe it yet This says a lot… uh explain?
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Post by Edjeanerations on Oct 4, 2023 12:37:08 GMT
just played two turbos on mu as mafia and i came back to this thread and almost forgot i'm not mafia lmao
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Post by Edjeanerations on Oct 4, 2023 12:36:14 GMT
vote myanmariothey purposely put the myanmario vote AFTER the ihbst vote bc they knew that they wanted myan to live(lol!) again i would put myself early + never after clouds cuz thats always a bad play ftr the only thing that would make me reconsider my tr on them is if someone analyzed the full trial order so far nvwho is after me btw can we poe it yet There's two people left so its prod and iavh. So yeah we can poe it haha Also WIFOM sister Also also I will not be analyzing the full trial order. Someone else do it
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Post by Edjeanerations on Oct 4, 2023 12:32:33 GMT
what do you mean, schia's been openly sr'ing kliff all game, how have you missed that i highkey cant read anything from schia unless its like super direct Actually no PD does have a really good point here. Ik I said recently I've been skimming some posts but I've legit been skimming all but like, two of schia's posts because imo there's not too much of substance in them. Though I'm just preaching to the choir here because I'm pretty sure people have been saying this for a handful of days but that still doesn't make it any less true! Also Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ MyanMario can you two explain why you nv'ed Clouds here? I can see it coming from abdel, I can see it coming from Kliff, I... don't... really care about wob's vote on it? Not in like a mean way but idk he's not my main priority right now, I've kinda forgotten about him since his trial. But as for you two, I would really like to know what makes you want to keep this guy in the game. Schia I know you said to me that he was off his rocker but still town and like, while I do agree with the rocker bit (sorry Clouds) I'm DEFINITELY seeing it as desperation in an attempt to sway + control the game by saving teammates and pushing town. And Myan, hasn't Clouds been pushing you forever? Not that I would want you to omgus for the sake of omgussing but why do you tr him?
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Post by Edjeanerations on Oct 4, 2023 12:25:02 GMT
Okay maybe I should've tried to be here to explain more but you guys just took the biggest L of the century here. I just couldn't because my days have been getting increasingly busier but I'll do my best for today
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Post by Edjeanerations on Oct 3, 2023 19:58:46 GMT
um I'm ngl we're 47 pages into this game and I'm doing more skimming than actually reading right now so forgive me if I miss anything important But also since this is gonna clear up SO much about the game for yall Vote Cloudsinteresting what do you think it’ll clear up in particular? ME I'll finally be freeeeeee and also all of these theories you're crafting about my partners can be thrown out the winder (window)
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Post by Edjeanerations on Oct 3, 2023 16:31:13 GMT
um I'm ngl we're 47 pages into this game and I'm doing more skimming than actually reading right now so forgive me if I miss anything important But also since this is gonna clear up SO much about the game for yall
Vote Clouds
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Post by Edjeanerations on Oct 3, 2023 16:29:00 GMT
you also have to remember i've never played a forum game with you edj, i'm not sure if you just naturally treat every slot as if they're town like this when you're town, i have no precedent to go off of here Yeah but my dude we played like every summer circuit game together, and not to mention several PS games. You really don't have any inkling of how I may act and treat people normally?
