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Post by iavh on Jul 11, 2023 0:39:23 GMT
i have played one game with clem. they were scum, i was town, i got them smacked out d1 for pulling the exact same shit they're doing now obviously it's not good enough for pmeta but i am going to strictly call them less than town for it I mean I wouldn’t be expecting him to be scum acting the same way he got caught with last time. Hope I know clems playstyle enough to say he’s a townlean this game don't. what I like to call my playstyle is: Roll a dice! it's like random, more like how I feel that day |
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Post by iavh on Jul 11, 2023 0:40:02 GMT
I mean I wouldn’t be expecting him to be scum acting the same way he got caught with last time. Hope I know clems playstyle enough to say he’s a townlean this game don't. what I like to call my playstyle is: Roll a dice! it's like random, more like how I feel that day also known as both cyan and fing are wrong with pmeta |
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 11, 2023 0:40:29 GMT
k some thoughts here before i'm out for a while: - cresposting is fine, he's more active than i expected early on i guess. i tend to read toni as null early on most of the time and i think i'm landing somewhere in that range again or slightly on the townlean side. he's shown he's taking the time to try to understand the motives behind someone posting something which i think bodes well for him - akakakp opener was not great and aka/pisx has a decent chance of being t/s in some direction i think, as does winsy/fingerlings just based on how they both weighted their presence most heavily at daystart and then kinda disappeared afterwards. aka/winsy are probably not s/s paired with the way aka defended winsy in their opener, but i don't like fingerlings making like 1 post taking a stance against aka and then not exploring their thoughts on aka after, that reeks of potential fake distancing - afk so far: tb, lindauna, hadu, ihbst, stp, latios #s. you're probably gonna wind up having at least a few town (and possibly sk) in this list just by nature of how these games are & the level of responsibility wolves often feel to get something down early and not be the lagging strand of the team. this is not a tr for any of them and hopefully we'll see some activity from here soon, just something to keep in mind if this game goes in the direction of "chop the afks" and it becomes clear it's a result of wolves pouncing on the opportunity to dominate thread due to low game activity as it stands i'd vote fingerlings, akakakp, ddlc over anyone else vote Fingerlingswe have a decent chance of being t/s over one post pisx made about me? where did the read on fingerlings come from? seems like you are voting fingerlings for thinking i am scum? why are you not just voting me??? nothing about this makes sense to me adding on to this but I never made strong enough suspicions (if any) that could lead me to distance akakakp in the future and I didn’t push my “stance” further because I liked everything else he was saying and didn’t want to sus him on mostly non-substantive arguments |
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 11, 2023 0:42:08 GMT
I mean I wouldn’t be expecting him to be scum acting the same way he got caught with last time. Hope I know clems playstyle enough to say he’s a townlean this game don't. what I like to call my playstyle is: Roll a dice! it's like random, more like how I feel that day well just hoping you’re town this game it would make you a lot easier to work with |
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Post by Crespo on Jul 11, 2023 0:48:00 GMT
Sorry I'm not directly quoting you @ Cyan I just suck with the formatting so I don't wanna make a post that's like 10x bigger than needed. To answer your question: is winsy tinsy more likely to be town or scum? Admittedly I'm flip flopping between the two. I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt and look at both possibilities (are they genuinely behaving in a way that's scum-like? or are they being jumped because people want to towntell themselves by jumping on them?). I do feel like there's hypocrisy in Winsy scumreading Clem for being unserious though. Because both slots are technically guilty of the same thing. Reads as a pot calling the kettle black type situation. I'd be more inclined to read them as town if they were avidly engaging with everything that came as a result of their opening, but they've kinda fallen back and landed on a hypocritical read of Clem. So now I'm like, you generated the discussion you supposedly wanted with your opening but the only read you have is "I don't like this person's opening" when there's at least 3 slots with enough content to produce a more well-informed read? Harder to read the intentions behind their "lets make things interesting" shtick when everything that came afterwards resulted in 0 reads from them on the slots that actually interacted with them the most. I'm leaning towards reading the Winsy vs Clem interactions from a SVT pov because of this. Granted, I think the Clem slot is super weak too. I'll probably end up putting my vote on either of these slots unless things change. That's honestly fair, so I'm just going to put out a read on everyone who's talked so far still waiting on this when you got time btw |
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 11, 2023 0:50:55 GMT
responding to the last neo post (since I can’t quote it and what I hope will be the last post on this)—what I’m saying is that you shouldn’t be basing your reads on mostly page 1 opening posts but every thread has to start somewhere and you don’t have any information very early on to discuss or analyze mafia reads. I was also part of the discussed content and thought it would be good to make a post about why I did what I did
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Post by Crespo on Jul 11, 2023 0:54:43 GMT
upon first read of thread did not like akakakp’s posts, but they’re not actually bad i like the clouds questioning just the entrance was extremely iffy
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Post by Crespo on Jul 11, 2023 0:56:05 GMT
really dislike that reaction from pisx but it's so ballsy that i have to TR her. if they are scum they are just asking for me to vote/tunnel them and I was definitely thinking about it. can we get a votecount mymemoryisbad but also the first half of this message reads as conceding in the interactions with pisx to just end it and move on, to avoid thread pressure |
