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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 4, 2022 0:59:34 GMT
What does "reads have no merit" mean? What are you trying to say there? Reads are kind of the backbone of early game and help build a structure for how the rest of the game is played and who people read and lean toward. Saying they have no merit after discussing not only your own reads but even voting someone on day 1 after switching is either hypocritical or just plain dumb, and it is certainly scummy. I agree with the initial line of reasoning that you might not be good when people are pressuring you, which is fair, but now that people are actually voting you, you're just not making sense If you saw my reply to mem's reply to that, you would know that I meant mem was making reads that had no merit. Unfortunately, I'm not allowed to edit my posts to prevent the confusion. saying my reads have no merit is still wrong tho. my reads have plenty affects on the game, including trs and srs from different people. i also find it a bit odd that when im sring you my reads have no merit. i also have plenty of other reads that ive posted before, so ur kinda saying that my reads just arent that good or arent logical when i have posted plenty of reasons. also you did not make it clear that it was only my reads that "had no merit" |
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 4, 2022 1:01:44 GMT
anyway tr on zach now, they came in and it actually seems like they read the past 10 pages of what weve been posting, theyre questioning previous stuff, and have quoted some pretty early posts. they also seem to have made a read on just about everybody, and already posted quite a bit of info in ~4 posts.
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Post by kliff on Jul 4, 2022 2:08:18 GMT
I had some posts selected and they all disappeared , that sucks Anyway let me see what I had in mind that one post of PacnCheese gave off bad vibes, Erry and Cyan are likely not in a team , and I rather liked Erry's take on Sylv vote pacncheeseohsnapa sounds like a nice guy These two post giving me scum vibes. Vote chaostrodonHere a Hot take of mine: pacncheese probably fits the Archetype of a typical town with unpopular opinions / prone to Mis-voting. What are your thoughts on it. |
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Post by Alexander489 on Jul 4, 2022 2:12:40 GMT
Votecount 1.0
If you have any issues with or see any errors with the votecount, let me know and I will fix it.
If the day were to end now, Sylveon & Rando would be voted out.
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Post by cyan on Jul 4, 2022 2:18:26 GMT
there have been 7 people who have posted till now and given some sort of read, I feel like the best call would be to trust one another this 7 group: snapa, me, sylv, spore, cyan, memory, erry. All I can see in this is that they have either tr'ed or sr'ed each other ruling out the fact that this cannot contain a whole 4 mafia scum faction. With clearing others from this point on, we should assume us a town and pursue the other 9 group as a potential full or half of scum faction. With that we would be able to get a scum for sure and then we can align our reads according to their logs and get the scum in our group if there is one. Dude what? Saying this not only implies that there has been nothing of merit going on and that all discussion going on has been pointless, but that you REALLY wanna make allies with people instead of naturally doing so.
thank fuck someone put it in words
There has, in fact been so much of substance going on that there can be reasonable reads made. For example, the way the cyan and snap discussion ended made it seem that they're of the same alignment (or at least they're reading each other as their own alignment). Despite going back and forth for a while, they came to the same conclusion and agreed about what they were disputing over. If they thought they weren't of the same alignment, whatever they were arguing over would still be going on now and be going nowhere. Trying to discourage that from happens seems, at the very least weird, and at the very most scummy. What was your thought process behind this?
(idk how to quote multiple things at a time so bear with me) settings drop-down menu on top-left of a post gives you the option to "select post". select a bunch of posts and hit the reply button at the end of the thread, and you're good to go
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Jul 3, 2022 0:36:38 GMT -4 pacncheese said:
all I am proposing is that there is a chance that none of us are scum and this progresses into nothing but sprouting doubts b/w others, making the game difficult and lacking in trust
More of what are you even trying to say? Like huh???
Jul 3, 2022 0:39:29 GMT -4 pacncheese said:
I feel like we ought to face the fact that none of the active ones yet have formed any kind alignment for a potential scum team or duo or w/e.
How can this even be a valid conclusion at this point in the game? so many people have been talking and disagreeing with each other and most importantly, YOU, and you haven't done anything to address it. I'm not susing you yet, I just want to know why you would say this and the other two posts?
