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Post by Clouds on Jul 9, 2023 18:21:49 GMT
winsy tinsy's opener felt fine to me. i tend to get cold feet with players that are extremely active at the beginning but i think the way they're pressing the thread for any sort of content reads slightly more on the "villager desperate for activity" side than "hungry wolf" one
by extension i liked neo's opener as well cause it's an awfully unnecessary spotlight to bring upon yourself early as a wolf and it didn't feel like the posts they're making are thoughts they're forcing themself to care about
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Post by ®➕➕ on Jul 9, 2023 18:22:43 GMT
you think so? i'd argue their entrance is the most villager of anyone's despite it being just 2 posts idk if thats the point but they wanted to make things interesting right? not much more than voting a tl what does this even mean its like i'm reading a copout/defense on an a objectively bad vote that only happened because I was bitching at him for game fluff the post would've been infinitely better if he didn't just say "make things interesting" and leave it at that because at that point it just reads off like he's just doing things just to do it as you can tell I'm extremely fun at parties and don't like what could've been some obscure attempt at softing (find better ways to filler if your going to do it)
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Post by Clouds on Jul 9, 2023 18:23:50 GMT
Criticising thread bloat/filler is valid and I agree it makes Neo look townie. At the same time I'm kind of wary of townreading for this though. The thread has to start somehow and I can't really expect anyone to have any substantial contribution if they're quite literally the first to post in the thread. You have the advantage of being able to criticise filler when you're not the one starting off the thread. So yeah, overall those initial interactions are NAI IMO but Neo comes out of it looking better. right you joined this, cool. & agreed with like everything here also i'm town (:
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Post by ®➕➕ on Jul 9, 2023 18:50:20 GMT
winsy tinsy's opener felt fine to me. i tend to get cold feet with players that are extremely active at the beginning but i think the way they're pressing the thread for any sort of content reads slightly more on the "villager desperate for activity" side than "hungry wolf" one by extension i liked neo's opener as well cause it's an awfully unnecessary spotlight to bring upon yourself early as a wolf and it didn't feel like the posts they're making are thoughts they're forcing themself to care about somehow disagree with your reasoning for everything you posted here but whatever wont address whatever you think about my posts or how "authentic they are" and would very much argue that winsy is not by any means pressing the thread for content reads
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Post by Fame on Jul 9, 2023 19:08:19 GMT
winsy tinsy's opener felt fine to me. i tend to get cold feet with players that are extremely active at the beginning but i think the way they're pressing the thread for any sort of content reads slightly more on the "villager desperate for activity" side than "hungry wolf" one by extension i liked neo's opener as well cause it's an awfully unnecessary spotlight to bring upon yourself early as a wolf and it didn't feel like the posts they're making are thoughts they're forcing themself to care about somehow disagree with your reasoning for everything you posted here but whatever wont address whatever you think about my posts or how "authentic they are" and would very much argue that winsy is not by any means pressing the thread for content reads Considering you're arguing against the opening filler, how else do you suggest they open the thread/how would you have started the thread if you had been post #1? Genuine question. You came into the thread with the advantage of someone starting the thread for you and came out of it looking somewhat townie. Your reads quite literally aren't possible unless they make those initial posts, so to argue that it didn't generate any discussion / they weren't pressing the thread for reads is kind of weird imo. That was clearly their intention IMO, given they responded to you voting them with "at least you're talking" and voting you back "just to make things interesting". I'd agree that declaring your vote as RVS/something to generate content is kind of meaningless/redundant since it eliminates any pressure you can apply with your vote. But still.
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 9, 2023 19:10:55 GMT
also forgot my starting greeting but I’m excited to play this game with you all :] hi you too, are you an alt or someone i don't know? hello friend
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Post by Clouds on Jul 9, 2023 19:55:07 GMT
winsy tinsy's opener felt fine to me. i tend to get cold feet with players that are extremely active at the beginning but i think the way they're pressing the thread for any sort of content reads slightly more on the "villager desperate for activity" side than "hungry wolf" one by extension i liked neo's opener as well cause it's an awfully unnecessary spotlight to bring upon yourself early as a wolf and it didn't feel like the posts they're making are thoughts they're forcing themself to care about somehow disagree with your reasoning for everything you posted here but whatever wont address whatever you think about my posts or how "authentic they are" and would very much argue that winsy is not by any means pressing the thread for content reads get that you dislike the phrase/think it's vague when i use it, but that's not even a descriptor i used in reference to your posts here so you don't have to travel outside the bounds of this game this response is also a weird way to pat yourself on the back for the towncred you received from me and then divert your focus elsewhere, why even bring up what i think about your posts to begin with if you don't care to address it?
