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Post by grendel on Jan 21, 2021 6:27:40 GMT
Actully it looks like its:
Bath: (Quo, Litt, Zero)
Flush: (Bath, Ch7)
PTSD: (Grendel)
No vote: (PTSD)
-/-/-/-/-
I'll go ahead and consolidate onto bath to prevent a possible tie up VOTE:Bath.
Hopefully they are mafia.
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Post by AlmostZero on Jan 21, 2021 6:29:27 GMT
Also real quick not quoting it bc too tired to quote but AZ What do you mean the flush wagon grew fast? He's at 2 and one vote is from RVS? With that logic the Bath wagon grew faster explain what you mean a lil better hm? my issue isn't with flush wagon growing 'fast', but rather the fact that you chose to vote flush over bath for weird reasons. I mean, I don't know playermeta so I'm not going to comment on "FtF talked because he had two votes instead of one" |
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Post by grendel on Jan 21, 2021 6:36:59 GMT
Almost you're up, what ideas did you have for planning night actions?
idk who else will come along before EoD, but surely talking to a "Sideline" character is better then talking to no character at all. Ill be uup another hour roughly.
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Post by AlmostZero on Jan 21, 2021 6:40:06 GMT
this post is for @absolute zero I really dont think there is net scum value in accounting a willingness to utlity flip another player. However if it is like you say, F2F is good at reading Litt mid/late game. That's plausible scum motivation that I couldn't have accounted for at face value. How strongly do you feel its the case here? fair yeah generally agree with summary in that quo grendel seem town to me, the latter less so, and neither should be voted today unless a serious slip occurs i think i'll wait for bath to respond opinion seems decently split so not sure where to go yet, but I hope bath returns to the thread before like a random trucky shift also eod isn't very accessible in terms of simultaneous people online to discuss the final lynch, so need earlier consensus maybe it wasnt like hardcore preping but i def think that Litt was one of only ones who acknowledging we need to prepare for EoD. EoD is more valuable to town then scum, so i think town is more likely to make it a talking point. I guess Litt hasnt done much more then point it out since tho... Really im kinda embarrassed that i wasn't talking more about upcoming Flip since that's something i normally make a point to do. New envirment, and shorter day phase then normal for me i guess played into that? -/-/-/- I've never played a no set-up before. Im not sure how to strategize inthread w/ others. Like what sorta plans would give mafia enough information to counter at night, how can we subvert that, etc First things first, I.. don't think a suggestion for a policy in day bloody one is actually serious unless either players are genuinely trolling. And from Litt's other posts, it seems like they're actually trying to play the game, soooo Secondly, I'm not going to address Litt's EoD thing again. I genuinely mean it when I say that it is as null as it can get. Mentioning things doesn't do jack. Take this example; I say "We must scumhunt!" but unless I actually scumhunt I'm not really helping town now am I? |
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Post by AlmostZero on Jan 21, 2021 6:42:17 GMT
I'll go ahead and consolidate onto bath to prevent a possible tie up VOTE:Bath. Hopefully they are mafia. is your is your reason to vote bath literally just to 'prevent a possible tie up'? and and 'HOPEFULLY' THEY ARE MAFIA why are you HOPING you should be making READS i will turn into a dragon and breath out fire my lord |
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Post by AlmostZero on Jan 21, 2021 6:43:34 GMT
Almost you're up, what ideas did you have for planning night actions? idk who else will come along before EoD, but surely talking to a "Sideline" character is better then talking to no character at all. Ill be uup another hour roughly. Hey hey hey I'm being called 'sideline' character? Also I'm not familiar with all the available roles, I suppose we can do some bloodhound shit? |
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Post by grendel on Jan 21, 2021 6:54:31 GMT
yeah... maybe im wrong on Litt. I have to think about some things.
You seem pretty town zero, as does Quo/Ch7
I feel like im not a skillful enough player to have the whole scum team within a PoE of (PSTD, bath, F2F) the only one I have any confednce in being scum is PSTD. Other two are there for lack of towniness in comparions to others on the roster atp. Litt could be the scum outside that PoE
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Post by litteleven on Jan 21, 2021 6:54:39 GMT
chappie this is a microbrain take
did you think I was just going to afk for 72 whole hours
First off nothing micro bout me
Second off no I'm saying would you have reacted the way you did if there were 0 votes on you and 1 vote on you, than you did with 2 votes on you.
You seem far more aggressive which is the flush I'm used to playing with now that you have 2 votes on you with a potential 3rd.