Sorry if I'm wasting my time by focusing on what was ultimately supposed to be a poorly done attempt at filler.
responses in cyanbut what i'm more interested in saying is this: pac bad i still sr them etc. i'm going to go against zach here and say that pac's previous few lines reek of this "guys let's get along" vibe that i doubt a townie would ever adopt. the game revolves around scumhunting ffs by talking about the possibility that the people who had already posted at the time of pac's post were all town, i can only assume pac was trying to get them to shift attention off themselves. i can only theorize that pac is trying to defuse one or two interactions in particular, but went about it in a way that feels more scum-AI than town-AI. and also pac never said anything of importance in the meanwhile. i'm not the type to delve into the "why would they say X" stuff for posts like that, but i respect you for it. Im caught up and ngl it was a little painful trying to read all that. Very well put post. what do you think of the people who are seemly trying to get Sylveon & Rando voted. Do you think they are misguided town? and maybe a opportunity to jump on a favorable read. Did I miss something here. I thought you were pushing for player meta? Interesting Vote, and choice of words "manipulating"I like this Entry post. notice that if i trim out the post content from just about all of what kliff quoted, the comments they made look like textbook communication. sl on kliff. i should not be able to understand whatever points you are making without the context you're placing them behind. you have not solved the puzzle. If you saw my reply to mem's reply to that, you would know that I meant mem was making reads that had no merit. Unfortunately, I'm not allowed to edit my posts to prevent the confusion. Yeah I realized that you clarified this after I posted. My apologies for asking it again.
I am curious about something though. After you were suspected to just be an anxious town member, you continued to respond to people and talk when you could've just taken the town read and ran with it. You only said things to incriminate yourself more and now you have people scum reading you. Your suspicion of and responding to mem is what I'm referring to. What reads are you referring to when you say his reads have no merit? If anything it seems like he was just pointing out that shadow's reads have no merit (which I kind of agree with he just came outta nowhere and posted some stuff after reading the thread) instead of trying to make baseless reads of his own. Am I missing something?
Also I know you already replied to this, but why try and attempt to defuse a situation that didn't need defusing at all? That seemed weird.
i can't tell if zach is being genuine here or trying to sarcastically suggest that sylveon & rando is town. "After you were suspected to just be an anxious town member, you continued to respond to people and talk when you could've just taken the town read and ran with it." you're probably not scum trying to coach a partner, but this line looks like scum trying to coach a partner. either that or it's trying to imply without stating that sylv is doing something no scum would do. I'm gonna retreive the original message with the edits from cyan. It'll have to be in a separate post, however. Yes it was an rvs when i read this my blood immediately started boiling but thank you for reconsidering down the line now go make a vote i can respect |
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Post by Sylveon & Rando on Jul 4, 2022 2:20:07 GMT
Oh, I'm an idiot. That isn't my main point however, I'm worried about what the "lapses in logic" are.
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Post by cyan on Jul 4, 2022 2:25:32 GMT
should probably put it out here that i am no longer confident to any extent that sylveon & rando is scum because the slapdash play is leaning slightly into town panic behaviour. still, we can get something out of this Unvote pacncheese[\b]
Vote Sylveon & Rando[\b]Why vote sylveon when you admit that their play is leaning toward town panic over being scummy. Do you think that erry's posts are just a ploy for scum to try and cover their own ass by sylveon just going around and saying dumb stuff. If that's the case, why would you call out angel for voting erry when a vote for erry day 1 (under that logic) would get us somewhere. I respected your aggressiveness as it actually got the game somewhere, but this confuses me.
i'm not approaching this game by looking for optimal moves. i'm approaching this game by looking for player motives. voting sylv was part of my pressure game, and while it did not give me any info from sylv, it does give me some insight about you (i.e. that you're either sylveon's partner or both of you are town). ftr the level of depth behind zach's posts show intent to solve, but that one interaction with sylv just rubs me off as wrong they're also a primary wagon so we've got a lot of time to work with things before i make any final decisions I had some posts selected and they all disappeared , that sucks Anyway let me see what I had in mind that one post of PacnCheese gave off bad vibes, Erry and Cyan are likely not in a team , and I rather liked Erry's take on Sylv vote pacncheeseohsnapa sounds like a nice guy These two post giving me scum vibes. Vote chaostrodonHere a Hot take of mine: pacncheese probably fits the Archetype of a typical town with unpopular opinions / prone to Mis-voting. What are your thoughts on it. i'm sorry, but pac's "unpopular opinions" have all been stuff like game advice, mass buddying and i feel like an aversion to playing the game in general. if pac had their head in their ass pushing someone then maybe this take would've made sense. good call on chaos though |
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Post by Sylveon & Rando on Jul 4, 2022 2:31:28 GMT
Btw why is there a wagon on me rn? Pac has been acting more suspicious, and yet he has only one vote! Meanwhile, all I did is make a couple of reads that people don't like and I have four votes?