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Post by Clouds on Jul 9, 2023 19:55:52 GMT
hi you too, are you an alt or someone i don't know? hello friend hi... but which one is it
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Post by Clouds on Jul 9, 2023 20:01:00 GMT
kinda slightly soured on neo slot already after that response despite a strong opener, but far too early to come to any conclusion. think it's a case of having to distinguish between whether or not some of these pressure points they're hitting make sense or if they're continuously breaking into relatively nai things/mischaracterizing others' actions in a way that looks like an attempt to discredit as opposed to solve, and we won't know that immediately so it's something you have to continuously revisit
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Post by Crespo on Jul 9, 2023 20:17:39 GMT
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Post by Crespo on Jul 9, 2023 20:20:40 GMT
ftr i agree with the fact that the first interaction of the game are just nai but i also think that fingerlings and winsy’s reaction are just nai too because like….i think any combination of alignments are capable of having that interaction anyway so their reactions just seem genuine
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Post by Crespo on Jul 9, 2023 20:27:07 GMT
where is everyone
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Post by winsytinsy on Jul 9, 2023 20:35:46 GMT
I’m just watching rn
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Post by frogo on Jul 9, 2023 20:47:57 GMT
hi winsy is probably town for being unafraid to discuss their role while i agree with neo that saying "let's make things interesting" somewhat defeats the purpose of winsy's vote on neo, i still feel like it has good intentions
my gut tells me that crespo and ddlc are bad guys didn't like either of their entrances
fame is talking too smart. like they are omniscient. like they are the informed minority. if ur picking up what im putting down.
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Post by frogo on Jul 9, 2023 20:49:19 GMT
ftr i agree with the fact that the first interaction of the game are just nai but i also think that fingerlings and winsy’s reaction are just nai too because like….i think any combination of alignments are capable of having that interaction anyway so their reactions just seem genuine their reactions are genuine but also NAI? i dont get it
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Post by frogo on Jul 9, 2023 20:52:13 GMT
I’m at work and on mobile I will play soon I forget how to bold on mobile someeon vote cyan 4 me pls this just feels LAMIST. like look at me omg someone pweaseeeee help me the innocent lil townie.
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Post by Fame on Jul 9, 2023 20:59:40 GMT
hi winsy is probably town for being unafraid to discuss their role while i agree with neo that saying "let's make things interesting" somewhat defeats the purpose of winsy's vote on neo, i still feel like it has good intentions my gut tells me that crespo and ddlc are bad guys didn't like either of their entrances fame is talking too smart. like they are omniscient. like they are the informed minority. if ur picking up what im putting down. This is how I'll be talking all game so you gotta deal with it ^_^ On a real note I just feel prompted to format my posts properly since it's forum based and I have the time to do that !
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Post by Fame on Jul 9, 2023 21:01:53 GMT
ftr i agree with the fact that the first interaction of the game are just nai but i also think that fingerlings and winsy’s reaction are just nai too because like….i think any combination of alignments are capable of having that interaction anyway so their reactions just seem genuine their reactions are genuine but also NAI? i dont get it Also I think you're conflating being genuine with being town which makes the difference here. Like, you can be genuine in wanting to create discussion/wanting to advance the game even with Mafia alignment. NAI on the whole but genuine in wanting to get game up and running is how I read that.
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Post by frogo on Jul 9, 2023 21:02:50 GMT
hi winsy is probably town for being unafraid to discuss their role while i agree with neo that saying "let's make things interesting" somewhat defeats the purpose of winsy's vote on neo, i still feel like it has good intentions my gut tells me that crespo and ddlc are bad guys didn't like either of their entrances fame is talking too smart. like they are omniscient. like they are the informed minority. if ur picking up what im putting down. This is how I'll be talking all game so you gotta deal with it ^_^ On a real note I just feel prompted to format my posts properly since it's forum based and I have the time to do that ! it's not how you're talking but how much thought and theory you are putting into your posts. what do we get from discussing the theory of how a mafia game starts. it's just so distanced from the actual words being said in the thread.
