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Post by winsytinsy on Jul 9, 2023 21:33:16 GMT
Considering you're arguing against the opening filler, how else do you suggest they open the thread/how would you have started the thread if you had been post #1? Genuine question. You came into the thread with the advantage of someone starting the thread for you and came out of it looking somewhat townie. Your reads quite literally aren't possible unless they make those initial posts, so to argue that it didn't generate any discussion / they weren't pressing the thread for reads is kind of weird imo. That was clearly their intention IMO, given they responded to you voting them with "at least you're talking" and voting you back "just to make things interesting". I'd agree that declaring your vote as RVS/something to generate content is kind of meaningless/redundant since it eliminates any pressure you can apply with your vote. But still.
theres no such thing as a perfect #1 post but if I had the thread to myself and another person I had yet to play forums with for the 10 or so minutes that they had before I joined I would more than likely be questioning them about mafia instead of playing guessing games that you can never win with a prize of whatever you got in your role pm (shitposting is contagious, like to get game started sooner than later, I'm a stick in the mud, etc) and yes I'll still die on the hill that while that while there was discussion about nothing generated there was no pressing the thread for reads as shown by their game progression of seemingly just continuing to post to post especially given the context they gave w/ their vote get that you dislike the phrase/think it's vague when i use it, but that's not even a descriptor i used in reference to your posts here so you don't have to travel outside the bounds of this game this response is also a weird way to pat yourself on the back for the towncred you received from me and then divert your focus elsewhere, why even bring up what i think about your posts to begin with if you don't care to address it? >but thats not even a descriptor "and it didn't feel like the posts they're making are thoughts they're forcing themself to care about" in what world is this phrase not synonymous with authenticity when the initial point is concerning the legitimacy of my read? nitpicking at small details like that aside the response was in no way shape or form a "pat on the back" and was very much dismissive because I could care less about these "yeah neo is town off opening posts" because it reads off as peanut gallery / lemming posting and actually wanted to address the second part of the quote in my disagreement of winsys posts not pressing the thread for content reads which you somehow ignored to summarize in this instance I'll say I soft fluffposted in my inclusion of it (my not caring being the "it") when the point of the post was an attempt to I see what you where seeing in winsys alleged pressing the thread for content reads but to think im preening over town reads from null players is actually ludicrous Just as a point of interest, I have played with fingerlings before, if that helps contextualize why I did that |
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Post by Clouds on Jul 9, 2023 21:33:39 GMT
get that you dislike the phrase/think it's vague when i use it, but that's not even a descriptor i used in reference to your posts here so you don't have to travel outside the bounds of this game this response is also a weird way to pat yourself on the back for the towncred you received from me and then divert your focus elsewhere, why even bring up what i think about your posts to begin with if you don't care to address it? >but thats not even a descriptor "and it didn't feel like the posts they're making are thoughts they're forcing themself to care about" in what world is this phrase not synonymous with authenticity when the initial point is concerning the legitimacy of my read? nitpicking at small details like that aside the response was in no way shape or form a "pat on the back" and was very much dismissive because I could care less about these "yeah neo is town off opening posts" because it reads off as peanut gallery / lemming posting and actually wanted to address the second part of the quote in my disagreement of winsys posts not pressing the thread for content reads which you somehow ignored to summarize in this instance I'll say I soft fluffposted in my inclusion of it (my not caring being the "it") when the point of the post was an attempt to I see what you where seeing in winsys alleged pressing the thread for content reads but to think im preening over town reads from null players is actually ludicrous first bolded - alright yeah that's fair, thought you were referencing my use of that phrase in psmaf games but if not then don't worry about it second bolded - if any response was worth the time i would've given it, but i don't have much more to add other than that i disagree with you thinking it wasn't pressing the thread for activity which would've gotten circular. if what you're looking for was them applying more direct pressure and maybe asking questions or something then sure, alright. and i'm not overlooking the fact that there's a lot of thread filler too, i see that. but i don't see how it doesn't at least look like they wanted thread content out there and were asking for it. it's more nai than your posts are, i'm just not seeing it as glass half empty as you seem to be think overall this response pushed me somewhat more towards t!Neo though |
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Post by Clouds on Jul 9, 2023 21:35:28 GMT
Not really by choice but w/e try not to let others' engagement with your posts hold you back too much, it's gonna help me solve your slot a lot more if you're just posting freely like you were at the start vs limiting yourself |
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Post by winsytinsy on Jul 9, 2023 21:51:04 GMT
Not really by choice but w/e try not to let others' engagement with your posts hold you back too much, it's gonna help me solve your slot a lot more if you're just posting freely like you were at the start vs limiting yourself Oh not like that, I was just a little busy irl |
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Post by Clouds on Jul 9, 2023 21:52:10 GMT
try not to let others' engagement with your posts hold you back too much, it's gonna help me solve your slot a lot more if you're just posting freely like you were at the start vs limiting yourself Oh not like that, I was just a little busy irl gotcha alright |
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Post by Crespo on Jul 10, 2023 0:49:24 GMT
ftr i agree with the fact that the first interaction of the game are just nai but i also think that fingerlings and winsy’s reaction are just nai too because like….i think any combination of alignments are capable of having that interaction anyway so their reactions just seem genuine their reactions are genuine but also NAI? i dont get it because of how nai it is |
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Post by cyan on Jul 10, 2023 1:11:22 GMT
unfortunately i will have to properly engage with this game after at least eight hours, or at least when i'm not taking a shitter in Shanghai
