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Post by ®➕➕ on Jul 10, 2023 16:44:58 GMT
3 things to start the first one being an actual pat on the back with people finally coming around on certain users just posting to post, and the second being soft rulesharking in me saying editing isn't allowed just double post and the third thing being you missed an afk in myan clouds
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kind of outed myself in saying that I was initially grasping for straws/reaction baiting when I responded to toni earlier but by all means am I quintupling down on whatever "read" I had on tinsy actually coming into fruition given both their half-playing and extremely reactionary gameplay(not always a bad thing)after their alleged attempt at "setting the tone"
despite constant prodding as to what his vote on me entailed (moreso the "make things interesting part") and ignoring any and all lines of questioning regarding that into voting someone who has made themselves low hanging fruit in clems I am absolutely not a fan of this slot
winsy > myan > clems (situational) is my d1
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if just to mention because he's apparently being sused out I like the akaka slot only because them grilling fame (I don't necessarily sr the slot) was a breath of fresh air in a gamestate that at the time felt as if you had so many of us being afraid of stepping on each others toes
to address the pisx post I mentioned lemming posting earlier and while you have every right to comment on whatever you want to comment on bringing up something that had been discussed plenty enough like your bringing something new to the table doesn't make for a good post AND to finally address your read on aka for reading fame I love the part where you ignored his posts where they expanded on what they meant instead of just generalizing fame as typing as "too smart" because I legitimately feel as if somewhat of a point was being made there ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
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Post by frogo on Jul 10, 2023 16:49:38 GMT
fwiw I think leaving clemens alive for the first day or two is very low risk since
1) they were last scum in the popcorn invitational and did not make it to the win
2) clemens and I were both town in SI and I was able to get a hard TR on them end of day 1 before they got nightkilled
clemens' current posting is indeed scummy, but they are ALWAYS scummy early d1. letting clemens breathe is the best play here imo.
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Post by ®➕➕ on Jul 10, 2023 16:51:46 GMT
fwiw I think leaving clemens alive for the first day or two is very low risk since 1) they were last scum in the popcorn invitational and did not make it to the win 2) clemens and I were both town in SI and I was able to get a hard TR on them end of day 1 before they got nightkilled clemens' current posting is indeed scummy, but they are ALWAYS scummy early d1. letting clemens breathe is the best play here imo. as much as I agree with you this sets a bad precedent in terms of gameplay but if just to mention I don't think he dies d1 because so many users are already weary on the vote given the damned if you do damned if you don't |
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Post by frogo on Jul 10, 2023 16:52:43 GMT
cyan and neo are probably town and if they're not then we can burden of proficiency check them later so it's fine
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Post by Crespo on Jul 10, 2023 17:00:03 GMT
fwiw I think leaving clemens alive for the first day or two is very low risk since 1) they were last scum in the popcorn invitational and did not make it to the win 2) clemens and I were both town in SI and I was able to get a hard TR on them end of day 1 before they got nightkilled clemens' current posting is indeed scummy, but they are ALWAYS scummy early d1. letting clemens breathe is the best play here imo. as much as I agree with you this sets a bad precedent in terms of gameplay but if just to mention I don't think he dies d1 because so many users are already weary on the vote given the damned if you do damned if you don't wouldn't it be better to get rid of a slot like this earlier on then, rather than to keep it? |
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Post by ®➕➕ on Jul 10, 2023 17:07:18 GMT
as much as I agree with you this sets a bad precedent in terms of gameplay but if just to mention I don't think he dies d1 because so many users are already weary on the vote given the damned if you do damned if you don't wouldn't it be better to get rid of a slot like this earlier on then, rather than to keep it? wishful thinking in that town as a collective can overcome slots like those and that they might shape up into something that isn't votebait if it comes to it I have no problem voting them though |
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Post by ihbst on Jul 10, 2023 18:06:19 GMT
surely the bad slots will out themselves later on
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Post by ihbst on Jul 10, 2023 18:06:35 GMT
if they scum
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Post by pisxel on Jul 10, 2023 20:43:26 GMT
