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Post by quojova on Jun 26, 2021 18:06:40 GMT
yes if this is about the d4 bus I mean the reasoning that pre-lylo with 2 prs is an awkward time to bus is sound but it also applies to you who shifted to fort on that day when you could have justified a shift to another player if you wanted and because the gary wagon was dwindling it would not be weird if wallape decided to switch
Its about d5. Do you think the remaining mafia goon would be pushing the mafia roleblocker at that point.
Mafia kills are compulsivesomehow it didn't click for me until now that is quite compelling and actually probably the only way you make that push is if you are expecting it to not work out for some reason which sounds like a stretch I'll go back to check rn |
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 26, 2021 18:08:58 GMT
I dont know what you are talking about so no its not about that.
Its about d5. Do you think the remaining mafia goon would be pushing the mafia roleblocker at that point.
Mafia kills are compulsive somehow it didn't click for me until now that is quite compelling and actually probably the only way you make that push is if you are expecting it to not work out for some reason which sounds like a stretch I'll go back to check rn How the actual hell did it not click for you until now? |
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Post by wallape on Jun 26, 2021 18:10:10 GMT
What chaos said loool
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Post by quojova on Jun 26, 2021 18:11:30 GMT
somehow it didn't click for me until now that is quite compelling and actually probably the only way you make that push is if you are expecting it to not work out for some reason which sounds like a stretch I'll go back to check rn How the actual hell did it not click for you until now? I did not realize how dire the prs would make winning in that position given the clears they would generate admittedly very dumb that I missed that |
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Post by wallape on Jun 26, 2021 18:15:20 GMT
unvote gary
vote peng if peng flips scum kliff+chaos should be looked at shifts off gary here tbh with the setup of wallape mentioning early on in the day that he would vote in gary/peng a planned switch from the beginning seems plausible not sure if it's probable though it does feel like wallape gave very little resistance to a peng switch when it finally came up Sigh shouldn't have doubted my reads vote Gary this particular vote is null for me I think it's the vote you have to make given what you have stated in the previous days as either alignment ngl kinda forgot this was happening but if gary flips scum im looking at cyan/articoo and to a very much lesser extent kliff/quo. to expand : a) Gary sr'd me on the basis of cyan being scum, but voted me. Also was wishiwashi on his cyan read. Kinda like throwing stuff that he could use to buss cyan in a potentially sticky situation in the future b) articoo just throwing out a random tr and not explaining weird kinda surface level read ik but i think this should still be something we look at c) Kliff : This is entirely reliant on my buss theory so i would love to hear thoughts on it but kliff abandoning his peng sr from d1 on d2 is weird imo and it might be a buss attempt for town cred to cement him in town core in future d) Quo is still least likely out of these imo bc their thought process i find to be fairly easy to follow but they could still be scum for obvious reasons disclaimer : might not be as active as previous days until thursday - have an exam on that day and i really need to prep for it rn puts in a solid effort to expand on gary scumteams here but fort is notably absent (in contrast to chaos) it seems to me like wallape was never really on board with hanging fort have to think about which bus gameplan makes more sense - on the surface it's chaos's but I need to look at more specific d5 context which I'll get to at some point im ngl i haven't noticed fort at all... everything they say seems alright but nothing in it stands out to me and makes me go "yeah he's town" but that just might be not reading too much. I might reread later on but rn im a bit busy with exam prep so can't :x also for all of the people saying gary is town - I want people to counter the arguments put forth other than just saying "the reasoning is bad/lackluster". Can someone explain to me how a townie goes through the process of "x is probably bussing y, so let me vote y because x is townier!" Also FOS on Kliff bc his reads change from day to day and his replies to all of my qs are rather vague... his day 1 peng read disappeared day 2 and turned to vote on Gary, who's vote progression seemed artificial. Now, on D3, his Gary read seems to have disappeared... it seems like he has an agenda that he's deciding at night bc these change in reads do not seem natural to me. People who tr kliff could you explain to me why kliff is town? Aside from his analysis on cyan/peng/gary team which i liked atp, i really don't see much atp if wallape is scum he is fully on board to bus gary (probably partially due to reaction against gary on d2 due to fast wagon formation) and I think that is plausible as scum the bigger question to me is why he would choose to set up peng/gary on d2 If chaos was scum whod be partner though? Quo/Fort r possible from my pov. Chaos' frustration with quo doesn't seem like a svs interaction to me. HIGHLY unlikely at best. Chaos pushed fort yesterday. Don't think scum busses in such a bad situation I skipped a lot in d3/d4 that I didn't feel strongly on this solve feels very natural to me though he clears chaos very suddenly but I can very clearly see why Why did u think I cleared chaos right off the bat here? |
