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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 14, 2024 14:28:27 GMT
lke gary in what universe do you say that as town lol, if i vote edj & you're town then it's forced into F3 Why would I say that I as scum? If it's me and FTF (which it must be from edj's POV) and you actually follow through and vote him- then its just game over. If it's me and edj and you vote him, it goes to f3 where you'd re-eval and with that in mind vote FTF. Either way it'd be a loss for me The point i was making wasn't "Clouds yes you should vote edj" it was more so pointing out his playstyle that I have been despising.
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 18:40:52 GMT
lke gary in what universe do you say that as town lol, if i vote edj & you're town then it's forced into F3 Why would I say that I as scum? If it's me and FTF (which it must be from edj's POV) and you actually follow through and vote him- then its just game over. If it's me and edj and you vote him, it goes to f3 where you'd re-eval and with that in mind vote FTF. Either way it'd be a loss for me The point i was making wasn't "Clouds yes you should vote edj" it was more so pointing out his playstyle that I have been despising. yeah i know it was a sarcastic remark but it's just like idk i feel like as town here edj shouldn't be getting on your nerves, all you have to do is ignore him and make your case to me
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 20:06:10 GMT
Heeheehee
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 14, 2024 20:40:46 GMT
Why would I say that I as scum? If it's me and FTF (which it must be from edj's POV) and you actually follow through and vote him- then its just game over. If it's me and edj and you vote him, it goes to f3 where you'd re-eval and with that in mind vote FTF. Either way it'd be a loss for me The point i was making wasn't "Clouds yes you should vote edj" it was more so pointing out his playstyle that I have been despising. yeah i know it was a sarcastic remark but it's just like idk i feel like as town here edj shouldn't be getting on your nerves, all you have to do is ignore him and make your case to me It's easier said than done. It's hard to ignore him
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 21:29:30 GMT
it's pretty easy man
you see what he writes and you think to yourself "i am town i do not care about this mafia goon" and move towards casing why you're town & why they're mafia
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Post by commanderawesome on Jan 14, 2024 23:19:17 GMT
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 15, 2024 0:24:21 GMT
yeah i know it was a sarcastic remark but it's just like idk i feel like as town here edj shouldn't be getting on your nerves, all you have to do is ignore him and make your case to me It's easier said than done. It's hard to ignore him Sorry I'm irresistible
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 15, 2024 0:26:40 GMT
it's pretty easy man you see what he writes and you think to yourself "i am town i do not care about this mafia goon" and move towards casing why you're town & why they're mafia The thing I'm wondering is: why are you still talking to Gary about this? I think we can all be pretty confident about what his alignment is, so why aren't you focusing on FTF instead?
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 15, 2024 0:28:05 GMT
Btw I was really high one edibles last night but I'm sober right now so ask me anything
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Post by Clouds on Jan 15, 2024 1:24:10 GMT
my poor cold feet
nobody cares that i'm leaning towards an edj vote
so an ftf & gary team would just be throwing in the towel
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Post by Clouds on Jan 15, 2024 1:37:58 GMT
currently leaning clouds town i dont think the sample size is there for a scumread it feels like he's earnestly reading so far
i will note that nothing he has posted has explicitly untied him from either of you
If this is the case where Clouds is town, then surely the implication would then be that Edj and my interactions have to be fabricated? how much did you think FTF was town at this point in time gary?
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Post by Clouds on Jan 15, 2024 2:08:47 GMT
edj & gary team - gameplan would've been to hard distance with interactions as much as possible day 1 - for some reason decided to let ftf roll the vote into me without either of them jumping on it themselves but also not trying to kickstart any alternative vote - gary can kick back and let me vote edj today without any qualms - wincon is pretty much handed to them by the fact that ftf is the highest mafia possibility for me atp
edj & ftf team - wincon is to make sure i don't vote gary here - ftf can flake thread and let me vote edj for today without caring
gary & ftf team - gary pretends to bait ftf into vote me for whatever reason - both realized edj was leaning towards voting me, so they made sure 1 of them voted first to capitalize on the negative momentum - wincon is to not let edj get voted here
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Post by Clouds on Jan 15, 2024 2:12:33 GMT
edj & gary team- gameplan would've been to hard distance with interactions as much as possible day 1 - for some reason decided to let ftf roll the vote into me without either of them jumping on it themselves but also not trying to kickstart any alternative vote - gary can kick back and let me vote edj today without any qualms - wincon is pretty much handed to them by the fact that ftf is the highest mafia possibility for me atp edj & ftf team- wincon is to make sure i don't vote gary here - ftf can flake thread and let me vote edj for today without caring gary & ftf team
- gary pretends to bait ftf into vote me for whatever reason - both realized edj was leaning towards voting me, so they made sure 1 of them voted first to capitalize on the negative momentum - wincon is to not let edj get voted here when i read these, the one that i disvibe with the most is the first possibility for a few reasons: - edj is fighting hard to be voted here and gary is flailing against it, if i'm just voting 1 into the other and that locks in their win, then who cares - the game isn't really shaped around this being the team imo, they're both playing fairly aggressive so neither of them capitalizing on the chance to vote me makes little sense - in the quote above, gary's comment to ftf doesn't strike me as someone who would be distancing with edj intentionally? like he basically spells out what their plan would've been as a team
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Post by Clouds on Jan 15, 2024 2:16:00 GMT
Vote GaryVote FTFVote GarySee? it doesn't matter anymore because I was right about Gary and the FTF thing can be solved right here and right now in fact me vs FTF needs to be figured out so Vote FTFThere is literally a 0% chance that FTF survives over me also this doesn't make much sense for an edj & gary team if you're edj with gary as a partner, then why reverse course and try voting FTF here when that would end the game if he was town? he already had the backdrop to be voting gary here with the progression he'd laid out in thread
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Post by Clouds on Jan 15, 2024 2:23:36 GMT
also
s!FTF voting me and not attempting to do anything else is justifiable for him as mafia
because at that point in the game, based on reads i'd put out, it looked like he'd be able to win out even if i got confirmed D1
i was trying to wrap my head around what his plan would've been at all as mafia here, but i think that's just the answer... kinda simple
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Post by Clouds on Jan 15, 2024 2:32:01 GMT
so i have 1 booming question left for each of you, if you want to prove to me you're the other villager
all efforts are appreciated
FTF - you've seen my concerns with why i think edj & gary don't team, can you counter some of the pain point(s) there and explain why i'm seeing this incorrectly?