first thoughts are that i think the discourse surrounding "X is town because they called out fillering d1" only applies if the fillerer was being deliberate. calling out fillering is a goddamn easy way to act like you're analysing the game and contributing to town play without putting an ounce of effort into scumhunting, and the only thing to balance that out is genuine and blatant town frustration (hence the deliberate part). telling banterers to fuck off does not make a slot town
not making any reads here, just trying to address the arguments in favor of neo
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 10, 2023 1:51:26 GMT
[/div][/quote] so another admission to pointless fillering that took up the entirety of page one from you? cool and I'd appreciate it if you didn't speak for others to somehow justify your early nothingposting since there is absolutely no way to know if fingerlings took you serious (serious enough to answer it at least but I digress) I also legitimately cannot be bothered to address your "making things interesting" pseduo-omgus vote so by all means keep fluffing up the game w/ nothing [/quote] no I wasn’t expecting him to claim since we were the only there on day start we were just chatting. dont think it means a whole lot fwiw i think our interactions were pretty NAI also the quote looked weird on my end so idk if the formatting for you guys is gonna be weird [/quote] just wanna add that the page 1 stuff wasn’t so much fillering as it was just breaking the ice and imo I don’t think you should be expecting much more than bantering and d1 shenanigans. A lot of the beginning interactions like this is how you get to form your first reads anyway and you really can’t start from nothing. Like yeah you can start your first post trying to town/scumhunt but you have nothing to start off of and I’m not sure how you expect to do so. It’s not like you’re 3 days into a game with 3 days worth of info to analyze and we’re here talking about picking a number between 1-10. The only thing you could criticize is like how bloated a lot of the messages were but I dont think you should be inferring more than playful behavior in those posts |
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 10, 2023 1:53:09 GMT
(also i think the formatting issues are from trying to quote neo idk how to display the quotes properly :/)
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Post by Crespo on Jul 10, 2023 1:56:45 GMT
i really just have a hard time following this whole thing considering i think the starting point shouldn’t have been a starting point to begin with
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Post by Crespo on Jul 10, 2023 1:57:00 GMT
(also i think the formatting issues are from trying to quote neo idk how to display the quotes properly :/) wsg |
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 10, 2023 1:59:19 GMT
Criticising thread bloat/filler is valid and I agree it makes Neo look townie. At the same time I'm kind of wary of townreading for this though. The thread has to start somehow and I can't really expect anyone to have any substantial contribution if they're quite literally the first to post in the thread. You have the advantage of being able to criticise filler when you're not the one starting off the thread. So yeah, overall those initial interactions are NAI IMO but Neo comes out of it looking better. don’t know how it makes him townie? again it’s not like town was seriously off track and he was coming in to fix its direction. You could even argue the opposite by saying neos entrance was more opportunistic and trying to appear like he was helping town |
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 10, 2023 1:59:47 GMT
(also i think the formatting issues are from trying to quote neo idk how to display the quotes properly :/) wsg SUP |
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 10, 2023 2:01:09 GMT
i really just have a hard time following this whole thing considering i think the starting point shouldn’t have been a starting point to begin with as in Winsy and I shouldn’t have began the way we did or how this shouldnt have been scrutinized the way it did. either way I agree |
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Post by Crespo on Jul 10, 2023 2:02:24 GMT
i really just have a hard time following this whole thing considering i think the starting point shouldn’t have been a starting point to begin with actually i guess it makes sense on neo’s part if he wants to reaction bait and make the thread go somewhere but the only iffy response is winsy admitting they’re posting less (albeit for oog reasons) |
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Post by Crespo on Jul 10, 2023 2:03:20 GMT
i really just have a hard time following this whole thing considering i think the starting point shouldn’t have been a starting point to begin with as in Winsy and I shouldn’t have began the way we did or how this shouldnt have been scrutinized the way it did. either way I agree the latter, you guys were just basic convo from 2 people present at gamestart imo |
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 10, 2023 2:05:15 GMT
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 10, 2023 2:05:29 GMT
oops
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 10, 2023 2:06:38 GMT
theres no such thing as a perfect #1 post but if I had the thread to myself and another person I had yet to play forums with for the 10 or so minutes that they had before I joined I would more than likely be questioning them about mafia instead of playing guessing games that you can never win with a prize of whatever you got in your role pm (shitposting is contagious, like to get game started sooner than later, I'm a stick in the mud, etc) and yes I'll still die on the hill that while that while there was discussion about nothing generated there was no pressing the thread for reads as shown by their game progression of seemingly just continuing to post to post especially given the context they gave w/ their vote see above |
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 10, 2023 2:11:21 GMT
I’m at work and on mobile I will play soon I forget how to bold on mobile someeon vote cyan 4 me pls this just feels LAMIST. like look at me omg someone pweaseeeee help me the innocent lil townie. ddlc’s post felt fine and your read feels like an absolute reach of a statement |
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 10, 2023 2:17:07 GMT
This is how I'll be talking all game so you gotta deal with it ^_^ On a real note I just feel prompted to format my posts properly since it's forum based and I have the time to do that ! it's not how you're talking but how much thought and theory you are putting into your posts. what do we get from discussing the theory of how a mafia game starts. it's just so distanced from the actual words being said in the thread. feels relevant considering how a lot of the discussion right now is about the content of the opening of the mafia game |
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 10, 2023 2:25:24 GMT
as in Winsy and I shouldn’t have began the way we did or how this shouldnt have been scrutinized the way it did. either way I agree the latter, you guys were just basic convo from 2 people present at gamestart imo I mean yeah our convo wasn’t like absurdly atypical or something |
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 10, 2023 2:26:58 GMT
@crespo any gut reads so far?
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 10, 2023 2:28:19 GMT
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 10, 2023 2:28:33 GMT
(nice I did it)
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