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Post by Clouds on Dec 28, 2023 2:45:43 GMT
By the looks of things, it was Myan trying to push a wagon and distarct attention, so I'm much more inclined to townread Fame at this point this is the reference point for the above, this post does not sit well with me at all for clarification here -- it doesn't make sense for yoshman to townread fame for this, the wagon myan was pushing was on prod |
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Post by Clouds on Dec 28, 2023 2:47:01 GMT
if peng town, i'd hedge my bets on 1, maybe 2 in yoshman + micromorphic
that being said there are some other slots that desperately need sorting here like pisxel and schiavetto that i need to figure out first
hopefully there will be more to assist with that soon tm
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Post by AligningSuperSanta on Dec 28, 2023 2:49:03 GMT
this is just bad honestly, not to kill morale but we need to do better AligningSuperSanta why do you think you survived the night despite being mason? yoshman8 did you not have any opinion on where to vote? cause maf listened gto me and really i have no usefullness naymore because my role doesnt do anything. its just nothing |
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Post by Clouds on Dec 28, 2023 2:51:08 GMT
cause maf listened gto me and really i have no usefullness naymore because my role doesnt do anything. its just nothing what do you mean mafia listened to you? |
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Post by AligningSuperSanta on Dec 28, 2023 2:51:58 GMT
cause maf listened gto me and really i have no usefullness naymore because my role doesnt do anything. its just nothing what do you mean mafia listened to you? somewhere in this forum i told maf to kill stp instead of me |
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Post by AligningSuperSanta on Dec 28, 2023 2:54:03 GMT
Ayy scum, just a proposition. Can U kill stop before U know ok. And why kill me anyways. My role is kinda useless and can keep me in volo to manipulate me. said it right here (as a joke) |
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Post by AligningSuperSanta on Dec 28, 2023 2:54:21 GMT
auto correct ruined the sentecne
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Post by iavh on Dec 28, 2023 3:51:07 GMT
I’m still slightly inclined to vote the bg claim, I can’t quite see it really being used in a cs game as a protective role was thinking of jk or doc
But then I’m thinking that if I’m wrong I look stupid, thats the only thing keeping me back from voting peng so far
Again there’s aligning
Correct me if I’m wrong but was the pubclaim d1 real or not
Again looks like a red herring if not, I’m thinking that mason!aligning actually doesn’t do that as masons are quite vulnerable
Wishing kliff actually claimed but sure
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Post by iavh on Dec 28, 2023 3:55:41 GMT
At this moment flush is prob looking at this and going “why is clems mechsolving again”
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Post by C7 on Dec 28, 2023 4:40:47 GMT
i also received the supposed amnesiac result that cuddz is town, THIS most recent night, not N1 asked for confirmation on whether or not it's verification of alignment and since spiderz was useless in explaining it, it's just a result that says " cuddleszz is town" and nothing else Would anybody else like to claim their results? I hope whoever knows more about this situation speaks up because it's important to the plot |
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Post by C7 on Dec 28, 2023 4:42:37 GMT
Also why did y'all vote prod last night that was so obviously town with how myan interacted with them (I could be stupid)
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Post by AligningSuperSanta on Dec 28, 2023 7:39:15 GMT
I’m still slightly inclined to vote the bg claim, I can’t quite see it really being used in a cs game as a protective role was thinking of jk or doc But then I’m thinking that if I’m wrong I look stupid, thats the only thing keeping me back from voting peng so far Again there’s aligning Correct me if I’m wrong but was the pubclaim d1 real or not Again looks like a red herring if not, I’m thinking that mason!aligning actually doesn’t do that as masons are quite vulnerable Wishing kliff actually claimed but sure real |
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Post by yoshman8 on Dec 28, 2023 8:59:13 GMT
this is the reference point for the above, this post does not sit well with me at all for clarification here -- it doesn't make sense for yoshman to townread fame for this, the wagon myan was pushing was on prod I never said Myan was pushing Fame. I mean that Myan immediatley agreed with whatever Fame was voting, which seemed to me like trying to add extra pressure to a town wagon |
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Post by C7 on Dec 28, 2023 17:49:41 GMT
Wakeup wakey time for murder
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Dec 29, 2023 0:31:33 GMT
man i feel like this current page is just emblematic of so much of what's made even looking at this game such a drag
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Post by C7 on Dec 29, 2023 0:36:03 GMT
man i feel like this current page is just emblematic of so much of what's made even looking at this game such a drag Mood, Game can not exist if No One Participates and I need everybody to arrive, look at their results, and see to it that mafia dies accordingly |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Dec 29, 2023 0:39:17 GMT
