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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 25, 2021 4:34:15 GMT
the issue with this poe is that somehow both of them instantly jumped to thinking litt was scum after last day so there is the chance that im way off base and these two are just galaxy brain players who are both in sync but both of them independently arriving to the same conclusion like that is throwing me for a loop like what exactly are you seeing there
thoughts on the likelihood of chap choosing to rb as scum? it's probably more likely he lied about rbing as scum
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Post by quojova on Jan 25, 2021 4:34:47 GMT
also I came back to this thread to say that no one should dayvig anyone outside of the bottom 1-2 consensus townies
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Post by quojova on Jan 25, 2021 4:35:13 GMT
thoughts on the likelihood of chap choosing to rb as scum? it's probably more likely he lied about rbing as scum
litt and grendel confirmed his rb
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 25, 2021 4:36:01 GMT
it's probably more likely he lied about rbing as scum
litt and grendel confirmed his rb oh right zzz
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 25, 2021 4:37:08 GMT
who knows why anyone did anything litt tried to nympho for christ's sake
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Post by grendel on Jan 25, 2021 4:37:43 GMT
ForgotToFlushwhat are your thoughts on my confirming Ch7 RB'ing Litt last night? You think he would do that as scum?
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Post by grendel on Jan 25, 2021 4:38:34 GMT
ninja'd lol
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 25, 2021 4:44:16 GMT
bloodhound on quojova, it's drawback is that it's only correct 50% of the time it returned NOT TOWN on quojova therefore he is scum profit Good try however this is impossible as I roleblocked you last night And according to host my drawback is that I can't use a roleblock for the rest of the game. So unless someone wants to claim doing something that would prevent my roleblock from happening Litt is scum from my POV. Lynch Litt
I respect the play tho, gotta do what you gotta do after losing your partner.
you know i feel like it's more telling that chappie just bought the joke hook line and sinker before anything else like he just skipped over the whole gap in logic thing litt did and insta-jumped to no u
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Post by grendel on Jan 25, 2021 4:49:47 GMT
I sort of assumed it was more likely you were memeing rather than small giving that whack drawback and you accepting but I didn't want to give the easy out :/ the only benefit I can see to nymphoing chap is if you strongly believe him to be mafia. Is that accurate? it's more that lover is such a fitting way to tell interactions because of the lover's pact i was planning on acting extremely scummy for the whole of today to advance my read on chap because me dying = his dying and it's unstoppable if the lover goes through however, it's not completely damning if I end up reading him as town off it, like a sui bomber. also accelerates the gamestate if double death happens and both of us are town, means 'clears' are much more likely to make it to lylo This sounds town-like actually. It'd be a very skillful play to come up with this as a fake night action in the limited time frame from potentially seeing their kill didn't go through to making their trolly starting post. smallworldz Theoretically would a lover learn if they fail to link themselves by daystart? Would they not receive that info? -/-/-/-/- Has everybody came out with their night actions besides PSTD?
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Post by quojova on Jan 25, 2021 4:52:41 GMT
Good try however this is impossible as I roleblocked you last night And according to host my drawback is that I can't use a roleblock for the rest of the game. So unless someone wants to claim doing something that would prevent my roleblock from happening Litt is scum from my POV. Lynch Litt
I respect the play tho, gotta do what you gotta do after losing your partner.
you know i feel like it's more telling that chappie just bought the joke hook line and sinker before anything else like he just skipped over the whole gap in logic thing litt did and insta-jumped to no u
telling towards what alignment? someone was making a point earlier - I think it was az - that that impulsiveness was townie As of now I agree with him that scum wouldn't jump on that so eagerly. I mean from chap's pov it just begs the question: how did I manage to prove with complete certainty as the sole scum left in the game that someone else is the scum? that makes no sense; something else has to be at play here
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Post by quojova on Jan 25, 2021 4:55:28 GMT
it's more that lover is such a fitting way to tell interactions because of the lover's pact i was planning on acting extremely scummy for the whole of today to advance my read on chap because me dying = his dying and it's unstoppable if the lover goes through however, it's not completely damning if I end up reading him as town off it, like a sui bomber. also accelerates the gamestate if double death happens and both of us are town, means 'clears' are much more likely to make it to lylo This sounds town-like actually. It'd be a very skillful play to come up with this as a fake night action in the limited time frame from potentially seeing their kill didn't go through to making their trolly starting post. smallworldz Theoretically would a lover learn if they fail to link themselves by daystart? Would they not receive that info? -/-/-/-/- Has everybody came out with their night actions besides PSTD? I mean if he didn't have a fakeclaim prepared he could have just... not posted until he had one he was comfortable with
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Post by grendel on Jan 25, 2021 4:56:22 GMT
yeah, b/c if Litt wasnt informed that he his lover link failed, and he only just learned about it when Ch7 came out with the rb, then Litt's trolly opener today fits exactly into the play he outlined. To cowboy himself into the flip to take Ch7 with him.
Thats really town.
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Post by grendel on Jan 25, 2021 5:04:25 GMT
it's probably more likely he lied about rbing as scum
litt and grendel confirmed his rb ah, so litt was directly told he was rb'd. I guess he did have time to prepare for somebody pushing a potential RB result on him, and have a fake claim ready. I need to read posts more carefully.
