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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:36:15 GMT
Btw FTF you should probably vote me
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 14, 2024 5:37:31 GMT
viewing both scenarios as independent is the issue
in both the idea is the same: look unpartnered and keep the game going yeah but he is straight up willing to vote you here and hard pivoting to the idea of the solve needing to be between you & him first idfk it doesn't make sense for him to be partnered with you either if i'm being honest lol, like it'd be a clear as day attempt to get his partner voted if he voted you does he think he can win an F3 if you're his partner and he suddenly decides to vote you out of nowhere with very little justification after tunneling gary?
so like
idc if you go edje this phase
my issue is that idk if you're capable of finding me in f3 if this is the line of thinking you're following
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 14, 2024 5:38:10 GMT
yeah but he is straight up willing to vote you here and hard pivoting to the idea of the solve needing to be between you & him first idfk it doesn't make sense for him to be partnered with you either if i'm being honest lol, like it'd be a clear as day attempt to get his partner voted if he voted you does he think he can win an F3 if you're his partner and he suddenly decides to vote you out of nowhere with very little justification after tunneling gary?
so like
idc if you go edje this phase
my issue is that idk if you're capable of finding me in f3 if this is the line of thinking you're following
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:38:47 GMT
yeah but he is straight up willing to vote you here and hard pivoting to the idea of the solve needing to be between you & him first idfk it doesn't make sense for him to be partnered with you either if i'm being honest lol, like it'd be a clear as day attempt to get his partner voted if he voted you does he think he can win an F3 if you're his partner and he suddenly decides to vote you out of nowhere with very little justification after tunneling gary?
so like
idc if you go edje this phase
my issue is that idk if you're capable of finding me in f3 if this is the line of thinking you're following
Then vote me out |
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 5:39:25 GMT
so i still have grievances with how it feels like you never truly questioned if i was scum edj, even though you'd air uncertainties about my slot and say it's a tough solve
from my point of view it often sort of felt as if you were playing to appease me by way of having some advantageous insight into my alignment
until right before i flipped where you said me x gary could be a team, but at that point, things had carried on quite far
then i also take issue with ftf making a bunch of what feel like peanut gallery comments in an attempt to discredit you
even if he makes good points at times, some of them from yesterday i was just like, does he actually care about this or is this just for the sake of content
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 5:41:04 GMT
yeah but he is straight up willing to vote you here and hard pivoting to the idea of the solve needing to be between you & him first idfk it doesn't make sense for him to be partnered with you either if i'm being honest lol, like it'd be a clear as day attempt to get his partner voted if he voted you does he think he can win an F3 if you're his partner and he suddenly decides to vote you out of nowhere with very little justification after tunneling gary? telegraphed my intent in what sense? |
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 5:42:35 GMT
further to that
you vote wrong and then we're at f3
if this is how you currently think then can i trust you to re-eval yes is that even a question, of course i would i'm not a 1-track mind player and airing my takes on where i currently stand isn't just to get it out there but is also to see how the game molds around it if you're town, it's gonna become fairly evident today |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:43:15 GMT
so i still have grievances with how it feels like you never truly questioned if i was scum edj, even though you'd air uncertainties about my slot and say it's a tough solve from my point of view it often sort of felt as if you were playing to appease me by way of having some advantageous insight into my alignment until right before i flipped where you said me x gary could be a team, but at that point, things had carried on quite far then i also take issue with ftf making a bunch of what feel like peanut gallery comments in an attempt to discredit you even if he makes good points at times, some of them from yesterday i was just like, does he actually care about this or is this just for the sake of content Okay I'll admit that I got concerned near the end of the day so I was considering all opportunities instead of which ones seemed slightly more likely but still, due to how I was later adamant with my Gary read and I hadn't yet looked into FTF much (plus it looked like 2/3 of the non-Clouds players wanted Clouds voted) then there wasn't really much of a reason to get too deep into it. |
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 5:43:16 GMT
You are living rent free in my head rn and I despise it who, edj? |
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 5:44:16 GMT
if he's mafia why are you letting him live in your head rent-free
as town you should feel as free as a bird riding the wind here, knowing you get to dunk on two goons all day that had a vote not go their day on day 1
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 14, 2024 5:44:45 GMT
alright i think i'm leaning mafia being edj +1 |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 14, 2024 5:45:20 GMT
further to that
you vote wrong and then we're at f3
if this is how you currently think then can i trust you to re-eval yes is that even a question, of course i would i'm not a 1-track mind player and airing my takes on where i currently stand isn't just to get it out there but is also to see how the game molds around it if you're town, it's gonna become fairly evident today
i'll be back later
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:45:42 GMT
if he's mafia why are you letting him live in your head rent-free as town you should feel as free as a bird riding the wind here, knowing you get to dunk on two goons all day that had a vote not go their day on day 1 He's only making things worse for himself |
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 5:47:58 GMT
this just feels partnered to me lol don't ask me to explain it he clearly wants it after just now being defeatist like 5 mins ago ...why did you say this |
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 5:48:50 GMT
lke gary in what universe do you say that as town lol, if i vote edj & you're town then it's forced into F3
