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Post by Prodigu on May 28, 2023 20:24:17 GMT
I think it would be a little cute if everyone presented a scum case for every remaining player, even those they may tr. Getting every player to agree to thar may be difficult, but ultimately I'd find it quite beneficial gonna give this a shot clems: the more i think about it the more i think it would make a lot of sense for toni to just have been bussing clems if they were partners - it did very much seem like clems was definitely getting shot that day so why not just jump on the wagon anyway. one thing i really didnt like from clems was that they made one post about how schia asked for gun and how that could possibly be a town slip. then just a couple posts later they said something about how they didnt mind getting gun and mentioned who they would shoot and even what time they'd be shooting at. it came across as if they thought saying this would also get them some town cred and it all just felt very forced. i do have a hard time reading into their posts in general but thats something that stood out to me as suspect. ihbst: this would be my preferred shot today. i feel like they haven't reacted all that well to some of the shots, particularly after toni flipped it felt like they tried very quickly to recontextualize their reads / posts because they knew it was going to reflect poorly on them. also it seems like their general posting quality / substance has dipped as their name has started coming up more as a potential shot (they even said they felt like they might get shot today), which im wondering is because they dont know how to deal with the increased pressure as scum. myan: myan has tunnelled clems pretty hard this whole game, which confuses me because the reasoning has never really evolved much beyond the amount of trolling / filler, when it seems pretty obvious thats just how clems plays. i do get wanting to shoot a slot like that anyways because it can be pretty annoying to play with. but idk, myan's reasoning for why they wanted to shoot clems but not toni i feel was pretty weak as i went over before, and also it just seems like they havent really given much in-depth thought to anyone else on the playerlist which makes it seem like they aren't actively scumhunting at all. prod: i do think that prod has played a very safe game, he's said a lot that i agree with but at the same time his takes tend to be pretty uncontroversial and non-committal. i do sometimes get the feeling that his posts are crafted in such a way to be present enough / provide enough substance to not be called out for it but at the same time avoid conflict with anyone from town. schia: i think it makes a lot of sense for schia to have pushed for the yash -> gary shots if he's scum, knowing this is how it would play out. especially if his partner is a "safer" slot that hasnt really been on the chopping block so much like snaq or prod that would make it pretty easy for them to clean up here. also i feel like his bit about only shooting someone from toni's quote wall isnt all that convincing and might just be him trying to narrow down the shot pool for today. snaq: his townread on schia feels a bit forced, when i asked him about it the response basically amounted to "i liked his posts" without much consideration as to how town schia would act vs how scum schia would act. it sticks out to me compared to his other posts which have generally had some deeper / better insights into how people are playing. he also brought up that tic tac toe game a couple times i guess to show he gave some consideration to scummy things that schia has done but that also feels like low hanging fruit cause its totally some shit that schia would do regardless of alignment imo lol. idk interested to see if snaq can provide a bit more context on that read though. Lets consider Wobs scum cases on everyone. And lets take a look into Wobs mind: Wob was not expecting to get shot today and he felt completely safe imo. So lets keep that in mind. Clems: This is fine and relatively non problematic i think any and every player has about the same viewpoint. Ihbst: I think this is a decent case made against Ihbst. Lets note that Wob wanted this slot shot, imo idt this would be a partner based off of that information then. Ihbst has also had the same general posting quality for most of the game. Myan: This is fair, however it doesnt expand much beyond just tunneling someone down. Prod / Myself: IMO this is a relatively weaker case that others have said more on. Schia: I also say this is a weaker case. I think this case is only built off of more recent days and not much earlier. I do think there was more to say on the Schia slot but very possible Wob didnt want to take the time to go back much further. Snaq: Decent case imo, but Iirc Snaq has provided a lot of reasoning and insight for things, I think if Snaq was a scum partner he wouldnt be trying to ding him for as much? Imo this tic tac toe game is being looked into too much |
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Post by Prodigu on May 28, 2023 20:35:51 GMT