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Post by Edjeanerations on Oct 3, 2023 16:27:40 GMT
considering how much you're willing to push me like this and develop almost THE ENTIRE GAME around me despite the fact that you nv'ed me yeah i love when i nv'd you, i remember when that definitely happened wait fuck did you not? :o
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Post by Edjeanerations on Oct 3, 2023 16:27:06 GMT
honestly? I'm sick of novoters because people dont realize that no vote only benefits scum and your townreads?? The deafult should be to vote! who agrees Ayo? This dude might have a point
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Post by Edjeanerations on Oct 2, 2023 15:25:10 GMT
Sorry I wasn't on yesterday to join the vote party on winsy but I really don't do PS! stuff on weekends. Friday and Saturday were pushing it for me Now that abby is up I can confidently No Vote
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Post by Edjeanerations on Oct 2, 2023 15:22:24 GMT
Current Thoughts on Winsy from myself: Atm I see a lot of players just saying "Winsy is openwolfing" and not giving much of anything further from there, and others just jumping onto the relative statement as well without giving much context behind it, IE: its a relatively easy statement to jump onto without much explanation or cause for looking at any other reasons. Beyond that I dont think ive seen a real scum case yet for Winsy, id like to try to see if its possible to consider the alternative with anything theyve provided (I like to consider the other side of things it helps expand my view) Well lets see then. I dont think these lines were necessarily made in bad faith. For context the first 2 quotes are from the first Trial (EDJ) and the final quote is from the 3rd Trial (Spiderz/Kliff) Id start by taking a look at the first 2 to try to see behind them. I think overall the first 2 give off the impression of "im willing to question things even when i initially agree with them" I think overall thats a generally good viewpoint to have its not necessarily flip flopping but its more of the vibe that "something happend and maybe its worth slowing down and questioning" I think the second quote here isnt necessarily overly bad either asking for a fellow player to be more specific or prompting them to further explain is good for clarification. I didnt quote it here but i think their reaction to seeing that they are on trial is interesting, id expect something different tbh and before its asked "what would you expect" cuz we all know someone will ask it if i dont answer it now, tbh id expect most players to give reasoning to not vote them or at least something different than what is currently being given. What im currently saying is No Votethis is absolutely mafia if winsy is town, nobody in their right mind would be townreading winsy right now unless they had the benefit of knowing winsy wasn't scum due to tmi and that they'd look better no voting if winsy is mafia, this is town winsytinsy can you give some sort of a clue here if you're town? gonna be disappointed if you are and you're jsut rolling over and playing dead like a possum I'm a little confused as to where Prod says they're townreading winsy. Clouds I'm pretty sure you're seeing everything as a dichotomy in this game, which is not the case. Yes, we do have Town vs Not town as the only roles, but just because someone does something that isn't inherently scummy that doesn't mean the person townreads the individual Also Phoenix Wright what were you cooking with this "clue" thing lol.
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Post by Edjeanerations on Oct 2, 2023 15:07:25 GMT
does anyone know if winsy just hates playing when he rolls scum? i definitely remember him being less active in ps maf games when he's scum so it lines up a bit here. but compared to previous games, he's really out of it & it's surprising like if wolf he's so openwolf right now that i'm confused about if he even intended to try No that's not it. If you look back at the colosseum game Winsy wasn't very active there either and he was town. I think his activity may rely moreso on whether there are prs in the game or not though lol
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Post by Edjeanerations on Oct 2, 2023 15:05:08 GMT
unrelated sidenote after catching up: there's not enough "your logic doesn't make sense to me but i can see how you got there" in this game for me & too much "your logic doesn't make sense to me so you're scummy" in this game... don't like that focus, and i feel like that's how town loses games the most, by voting out town that make reads that are bad on paper and falling into the trap of feeling like they need to vote out the player who made less sense You are in fact one of the people pushing this notion
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Post by Edjeanerations on Oct 2, 2023 15:00:17 GMT
wob had a decent enough amount of content to make of no he didn't yeah he really didn't, reason for my vote in the first place. It was enough to get him through the first few days but overall not nearly enough
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Post by Edjeanerations on Oct 2, 2023 14:59:20 GMT
