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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on May 28, 2023 22:49:25 GMT
See above.
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on May 28, 2023 22:51:01 GMT
If you want to reeval, my ISO is right there, have fun.
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Post by MyanMario on May 29, 2023 1:36:56 GMT
I’m sorry I forgot about this game for the day, been all over the place while on vacation
I’ve read and hopefully caught up although I don’t have time to wallpost until tomorrow (?)
Gts my reasoning for clems being the top is because it’s been over a week and they yet to do anything towny, sand is higher on my tr than them. Idk what you really mean about the wob flip making them town I can try to reread it later
I’m getting really just, not good vibes from snaq rn. Don’t have an explanation so don’t ask for one b/c it’s purely just how I am reading their tone/lines
Idk why for the second day in a row we had an out of pocket shot yall please talk more b4 shot
Tenshi isn’t talking that much here i don’t like that
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Post by MyanMario on May 29, 2023 1:38:24 GMT
Forgot to mention sand took me completely out of their game-win poe scenario only to put me in their top 3 srs a few posts later, that felt super inconsistent
Clems -> snaq >
-> sand -> schia
I don’t trust anyone so I’m only basing this off of scummyness
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Post by Prodigu on May 29, 2023 2:27:56 GMT
Ngl i think the last scum lies in either Schia or Snaq slot
I think Clem is town (as much as i dislike it >_>)
Imo if: Schia > Snaq > Ihbst > Myan is wut happens i think we hit scum eventually as long as Clem isnt shot at any point i think town pretty much wins
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Post by Prodigu on May 29, 2023 2:29:30 GMT
Idk how much discussion there will be tbh, so idk if its worth to hold the shot or not
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Post by Prodigu on May 29, 2023 3:11:59 GMT
I assume ill be hitting town with this shot so i wanted to say something before i go out. Its been years since ive actually been in a mafia game like around 5/6 at this point and it was honestly rly fun to come back to and I kinda would like to start doing it again. (Although no more wall posting for me haha) So id like to say thank you to ForgotToFlush for inviting me and id like to start playing again a bit Also, id love to chat about the game sometime (after it finishes probably) so if ur interested in that Ftf hmu I promise I will pick up this time!! Also gonna bet none of you are looking at this thread rn since youve died but it was honestly rly nice to get to play with Fenrir @wob and @crespo again (even if Toni didnt say much and Fenrir was the first shot 😭) I honestly think u played a rly good game Wob |
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Post by Prodigu on May 29, 2023 3:13:55 GMT
I assume ill be hitting town with this shot so i wanted to say something before i go out. Its been years since ive actually been in a mafia game like around 5/6 at this point and it was honestly rly fun to come back to and I kinda would like to start doing it again. (Although no more wall posting for me haha) So id like to say thank you to ForgotToFlush for inviting me and id like to start playing again a bit Also, id love to chat about the game sometime (after it finishes probably) so if ur interested in that Ftf hmu I promise I will pick up this time!! Also gonna bet none of you are looking at this thread rn since youve died but it was honestly rly nice to get to play with Fenrir Wob and Crespo again (even if Toni didnt say much and Fenrir was the first shot 😭) I honestly think u played a rly good game Wob Anyways SHOOT SCHIA |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on May 29, 2023 3:52:58 GMT
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on May 29, 2023 4:01:06 GMT
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Post by iavh on May 29, 2023 6:46:15 GMT
gm
quite. emotional that post by prod was.
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on May 29, 2023 11:04:32 GMT
So. Gonna need a few things today.  We've all spent a lot of time on scum this and POE that but really I think it's important we get some townreads in the mix. I tried as much when Gary asked for folks to do the full roster runthrough, and despite the POE I landed on being a bad fit, I do think a lot of it (and subsequent reeval) still holds water in terms of town vs scum equity. There are plenty of reasons why the remaining lot of you can be wolves, but there are also reasons why each of you could be town - and indeed three of you are. It's important for you to find each other. 2. Active Thread PresenceI don't need you to threadcamp, I just need you to put in the work while you're here. As endgame approaches, we've got less wiggle room, so it's that much more important that the time on the ground is put to good use. Momentum needs to stay high, and that means being active and involved through the phase. Hold each other accountable to this.
3. Interactive Thread PresenceThis is the big one. Need you guys to talk to each other. It's easy to direct thoughts to the IC or to just air out thoughts in thread, but it's just as important to interact with each other's cases, past and present. Dig through thread, dig into each other's posts, all that good stuff. No chance of finding each other if you don't interact.