i'm gonna chop out some posts over the next hour or so getting into things but i genuinely think this game just stalls out and goes into wheelspinning (pictured above) if some things aren't addressed & i am in absolutely no rush to rehash H23G2. so i guess bear with me? a lot of it i think goes back to what i was thinking the other day abt towncasing but i think just more fundamental to even that is What It Means To Be Playing A CS and it's one of those things where i think this just becomes mindnumbingly awful to sit through if we don't get at it now so that's pretty much top prio for me
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Post by C7 on Dec 29, 2023 0:55:44 GMT
Btw Cuddlez, you have been investigated by 2 different people who I'm sure are not investigative roles, I think it is safe to claim if you are involved with that
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Post by C7 on Dec 29, 2023 0:58:47 GMT
If anybody else has an inspect they did not participate in, also claim that
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Post by C7 on Dec 29, 2023 1:37:08 GMT
Instead of voting on who gets voted out today I think it would be more productive to vote how long day/night cycles should last because yall do not seem to respect time enough for this game to run on 48/24 and it should be 24/24
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Post by AligningSuperSanta on Dec 29, 2023 1:44:14 GMT
Instead of voting on who gets voted out today I think it would be more productive to vote how long day/night cycles should last because yall do not seem to respect time enough for this game to run on 48/24 and it should be 24/24 ur in very inactive times tho. As an Australian I get that a lot but it's better to make it more suitable for most countries but I'm here so maybe reads and I'll listen  |
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Post by AligningSuperSanta on Dec 29, 2023 1:48:00 GMT
Instead of voting on who gets voted out today I think it would be more productive to vote how long day/night cycles should last because yall do not seem to respect time enough for this game to run on 48/24 and it should be 24/24 and plus it's like night form for most countries rn |
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Post by C7 on Dec 29, 2023 1:49:11 GMT
Instead of voting on who gets voted out today I think it would be more productive to vote how long day/night cycles should last because yall do not seem to respect time enough for this game to run on 48/24 and it should be 24/24 ur in very inactive times tho. As an Australian I get that a lot but it's better to make it more suitable for most countries but I'm here so maybe reads and I'll listen You are not the problem the 10 people who have not posted yet are the problem |
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Post by C7 on Dec 29, 2023 1:53:14 GMT
Instead of voting on who gets voted out today I think it would be more productive to vote how long day/night cycles should last because yall do not seem to respect time enough for this game to run on 48/24 and it should be 24/24 and plus it's like night form for most countries rn This literally begs the question of where the hell was everybody during the day to almost let 2 ~8 hour spaces between posts happen |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Dec 29, 2023 1:54:00 GMT
i want to be super clear that CSes are literally Just Mafia, but i think a perennial issue with closed setup play is that people walk in thinking "well it's a closed setup, anything could happen!!" when really, all it means is that -the host has determined which roles are in the setup and which are not -the players are uninformed of which roles have been determined by the host &unless otherwise stated, we can presume that it's not bastard (i.e., host isn't lying to players, be it via mechanics, role pms, etc.) problem is, when you entertain that first mindset, where CS is tantamount to anything-goes, you inevitably end up shooting yourself in the foot because you stop getting at the meat of the actual social deduction element of mafia - where you're collaboratively working to sort out who's scum, who's town, and why - and start mediating that kind of thinking through hostmeta, giving undue weight to conjecture surrounding the circumstances of a specific game's implementation, or just otherwise letting imagination run wild. It's privileging Wild Mass Guessing/What Ifs, in a way that gets you things like two days of touch-and-go talk around the existence of a mafia mason that never needed to be discussed in the first place [x], tempting but ultimately narrow musings on what roles scum may or may not have [x] or any number of deadend solve-routes. It's how we kneecap ourselves. but on top of that, in no small part due to the above, when you leave space for that kind of CS approach, you make it that much harder to work within the bounds of *actual* sound mechanical play by fostering a game environment that's more habitable to things like wolves substituting speculation (which is a component of solving) for solving in and of itself (that same speculation accompanied by analysis/meaningful motion toward *affirming* information, instead of just guessing around it) or eleventh hour roleclaims whose reliability is curbed by the simple fact that regardless of validity, roles aren't intrinsically alignment-bearing outside of OSes/most semi-OSes, least of all when players have no time to actually process them. again, it just adds this whole other hurdle to the central goal of Determining Who Is Town and Who Is Not and Subsequently Eliminating the Latter |
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