I don't like the above post - I was asking (being confused), I also was stating what I was thinking ( bc what else do you do? Stay confused? bruh) - I didn't leave, I was always lurking there  - What stopped you from shifting onto me? - Can you not post walls? PLEASE AAAAA it's a forum game,,, so you read back and figure it out. no one's gonna interact with a message like that on a genuine level; i have never —nor you, nor anyone here— seen someone directly respond to a "no idea what [x] is about" post with an actual answer.. because it's not a question, it's a pointless one-liner that's meant to be looked over & bloat your posts with fake contribution. get up! ——— on a more serious note i have a bit of an issue with fame: Considering you're arguing against the opening filler, how else do you suggest they open the thread/how would you have started the thread if you had been post #1? Genuine question. You came into the thread with the advantage of someone starting the thread for you and came out of it looking somewhat townie. Your reads quite literally aren't possible unless they make those initial posts, so to argue that it didn't generate any discussion / they weren't pressing the thread for reads is kind of weird imo. That was clearly their intention IMO, given they responded to you voting them with "at least you're talking" and voting you back "just to make things interesting". I'd agree that declaring your vote as RVS/something to generate content is kind of meaningless/redundant since it eliminates any pressure you can apply with your vote. But still. this post could very easily be an attempt to salvage winsy's slot. and i'm going to say it's worth considering given that "winsy got neo to speak up by annoying him, i think winsy intentionally generated content out of neo" is a wack ass read when the post sequence looks like this:
Every post thus far is about someone's opening and another persons read of it. I feel like it's perfectly valid to ask how someone expects the thread to start/what they think people should open with if they're going to press someone for being filler-y/bloating the thread from posts 1-14. I don't really agree that it's distanced at all ngl. bless cyan talon for being a productive member of the game with good reads and actual analysis, though i'm hesitant to vote fame since they're actually providing some insight in their posts which is more than i can say compared to most of this pl rn. i will be keeping my eye on them & how their reads progress. i suggest everyone do the same, because this read/vote has value. |
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Post by pisxel on Jul 10, 2023 20:57:38 GMT
seems i missed two pages worth of messages. fml. ——— wouldn't it be better to get rid of a slot like this earlier on then, rather than to keep it? i'd rather see how their game develops given what others have said about clem being generally scum d1 in most games; if multiple people are pointing out that they're usually this scummy d1, a vote on them feels the same as randing a vote and hoping it hits scum. ——— what is a good reason to scumread someone then i'm not interacting with this bc i don't want to <3 go and reread fame's messages with the lens of 'they're just giving their reads & insight' and then we can put an end to this discussion. i'll give you the benefit of the doubt for trying to find a good vote d1 which is hard; probably shouldn't have been quick to vote you for it, used to the fast-pacedness of chatroom-mafia. if i see anymore bs reads i will be revoting you, though. ——— unvote akakakp |
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Post by pisxel on Jul 10, 2023 21:09:08 GMT
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ if just to mention because he's apparently being sused out I like the akaka slot only because them grilling fame (I don't necessarily sr the slot) was a breath of fresh air in a gamestate that at the time felt as if you had so many of us being afraid of stepping on each others toes to address the pisx post I mentioned lemming posting earlier and while you have every right to comment on whatever you want to comment on bringing up something that had been discussed plenty enough like your bringing something new to the table doesn't make for a good post AND to finally address your read on aka for reading fame I love the part where you ignored his posts where they expanded on what they meant instead of just generalizing fame as typing as "too smart" because I legitimately feel as if somewhat of a point was being made there ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ understood; can you clarify who you're referring to @ the bolded part? confused on if you're talking about me ignoring aka's posts, or aka ignoring fame's posts. |
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Post by frogo on Jul 10, 2023 21:29:57 GMT
really dislike that reaction from pisx but it's so ballsy that i have to TR her. if they are scum they are just asking for me to vote/tunnel them and I was definitely thinking about it. can we get a votecount mymemoryisbad |
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Post by iavh on Jul 10, 2023 22:07:49 GMT
is the page 1 goofy ahh guess the number to be taken seriously or what? I don't think so, note that I am looking for some softs from winsy there if anywhat benefits come from you pointing out a potential soft I haven't pointed out anything have I for now the stuff I know are in my personal notes |
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Jul 10, 2023 22:09:31 GMT
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Post by frogo on Jul 10, 2023 22:16:23 GMT
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Post by iavh on Jul 10, 2023 22:20:51 GMT
I'm now being asked to get up right
I just did, and I'm not feeling well, someone get me a lemon tea (not cannibalism!)
reads: fame and neo know of each other's roles (the one I am more confident on), I guess I'll wait to stop being the limbait (not likely) to see as being the limbait means that people look at your posts
I just realised that the afk population... is massive. So many people not using votes. On the flipside, if they used their votes there will def be a chance I'll get smacked into oblivion d1, the second day of this game /shrug
whoever pointed out I'm a punching bag, thank you.