However I will say that there is something I skimmed over with and only hit me now
litteleven seems kinda Lynch happy. Why did you bring up the idea of a Policy vote for 1. And two why would you want to Policy Flush over PTSD/AZ. Especially considering Flush is / was active at that time why were you quick to jump. You were quick to agree to my admitted not the strongest reasoning for lynching Flush, yet I've never once seen you mention that you had a Sr / sl on flush until rn hm? 'i will policy vote ftf if he doesn't provide popcorn content' a flush who doesn't banter is just lurking scum |
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Post by grendel on Jan 21, 2021 6:57:17 GMT
Being on a vanity wagon near EoD is against my religious beliefs. I shall compromise so that gods shall not smite me.
-/-/-/-
You called me a Sideline character earlier. I wasnt calling you that.
Whats "Bloodhound?"
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Post by litteleven on Jan 21, 2021 7:00:43 GMT
First off, I wish there were more notices, I keep forgetting about this game with no reminder of it. Skimming over the past couple of days here are my thoughts at the moment Bath: The tone coming from bath is very lazy, if that makes any sense. He’s giving out all these reads but there seems to be no direction in them, he brings up points and never addresses them, even his early read list seems to come from 0 place of though. most of his iso is just giving out random excuses for a mistake he made super early on and none of the excuses are in any way valid, it almost reminds me of the way Cayden was playing as scum, where there more excuses than there were posts that needed excusing. Grendel: The next person I have my eyes on is Grendel, very early on they seem to be excusing a lot of what Bath is doing with “They are from chat mafia” and “I used to do that every game I was town” and that seems to be relying a lot more on (I guess player meta is the best term to describe it?) rather than addressing any real in game points. ”PassTheSalt soft defending me is gross btw. It being a joke post doesn't make it any less of a buddying attempt.” Going on this basis that this isn’t a joke, it seems like a lazy stretch of the imagination to what was obviously an early game shitpost. This also seems to be their entire basis for the scumread, is the ‘Buddying attempt’ which overall seems like a lazy reasoning to scumread someone based off of a throw away joke. (Ignore the slight difference in color from here btw)
LittEleven: LittEleven is probably my strongest townread just from skimming through the pages, this has to deal with how conscience their posts are and how they manage to get straight to the point without going off the topic or trying to change the topic.
“I don't think this has been stated but one of the reasons that irked me is that bath is defensive, but not since bath is defensive. The response is framed in a way that he's he's referring to quo as town and pointing out that 'scum could be in the people who haven't talked' which is logically sound, but it's giving me scum too-much-information vibes, and while you can chalk it up to playstyle being off it's checking too many boxes on my ScumReadChecklist in addition to defensiveness + deflecting“ - LittEleven
That quote to me perfectly sums up why I am town leaning LittEleven, it doesn’t beat off the bush and it’s a very clear response to someone defending Bath, nothing about the quote seems to be pushing a certain scum agenda either, it seems to be providing a clear and thoughtful explanation on what is happening.
Those were the 3 I had the most to say about and I colored their names to be more clear, everyone else I don’t have as much to say
Quojova= A lesser town lean than Litt but they very much have given that same vibe of actively scumhunting and trying to figure out the game
*Flush VS Chap is Scum V Town*= from what I’ve seen. Chap came at flush very early for filtering despite chap being one of the first to filler themselves, which seems very hypocritical even if chap was trying to include some weird player meta in it. The way Chap defends Bath feels forced as well, chap keeps saying that Bath is actively trying to scumhunt but they haven’t quoted any of it and aren’t speaking on it. On the other side of the coin, Flush posts seem to go nowhere, from reading his posts I haven’t sensed a strong direction and I don’t think I’ve seen any hard reads for him or many reads at all.
my eyes hurt why would you ever do this i heavily disagree with the last statement. There's definitely a world where both chap and flush don't have scum agenda, and it's probably this one; flush's posts feel really strong to me in terms of analysis and chap isn't really defending bath based on bath's actions here, more of a 'people are pushing bath for reasons that shouldn't be actual reasons' grendel sr is lazy, can forgive it for the omgus pov, i think the rest is just some where the thread is at right now |
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Post by grendel on Jan 21, 2021 7:01:21 GMT
@litt what was your read on Flush rn? If you said then i missed it.
