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Post by quojova on Jun 26, 2021 18:42:38 GMT
what do I even get out of pretending to miss it and then pretending to realize as soon as chaos pointed me towards d5 and the dead roleblocker
what's the rationale there
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 26, 2021 18:45:23 GMT
what do I even get out of pretending to miss it and then pretending to realize as soon as chaos pointed me towards d5 and the dead roleblocker what's the rationale there
I mean , is it not obvious why I wanted the answer to that question? |
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Post by wallape on Jun 26, 2021 18:46:23 GMT
Probably the fact that he defended gary pretty hard there would at some point result in a vote on him if me/you continued tunneling gary there. It could've lead to a possible loss if some lower activity slots got convinced that gary vote was optimal. I think it's more likely that the buss was more of a safety measure to win rather than something that he was forced to do imo. He would def be questioned if he lead like 3 votes on town in a row
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Post by quojova on Jun 26, 2021 18:47:03 GMT
Ill vote in a while. Anything you guys say would be pretty helpful at this point. wallape , do you think there is anything that might have prevented scum!quo from winning on if he didnt vote Gary on d3. quojova , thoughts on kliff kill , do you see wallape doing that? How so I've been somewhat intentionally ignoring talking nk meta up until this point because the n1 kill just made no sense to me the kliff kill also does not make much sense to me but it make some sense as a pure pr read possibly because the reactions to sky flipping eod at twilight felt like it might have spewed some people as non-pr (kind of articu and me), was a thought I had as it was happening |
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 26, 2021 18:49:57 GMT
Probably the fact that he defended gary pretty hard there would at some point result in a vote on him if me/you continued tunneling gary there. It could've lead to a possible loss if some lower activity slots got convinced that gary vote was optimal. I think it's more likely that the buss was more of a safety measure to win rather than something that he was forced to do imo. He would def be questioned if he lead like 3 votes on town in a row |
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Post by wallape on Jun 26, 2021 18:50:14 GMT
Ill vote in a while. Anything you guys say would be pretty helpful at this point. wallape , do you think there is anything that might have prevented scum!quo from winning on if he didnt vote Gary on d3. quojova , thoughts on kliff kill , do you see wallape doing that? How so I've been somewhat intentionally ignoring talking nk meta up until this point because the n1 kill just made no sense to me the kliff kill also does not make much sense to me but it make some sense as a pure pr read possibly because the reactions to sky flipping eod at twilight felt like it might have spewed some people as non-pr (kind of articu and me), was a thought I had as it was happening Which quotes though I just went through it and nothing felt like non-pr spew to me. |
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 26, 2021 18:51:37 GMT
Ill vote in a while. Anything you guys say would be pretty helpful at this point. wallape , do you think there is anything that might have prevented scum!quo from winning on if he didnt vote Gary on d3. quojova , thoughts on kliff kill , do you see wallape doing that? How so I've been somewhat intentionally ignoring talking nk meta up until this point because the n1 kill just made no sense to me the kliff kill also does not make much sense to me but it make some sense as a pure pr read possibly because the reactions to sky flipping eod at twilight felt like it might have spewed some people as non-pr (kind of articu and me), was a thought I had as it was happening |
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Post by quojova on Jun 26, 2021 18:59:15 GMT
I've been somewhat intentionally ignoring talking nk meta up until this point because the n1 kill just made no sense to me the kliff kill also does not make much sense to me but it make some sense as a pure pr read possibly because the reactions to sky flipping eod at twilight felt like it might have spewed some people as non-pr (kind of articu and me), was a thought I had as it was happening Which quotes though I just went through it and nothing felt like non-pr spew to me. admittedly now that I'm looking at it again it's very surface level and probably that eod was not huge factor in the nightkill but kinda just the way that articu was okay talking about claims where some players were not yea this is super weak now that I walk it through |
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 26, 2021 19:02:06 GMT