Page 11-20: To further the point about prod earlier. I think posts like these don't really help the gamestate and kinda state an "obvious" read: ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/94133/threadForgot about this post but encountered it upon Schia's quote. Do like him defending Fen (a lot) ps-mafia.proboards.com/thread/1211/staff-semi-invitational-popcorn-thread?page=4&scrollTo=93974moto found myan horrible, it seems. Did not want him "anywhere near volo". I haven't found Myan's posts aggressively bad from a readover, personally though. ihbst found shooting AFK day 2 a bad idea. Repeat earlier point. Crespo: From the very very few things youve said, it at least appears to me it appears like youre kinda here but also not. IK i havent played a game with you in years (I only have a few ppl in here that fit that category and youre unfortunately one of them) but idr you being a particular lurker (I will say as long as you are who I remember u to be) I DID play one game with you where we were both scum and u suggested just lurking out D1 iirc which is why im giving you a read despite you not saying much. I do dislike basing one game off of another but this is why im kinda having this read, id like to see contribution of some sort today from u that way im not giving a read based on a different game. If i have any conclusion rn, I need to see more from u and find it weird youve been not contributing. Lots of words (about like 2 posts) to not get to any conclusion. Not sure why Toni was singled out here (nor if it's AI that it wasn't say Dactyl, or wob) Reached Toni hating Clemens' post. Def does not seem like Clemens would join a wob + Toni scumteam. Also, I think clemens' has been posting rather uninhibitedly. At this point I'm ok with making Clemens coretown. Doubling down with Toni quoting like 7 clemens posts to make disliking clemens his personality Side note love seeing people complaining about 12 pages to read, when I know I have 18 more to go! Idk how much itll help to clarify the Toni/Crespo thing but ill try to give some context. A large majority of the players in this game i have never played with before. Toni, Wob, and Fenrir however I have played with previously. Youre also one of those “ive played with previously as well” now ig Fenrir i had no problems with. Idr Wobs MO for Scum/Town unfortunately (sorry Dbw ;-  However. Toni I remembered being a more “outspoken” player at least when Town. I wanted to point out his lurkiness because i found it extremely weird and different. |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on May 28, 2023 20:40:11 GMT
Page 21-30: Okay Toni's ISO is very funny in context of the thread. I stand by shooting clemens being his personality Feels like Myan did not really engage in Toni when he was being active in the thread. Same with Prod? Kind of confused how Myan slipped under the radar (to some degree) after everyone disliking him at first, I notice I struggle to really go deep on the Schia read, which ironically wob called out in his wolfcase on me (I do think he would call this out on s!Schia too). I find his posts fun to read, they enhance the game. But I do think the Fen shot, the Yash=>Gary shot were in favor of Schia. Still can't say I SR him. Has interacted with too many people, forcing them to work, without really seeming to favor some over the other. Has been pretty consistent with all players? I do like Schia pushing wob early on (here: ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/94589/thread), which would've def not been a good shot for scum!Schia if it'd happened here Wonder if wob would've sussed both his scum partners here lol ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/94571/threadReached the end and realised I've not commented much on ihbst :x
Aight that's it for reading boring chunks of texts for the day. Prod would be my shot here, also because I have more reasons for everyone else to believe they'd be town Prodigu you're a good enough player to engage in some self reflection I think (+ I've seen you handle similar points in some posts). What do you think of the reasons I've started doubting you? |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on May 28, 2023 20:40:51 GMT
If anyone wants to discuss I'll be here but reading up really drains me so won't be taking the initiative today probably
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Post by Prodigu on May 28, 2023 21:09:02 GMT
Page 21-30: Okay Toni's ISO is very funny in context of the thread. I stand by shooting clemens being his personality Feels like Myan did not really engage in Toni when he was being active in the thread. Same with Prod? Kind of confused how Myan slipped under the radar (to some degree) after everyone disliking him at first, I notice I struggle to really go deep on the Schia read, which ironically wob called out in his wolfcase on me (I do think he would call this out on s!Schia too). I find his posts fun to read, they enhance the game. But I do think the Fen shot, the Yash=>Gary shot were in favor of Schia. Still can't say I SR him. Has interacted with too many people, forcing them to work, without really seeming to favor some over the other. Has been pretty consistent with all players? I do like Schia pushing wob early on (here: ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/94589/thread), which would've def not been a good shot for scum!Schia if it'd happened here Wonder if wob would've sussed both his scum partners here lol ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/94571/threadReached the end and realised I've not commented much on ihbst :x