Today's about (enforced) re-evaluation, so let's make haste not waste, yeah? I'll be around. |
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Post by iavh on May 29, 2023 13:19:42 GMT
So. Gonna need a few things today. We've all spent a lot of time on scum this and POE that but really I think it's important we get some townreads in the mix. I tried as much when Gary asked for folks to do the full roster runthrough, and despite the POE I landed on being a bad fit, I do think a lot of it (and subsequent reeval) still holds water in terms of town vs scum equity. There are plenty of reasons why the remaining lot of you can be wolves, but there are also reasons why each of you could be town - and indeed three of you are. It's important for you to find each other. 2. Active Thread PresenceI don't need you to threadcamp, I just need you to put in the work while you're here. As endgame approaches, we've got less wiggle room, so it's that much more important that the time on the ground is put to good use. Momentum needs to stay high, and that means being active and involved through the phase. Hold each other accountable to this.
3. Interactive Thread PresenceThis is the big one. Need you guys to talk to each other. It's easy to direct thoughts to the IC or to just air out thoughts in thread, but it's just as important to interact with each other's cases, past and present. Dig through thread, dig into each other's posts, all that good stuff. No chance of finding each other if you don't interact.
Today's about (enforced) re-evaluation, so let's make haste not waste, yeah? I'll be around. …threadcamping it is. |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on May 29, 2023 14:07:26 GMT
God forbid we start to show a little initiative around here.  In the meantime, I'll be posting Succession gifs. |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on May 29, 2023 16:14:41 GMT
So. Gonna need a few things today. We've all spent a lot of time on scum this and POE that but really I think it's important we get some townreads in the mix. I tried as much when Gary asked for folks to do the full roster runthrough, and despite the POE I landed on being a bad fit, I do think a lot of it (and subsequent reeval) still holds water in terms of town vs scum equity. There are plenty of reasons why the remaining lot of you can be wolves, but there are also reasons why each of you could be town - and indeed three of you are. It's important for you to find each other. 2. Active Thread PresenceI don't need you to threadcamp, I just need you to put in the work while you're here. As endgame approaches, we've got less wiggle room, so it's that much more important that the time on the ground is put to good use. Momentum needs to stay high, and that means being active and involved through the phase. Hold each other accountable to this. 3. Interactive Thread PresenceThis is the big one. Need you guys to talk to each other. It's easy to direct thoughts to the IC or to just air out thoughts in thread, but it's just as important to interact with each other's cases, past and present. Dig through thread, dig into each other's posts, all that good stuff. No chance of finding each other if you don't interact. Today's about (enforced) re-evaluation, so let's make haste not waste, yeah? I'll be around. Good to see people have been active, I'm back though and will hopefully have a decent amount of time tn. Hope to especially see some others online for 3, as the past few days have been painful for me just reading a bunch |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on May 29, 2023 16:22:38 GMT
iavh I know you're on PS rn so I hope to catch you here soon. My plan is to look at the ISOs of all of you in combination w/ wob and Crespo to see if that leads to anything
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on May 29, 2023 16:43:24 GMT
I think it would be a little cute if everyone presented a scum case for every remaining player, even those they may tr. Getting every player to agree to thar may be difficult, but ultimately I'd find it quite beneficial gonna give this a shot clems: the more i think about it the more i think it would make a lot of sense for toni to just have been bussing clems if they were partners - it did very much seem like clems was definitely getting shot that day so why not just jump on the wagon anyway. one thing i really didnt like from clems was that they made one post about how schia asked for gun and how that could possibly be a town slip. then just a couple posts later they said something about how they didnt mind getting gun and mentioned who they would shoot and even what time they'd be shooting at. it came across as if they thought saying this would also get them some town cred and it all just felt very forced. i do have a hard time reading into their posts in general but thats something that stood out to me as suspect. wob seems to set up a clemens sub, without truly SRing him? This does feel like a push on town with a few reaches (most is fairly surface level, without considering the motivation behind it). Obviously wob's preferred shot would be ihbst here, but the seed has been planted for this to be his next push I think.ihbst: this would be my preferred shot today. i feel like they haven't reacted all that well to some of the shots, particularly after toni flipped it felt like they tried very quickly to recontextualize their reads / posts because they knew it was going to reflect poorly on them. also it seems like their general posting quality / substance has dipped as their name has started coming up more