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Post by Sylveon & Rando on Jul 4, 2022 2:34:48 GMT
Gonna check past pages for messages. BRB.
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Post by kliff on Jul 4, 2022 2:39:43 GMT
Full Quote: Im caught up and ngl it was a little painful trying to read all that. Very well put post. what do you think of the people who are seemly trying to get Sylveon & Rando voted. Do you think they are misguided town? and maybe a opportunity to jump on a favorable read. "and maybe a opportunity to jump on a favorable read."
1. Fix your grammar. It's "an opportunity", not " a opportunity".
2. What are you talking about? It's the pac n cheese thing all over again! Is this supposed to be framed as a question?Did I miss something here. I thought you were pushing for player meta? Yes, you missed something here. Pac n cheese is trying to say that none of the people who participated in discussion early are scum. IMO this is a shitty prediction, but he isn't pushing for pmeta. Also, you keep asking questions, but not putting question marks! You did this in your response to erry too!!! Interesting Vote, and choice of words "manipulating"
I agree, this is a very interesting vote. Also, assuming mem is manipulating snapa is dumb.I like this Entry post. Well I don't! It is flawed for many reasons:
1. The statement that all the early pages are filler and shitposting. This might be true for some of us, but reads were still being made! (Most by snapa)
2. The guilty until proven innocent mentality. Town almost always has the majority, so it's better to use the innocent until proven guilty mindset. (The reason I acted like cyan was scum when I responded is because I try to play devil's advocate sometimes, in order to prove that the claim is still absolute shit)
3. Voting right after saying everyone is a nullread. This feels like rvs, and we're well past that stage. They aren't even voting the person they think is suspicious!!
This is only scratching the surface of the problems with angel's first message, btw. There's a lot of other things to keep in mind. It's disingenuous to say it's a good entry post.Well, comments are in purple! Anyways, me voting mem was more emotion based, so I'm switching to angel. Their entry post is shit, and it's their only message so far. Vote: Angel Also, kliff, please read more. Half of the posts that you listed have context that you didn't take into account. Your comments are also extremely simple, which means they don't have much merit. And think before you say a post riddled with mistakes is a "good entry post" 2. What are you talking about? It's the pac n cheese thing all over again! Is this supposed to be framed as a question?
From Skimming through the game I think the idea of Sylveon & Rando being scum is a popular subject with regards to the amount of player that have acknowledge it. So I was asking Erry since they think Sylveon & Rando is a bad town, what does it say about the people who are trying to vote them off. Well I don't! It is flawed for many reasons:
1. The statement that all the early pages are filler and shitposting. This might be true for some of us, but reads were still being made! (Most by snapa)
2. The guilty until proven innocent mentality. Town almost always has the majority, so it's better to use the innocent until proven guilty mindset. (The reason I acted like cyan was scum when I responded is because I try to play devil's advocate sometimes, in order to prove that the claim is still absolute shit)
3. Voting right after saying everyone is a nullread. This feels like rvs, and we're well past that stage. They aren't even voting the person they think is suspicious!!
This is only scratching the surface of the problems with angel's first message, btw. There's a lot of other things to keep in mind. It's disingenuous to say it's a good entry post. As for Angel Post, I don't necessarily think all it makes sense to me, but I do think their inputs seemed town mindset. I didn't like the post because it was competent, I like it because it gave a town vibe. |
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Post by erry on Jul 4, 2022 2:53:34 GMT
Yeh so guys My power just went out and idk when I will be back on, just letting you guys know so you can give me chance to explain if any reads get formed on me. Hey, quick question, if your power was out then how where you still sending messages, including this one, after the fact? Just something I was curious about |
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Post by erry on Jul 4, 2022 2:54:02 GMT
Also gm everyone, gimme a bit to read through and analyze everything from today
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Post by zachattack01 on Jul 4, 2022 3:01:42 GMT
Dude what? Saying this not only implies that there has been nothing of merit going on and that all discussion going on has been pointless, but that you REALLY wanna make allies with people instead of naturally doing so.
thank fuck someone put it in words
There has, in fact been so much of substance going on that there can be reasonable reads made. For example, the way the cyan and snap discussion ended made it seem that they're of the same alignment (or at least they're reading each other as their own alignment). Despite going back and forth for a while, they came to the same conclusion and agreed about what they were disputing over. If they thought they weren't of the same alignment, whatever they were arguing over would still be going on now and be going nowhere. Trying to discourage that from happens seems, at the very least weird, and at the very most scummy. What was your thought process behind this?