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Post by quojova on Jun 26, 2021 18:18:37 GMT
shifts off gary here tbh with the setup of wallape mentioning early on in the day that he would vote in gary/peng a planned switch from the beginning seems plausible not sure if it's probable though it does feel like wallape gave very little resistance to a peng switch when it finally came up this particular vote is null for me I think it's the vote you have to make given what you have stated in the previous days as either alignment puts in a solid effort to expand on gary scumteams here but fort is notably absent (in contrast to chaos) it seems to me like wallape was never really on board with hanging fort have to think about which bus gameplan makes more sense - on the surface it's chaos's but I need to look at more specific d5 context which I'll get to at some point atp if wallape is scum he is fully on board to bus gary (probably partially due to reaction against gary on d2 due to fast wagon formation) and I think that is plausible as scum the bigger question to me is why he would choose to set up peng/gary on d2 I skipped a lot in d3/d4 that I didn't feel strongly on this solve feels very natural to me though he clears chaos very suddenly but I can very clearly see why Why did u think I cleared chaos right off the bat here? I can see how the bus just looks unlikely regardless of it being more dire to do so than I thought initially |
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Post by wallape on Jun 26, 2021 18:22:01 GMT
Also why haven't we crossed yet
vote quo
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Post by quojova on Jun 26, 2021 18:22:46 GMT
yea atp it is clear from our povs
vote wallape
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Post by wallape on Jun 26, 2021 18:22:57 GMT
Why did u think I cleared chaos right off the bat here? I can see how the bus just looks unlikely regardless of it being more dire to do so than I thought initially I do as well but i assume u didn't fully buy the buss at that time either did u? Why didn't u try to convince anyone of it? |
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 26, 2021 18:25:52 GMT
Right finally
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Post by quojova on Jun 26, 2021 18:26:56 GMT
no hammer confirm pog
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 26, 2021 18:26:57 GMT
wallape do you buy that the idea didnt cross quo's mind until this point?
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 26, 2021 18:28:19 GMT
Also quo , are there any games on this forum you were scum , other than mononoke there isnt much to read there
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Post by quojova on Jun 26, 2021 18:28:27 GMT
I can see how the bus just looks unlikely regardless of it being more dire to do so than I thought initially I do as well but i assume u didn't fully buy the buss at that time either did u? Why didn't u try to convince anyone of it? I did not fully no but I hadn't worked it through enough to know if it was something I wouldn't buy after thinking about it more and unfortunately my engagement with the thread was very low that day |
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Post by wallape on Jun 26, 2021 18:28:34 GMT
Im not entirely sure tbh
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Post by quojova on Jun 26, 2021 18:28:49 GMT
Also quo , are there any games on this forum you were scum , other than mononoke there isnt much to read there no I've never rolled factional scum in a forum game |
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Post by wallape on Jun 26, 2021 18:30:23 GMT
Also quo , are there any games on this forum you were scum , other than mononoke there isnt much to read there no I've never rolled factional scum in a forum game Time to play the odds game because this increases ur scum chances significantly!!!!!! (This is a meme) |
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 26, 2021 18:30:48 GMT
what? You have got 1000+ posts
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Post by quojova on Jun 26, 2021 18:31:26 GMT
what? You have got 1000+ posts ye it's kinda wack |
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 26, 2021 18:33:33 GMT
Cmon wallape , help me out here. Im probably gonna make my choice based on the answer to that question.
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Post by wallape on Jun 26, 2021 18:34:18 GMT
Hey man its 12am for me what do u expect
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Post by wallape on Jun 26, 2021 18:39:14 GMT
gun to head i guess I might say he probably didn't because honestly I expected him to remember ngl
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Post by quojova on Jun 26, 2021 18:39:25 GMT
do you think you will hammer in the next couple hours
if no I'll probably delay doing much more
if yes I'll do what I can now
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Post by wallape on Jun 26, 2021 18:41:20 GMT
if u hammer rn I will sleep and wake up at 10am tomorrow
If u hammer tmrw I will sleep and wake up at 6am
Note : I want to actually sleep after waking up early for the past week+
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 26, 2021 18:42:04 GMT
Ill vote in a while. Anything you guys say would be pretty helpful at this point. wallape , do you think there is anything that might have prevented scum!quo from winning on if he didnt vote Gary on d3. quojova , thoughts on kliff kill , do you see wallape doing that? How so |
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