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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 5:21:17 GMT
i mean yeah i don't get him egging on others to vote me either but does him not placing the vote in addition to ftf's vote truly make him confscum? what is he even gaining from baiting his wolf partner in thread to vote another town? maybe it's a little worse than he didn't follow it up with a vote too cause it could've been seen as keeping options open or something in case you voted elsewhere but by this point in the night it was clear i was going to be voted and also it was clear you were never voting gary so gary not voting would've had to be because he thought you or i could vote ftf which... meh... possible Its far too risky for scum to make any kind of changes such as those that close to deadline tho. Had they done so even if the vote fell on one of them, I think we'd be able to vote the other the next day yeah i mean i know mafia's hand was forced there that's exactly why i decided to not vote any of you, momentum was swinging towards me being voted so sitting back was my best option |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:22:17 GMT
that is also coming from a point of view such as my own where i would not care if someone said my family would all die in a car accident if i voted them but that's just me and i get why the vast majority of people would be deterred by that Yeah but there are different types of ATE and I don't think that is the type that would ever be useful in a game, it's kinda just for immature people |
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 5:22:28 GMT
Clouds im ignoring those two until further notice, idt anything productive is coming from it
where's your head at
think i'm deciding the town between edj & gary soz not locking you in as mafia necessarily but just... not feeling like your presence as of late has been that of my villager partner |
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 14, 2024 5:22:34 GMT
i'll let this bake cause there's nothing stopping edj from trying to go all out and become the "lockdown" and get day 1'd as mafia, stakes are higher regardless of whether or not some of it reads as genuine Don't worry man I won't manipulate this game I'm gonna be 100% truthful, ask me anything There's nothing stopping any player from doing this? Yeah but it's different when it comes from me I don't think its a poor one. I do it myself all the time. I just hate that people often fall for whoever screams the loudest must be town It's different when I do it I can't wait for you ego to come toppling down on you |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 14, 2024 5:23:15 GMT
Clouds im ignoring those two until further notice, idt anything productive is coming from it
where's your head at
think i'm deciding the town between edj & gary soz not locking you in as mafia necessarily but just... not feeling like your presence as of late has been that of my villager partner
why
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 14, 2024 5:23:51 GMT
think i'm deciding the town between edj & gary soz not locking you in as mafia necessarily but just... not feeling like your presence as of late has been that of my villager partner
why
you vote wrong and then we're at f3
if this is how you currently think then can i trust you to re-eval
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:24:05 GMT
Clouds im ignoring those two until further notice, idt anything productive is coming from it
where's your head at
think i'm deciding the town between edj & gary soz not locking you in as mafia necessarily but just... not feeling like your presence as of late has been that of my villager partner Wait really? So you think that Gary could actually be town? You're saying that you think FTF and I could be a pair? Why is that |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:25:14 GMT
further to that
you vote wrong and then we're at f3
if this is how you currently think then can i trust you to re-eval
I still feel like this game is both of you two vs me so I don't think an f3 is hard to win since the interactions will show everything |
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 14, 2024 5:26:40 GMT
You are living rent free in my head rn and I despise it
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 14, 2024 5:26:41 GMT
further to that
you vote wrong and then we're at f3
if this is how you currently think then can i trust you to re-eval
I still feel like this game is both of you two vs me so I don't think an f3 is hard to win since the interactions will show everything
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 14, 2024 5:27:22 GMT
yes we know from your "pov" that the people not named clouds are scum to you thank you edje
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 5:27:40 GMT
i want to take a second to dive into edj's "solve me vs ftf" gambit because i think it's ultra useful in reaching a solve here
let's say he's not town for a minute and look at what he'd be doing with both players as his partner:
- if partnered with gary, he's suddenly forcing a vote on t!ftf and essentially ending his game by binding a solve to himself and ftf first for no reason
- if partnered with ftf, he's switching away from voting gary because he suddenly can't vote gary as gary is town and that would end the game
i'm sorry but scenario #1 is just ridiculous, i find it hard to believe edj & gary are partnered off of this, there is zero gain for that team whatsoever
which makes ftf scum by default, so in theory, if i can lock this in, can't i just vote edj into gary and then we win? am i making some oversight here
sanity check me
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 14, 2024 5:27:43 GMT
I'm gonna take a step back and make any responses in the morning. Have a lovely night y'all
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:28:29 GMT
I still feel like this game is both of you two vs me so I don't think an f3 is hard to win since the interactions will show everything
Heeheehee |
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 5:29:19 GMT