(idk how to quote multiple things at a time so bear with me) settings drop-down menu on top-left of a post gives you the option to "select post". select a bunch of posts and hit the reply button at the end of the thread, and you're good to go
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Jul 3, 2022 0:36:38 GMT -4 pacncheese said:
all I am proposing is that there is a chance that none of us are scum and this progresses into nothing but sprouting doubts b/w others, making the game difficult and lacking in trust
More of what are you even trying to say? Like huh???
Jul 3, 2022 0:39:29 GMT -4 pacncheese said:
I feel like we ought to face the fact that none of the active ones yet have formed any kind alignment for a potential scum team or duo or w/e.
How can this even be a valid conclusion at this point in the game? so many people have been talking and disagreeing with each other and most importantly, YOU, and you haven't done anything to address it. I'm not susing you yet, I just want to know why you would say this and the other two posts?
Sorry if I'm wasting my time by focusing on what was ultimately supposed to be a poorly done attempt at filler.
responses in cyanbut what i'm more interested in saying is this: pac bad i still sr them etc. i'm going to go against zach here and say that pac's previous few lines reek of this "guys let's get along" vibe that i doubt a townie would ever adopt. the game revolves around scumhunting ffs by talking about the possibility that the people who had already posted at the time of pac's post were all town, i can only assume pac was trying to get them to shift attention off themselves. i can only theorize that pac is trying to defuse one or two interactions in particular, but went about it in a way that feels more scum-AI than town-AI. and also pac never said anything of importance in the meanwhile. i'm not the type to delve into the "why would they say X" stuff for posts like that, but i respect you for it. My initial reaction to a lot of what pac was saying was just confusion because it seemed so out of place in a forum filled with genuine substance to go off of. But i think what you're saying is a valid possibility, and I respect you not being the type into the "why would they say X" mindset. Like i said, I'm new to forum mafia, so I'm still trying to figure out what routes to take when approaching this game and people. I'll probably soon find out that this avenue of thinking can sometimes be fruitless.
Yeah I realized that you clarified this after I posted. My apologies for asking it again. I am curious about something though. After you were suspected to just be an anxious town member, you continued to respond to people and talk when you could've just taken the town read and ran with it. You only said things to incriminate yourself more and now you have people scum reading you. Your suspicion of and responding to mem is what I'm referring to. What reads are you referring to when you say his reads have no merit? If anything it seems like he was just pointing out that shadow's reads have no merit (which I kind of agree with he just came outta nowhere and posted some stuff after reading the thread) instead of trying to make baseless reads of his own. Am I missing something?
Also I know you already replied to this, but why try and attempt to defuse a situation that didn't need defusing at all? That seemed weird.
i can't tell if zach is being genuine here or trying to sarcastically suggest that sylveon & rando is town. "After you were suspected to just be an anxious town member, you continued to respond to people and talk when you could've just taken the town read and ran with it." you're probably not scum trying to coach a partner, but this line looks like scum trying to coach a partner. either that or it's trying to imply without stating that sylv is doing something no scum would do. While that wasn't my intention, I can now see how that can be concluded from it. I was trying to be genuine. I think I was just conflicted and having a hard time concluding what sylv's alignment is because of their confusing and contradictory actions. I wanted to think they were just anxious town from erry's post, sylv's response to the post, and the timing of their reads. I wanted to think they were scum for the substance of their reads and some really poor responses to people pressuring them. See my dilemma?
That was until I went back to read some things. I'm not a big fan of their interaction with mmib. They claimed that mmib's reads have no merit when they never went in depth about it at all. This post was mainly trying to get some clarity on that, which was never provided. Sus. They've also been lowkey parroting a lot of what you've said in, I'm assuming, an effort to try and give off more town vibes after erry's post. Also they're trying really hard to deflect on pac rn. Interesting timing especially after I not only went in depth on that but pressured sylv with this post give answers. Scummy.