Probably the fact that he defended gary pretty hard there would at some point result in a vote on him if me/you continued tunneling gary there. It could've lead to a possible loss if some lower activity slots got convinced that gary vote was optimal. I think it's more likely that the buss was more of a safety measure to win rather than something that he was forced to do imo. He would def be questioned if he lead like 3 votes on town in a row It was 6 town vs 3 scum. If scum!Quo had shifted his vote to vert and the kill had gone through that night , there would be 4 town remaining. All the scum team would need to win is one town member lead astray. And we had sky and arti having quo as hard tr and sheeping him. And sky didnt think Gary was scum even on d3. Do you think it would have been hard for scum!quo to convince sky to vote someone other than Gary. Like , literally anyone else
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Post by wallape on Jun 26, 2021 19:03:02 GMT
Which quotes though I just went through it and nothing felt like non-pr spew to me. admittedly now that I'm looking at it again it's very surface level and probably that eod was not huge factor in the nightkill but kinda just the way that articu was okay talking about claims where some players were not yea this is super weak now that I walk it through based on this post confident he just posted this hoping that chaos would take his word for it |
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Post by quojova on Jun 26, 2021 19:03:53 GMT
I've been somewhat intentionally ignoring talking nk meta up until this point because the n1 kill just made no sense to me the kliff kill also does not make much sense to me but it make some sense as a pure pr read possibly because the reactions to sky flipping eod at twilight felt like it might have spewed some people as non-pr (kind of articu and me), was a thought I had as it was happening in terms of who was scum from the nightkill itself? no one in particular because I'd also assume scum had some pr read on them which can come from basically anyone I have no idea who I would vote in the end without having gone through that hypothetical phase but my most likely scumteam going into it would probably be kliff + chaos/fort |
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Post by quojova on Jun 26, 2021 19:05:30 GMT
admittedly now that I'm looking at it again it's very surface level and probably that eod was not huge factor in the nightkill but kinda just the way that articu was okay talking about claims where some players were not yea this is super weak now that I walk it through based on this post confident he just posted this hoping that chaos would take his word for it I did say "possibly" there's no way I would expect chaos to not check it if he was going to put any stock into it |
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Post by wallape on Jun 26, 2021 19:06:10 GMT
Hmmm this was prelylo was it not, What was the no of town vs scum at that point , does someone remember? It was 6 town vs 3 scum. If scum!Quo had shifted his vote to vert and the kill had gone through that night , there would be 4 town remaining. All the scum team would need to win is one town member lead astray. And we had sky and arti having quo as hard tr and sheeping him. And sky didnt think Gary was scum even on d3. Do you think it would have been hard for scum!quo to convince sky to vote someone other than Gary. Like , literally anyone else
shifting in between nearly anyone out of gary/sky/fort would've been a very bad look for quo after how much time he spent analyzing the three. I'm very sure sky would've caught onto it especially if he jumped on vertigo there. Fort was in a much better situation than gary so gary is the obvious vote since sky isn't going to gain traction. |
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 26, 2021 19:06:52 GMT
What if arti was the kill that night? Who would you have thought was scum on D6 , if the pool was me , wallape , fort and kliff in terms of who was scum from the nightkill itself? no one in particular because I'd also assume scum had some pr read on them which can come from basically anyone I have no idea who I would vote in the end without having gone through that hypothetical phase but my most likely scumteam going into it would probably be kliff + chaos/fort Exactly , now you see why I have a hard time accepting scum!wallape would want a kliff kill there. Victory was so straightforward for the scum!wallape if kliff wasnt killed. He could easily bring up his 'gameplan' and vote one of me/kliff . No need to bus his partner there |
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Post by quojova on Jun 26, 2021 19:08:20 GMT
It was 6 town vs 3 scum. If scum!Quo had shifted his vote to vert and the kill had gone through that night , there would be 4 town remaining. All the scum team would need to win is one town member lead astray. And we had sky and arti having quo as hard tr and sheeping him. And sky didnt think Gary was scum even on d3. Do you think it would have been hard for scum!quo to convince sky to vote someone other than Gary. Like , literally anyone else
