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Post by Fame on Jun 17, 2024 18:49:08 GMT
I like tb's wallposts, they read as genuine to me, where they have a consistent reason to tr people, where me, vade, and realiti all have gotten trs because they think we're progressing thread (and that gives me a warm fuzzy feeling), especially how quick they were to answer the question about schia from vade (i could never my typing speed is far too slow.) I don't understand what Fame's questioning of vade accomplishes, but I want to like Fame because I've been semi mindmelding with them before, so id like to hear from them as to what they were looking for from vade i want more from ddlc, it feels like they wanted to just post to post and disappeared afterwards, not a fan. fame/schia interaction is interesting, and while schia brings up good points, I feel like fame's responses in terms of thinking the questions show intent are at the very least genuine. TR schia TL realiti just generally seems to be solving the way they have in previous games ive played w them, their comment on starting discussion is something recent that i like toiletbro for reasons posted earlier fame for general mindmeldiness, could drop depending on how they answer my question about their questions to vade MIXED micro seems to be alright, but I want to interact once they're read up and make my reads off that as personal preference, I want to solve them by having them interact with others ptsd just kinda seems fine? there's not really anything that theyve said that ive found interesting or particularly memorable myan is someone I have absolutely no read on, to be honest I should read them more in depth but I 'm gonna postpostpone that because im getting hungry lechen has posted dact is a person in this game of mafia clemens is as well but at least i know dact iavh is null, the slot they subbed into would be in dippers but i hope iavh posts soon vade still feels not great, but other people have made cases of them being a tunnel visioned town that make sense, I have a feeling that d2 I can make a solid read on them depending on who flips and how vade reacts to them. I'm sorry for getting too aggressive, I feel like I did exactly what I saw you doing. stp has moved down by virtue of them not having done much to help the thread/town themselves, and i want them to come back to actually making progress. winsy "making options" is weird, them claiming realiti's first post is ATE is weird, and them asking lechen to post reads when it seems as if they hadn't even read the full thread (mmentioning only my first 10 posts) feels weird, but I like their reaction to ptsd enough that i dont want to sl them dippers sylvie ddlc no srs or post-based sls, I don't believe that they're strong enough to be called as such, so I'd rather vote/nom from lower neutrals or the dippers im sorry i type so slow, idt i missed anyone, and i did NOT write this from top to bottom so hmu if sometyhing needs more explanation/feels weird to yall just wanted them to admit that their read of you being "opportunistic" came from a place of them feeling wrongfully accused themselves in thread/struggling to discuss their ideas bc they felt like ppl were dogpiling on them or something more townie than a feigned read from scum
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Post by MyanMario on Jun 17, 2024 18:49:43 GMT
Myan is entirely null here for me tbh, like, I dont feel like, any thoughts on what theyve said so far, theyre clearly trying, but I just dont feel much frok what theyve said biggest thing I see is the readlist from them so MyanMario if ur here can give explainations on them.Idm a myan vote bc I think myans unpartnered with vade and rea and if they flipped scum it’d help resolve the me v vade v rea that some ppl have. i can try but theres a good amount of not gut but like, intuition maybe? dont blame me if they seem forced town- vade: overall ive liked their posts and their interactions, notably stp/realti, have been making me think theyre town micro: echoing the above i think theyve been doing a good job expressing what theyre thinking, doesnt seem deceptive. they also actively engaged with my post(s) rather than just read it realti: not going to bother considering a pocket here, im getting good vibes and think the way theyve approached being pushed is very natural stp: dont have that much logic for this, mainly pmeta? either theyre town or doing a REALLY solid job of switching up their tone. mehh- schia: i just genuinely can never read schia w/o partner interactions, and nothing's stood out yet. not rlly anything, just someone who i think could be town here but keeping an eye on? ptsd: also cannot read them. their beginning things for their posts is funny and idt s!ptsd does that as they like to be a bit less attention grabbing. then again i just watched them sweep in an org as traitor so could be completely wrong! leaning?- fame: im def biased on this read b/c i know fame has an overall agressive tone/playstyle and that always messes with me a bit. their posts just seem very uptight maybe? i dont necessarily disagree with anything they've said, just not rlly liking the slot. NE: no logic on this i think, their posts feel echo-y but idt they are, just think its someone who I wouldn't be surprised upon a flip winsy: similar to NE, i may be just throwing out their name to add beef to reads but don't have much reason to suspect winsy besides that they seem like a pseudo-ddlc. will note i think theyve been attempting to engage more in this game and their posts are stronger, idk if that makes them more town or scum tho. lockscum- sylvie: not even gonna bother until they come online (which they HAVENT)