Finally, after erry's post, if sylv were scum, I'd expect them to then lay low from there after being cleared by someone. I originally wouldn't expect a scum to do what sylv then proceeded to do up until I started posting. Now I've kinda moved on from that thought process after going back and reading some more and coming to the conclusion stated above.
I also think you've town from the way your responded to this and my other post. Gives similar vibes to the way you interacted with snap, and I've expressed that I think you two are aligned.TL: cyan
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Post by kliff on Jul 4, 2022 3:03:07 GMT
These two post giving me scum vibes. Vote chaostrodonHere a Hot take of mine: pacncheese probably fits the Archetype of a typical town with unpopular opinions / prone to Mis-voting. What are your thoughts on it. i'm sorry, but pac's "unpopular opinions" have all been stuff like game advice, mass buddying and i feel like an aversion to playing the game in general. if pac had their head in their ass pushing someone then maybe this take would've made sense. good call on chaos though I agree for the most part, I don't really seem them as scum that is actively trying to be "carried". Though its too early to tell. |
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Post by zachattack01 on Jul 4, 2022 3:08:23 GMT
Why vote sylveon when you admit that their play is leaning toward town panic over being scummy. Do you think that erry's posts are just a ploy for scum to try and cover their own ass by sylveon just going around and saying dumb stuff. If that's the case, why would you call out angel for voting erry when a vote for erry day 1 (under that logic) would get us somewhere. I respected your aggressiveness as it actually got the game somewhere, but this confuses me.
i'm not approaching this game by looking for optimal moves. i'm approaching this game by looking for player motives. voting sylv was part of my pressure game, and while it did not give me any info from sylv, it does give me some insight about you (i.e. that you're either sylveon's partner or both of you are town). ftr the level of depth behind zach's posts show intent to solve, but that one interaction with sylv just rubs me off as wrong they're also a primary wagon so we've got a lot of time to work with things before i make any final decisions<abbr> I get how that interaction can be interpreted poorly. Hopefully my other response kinda clear that up. I respect voting sylv as a means of pressure. Players like this crack under pressure, and I think they've already started to do so a little bit. Since I'm unfamiliar to forum mafia, I didn't think that placing a vote on someone could be a means of pressure, only a means stating your intent to vote them out. I've admittedly been kinda confused as to why so many votes have gone around day 1, but after reading this, it makes more sense. I'll keep that in mind and try to be more aware of strategies that I've never seen before.</abbr><abbr> I also think there are two wagons right now. Sylv and pac, and we need to look into them more. I'm still waiting for pac to get to what I said about them.</abbr> |
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Post by zachattack01 on Jul 4, 2022 3:09:53 GMT
Some of the logic used in that post is kinda dead now too since angel admitted to rvsing erry
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Post by kliff on Jul 4, 2022 3:13:33 GMT
Well, comments are in purple! Anyways, me voting mem was more emotion based, so I'm switching to angel. Their entry post is shit, and it's their only message so far. Vote: Angel Also, kliff, please read more. Half of the posts that you listed have context that you didn't take into account. Your comments are also extremely simple, which means they don't have much merit. And think before you say a post riddled with mistakes is a "good entry post" firstly, fk u it wasnt shit post secondly, voting me cause it was my only message? pac and erry havent spoken much and have contributed far less imo. Sounds to me like ur looking for an easy vote by capitalizing on the momentom of people dissing my post lol. erry was an rvs but considering now voting sylv... will have to read more before commiting however. Ok I think this was a over-reaction and I don't like it. Something doesn't seem right here |
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Post by zachattack01 on Jul 4, 2022 3:32:19 GMT
firstly, fk u it wasnt shit post secondly, voting me cause it was my only message? pac and erry havent spoken much and have contributed far less imo. Sounds to me like ur looking for an easy vote by capitalizing on the momentom of people dissing my post lol. erry was an rvs but considering now voting sylv... will have to read more before commiting however. Ok I think this was a over-reaction and I don't like it. Something doesn't seem right here Kliff is right. I really don't like you're deflection to pac and erry here. Like we've discussed earlier, amount of contribution thus far really isn't that indicative of alignment, yet you're using it as the crux of your defense against sylv. Sus. I know cyan already said this, but the interactions between angel and sylv right now make it really seem that they are of different alignments, which makes things even more difficult. |