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Post by quojova on Jan 25, 2021 5:07:33 GMT
yeah, b/c if Litt wasnt informed that he his lover link failed, and he only just learned about it when Ch7 came out with the rb, then Litt's trolly opener today fits exactly into the play he outlined. To cowboy himself into the flip to take Ch7 with him. Thats really town. I will agree there is some continuity between Litt's outlined plan to be really scummy and his opener and it decreases his scumchance slightly regardless though the opener is so nonsensical and unlikely to be interpreted as anything truly scummy in the long run that it seems plausible that he came up with a coincidental fakeclaim of cowboying nympho in the three hours he had after chap made his post that happened to somewhat match up with his opener (assuming the scenario that he wasn't notified of the lover link failing) I guess this is a pretty minor disagreement anyway given that we both think Litt is probably not scum
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Post by quojova on Jan 25, 2021 5:09:26 GMT
litt and grendel confirmed his rb ah, so litt was directly told he was rb'd. I guess he did have time to prepare for somebody pushing a potential RB result on him, and have a fake claim ready. I need to read posts more carefully. ^im not actually 100% certain about that; it's more like Litt didn't express any doubt about the rb once it came up so it's possible he didn't know until chap claimed it
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Post by grendel on Jan 25, 2021 5:29:32 GMT
I dont believe you elaborated which between Litt is scum vs Litt was the intended NK you feel more strongly on.
Im not sure how to quantify Non-Litt scum using a non-killing power ethier
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Post by grendel on Jan 25, 2021 5:36:04 GMT
If Litt is town then its also worth weighing weather f2f actually doc'd Litt, or if F2f was scum and he used a investigative immunity action.
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Post by quojova on Jan 25, 2021 5:38:41 GMT
I dont believe you elaborated which between Litt is scum vs Litt was the intended NK you feel more strongly on. Im not sure how to quantify Non-Litt scum using a non-killing power ethier I lean towards Litt being the intended nk by a considerable margin
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Post by quojova on Jan 25, 2021 5:39:04 GMT
If Litt is town then its also worth weighing weather f2f actually doc'd Litt, or if F2f was scum and he used a investigative immunity action. PYSCHOFLUSH PYSCHOFLUSH PYSCHOFLUSH PYSCHOFLUSH PYSCHOFLUSH PYSCHOFLUSH PYSCHOFLUSH PYSCHOFLUSH PYSCHOFLUSH
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Post by quojova on Jan 25, 2021 5:41:48 GMT
If Litt is town then its also worth weighing weather f2f actually doc'd Litt, or if F2f was scum and he used a investigative immunity action. PYSCHOFLUSH PYSCHOFLUSH PYSCHOFLUSH PYSCHOFLUSH PYSCHOFLUSH PYSCHOFLUSH PYSCHOFLUSH PYSCHOFLUSH PYSCHOFLUSH oops i typoed memes aside it's interesting to note that if ptsd's action doesn't mess with this, the only world in which ftf is scum is the one in which he used an investigative immunity action which lowers his scum odds significantly
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Post by grendel on Jan 25, 2021 5:53:07 GMT
I dont believe you elaborated which between Litt is scum vs Litt was the intended NK you feel more strongly on. Im not sure how to quantify Non-Litt scum using a non-killing power ethier I lean towards Litt being the intended nk by a considerable margin I _think_ thats where im at too. -/-/-/-/- pre-edit heheh, personally I think scum!flush is viable. It makes sense that any player that isnt widely TR'd would try to play defensively once they lost thier partner D1. Espeaslly since town was openly specing about using mass investigative yesterday. Which i contributed too unfortunately. I think im leaning on PTSP being final scum? I def dont think that is you, or Almost, or Chap7.
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Post by chapterseven on Jan 25, 2021 6:32:34 GMT
Good try however this is impossible as I roleblocked you last night And according to host my drawback is that I can't use a roleblock for the rest of the game. So unless someone wants to claim doing something that would prevent my roleblock from happening Litt is scum from my POV. Lynch Litt
I respect the play tho, gotta do what you gotta do after losing your partner.
you know i feel like it's more telling that chappie just bought the joke hook line and sinker before anything else like he just skipped over the whole gap in logic thing litt did and insta-jumped to no u
WHAT LOGIC IS THERE TO SKIP HE SAID HE BH SOMEONE WHEN I BLOCKED HIM. HOW WAS THAT WRONG FROM MY POV?
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Post by chapterseven on Jan 25, 2021 6:37:08 GMT
Good try however this is impossible as I roleblocked you last night And according to host my drawback is that I can't use a roleblock for the rest of the game. So unless someone wants to claim doing something that would prevent my roleblock from happening Litt is scum from my POV. Lynch Litt
I respect the play tho, gotta do what you gotta do after losing your partner.
you know i feel like it's more telling that chappie just bought the joke hook line and sinker before anything else like he just skipped over the whole gap in logic thing litt did and insta-jumped to no u
This implies you knew it was a joke from the start which wouldn't be possible as there's no way to know litt wasn't serious until after I had claimed
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Post by chapterseven on Jan 25, 2021 6:44:14 GMT
Good try however this is impossible as I roleblocked you last night And according to host my drawback is that I can't use a roleblock for the rest of the game. So unless someone wants to claim doing something that would prevent my roleblock from happening Litt is scum from my POV. Lynch Litt
I respect the play tho, gotta do what you gotta do after losing your partner.
you know i feel like it's more telling that chappie just bought the joke hook line and sinker before anything else like he just skipped over the whole gap in logic thing litt did and insta-jumped to no u
This is my third time replying to this post because this still makes no sense to me What Logic did litt have? There's no way for you me or anyone in the game to know that Litt was lying and really Nympho'd until after I claimed. So I do not see a problem with me calling litt out for what I assumed was a false claim.
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Post by chapterseven on Jan 25, 2021 6:46:28 GMT
I dont believe you elaborated which between Litt is scum vs Litt was the intended NK you feel more strongly on. Im not sure how to quantify Non-Litt scum using a non-killing power ethier If Litt is town, then I think an angle people didn't think of that's possible is poisoner. Which would both go through doctor and explain why Litt is town but there were no kills. If Poisoner activates EOD that would be 2 deaths which would take us into 3v1 nk and then Lylo.
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