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Post by Crespo on Jul 10, 2023 22:24:10 GMT
can i vote clemen again
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Post by iavh on Jul 10, 2023 22:28:36 GMT
of course you can! be sure to add "un" before "vote"! |
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Post by Fame on Jul 10, 2023 23:07:43 GMT
I'm gonna post my final thoughts before I sleep. I don't really see or feel the need to keep the Clems slot in the game or consider them less of a viable D1 vote solely due to "well Clem is always scummy D1". If anything, it's Winsy/Clem interactions in this D1 that can justify not voting Clem for the time being.
Also for as much as I appreciate that pisx is reading my posts from a town pov, I think their recent posts are kind of circular. They went from saying that my posts were giving insight/reads and calling out Aka for saying otherwise, and then sorta backed down to instead applaud somebody else for advancing the gamestate with reads/insight. I think I would've appreciated more if they interacted with my follow up to Cyan's question (my thoughts on Winsy's slot atp and what I said about Winsy/Clem interactions) rather than flip flopping between who they think the most valuable town is or whatever.
Also I don't really know what to gauge from Myan's posts if I'm honest.
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Post by iavh on Jul 10, 2023 23:20:05 GMT
I don't really see or feel the need to keep the Clems slot in the game or consider them less of a viable D1 vote solely due to "well Clem is always scummy D1". . this is wrong. I'm ALWAYS SCUMMY |
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Post by pisxel on Jul 10, 2023 23:51:29 GMT
I'm gonna post my final thoughts before I sleep. I don't really see or feel the need to keep the Clems slot in the game or consider them less of a viable D1 vote solely due to "well Clem is always scummy D1". If anything, it's Winsy/Clem interactions in this D1 that can justify not voting Clem for the time being. Also for as much as I appreciate that pisx is reading my posts from a town pov, I think their recent posts are kind of circular. They went from saying that my posts were giving insight/reads and calling out Aka for saying otherwise, and then sorta backed down to instead applaud somebody else for advancing the gamestate with reads/insight. I think I would've appreciated more if they interacted with my follow up to Cyan's question (my thoughts on Winsy's slot atp and what I said about Winsy/Clem interactions) rather than flip flopping between who they think the most valuable town is or whatever. Also I don't really know what to gauge from Myan's posts if I'm honest. never backed down; my read on aka's read still stands, it's not a good one, i'm just no longer VOTING for it because the vote was initially a kneejerk reaction when it shouldn't have been. also didn't interact with your follow up because i don't feel the need to. if i agree with a post and have nothing else to add, i'm not going to quote it and be like "yay this read is so good!", that's silly! ( Clouds .. :webothcrode:) ——— anyways: reads | inac, to get them out of the way: 2) typicalbastard
> has not said a single word. yay! 3) lindauna
> has not said a single word. yay! 12) slowthepoke
> has not said a single word. yay! 14) latiosnumbers
> has not said a single word. yay! | inac... 6) Hadu✰dee
> has not said a single word. yay! however, this seems kinda like how they operate in psmaf games w little posts which is no excuse, but, when they're active, their reads can be v insightful; as such, i wld prefer if we left hadu alone and let them blossom when they finally decide to show even if it's obnoxious to do so. | actual reads in playerlist order 1) Crespo> town. no other questions thanks. 4) I'm not iamveryhappy
> scumlean/mostly null slot that needs time to develop based on what others have said about how they operate each game. > i will say though, i DO agree with Crespo 's " disagree it comes off as 'look at me i'm tryna read into people's lines to help!!' vibe" read, and that sort of fake activity that they've been displaying needs to be stopped or i'll have to vote them. 5) Cyan Talon> town lean for calling out bad "filler reads" from early on d1, like thank you for taking a stand? +++ their fame vote is understandable, but i don't like it 7) ddlcfan69> all of their messages are filler which is so fun like im giddy & jumping up and down. at least they voted!(?) null, this seems like typical trollish ddlc rn who's like probably busy irl? if i had to guess. 8) fame