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Post by Sylveon & Rando on Jul 4, 2022 3:43:55 GMT
there have been 7 people who have posted till now and given some sort of read, I feel like the best call would be to trust one another this 7 group: snapa, me, sylv, spore, cyan, memory, erry. All I can see in this is that they have either tr'ed or sr'ed each other ruling out the fact that this cannot contain a whole 4 mafia scum faction. With clearing others from this point on, we should assume us a town and pursue the other 9 group as a potential full or half of scum faction. With that we would be able to get a scum for sure and then we can align our reads according to their logs and get the scum in our group if there is one. I mean, this is really dumb reasoning. 1: Us all reading eachother doesn't mean that there's not more than one of the first seven posters that are scum. People can throw eachother under the bus. 2: Erry hadn't made any reads at the time of pac's post. Even if the "we all are reading eachother so there can't be multiple scum!" claim had merit, Erry didn't contribute much. 3: How can we read people who haven't talked in chat? And even if all of scum was one of those nine people who hadn't talked yet, that's still more than 50% town. Not really "getting a scum for sure" dude anyone could be sleeping rn, the others arent lurking like in a ps game,they are legit no here rn this makes no sense at all ik but we can approach those as a team or w/e. I feel the odds favour the town No? I mean the odds favor the town being any person in question. The teams angle is dumb because it's not very likely most of scum wouldn't talk soon. They would likely try to talk more to win the favor of the town, and by talking earlier, you're talking more. The teams thing is also prob just you backpedaling because you made a shitty "suggestion". Anyways, yeah this seems like scum or bad town, so I'm voting this. Vote: pac n cheeseHe's the best vote we have. And before yall jump on my back for bandwagoning, how about yall make an actual wagon? |
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Post by zachattack01 on Jul 4, 2022 3:52:12 GMT
there have been 7 people who have posted till now and given some sort of read, I feel like the best call would be to trust one another this 7 group: snapa, me, sylv, spore, cyan, memory, erry. All I can see in this is that they have either tr'ed or sr'ed each other ruling out the fact that this cannot contain a whole 4 mafia scum faction. With clearing others from this point on, we should assume us a town and pursue the other 9 group as a potential full or half of scum faction. With that we would be able to get a scum for sure and then we can align our reads according to their logs and get the scum in our group if there is one. I mean, this is really dumb reasoning. 1: Us all reading eachother doesn't mean that there's not more than one of the first seven posters that are scum. People can throw eachother under the bus. 2: Erry hadn't made any reads at the time of pac's post. Even if the "we all are reading eachother so there can't be multiple scum!" claim had merit, Erry didn't contribute much. 3: How can we read people who haven't talked in chat? And even if all of scum was one of those nine people who hadn't talked yet, that's still more than 50% town. Not really "getting a scum for sure" ik but we can approach those as a team or w/e. I feel the odds favour the town No? I mean the odds favor the town being any person in question. The teams angle is dumb because it's not very likely most of scum wouldn't talk soon. They would likely try to talk more to win the favor of the town, and by talking earlier, you're talking more. The teams thing is also prob just you backpedaling because you made a shitty "suggestion". Anyways, yeah this seems like scum or bad town, so I'm voting this. Vote: pac n cheeseHe's the best vote we have. And before yall jump on my back for bandwagoning, how about yall make an actual wagon? Most of this post is just reiterating a lot of what I said about my suspicions of pac. And I will absolutely jump on you for bandwagoning when you are in fact the fourth person on this wagon. It was created by chaos and I when chaos voted for pac then asked for me to clarify on why I sussed then, then cyan got on it too when they responded to my message, and they took a different approach than me and ultimately gave me more insight on what their motives could be. You have not. Open your eyes and look around. You're the fourth person on the wagon you think you're creating. |
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Post by Sylveon & Rando on Jul 4, 2022 4:03:08 GMT