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Post by MyanMario on Jun 17, 2024 18:51:05 GMT
i wld really prefer not to be voted so ive been avoiding it but will give them atp probably nomming fame, stp, X, im still trying to think although im tempted to either throw in an afk slot or a tr is there a reason you're not nominating literally any of the other people you had listed as scumreads like winsy & ne were both listed as scumreads for you as of an hour ago ATM my noms are moreso slots that i'd like a lot of attention on, not necessarily my scumleans. even if its 3 town it at least gets the game moving, 3rd slot im leaving open atm in case i want to heroshoot
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Post by MyanMario on Jun 17, 2024 18:51:56 GMT
I like tb's wallposts, they read as genuine to me, where they have a consistent reason to tr people, where me, vade, and realiti all have gotten trs because they think we're progressing thread (and that gives me a warm fuzzy feeling), especially how quick they were to answer the question about schia from vade (i could never my typing speed is far too slow.) I don't understand what Fame's questioning of vade accomplishes, but I want to like Fame because I've been semi mindmelding with them before, so id like to hear from them as to what they were looking for from vade i want more from ddlc, it feels like they wanted to just post to post and disappeared afterwards, not a fan. fame/schia interaction is interesting, and while schia brings up good points, I feel like fame's responses in terms of thinking the questions show intent are at the very least genuine. TR schia TL realiti just generally seems to be solving the way they have in previous games ive played w them, their comment on starting discussion is something recent that i like toiletbro for reasons posted earlier fame for general mindmeldiness, could drop depending on how they answer my question about their questions to vade MIXED micro seems to be alright, but I want to interact once they're read up and make my reads off that as personal preference, I want to solve them by having them interact with others ptsd just kinda seems fine? there's not really anything that theyve said that ive found interesting or particularly memorable myan is someone I have absolutely no read on, to be honest I should read them more in depth but I 'm gonna postpostpone that because im getting hungry lechen has posted dact is a person in this game of mafia clemens is as well but at least i know dact iavh is null, the slot they subbed into would be in dippers but i hope iavh posts soonvade still feels not great, but other people have made cases of them being a tunnel visioned town that make sense, I have a feeling that d2 I can make a solid read on them depending on who flips and how vade reacts to them. I'm sorry for getting too aggressive, I feel like I did exactly what I saw you doing. stp has moved down by virtue of them not having done much to help the thread/town themselves, and i want them to come back to actually making progress. winsy "making options" is weird, them claiming realiti's first post is ATE is weird, and them asking lechen to post reads when it seems as if they hadn't even read the full thread (mmentioning only my first 10 posts) feels weird, but I like their reaction to ptsd enough that i dont want to sl them dippers sylvie ddlc no srs or post-based sls, I don't believe that they're strong enough to be called as such, so I'd rather vote/nom from lower neutrals or the dippers im sorry i type so slow, idt i missed anyone, and i did NOT write this from top to bottom so hmu if sometyhing needs more explanation/feels weird to yall clemens = iavh
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Post by slowthepoke on Jun 17, 2024 18:52:21 GMT
Ima go eat, ill give my thoughts on ur post when i get back
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Post by winsytinsy on Jun 17, 2024 18:57:05 GMT
Hmm, Honestly i'm feeling more and more indifferent towards myan, but with a lack of a better option(in my eyes) Im still voting them. If anyone has any other potential votes, I just don't think anyone merits it more atp
vote @myanmario
Snaq edit: fix vote
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Post by realiti on Jun 17, 2024 18:59:38 GMT
Why? I feel like previously his posts felt more awkward and out of place, but here he's willing to address concerns and defend his decisions even if they don't make a lot of sense That's the bar?? What. The bar for townlean/scumlean is different for each player, MyanMario is someone who I think is somewhat active but struggled to push out content when he was being pressured as scum. Therefore when I see him being able to defend his thoughts in live without too much hesitation or wavering I feel like that gives him some credit. Whereas for someone like Fame, having played EiMM and 1-2 mafia games with him, I think he's capable of churning out thoughts and fitting into thread as both alignments. Thus something that I'd townread Myanmario for such as being more naturally responsive, I wouldn't townread Fame for because I think it isn't AI Now, I'm personally getting tired of talking about MyanMario (LOL) but re: Fame asking Myanmario about his nom list. Fame's question felt scummy bc it feels like he was more concerned about who was nominated than Myanmario's alignment. Myan's noms were weird as Fame pointed out that he was potentially nomming two townreads, and I don't know how I feel about Myan's response after that. Overall all I can really confidently say about that interaction is that the two aren't partnered