as a potential shot (they even said they felt like they might get shot today), which im wondering is because they dont know how to deal with the increased pressure as scum. Honestly, feels unlikely that wob would want to push his scumpartner this hard here, unless he felt like he wouldn't be listened to anyway (which I wouldn't assume?). I do agree that ihbst's posting quality had gone down, but from wob's perspective it wouldn't be smart to make him the main push IMO. It makes more sense to cast shade on the scumpartner, but not really push hard like with...myan: myan has tunnelled clems pretty hard this whole game, which confuses me because the reasoning has never really evolved much beyond the amount of trolling / filler, when it seems pretty obvious thats just how clems plays. i do get wanting to shoot a slot like that anyways because it can be pretty annoying to play with. but idk, myan's reasoning for why they wanted to shoot clems but not toni i feel was pretty weak as i went over before, and also it just seems like they havent really given much in-depth thought to anyone else on the playerlist which makes it seem like they aren't actively scumhunting at all. To me this post conveys, knowing wob was scum, that he wants to admit that Myan has been scummy, but does not want to push him (compared to ihbst / clemens posts). I think this would make sense for a scumpartner that would be relatively hard to defend. Additionally, here wob seems to set up clemens for being shot (by saying it makes more and more sense for it to be a bus). However, then I'd also expect a little more empathy to Myan for pushing clemens.Starting w this post as I had no time to do it yday while asking other people to. I'm not sure why Schia said Myan and wob are unpartnered (pov of this post). Responses in orange. In hindsight, I can see what Gary was saying that wob set himself up such that any slot could be pushed - and also have some of his reads look correct. |
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Post by iavh on May 29, 2023 16:45:09 GMT
iavh I know you're on PS rn so I hope to catch you here soon. My plan is to look at the ISOs of all of you in combination w/ wob and Crespo to see if that leads to anything yep you caught me here so what's the plan here |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on May 29, 2023 16:48:58 GMT
iavh I know you're on PS rn so I hope to catch you here soon. My plan is to look at the ISOs of all of you in combination w/ wob and Crespo to see if that leads to anything yep you caught me here so what's the plan here 1) To discuss 2) My plan is to improve my reads in case I get the gun at some point (And hopefully do better than I have thus far) Schia is right, there's him + 3 more town left. It makes sense to make townreads too, and try to band together as town to get to a conclusion |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on May 29, 2023 16:49:37 GMT
Also I just realized I asked people to analyze the wolfcases on wob by people and prod added this. Close enough though
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on May 29, 2023 17:04:44 GMT
Myan really focused on pushing Yash on the day Yash was shot and did not really bother doing much otherwise. Wob kinda commented on Yash but kept to the wayside, I could see scum loving a Yash shot this day though. He also wanted clemens shot but did not really elaborate on it much said day. wob indicated this day he wanted a shot on someone who pushed clemens: Myan or ihbst. I'm v interested in this bc from my pov one of the players involved in this interaction must be scum. wob started saying clemens could be bussed by Toni, which I don't think he needed to still. I think otherwise, the two slots did not interact so much, and wob never really honed in on the Myan push. MyanMario ihbst, how do you feel about clemens right now? From interactions I agree with Gary (iirc) that he's super towny, but would love to hear what you think. Especially from myan as you had clemens in your Poe of people to shoot. Have some more thoughts on Myan's ISO w/ Toni and wob but would like to hear what iavh thinks about this (if you're online) |
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Post by ihbst on May 29, 2023 17:12:54 GMT
clem is mega town
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on May 29, 2023 17:14:13 GMT
Oh, hey guys. Mind if I join you?  re: the difference check on Wob/Myan, I'd had them as lightly unpartnered based on some earlier interactions, marked in the spreadsheet (written independently of Wob's readwall). I don't (and didn't) think anyone's clear here, but it was part of the triage for me - which is just that, triage. Wob's flip does, though, make it pretty clear that the team had no issues going the hellbus route. This post is something that stood out to me on that front [x], since you've got Toni soft-shielding Myan (in a way similar to what had been concerning me about Prod), while also lining up Wob to join the POE immediately following a Clem shot. I know the optimality of bussing has come up a lot throughout the game & impacted people's leanings on one read over another, but esp. with a disjointed town the strat becomes a lot more viable, so as far as I'm concerned no one's out of contention--which is something I'd like to change today. |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on May 29, 2023 17:17:00 GMT
Would you shoot me or Myan |
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Post by ihbst on May 29, 2023 17:20:54 GMT
ngl prob Lucas
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