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Post by frogo on Jul 9, 2023 21:09:20 GMT
Wow. Frozen scum... This is how I'll be talking all game so you gotta deal with it ^_^ On a real note I just feel prompted to format my posts properly since it's forum based and I have the time to do that ! who says you're gonna be around all game? VOTE: Fame
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Post by Clouds on Jul 9, 2023 21:10:36 GMT
hi winsy is probably town for being unafraid to discuss their role while i agree with neo that saying "let's make things interesting" somewhat defeats the purpose of winsy's vote on neo, i still feel like it has good intentions my gut tells me that crespo and ddlc are bad guys didn't like either of their entrances fame is talking too smart. like they are omniscient. like they are the informed minority. if ur picking up what im putting down. i'd say this doesn't hold water for fame cause they talk like this in ps! maf games as town sometimes too it's just harder to notice in chat mafia & easier to see when isolated here. i like fame's posts so far and i townlean them a bit
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Post by ®➕➕ on Jul 9, 2023 21:14:46 GMT
somehow disagree with your reasoning for everything you posted here but whatever wont address whatever you think about my posts or how "authentic they are" and would very much argue that winsy is not by any means pressing the thread for content reads Considering you're arguing against the opening filler, how else do you suggest they open the thread/how would you have started the thread if you had been post #1? Genuine question. You came into the thread with the advantage of someone starting the thread for you and came out of it looking somewhat townie. Your reads quite literally aren't possible unless they make those initial posts, so to argue that it didn't generate any discussion / they weren't pressing the thread for reads is kind of weird imo. That was clearly their intention IMO, given they responded to you voting them with "at least you're talking" and voting you back "just to make things interesting". I'd agree that declaring your vote as RVS/something to generate content is kind of meaningless/redundant since it eliminates any pressure you can apply with your vote. But still.
theres no such thing as a perfect #1 post but if I had the thread to myself and another person I had yet to play forums with for the 10 or so minutes that they had before I joined I would more than likely be questioning them about mafia instead of playing guessing games that you can never win with a prize of whatever you got in your role pm (shitposting is contagious, like to get game started sooner than later, I'm a stick in the mud, etc) and yes I'll still die on the hill that while that while there was discussion about nothing generated there was no pressing the thread for reads as shown by their game progression of seemingly just continuing to post to post especially given the context they gave w/ their vote somehow disagree with your reasoning for everything you posted here but whatever wont address whatever you think about my posts or how "authentic they are" and would very much argue that winsy is not by any means pressing the thread for content reads get that you dislike the phrase/think it's vague when i use it, but that's not even a descriptor i used in reference to your posts here so you don't have to travel outside the bounds of this game this response is also a weird way to pat yourself on the back for the towncred you received from me and then divert your focus elsewhere, why even bring up what i think about your posts to begin with if you don't care to address it? >but thats not even a descriptor "and it didn't feel like the posts they're making are thoughts they're forcing themself to care about" in what world is this phrase not synonymous with authenticity when the initial point is concerning the legitimacy of my read? nitpicking at small details like that aside the response was in no way shape or form a "pat on the back" and was very much dismissive because I could care less about these "yeah neo is town off opening posts" because it reads off as peanut gallery / lemming posting and actually wanted to address the second part of the quote in my disagreement of winsys posts not pressing the thread for content reads which you somehow ignored to summarize in this instance I'll say I soft fluffposted in my inclusion of it (my not caring being the "it") when the point of the post was an attempt to I see what you where seeing in winsys alleged pressing the thread for content reads but to think im preening over town reads from null players is actually ludicrous
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Post by Fame on Jul 9, 2023 21:15:05 GMT
This is how I'll be talking all game so you gotta deal with it ^_^ On a real note I just feel prompted to format my posts properly since it's forum based and I have the time to do that ! it's not how you're talking but how much thought and theory you are putting into your posts. what do we get from discussing the theory of how a mafia game starts. it's just so distanced from the actual words being said in the thread. Every post thus far is about someone's opening and another persons read of it. I feel like it's perfectly valid to ask how someone expects the thread to start/what they think people should open with if they're going to press someone for being filler-y/bloating the thread from posts 1-14. I don't really agree that it's distanced at all ngl.
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Post by Clouds on Jul 9, 2023 21:15:27 GMT
you don't have to fall back into the shadows just cause neo forgot to drink their morning coffee, unless you're lurking by choice but like more content is always better than lurking
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Post by winsytinsy on Jul 9, 2023 21:32:37 GMT
Not really by choice but w/e
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