Aight that's it for reading boring chunks of texts for the day. Prod would be my shot here, also because I have more reasons for everyone else to believe they'd be town Prodigu you're a good enough player to engage in some self reflection I think (+ I've seen you handle similar points in some posts). What do you think of the reasons I've started doubting you? I think your reasons for doubting me are fair and founded. A lot of the things i have said are mainly responses to people that is how i usually play the game, and i do realize ive shifted more to a backseat position as others have commentated. Overall the wall posts is something i do to try to put a lot of information into one place, but at the cost of them being lengthy and bad to read (this i should stop) Youre right in that it can be isolating oneself from the rest of the game but also to appear as though im around. Tbh the reason i do wall posts is b/c i feel as though i struggle to say much in smaller context and i like trying to take time to think things out. The wall posts is prob what led me to taking a more back seat approach in further days because they were very draining to do on me, mainly b/c when i make them i try to go and analyze a large amount of things people have said at the same time. One thing you mentioned was me having very limited interactions with Gary, however i do think the reverse holds true in this instance. TBH i think its interesting no one has called me out for being more active today than other days and has SR me for “trying” to divert town to shoot someone other than myself. |
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Post by ihbst on May 28, 2023 21:18:42 GMT
the game can def be poed at this point, let's all say what people are the least scummy
I think Clemens is the least followed by snaq/myan(about equal)
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Post by Gary The Savage on May 28, 2023 21:44:53 GMT
Can I shoot now
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on May 28, 2023 21:45:34 GMT
Sure
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Post by iavh on May 28, 2023 21:52:17 GMT
dam.
gary has intent to shoot 7h before dl
I can go to sleep!
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Post by Gary The Savage on May 28, 2023 21:52:52 GMT
Alright, since Schias reaction I knew this was my shot. Ideally game ends right here, if not, best of luck to the rest of town. It's been a blast of a game to play!
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Post by Gary The Savage on May 28, 2023 21:53:14 GMT
dam. gary has intent to shoot 7h before dl I can go to sleep! It's closer to 4 but okay |
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Post by Gary The Savage on May 28, 2023 21:53:30 GMT
Shoot Prod
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Post by ForgotToFlush on May 28, 2023 21:55:02 GMT
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Post by iavh on May 28, 2023 21:55:08 GMT
o is it 4
I didn't know that
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Post by Prodigu on May 28, 2023 21:56:49 GMT
Unfortunately you chose poorly you shouldve shot Schia |
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Post by Prodigu on May 28, 2023 21:57:07 GMT
Hello Everyone, and Goodbye Gary Rip
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on May 28, 2023 21:57:35 GMT
My series of bad calls continues
How you doing prod?
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Post by iavh on May 28, 2023 21:58:07 GMT
Unfortunately you chose poorly you shouldve shot Schia would you shoot schia here? |
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Post by Prodigu on May 28, 2023 21:58:28 GMT
Im fine how bout you? Yea it was an unfort call,
Part of me was gonna say earlier “even if u shoot me the game will unfortunately continue”
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Post by Prodigu on May 28, 2023 21:59:03 GMT
Unfortunately you chose poorly you shouldve shot Schia would you shoot schia here? Tbh i think my biggest SR is on Schia rn but im not shooting immediately |
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Post by Prodigu on May 28, 2023 22:13:33 GMT
@lucas What happens if i end up shooting you instead
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on May 28, 2023 22:24:26 GMT
I'm not sure right now besides that I'd def not shoot clemens after
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on May 28, 2023 22:44:10 GMT
Maybe the play is to reverse my POE. Would be on track with town being scummy as fuck.
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on May 28, 2023 22:44:50 GMT
Snaq or Ihsbt, gn and gl
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Post by Prodigu on May 28, 2023 22:45:50 GMT
Schia what happens if i shoot you, if you flip town whats your plan
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