Gary - my main struggle with your slot this game is that it feels like you've been more counteractive than proactive. not retaliatory or anything, just that your approach to thread seems to mold around the flow or direction of the vote without you pushing through any opinions that convince me you're trying hard to read others or believe your own reads. can you capture how your read progression evolved during D1 & what sorts of things made you hook on to either of the other two having mafia equity?
Edj - do you have any spare edibles?
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Post by Clouds on Jan 15, 2024 2:32:11 GMT
real edj question is walk me through what interaction(s) or D1 moments you think do the best job at showcasing why the team is Gary & FTF
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 15, 2024 2:40:22 GMT
Okay so um I'm with people rn so mind these statements with the implied implications
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 15, 2024 2:40:45 GMT
so i have 1 booming question left for each of you, if you want to prove to me you're the other villager all efforts are appreciated FTF - you've seen my concerns with why i think edj & gary don't team, can you counter some of the pain point(s) there and explain why i'm seeing this incorrectly? Gary - my main struggle with your slot this game is that it feels like you've been more counteractive than proactive. not retaliatory or anything, just that your approach to thread seems to mold around the flow or direction of the vote without you pushing through any opinions that convince me you're trying hard to read others or believe your own reads. can you capture how your read progression evolved during D1 & what sorts of things made you hook on to either of the other two having mafia equity? Edj - do you have any spare edibles? Can you rephrase
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 15, 2024 2:41:08 GMT
Vote GaryVote FTFVote GarySee? it doesn't matter anymore because I was right about Gary and the FTF thing can be solved right here and right now in fact me vs FTF needs to be figured out so Vote FTFThere is literally a 0% chance that FTF survives over me also this doesn't make much sense for an edj & gary team if you're edj with gary as a partner, then why reverse course and try voting FTF here when that would end the game if he was town? he already had the backdrop to be voting gary here with the progression he'd laid out in thread This doesn't make sense for anything tbh
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 15, 2024 2:41:57 GMT
my poor cold feet nobody cares that i'm leaning towards an edj vote so an ftf & gary team would just be throwing in the towel I mean, I do care. But surely a lack of opposition surely says smth in and of itself
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 15, 2024 2:43:24 GMT
edj & gary team- gameplan would've been to hard distance with interactions as much as possible day 1 - for some reason decided to let ftf roll the vote into me without either of them jumping on it themselves but also not trying to kickstart any alternative vote - gary can kick back and let me vote edj today without any qualms - wincon is pretty much handed to them by the fact that ftf is the highest mafia possibility for me atp edj & ftf team- wincon is to make sure i don't vote gary here - ftf can flake thread and let me vote edj for today without caring gary & ftf team
- gary pretends to bait ftf into vote me for whatever reason - both realized edj was leaning towards voting me, so they made sure 1 of them voted first to capitalize on the negative momentum - wincon is to not let edj get voted here I know ur town but Respectfully don't agree with some of this for reasons I've already stated but would ve happy to say again
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jan 15, 2024 2:43:49 GMT
If this is the case where Clouds is town, then surely the implication would then be that Edj and my interactions have to be fabricated? how much did you think FTF was town at this point in time gary? I didnt
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Post by Clouds on Jan 15, 2024 3:23:25 GMT
Gary - my main struggle with your slot this game is that it feels like you've been more counteractive than proactive. not retaliatory or anything, just that your approach to thread seems to mold around the flow or direction of the vote without you pushing through any opinions that convince me you're trying hard to read others or believe your own reads. can you capture how your read progression evolved during D1 & what sorts of things made you hook on to either of the other two having mafia equity? Can you rephrase yeah so like you mentioned how you liked edj slightly more than ftf at times but i never understood exactly where or when that clicked for you, or how team reads factored in, ex. if you thought edj could be town, were you looking into if a team of me & FTF made sense? did you think edj could be town but just wildly wrong about you being mafia, or did you ever see his push as possibly in bad faith?
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 15, 2024 3:23:53 GMT
and we're back
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