I mean, this is really dumb reasoning. 1: Us all reading eachother doesn't mean that there's not more than one of the first seven posters that are scum. People can throw eachother under the bus. 2: Erry hadn't made any reads at the time of pac's post. Even if the "we all are reading eachother so there can't be multiple scum!" claim had merit, Erry didn't contribute much. 3: How can we read people who haven't talked in chat? And even if all of scum was one of those nine people who hadn't talked yet, that's still more than 50% town. Not really "getting a scum for sure" No? I mean the odds favor the town being any person in question. The teams angle is dumb because it's not very likely most of scum wouldn't talk soon. They would likely try to talk more to win the favor of the town, and by talking earlier, you're talking more. The teams thing is also prob just you backpedaling because you made a shitty "suggestion". Anyways, yeah this seems like scum or bad town, so I'm voting this. Vote: pac n cheeseHe's the best vote we have. And before yall jump on my back for bandwagoning, how about yall make an actual wagon? Most of this post is just reiterating a lot of what I said about my suspicions of pac. And I will absolutely jump on you for bandwagoning when you are in fact the fourth person on this wagon. It was created by chaos and I when chaos voted for pac then asked for me to clarify on why I sussed then, then cyan got on it too when they responded to my message, and they took a different approach than me and ultimately gave me more insight on what their motives could be. You have not. Open your eyes and look around. You're the fourth person on the wagon you think you're creating. I'm the third person on this wagon. Cyan got off the wagon to vote me instead, and you haven't voted yet. Also: A wagon is all lot of people voting someone, NOT a lot of people sring someone. Besides, I never said I was creating the wagon. I just said barely anyone's on it. This is dumb. Actually vote Pac, otherwise you have no reason to say I'm bandwagoning. |
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 4, 2022 4:06:07 GMT
firstly, fk u it wasnt shit post secondly, voting me cause it was my only message? pac and erry havent spoken much and have contributed far less imo. Sounds to me like ur looking for an easy vote by capitalizing on the momentom of people dissing my post lol. erry was an rvs but considering now voting sylv... will have to read more before commiting however. Ok I think this was a over-reaction and I don't like it. Something doesn't seem right here we havent seen much of angel, pac, erry, and idt ive seen a lot of chaos either. idr that much shadow either also yeah the little interaction there- angels entry post was fine imo, it was similar to shadows entry post organization wise. also it wasnt angels only post my main point however is that you could have commented a lot more there, or brought up some more info. instead you chose to just say some very basic summed up wording without much thought/logic |
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 4, 2022 4:06:26 GMT
for my above post i meant kliff fyi
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Post by zachattack01 on Jul 4, 2022 4:28:08 GMT
Most of this post is just reiterating a lot of what I said about my suspicions of pac. And I will absolutely jump on you for bandwagoning when you are in fact the fourth person on this wagon. It was created by chaos and I when chaos voted for pac then asked for me to clarify on why I sussed then, then cyan got on it too when they responded to my message, and they took a different approach than me and ultimately gave me more insight on what their motives could be. You have not. Open your eyes and look around. You're the fourth person on the wagon you think you're creating. I'm the third person on this wagon. Cyan got off the wagon to vote me instead, and you haven't voted yet. Also: A wagon is all lot of people voting someone, NOT a lot of people sring someone. Besides, I never said I was creating the wagon. I just said barely anyone's on it. This is dumb. Actually vote Pac, otherwise you have no reason to say I'm bandwagoning. I misunderstood what wagoning was. My b. I'm holding on a vote cause I wanna give them a chance to respond to everything I said about them earlier. If I chose to not wait, I would've cast my vote on pac before giving them a chance to respond, which would've been many hours ago and more importantly before your vote, so your point doesn't really prove anything besides admitting that you're on the wagon. |
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Post by Sylveon & Rando on Jul 4, 2022 4:33:41 GMT
Pac n cheese is sus: Part Two (Electric Boogaloo) Cop on cyan, body on cyan and rb on syvl imo, The safest thing will be to assume that mafia rb will be acting alone contradicting the mafia goons. "Maf RB's target will contradict the kill!" No shit, Sherlock. Scum wouldn't want to RB the person getting killed, because, well, they're getting killed. Also, both cop and bodyguard on cyan?! What?!?! Most of the time, you don't want to protect the person who you sr, because, well, you think they're scum. And scum should not, can not, and will not kill themselves. Besides, I thought you said that everyone in the first 7 people to talk group was town in your eyes? Unless you think that cyan is the "one scum in our group if there is any". Will be best if we did this with a consensus and unless d2 or future days the cop doesn't claim and call someone for being scum, We will assume that person we demanded got cleared as a townie. Body on that said person to at least get some conf town players alive to act as a medium of trust for the days. Will help isolating the iso's and interactions from my perspective Okay, but maf can just try to kill them again, right? And if they're scum, then rest of maf will kill the cop claim. ---- More info about the Pac n cheese bandwagon. Let's make this an official wagon, guys! |
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