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 11, 2023 0:56:29 GMT
I don't like myanmario posts so far, it doesn't really add anything surely the bad slots will out themselves later on ihbst is the other person (alongside clem) with a unique playstyle and if we’re using pmeta ibhst is usually very carefree and right now he’s being a lot more careful and posting relatively “safe” observations—feels like he’s compelled to be more restrictive in what he’s saying, which is a contrast with how he usually blurts what he thinks out loud. radar for now |
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Post by Crespo on Jul 11, 2023 0:59:37 GMT
oh deadline is today
i’m staying on Clem and just praying we get some good subs for 0 posters, i literally see no reason to take a shot in the dark over slots we already have reads on especially when we could get some easily readable slots or smthn
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Post by Crespo on Jul 11, 2023 1:00:41 GMT
I don't like myanmario posts so far, it doesn't really add anything surely the bad slots will out themselves later on ihbst is the other person (alongside clem) with a unique playstyle and if we’re using pmeta ibhst is usually very carefree and right now he’s being a lot more careful and posting relatively “safe” observations—feels like he’s compelled to be more restrictive in what he’s saying, which is a contrast with how he usually blurts what he thinks out loud. radar for now +1 this isn’t their town game from popcorn |
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Post by frogo on Jul 11, 2023 1:21:49 GMT
really dislike that reaction from pisx but it's so ballsy that i have to TR her. if they are scum they are just asking for me to vote/tunnel them and I was definitely thinking about it. can we get a votecount mymemoryisbad but also the first half of this message reads as conceding in the interactions with pisx to just end it and move on, to avoid thread pressure why would I continue to clash with someone who I think is town |
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Post by frogo on Jul 11, 2023 1:24:54 GMT
also I’m 80% sure DL is noon tomorrow. we should start to get big wagons though so we are not scrambling. down to just go for ihbst since I still think Clemens should be kept around for the reasons I’ve stated and I have 0 expectations to get any good content out of ihbst
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 11, 2023 1:25:57 GMT
8) fame
> w my somewhat-extensive knowledge on how they act on chatroom-mafia, specifically with regards to their in-depthness & how paranoid they are about other town slots... this is town! next. What about fame’s post makes you think they’re very paranoid? They’ve been in depth but I don’t see any of their reads as being outside the gamestate or burning hot—they’ve been more disciplined than agitated. Also paranoia can be great when they’ve been multiple town misvotes that cause you to reassess previously-read townslots, but none of this has happened yet and there hasn’t been any flips that could cause you to think this less than 48 hours in. I’m inferring that you think the paranoia is warranted when you mention how fame’s paranoia makes them town, which makes me think there’s a mismatch between how we see the game right now considering there’s been no information to think this way |
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 11, 2023 1:28:32 GMT
also I’m 80% sure DL is noon tomorrow. we should start to get big wagons though so we are not scrambling. down to just go for ihbst since I still think Clemens should be kept around for the reasons I’ve stated and I have 0 expectations to get any good content out of ihbst I would be down for a ihbst wagon considering I would also like to keep clem around and i don’t have any glaring suspicions on any of the other posters we’ve seen today Unvote typicalbastard
Vote ihbst |
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 11, 2023 1:29:14 GMT
I’ll try to be around tonight and until the noon dl tomorrow
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 11, 2023 1:31:33 GMT
8) fame
> w my somewhat-extensive knowledge on how they act on chatroom-mafia, specifically with regards to their in-depthness & how paranoid they are about other town slots... this is town! next. What about fame’s post makes you think they’re very paranoid? They’ve been in depth but I don’t see any of their reads as being outside the gamestate or burning hot—they’ve been more disciplined than agitated. Also paranoia can be great when they’ve been multiple town misvotes that cause you to reassess previously-read townslots, but none of this has happened yet and there hasn’t been any flips that could cause you to think this less than 48 hours in. I’m inferring that you think the paranoia is warranted when you mention how fame’s paranoia makes them town, which makes me think there’s a mismatch between how we see the game right now considering there’s been no information to think this way noting that yes, it’s always beneficial to question the group consensus |
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Post by frogo on Jul 11, 2023 1:39:43 GMT
VOTE: ihbst
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Post by iavh on Jul 11, 2023 1:50:01 GMT
o day ends in 2h 10 mins
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Post by fingerlings on Jul 11, 2023 1:53:16 GMT
no in 14h (noon) I’m pretty sure |
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Post by iavh on Jul 11, 2023 2:06:47 GMT
and of course I miss it
sad
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Post by ®➕➕ on Jul 11, 2023 2:10:00 GMT
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ if just to mention because he's apparently being sused out I like the akaka slot only because them grilling fame (I don't necessarily sr the slot) was a breath of fresh air in a gamestate that at the time felt as if you had so many of us being afraid of stepping on each others toes to address the pisx post I mentioned lemming posting earlier and while you have every right to comment on whatever you want to comment on bringing up something that had been discussed plenty enough like your bringing something new to the table doesn't make for a good post AND to finally address your read on aka for reading fame I love the part where you ignored his posts where they expanded on what they meant instead of just generalizing fame as typing as "too smart" because I legitimately feel as if somewhat of a point was being made there ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ understood; can you clarify who you're referring to @ the bolded part? confused on if you're talking about me ignoring aka's posts, or aka ignoring fame's posts. the former |