> w my somewhat-extensive knowledge on how they act on chatroom-mafia, specifically with regards to their in-depthness & how paranoid they are about other town slots... this is town! next. 9) ihbst> has said like 3 lines and they were all useless asf and/or baseless so idk what to do w this slot. shocker. Scumlean 10) MyanMario> literally where did they go. scumreading them for being semiactive when game was at its most unimportant stage yet ignoring it when game is actually progressing & when no one is pressing them for anything (IN GENERAL. do not @ me with "well [x] person actually said [y] about them" bc that read clearly has not developed at all beyond that considering the lack of votes on them) 11) fingerlings> don't know what to make of this slot. be more townie. 13) winsytinsy> has kinda disappeared? why did their activity plummet after their filler got called out & any messages since then have been v short and substance-less; would appreciate if everyone watched out for this bc if this keeps up it cld be scum-indicative. 15) akakakp> null for me rn? they're just kinda saying whatever and it's working i guess. gun to my head i have to pick an alignment for them? town, regrettably. 17) Clouds> got no read on this to be quiet honest. their game has been very null for me in terms of pmeta; if i had to actually analyze their messages, most likely a town slot? they haven't done anything explicitly scummy from what i'm seeing rn reading thru their posts, so i'll go with that for now and see how they start acting. 18) neo> town for being so visible and trying to progress the game; scum would let the bad d1 activity sit & brew to use it as a read later on to push a vote, so i'm glad they're doing all that they're doing now rather than later. tldr proactive town member yay! ——— TLDR, myanmario needs to get up off the floor, and these inacs need to actually play the game. vote myanmario |
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Post by pisxel on Jul 10, 2023 23:52:17 GMT
ugh formatting fucked itself up, whatever; format for above post is:
#) player
> my read
and not the other way around
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 11, 2023 0:20:11 GMT
k some thoughts here before i'm out for a while: - cresposting is fine, he's more active than i expected early on i guess. i tend to read toni as null early on most of the time and i think i'm landing somewhere in that range again or slightly on the townlean side. he's shown he's taking the time to try to understand the motives behind someone posting something which i think bodes well for him - akakakp opener was not great and aka/pisx has a decent chance of being t/s in some direction i think, as does winsy/fingerlings just based on how they both weighted their presence most heavily at daystart and then kinda disappeared afterwards. aka/winsy are probably not s/s paired with the way aka defended winsy in their opener, but i don't like fingerlings making like 1 post taking a stance against aka and then not exploring their thoughts on aka after, that reeks of potential fake distancing - afk so far: tb, lindauna, hadu, ihbst, stp, latios #s. you're probably gonna wind up having at least a few town (and possibly sk) in this list just by nature of how these games are & the level of responsibility wolves often feel to get something down early and not be the lagging strand of the team. this is not a tr for any of them and hopefully we'll see some activity from here soon, just something to keep in mind if this game goes in the direction of "chop the afks" and it becomes clear it's a result of wolves pouncing on the opportunity to dominate thread due to low game activity as it stands i'd vote fingerlings, akakakp, ddlc over anyone else vote Fingerlingsthe last forums game I played almost all of the scum were afk, and from personal experience afk isn’t really indicative of alignment, so I’d slightly caution against that saying that—chopping the afks can be a valid strategy if we suspect scum lurking and generally I wouldn’t call it opportunistic at all |
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 11, 2023 0:27:10 GMT
ddlc’s post felt fine and your read feels like an absolute reach of a statement us having different reads does not mean i'm reaching ofc but after someone says they’re busy/can’t reply and is pretty clearly joking, I wouldn’t automatically conclude they’re being lamist. What I meant by reaching is that you took a rather benign statement and pushed a read out of something that’s not really there |
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 11, 2023 0:33:19 GMT
i get the read on clem but also like my issue with it is just doesn't clem behave like this as either alignment? (hence my somewhat policy vote as soon as i realised this game wasn't gonna be different for them) i have played one game with clem. they were scum, i was town, i got them smacked out d1 for pulling the exact same shit they're doing now obviously it's not good enough for pmeta but i am going to strictly call them less than town for it I mean I wouldn’t be expecting him to be scum acting the same way he got caught with last time. Hope I know clems playstyle enough to say he’s a townlean this game |
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