shifting in between nearly anyone out of gary/sky/fort would've been a very bad look for quo after how much time he spent analyzing the three. I'm very sure sky would've caught onto it especially if he jumped on vertigo there. Fort was in a much better situation than gary so gary is the obvious vote since sky isn't going to gain traction. the question there is like why I would even want to spend that much time advocating for a gary/sky/fort team I could have easily not done that |
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 26, 2021 19:08:39 GMT
It was 6 town vs 3 scum. If scum!Quo had shifted his vote to vert and the kill had gone through that night , there would be 4 town remaining. All the scum team would need to win is one town member lead astray. And we had sky and arti having quo as hard tr and sheeping him. And sky didnt think Gary was scum even on d3. Do you think it would have been hard for scum!quo to convince sky to vote someone other than Gary. Like , literally anyone else
shifting in between nearly anyone out of gary/sky/fort would've been a very bad look for quo after how much time he spent analyzing the three. I'm very sure sky would've caught onto it especially if he jumped on vertigo there. Fort was in a much better situation than gary so gary is the obvious vote since sky isn't going to gain traction. |
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Post by wallape on Jun 26, 2021 19:10:26 GMT
shifting in between nearly anyone out of gary/sky/fort would've been a very bad look for quo after how much time he spent analyzing the three. I'm very sure sky would've caught onto it especially if he jumped on vertigo there. Fort was in a much better situation than gary so gary is the obvious vote since sky isn't going to gain traction. The progression would make no sense and sky would probably get some scum pings from quo there |
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 26, 2021 19:12:00 GMT
what do I even get out of pretending to miss it and then pretending to realize as soon as chaos pointed me towards d5 and the dead roleblocker what's the rationale there
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Post by wallape on Jun 26, 2021 19:13:48 GMT
shifting in between nearly anyone out of gary/sky/fort would've been a very bad look for quo after how much time he spent analyzing the three. I'm very sure sky would've caught onto it especially if he jumped on vertigo there. Fort was in a much better situation than gary so gary is the obvious vote since sky isn't going to gain traction. the question there is like why I would even want to spend that much time advocating for a gary/sky/fort team I could have easily not done that idr exactly but wasn't ur fort vote relying sky flipping scum? It makes sense to want to buss 1 partner and then town the other based on someone else's flip I also really need to sleep rn it's almost 1am now zzz parents r getting parents-y |
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Post by wallape on Jun 26, 2021 19:14:39 GMT
@chaos do I need to wake up at 6am y/n
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Post by quojova on Jun 26, 2021 19:14:47 GMT
what do I even get out of pretending to miss it and then pretending to realize as soon as chaos pointed me towards d5 and the dead roleblocker what's the rationale there
I vaguely remember that yea thought it was an exaggeration lol I'm still thinking on why wallape killed fort because it does not make a lot of sense to me rn beyond like a pr read and maybe giving himself cred?? but that sounds off |
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Post by quojova on Jun 26, 2021 19:15:50 GMT
man I have no idea wallape's iso is all very natural to me I buy the gary push and like all of his posts - might quote a bunch at some point but I'm also struggling to see the world where chaos hard busses two partners rn I feel like if wallape is scum he played so well as scum and chaos played so precisely as town that the chaos!scum conclusion is more natural but it's so hazy I mean look at this . Even after all that has transpired , the sky lynch , the fort lynch , my anger , this is supposed to be his thought process:
"Could it be possible that Chaos was looking at the game in a way that I had missed , and ended up with correct reads when I was wrong ?"
"No , Chaos reads were correct so he must be scum. Doesnt matter that if Fort lynch had gone through on d4 it would be mathematically impossible for the solo scum to win in this theme where JK can start clearing people left and right. Nope , its more likely that chaos stupidly bussed both his partners rather than having better reads than me"
oh wow you literally walked it through here clearly I was not reading very carefully |
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 26, 2021 19:18:04 GMT
@chaos do I need to wake up at 6am y/n Nah bro , here we go: Vote wallape.
Whoever was scum amongst you , well played tbh. This was not an easy choice tbh , and I am not entirely sure if Im right or wrong. Hardcore wish we voted fort on d5 , but oh well |
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Post by quojova on Jun 26, 2021 19:18:36 GMT
you were right
give me least valuable player lmao
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Post by wallape on Jun 26, 2021 19:18:41 GMT
ggs
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