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Post by pisxel on Jul 11, 2023 2:28:02 GMT
8) fame
> w my somewhat-extensive knowledge on how they act on chatroom-mafia, specifically with regards to their in-depthness & how paranoid they are about other town slots... this is town! next. What about fame’s post makes you think they’re very paranoid? They’ve been in depth but I don’t see any of their reads as being outside the gamestate or burning hot—they’ve been more disciplined than agitated. Also paranoia can be great when they’ve been multiple town misvotes that cause you to reassess previously-read townslots, but none of this has happened yet and there hasn’t been any flips that could cause you to think this less than 48 hours in. I’m inferring that you think the paranoia is warranted when you mention how fame’s paranoia makes them town, which makes me think there’s a mismatch between how we see the game right now considering there’s been no information to think this way the general way they've been operating the game & clearly being very wary of how they're interacting with other people is very much so akin to how they act in games as town. see : them questioning my read on them as town/not scum for a seemingly strange, at least fmpov, reason - it's likely that they'll question intentions of other players townreading them v publicly and that's what i'm referring to |
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Post by ®➕➕ on Jul 11, 2023 2:28:28 GMT
double posting because i finally read everything don't even respond to it at all since you don't sr him @pixsel
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Post by cyan on Jul 11, 2023 2:38:01 GMT
on a more serious note i have a bit of an issue with fame: this post could very easily be an attempt to salvage winsy's slot. and i'm going to say it's worth considering given that "winsy got neo to speak up by annoying him, i think winsy intentionally generated content out of neo" is a wack ass read when the post sequence looks like this:
and on a less scummy but equally icky note, there's this angle of discussion that is being continued for reasons that have jack all to do with who is scum.bless cyan talon for being a productive member of the game with good reads and actual analysis, though i'm hesitant to vote fame since they're actually providing some insight in their posts which is more than i can say compared to most of this pl rn. i will be keeping my eye on them & how their reads progress. i suggest everyone do the same, because this read/vote has value. as a bit of a p.s. i'm not actually all that big on the fame read. the winsy partner idea is half-dead at this point and i do think there's a non-zero possibility of fame being genuine with their contribution; it's just very weak in terms of quality, and in a way that might not but also might be intentional I'm now being asked to get up right I just did, and I'm not feeling well, someone get me a lemon tea (not cannibalism!) reads: fame and neo know of each other's roles (the one I am more confident on), I guess I'll wait to stop being the limbait (not likely) to see as being the limbait means that people look at your posts I just realised that the afk population... is massive. So many people not using votes. On the flipside, if they used their votes there will def be a chance I'll get smacked into oblivion d1, the second day of this game /shrug whoever pointed out I'm a punching bag, thank you. you know i'm glad that you dropped some sort of interesting read but you should really work on expanding your thoughts k some thoughts here before i'm out for a while: - cresposting is fine, he's more active than i expected early on i guess. i tend to read toni as null early on most of the time and i think i'm landing somewhere in that range again or slightly on the townlean side. he's shown he's taking the time to try to understand the motives behind someone posting something which i think bodes well for him - akakakp opener was not great and aka/pisx has a decent chance of being t/s in some direction i think, as does winsy/fingerlings just based on how they both weighted their presence most heavily at daystart and then kinda disappeared afterwards. aka/winsy are probably not s/s paired with the way aka defended winsy in their opener, but i don't like fingerlings making like 1 post taking a stance against aka and then not exploring their thoughts on aka after, that reeks of potential fake distancing - afk so far: tb, lindauna, hadu, ihbst, stp, latios #s. you're probably gonna wind up having at least a few town (and possibly sk) in this list just by nature of how these games are & the level of responsibility wolves often feel to get something down early and not be the lagging strand of the team. this is not a tr for any of them and hopefully we'll see some activity from here soon, just something to keep in mind if this game goes in the direction of "chop the afks" and it becomes clear it's a result of wolves pouncing on the opportunity to dominate thread due to low game activity as it stands i'd vote fingerlings, akakakp, ddlc over anyone else vote Fingerlingsthe last forums game I played almost all of the scum were afk, and from personal experience afk isn’t really indicative of alignment, so I’d slightly caution against that saying that—chopping the afks can be a valid strategy if we suspect scum lurking and generally I wouldn’t call it opportunistic at all something kind of just irks me with how you're choosing to respond to the one least substantial point of the post where you're being voted. (if it's not clear you = fingerlings) in any case i do want to note that aka's recent activity has been very lackluster so clouds may be onto something with the distancing bit; full-blown confrontation between scum is a rare form of distancing nowadays and i usually see more scum A being hyper-aggressive and scum B being "eh." |
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