think i'm deciding the town between edj & gary soz not locking you in as mafia necessarily but just... not feeling like your presence as of late has been that of my villager partner Wait really? So you think that Gary could actually be town? You're saying that you think FTF and I could be a pair? Why is that check my analysis in my latest post hopefully that explains my point of view here |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:29:20 GMT
i want to take a second to dive into edj's "solve me vs ftf" gambit because i think it's ultra useful in reaching a solve here let's say he's not town for a minute and look at what he'd be doing with both players as his partner: - if partnered with gary, he's suddenly forcing a vote on t!ftf and essentially ending his game by binding a solve to himself and ftf first for no reason - if partnered with ftf, he's switching away from voting gary because he suddenly can't vote gary as gary is town and that would end the game i'm sorry but scenario #1 is just ridiculous, i find it hard to believe edj & gary are partnered off of this, there is zero gain for that team whatsoever which makes ftf scum by default, so in theory, if i can lock this in, can't i just vote edj into gary and then we win? am i making some oversight here sanity check me YES! YES YOU CAN! After you vote me do whatever you'd like! |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 14, 2024 5:29:34 GMT
i want to take a second to dive into edj's "solve me vs ftf" gambit because i think it's ultra useful in reaching a solve here let's say he's not town for a minute and look at what he'd be doing with both players as his partner: - if partnered with gary, he's suddenly forcing a vote on t!ftf and essentially ending his game by binding a solve to himself and ftf first for no reason - if partnered with ftf, he's switching away from voting gary because he suddenly can't vote gary as gary is town and that would end the game i'm sorry but scenario #1 is just ridiculous, i find it hard to believe edj & gary are partnered off of this, there is zero gain for that team whatsoever which makes ftf scum by default, so in theory, if i can lock this in, can't i just vote edj into gary and then we win? am i making some oversight here sanity check me
in both the idea is the same: look unpartnered and keep the game going
also keep in mind his d1 in relation to this phase
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 14, 2024 5:30:05 GMT
i want to take a second to dive into edj's "solve me vs ftf" gambit because i think it's ultra useful in reaching a solve here let's say he's not town for a minute and look at what he'd be doing with both players as his partner: - if partnered with gary, he's suddenly forcing a vote on t!ftf and essentially ending his game by binding a solve to himself and ftf first for no reason - if partnered with ftf, he's switching away from voting gary because he suddenly can't vote gary as gary is town and that would end the game i'm sorry but scenario #1 is just ridiculous, i find it hard to believe edj & gary are partnered off of this, there is zero gain for that team whatsoever which makes ftf scum by default, so in theory, if i can lock this in, can't i just vote edj into gary and then we win? am i making some oversight here sanity check me YES! YES YOU CAN! After you vote me do whatever you'd like!
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 5:30:11 GMT
think i'm deciding the town between edj & gary soz not locking you in as mafia necessarily but just... not feeling like your presence as of late has been that of my villager partner
why
same thing i said to edj in the post above very difficult to see this gambit from edj coming from an edj & gary team |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:30:39 GMT
I'm gonna take a step back and make any responses in the morning. Have a lovely night y'all Byeeeee |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:31:29 GMT
same thing i said to edj in the post above very difficult to see this gambit from edj coming from an edj & gary team Maybe you're right and it is coming from a me + FTF team. You should probably vote and kill me to prove your point....... |
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 5:32:08 GMT
viewing both scenarios as independent is the issue
in both the idea is the same: look unpartnered and keep the game going yeah but he is straight up willing to vote you here and hard pivoting to the idea of the solve needing to be between you & him first idfk it doesn't make sense for him to be partnered with you either if i'm being honest lol, like it'd be a clear as day attempt to get his partner voted if he voted you does he think he can win an F3 if you're his partner and he suddenly decides to vote you out of nowhere with very little justification after tunneling gary? |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:33:00 GMT
viewing both scenarios as independent is the issue
in both the idea is the same: look unpartnered and keep the game going yeah but he is straight up willing to vote you here and hard pivoting to the idea of the solve needing to be between you & him first idfk it doesn't make sense for him to be partnered with you either if i'm being honest lol, like it'd be a clear as day attempt to get his partner voted if he voted you does he think he can win an F3 if you're his partner and he suddenly decides to vote you out of nowhere with very little justification after tunneling gary? AYO, looks like Clouds figured out my plan! Why do you think I wanted both of them pitted against me? |
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 5:33:50 GMT
i'll never quickhammer unfort edj, i want to play this out and give everyone a fair shake
i'm at something like:
- 78% voting edj
- 14% voting gary
- 8% voting ftf
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:35:53 GMT
i'll never quickhammer unfort edj, i want to play this out and give everyone a fair shake i'm at something like: - 78% voting edj - 14% voting gary - 8% voting ftf Okay fine but similar to today I'm gonna be busy for a lot of tomorrow so bear with me if I'm not online to get Gary riled up and FTF annoyed for a while |
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