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 5:49:29 GMT
alright i think i'm leaning mafia being edj +1 was there supposed to be commentary here |
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 5:51:21 GMT
well edj they both ditched me so i guess it's just you and i
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:51:32 GMT
lke gary in what universe do you say that as town lol, if i vote edj & you're town then it's forced into F3 I think that's another reason to see Gary as confscum. He wouldn't say that as the only town left, right? Which means you just need to solve between me and FTF. Sounds like Gary will vote along with ya! |
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 5:52:28 GMT
here's the other thing with voting edj:
IF i'm wrong, it still gets taken to F3. and edj is, for sure, without question, the best "info" vote here because it says so much about the other two slots
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:53:23 GMT
well edj they both ditched me so i guess it's just you and i Hiya I know you know what to do it just sucks that we need another person to do it |
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 5:53:50 GMT
lke gary in what universe do you say that as town lol, if i vote edj & you're town then it's forced into F3 I think that's another reason to see Gary as confscum. He wouldn't say that as the only town left, right? Which means you just need to solve between me and FTF. Sounds like Gary will vote along with ya! can you do me a favor real quick and like just try to map out what your progression on gary was and take me from null --> slight sr --> strong sr |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:53:57 GMT
here's the other thing with voting edj: IF i'm wrong, it still gets taken to F3. and edj is, for sure, without question, the best "info" vote here because it says so much about the other two slots So true bestie |
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Post by Clouds on Jan 14, 2024 5:54:18 GMT
well edj they both ditched me so i guess it's just you and i Hiya I know you know what to do it just sucks that we need another person to do it don't worry i have a sneaky idea |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:58:58 GMT
Hiya I know you know what to do it just sucks that we need another person to do it don't worry i have a sneaky idea Oh dude Kingmake |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 6:32:28 GMT
gary & edj interactions looking... kinda unpartnered? by design? maybe not? it's carrying out longer than i'd expect i think that would make things much easier keep yapping you two I'm ngl Gary's entrance/reply to me makes me sr him slightly null --> slight sr. That was basically all it took because as I said, throughout these two games Gary and I have played together I decided that he's the easiest to read. This is where things started picking up. There was a sequence of replies to me that were just so useless and did not come from a line of townie thinking. These posts don't contribute to him being town or to me being scum, and they barely sparked any conversaton. #1 I mean I know it's kind of standard to push Gary but fwiw I'm not as aggressive as I've been in any game before this. Not sure what it means but it's probably just because I'm not as active and also I dunno how to read FTF yet Its your own play of this game, what do you think it means? #2 So you think there's no partnering between Gary and FTF? Thats not what he said #3 I explained the sr on him but the main reason I don't want him voted is because I want you to vote me. Also I don't want you to vote like the only person I have somewhat of a read on Did you? This post also just made him an extremely strong tr from my POV. He just didn't seem like he was trying to understand what I was saying, he was just taking it at face value and replying just to reply. And there was also the intent to push me as well. I know sometimes it can be really easy for townies to think "why doesn't anyone believe me, I'm the towniest" but I couldn't see a reason why he was doing this. Call it an omgus or whatever but it was just a gut feeling. By the way when I read this it seems that you're hesitant to townread Clouds, hesitant to townread me but possibly thinking of pushing me if things come down to it, and *refusing to scumread FTF* (using asterisks because I don't remember how to do italics on mobile). Either way, the way you're talking about us makes it sound like you already have a plan for this game. I'm also getting a vibe that you're hesitant to scumread FTF 1. Because you're his partner and you just don't want to push him or 2. Because you want him to be your ace in the hole if me or Clouds get voted. Then again, I did this somewhat to Yosh last game (who also didn't speak a lot) because someone who comes into the game and sees that they're tred by someone (or at least town by poe) is gonna want to keep that person alive. Either way it sounds like TMI to me 1. Are you confident to call Clouds town? I'm not hesitant to townread Clouds, I'm hesitant to write him off as town and be convinced of it. 2. For you the same applies. The only thing is I know only 1 of you can be town rn, and for all I care that could be FTF. It could be s!Clouds and s!edj. I'm not hesitant to read any player in this game. But what I don't want to do is call them a certain alliance and then tunnel myself down a path where I have to convince myself that they are that alliance. If I'm forcing myself to commit somebody to a certain alliance, it probably isn't the right thing to do. 3. Are you confident to call FTF scum? I've stated before primarily its a lack of activity and I'm simply not convinced by the points already brought up about him. 4. "You want him to be your ace in the hole if me or Clouds gets voted"- This here seemingly implies that you've not only written me off as scum, you've written FTF off as scum with me? If this is the case how can you be so confident, especially when considering Clouds thoughts towards me? What I'm getting at here is what makes you so sure it's s!Gary and s!FTF and not s!Gary and s!Clouds? Why not? Has my little content and reading of FTF convinced you it MUST be me and FTF? And I don't wanna here this "reads can change" bullshit. Yeah, they can. But this is something else. You're so sold on me for God knows what reason but I really don't know where to take this from here. 5. Me this game is not you last game. Nor can I control when FTF comes online as I am not FTF. 6. Hot Question: What does TMI even mean in Mafia context? Like when did we start using it kek (oh this should be #4 but I messed up selecting posts ig) currently leaning clouds town
i dont think the sample size is there for a scumread
it feels like he's earnestly reading so far
i will note that nothing he has posted has explicitly untied him from either of you
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