So let's start with the italicized part. I've already said that most of these people are VERY VERY finicky which is why I have felt wishy-washy on so many people. Prodigu is not the only person I have said this about so it still amazes me that you're ignoring everything else I've said about others and instead focusing on this just to make yourself sound correct. Re:bold: Bro why are you still pushing this kind of stuff. Like I don't even know how to respond to it. It feels more like bait than anything so I feel like I shouldn't humor it but seriously? You're saying me saying smth about Myan early d1, going to bed, waking up and realizing several hours later that I didn't remember why I said it is all due to me talking in scumchat during the pregame? It really just feels like you're trying to grasp for straws at this point and it's getting kinda upsetting because idk if you're just getting desperate or if you actually believe it, but either way it's quite badly Very good post here. What is this I hear about you accidentally town reading myan? What is your read on myan?hrm maybe i should've flipped that edj waited so long to no vote wob despite townreading him... potentially didn't want to no vote a partner quickly but instead wanted to vote when it was safe? edj's progression was like this: strongly townreads wob earlier --> votes wob immediately when he's on trial --> "not gonna unvote wob unless i see a reason from him directly" --> wob comes online and makes two nai comments --> edj switches plur to nv something feels so off about that? how do you go from a townread to voting to unvoting just because someone appeared and had a presence that wasn't townie whatsoever? I believe it is worth noting that it reflects positively on EDJ. I would expect !scum EDJ to cast their vote and move on. I fail to see what !scum EDJ would gain from switching to the "save Wob" team unless they were trying to protect a fellow Mafia member. The timing of Wob's appearance and EDJ's sudden unvote came off a bit strange to me. The most
significant implication I see from this sequence of events is the possibility of Wob and EDJ being Mafia partners.Re: Bold ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/99930/thread and ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/99936/threadD1 I said I tl'ed Myan for something and legit couldn't remember why I said Myan, later I mentioned that I meant to say Spiderz but accidentally said Myan. Idk if I was reading while typing or something but I said the wrong person. Clouds was trying to chalk it up to me slipping because I was talking to Myan in scumchat or whatever which is such a stretch. I was definitely just reading posts in the thread summary as I typed my reply message Re: Italics I came back online a couple hours after I voted wob because I wanted to see if he said anything, and he hadn't, so I started responding to posts. It was also not too long after we found out about the extension though I had wanted to check the game out one last time before I knocked out for the night. I mean yeah wob came on like half an hour later but at the same time why is it bad that multiple people were online before the supposed dl? Is that supposed to implicate everyone who was online at the time? I didn't unvote because I thought wob was town, I unvoted because I wanted to hear from him and I did, which is why I said we should discuss more later once he's not feeling like shit. Which hopefully is now
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Post by Edjeanerations on Oct 2, 2023 14:49:08 GMT
hrm maybe i should've flipped that edj waited so long to no vote wob despite townreading him... potentially didn't want to no vote a partner quickly but instead wanted to vote when it was safe? edj's progression was like this: strongly townreads wob earlier --> votes wob immediately when he's on trial --> "not gonna unvote wob unless i see a reason from him directly" --> wob comes online and makes two nai comments --> edj switches plur to nv something feels so off about that? how do you go from a townread to voting to unvoting just because someone appeared and had a presence that wasn't townie whatsoever? So do you ever really read what I say or do you just skim and think you've gotten the whole thing First of all you lied about whatever that 'quote' is because I never said that or anything like that. My thoughts on the wob trial can be found here ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/100376/thread and here ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/100382/thread. Like you're legitimately starting to tick me off because you're just making stuff up for the sake of what? I literally don't get what reads you're trying to make if the information used to back those reads is fake. I really didn't think that you could be scum because I just thought you were playing poorly but considering how much you're willing to push me like this and develop almost THE ENTIRE GAME around me despite the fact that you nv'ed me, AND the fact that my trial has looong gone and you now know that nobody is gonna be able to confirm my role for a long time makes me finally believe that you're scum who's really trying to pull the strings on this game. For a while even though I disagreed with what you have said I didn't sr you, but over the last couple of days you've become increasingly desperate and it's really showing. And yes, at the beginning of the game I did tl wob! He didn't have much but the little bit that he did have was enough for me to want to let him slide. If you check those posts I linked I made a reference to this fact, and I basically said I would unvote wob if his activity improves, since it seemed like he wouldn't show up for his trial. He showed up and mentioned that he wasn't feeling good and that was right before dl, so yes I shifted off because I'm not just gonna vote someone because they gave a reason why they couldn't make it earlier. Also forgive me for changing my reads, I didn't know whatever I said d1 or d2 was supposed to stick with me till the day I die I didn't say anything about wob's posts being townie, but I did say we could revisit this stuff later for r2 so at least we'd get time to discuss. Literally the only time I gave a legit read on wob was when you asked if I thought he was scummy for doing something, and I said "no that thing didn't make him scummy" and then you once again put words into my mouth and said I was hard defending him. Why do you keep pushing that I'm some sort of ride or die bitch for this guy
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