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Post by litteleven on Jan 21, 2021 7:09:30 GMT
still reading up but I've realised the day is 72 and not 48 hours so that's a little bit of burden off decision making
my vague chap=scum case loses quite some credibility points for that because it's def not going to be a directly scummotivated chap lynching there
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Post by litteleven on Jan 21, 2021 7:21:11 GMT
smallworldz can we get a votecount Also what's the plan @ night actions bc this is a NS? liked most of the slot till this line in a world of reads, the person who mentions the night first is worried about it or something not very AI but scum is supposed to do this more! on a real note, I think any info about planning only helps scum so I'm against discussing this at all today counterplay to organised play is much easier than to unorganised play, hence that read wise: best of both worlds approach in pushing bath with an fos on flush, not sure how to feel about that some decent amount of threadspew's gone into the reads but I don't think it's fabricated to fit I'll have to reread progression on grendel!scum when there's a time calculating it is necessary, however, I don't think that's required yet for me, assuming we get some good flips today. |
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Post by litteleven on Jan 21, 2021 7:22:37 GMT
@litt what was your read on Flush rn? If you said then i missed it. rn i'm at flush is more town than chappie for sure in the exchange between them but I still think both are reasonably town |
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Post by litteleven on Jan 21, 2021 7:26:59 GMT
bath is at L-1 here and I'm not sure how to feel about that yet, my progression on the slot hasn't changed but it's way too early (around 36 hours to DL) for us to think of ending day yet, especially cause ns can get pretty dumb so qhes aren't even bad for scum
unlynch bath
somewhat there in spirit, gonna deepread some slots
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Post by grendel on Jan 21, 2021 7:30:55 GMT
oh, i thought there was only like four hours left. unvote
Why werent people interested in flipping PSTD again?
PassTheSalt
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Post by grendel on Jan 21, 2021 7:32:44 GMT
i meant
Vote:PTSD
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Post by litteleven on Jan 21, 2021 7:35:44 GMT
threadreads so far on bath are preliminarily:
scum: me, quo,az,grendel, ptsd
town: chap,flush
if bath is town then it's very very likely that chap/flush has a scum.
can that really be true
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Post by litteleven on Jan 21, 2021 7:37:48 GMT
oh, i thought there was only like four hours left. unvoteWhy werent people interested in flipping PSTD again? PassTheSaltyeah this is a thing 72 not 48 ptsd is very low to me as of now and potential scum |
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Post by litteleven on Jan 21, 2021 7:45:42 GMT
believe the move is still to flip bath in that case? am being more and more sold on just bath!scum here from overall interactions with the last one being non poeable, but solvable with time
would be the occam's razor solution
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Post by litteleven on Jan 21, 2021 7:52:30 GMT
also really did az dirty with the sideline character line on another note lmao
i guess ptsd never committing theoretically puts one scum in {ptsd,chap,ftf} if bath = town so it's not very free and needs more deep understanding in hindsight
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Post by litteleven on Jan 21, 2021 8:00:20 GMT
BH = Bloodhound = cop for all factions
vote bath
regardless
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Post by AlmostZero on Jan 21, 2021 15:04:29 GMT
liked most of the slot till this line in a world of reads, the person who mentions the night first is worried about it or something not very AI but scum is supposed to do this more! on a real note, I think any info about planning only helps scum so I'm against discussing this at all today counterplay to organised play is much easier than to unorganised play, hence that read wise: best of both worlds approach in pushing bath with an fos on flush, not sure how to feel about that some decent amount of threadspew's gone into the reads but I don't think it's fabricated to fit I'll have to reread progression on grendel!scum when there's a time calculating it is necessary, however, I don't think that's required yet for me, assuming we get some good flips today. nah, disagreed i mean 'counterplay to organised play is much easier than unorganised play' two points; 1. Why isn't it possible to come up with a play that is counterable i mean this is NS, and 2. People like me are unfamiliar with 90% of the roles and if not any sort of plan then at least a list of actions that might be good will be helpful i do wanna continue this line of conversation however it really doesn't scumhunt also where do you stand @ the game rn? i don't want to put too many fos but along with flush/gren this slot is also leaning scum |
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Post by AlmostZero on Jan 21, 2021 15:06:21 GMT
@litt what was your read on Flush rn? If you said then i missed it. rn i'm at flush is more town than chappie for sure in the exchange between them but I still think both are reasonably town how are you deriving flush > chappie via their convo? did flush say anything in specific that makes you feel that way |
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Post by AlmostZero on Jan 21, 2021 15:08:38 GMT
bath is at L-1 here and I'm not sure how to feel about that yet, my progression on the slot hasn't changed but it's way too early (around 36 hours to DL) for us to think of ending day yet, especially cause ns can get pretty dumb so qhes aren't even bad for scum unlynch bathsomewhat there in spirit, gonna deepread some slots don't particularly like this, i mostly bc if someone dares qh then they're going to get lynched next day no matter excuses they come up with, so "they are at L-1 and therefore I'll remove pressure" is a bit meh to me |
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