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Post by realiti on Jun 17, 2024 19:00:54 GMT
I like winsy and Snivy, agree with their points + natural tone = townlean for me. Fame slight TL, towny mindset from some posts but also good enough to fake it as mafia. Myanmario back to null and possibly slight sl, will continue to observe. On 2nd thought I feel better about NE bc faking anger at wade as mafia seems excessive so early on so it's probably a natural reaction. DDLC + PTSD pretty null Towniest people are still vade and schia Fuck i just lost my entire post. But anyways I really like this line, I think it helps with one of the main problems I had with the slot(them jumping the gun on reads) bc they actually gave reasonings for their reads and I like that. I also agree with these reads cuz when I did read, I thought winsy had townie vibes and agreed with the posts that toiletbro made, (barring me but I think I can get where there coming from) I havent really read fame yet bc reading fame is a whole can of worms that I know is gonna be hell, so cant really comment on that one. Another thing I like is that u show what u said earlier when u said, my reads cant change with the myan read, I dont really like that u didnt give a reasoning like the others, but its not that huge of a deal. It also doesnt really feel like distancing (in a scenario where myan and rea are both scum) because later on they go back and tl them after liking some of their posts. I havent finished reading realitis iso, but overall I do think that this post > my issues with them earlier, esp with realities explanation for the early reads and shit. There still null rn, bc I dont wanna change my read just off one post without reading the otherw, but I do feel better abt the slot and I do think theyre more likely town. But quick question, can you explain the difference between a natural and unnatural tone to u?bc u seem to use that as part of ur reasoning a lot and I don’t really understand what that means, besides the whole timid thing. Or u could also like explain what made winsys tone natural or smth so I can have a better understanding of what ur trying to say. I Natural = being themselves and fitting into the thread without awkwardly ruining the flow Unnatural = feeling forced to say something for the sake of it + self-conscious about how they're perceived
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Post by winsytinsy on Jun 17, 2024 19:01:07 GMT
The bar for townlean/scumlean is different for each player, MyanMario is someone who I think is somewhat active but struggled to push out content when he was being pressured as scum. Therefore when I see him being able to defend his thoughts in live without too much hesitation or wavering I feel like that gives him some credit. Whereas for someone like Fame, having played EiMM and 1-2 mafia games with him, I think he's capable of churning out thoughts and fitting into thread as both alignments. Thus something that I'd townread Myanmario for such as being more naturally responsive, I wouldn't townread Fame for because I think it isn't AI Now, I'm personally getting tired of talking about MyanMario (LOL) but re: Fame asking Myanmario about his nom list. Fame's question felt scummy bc it feels like he was more concerned about who was nominated than Myanmario's alignment. Myan's noms were weird as Fame pointed out that he was potentially nomming two townreads, and I don't know how I feel about Myan's response after that. Overall all I can really confidently say about that interaction is that the two aren't partnered Great post honestly, I don't think Fame's question was necessarily scummy, but changing how you read activity based on a player is an excellent point
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Post by realiti on Jun 17, 2024 19:02:05 GMT
stp's pivot is interesting, if he's scum and tryna suck up to me it's working LMAO. i will await his future thoughts when he comes back and figure his slot out from there
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Post by slowthepoke on Jun 17, 2024 19:05:01 GMT
Ok so i actually like myans response there, like, not in term of a read point but in terms of towniness, like I feel like scum wouldnt want to say that esp in a scenario where theyre already being heavily pressured, and the fact that their admitting that they dont have a real reasoning for ne and winsy sls is something I dont see scum myan doing, I feel like they would be more likley to just panick and give a fake reasoning. Ima gonna tl them off of this.
vote @Lechen
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Post by slowthepoke on Jun 17, 2024 19:09:22 GMT
Im gonna go begin the process of reading fame and hope i find something genuine there
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Post by realiti on Jun 17, 2024 19:10:57 GMT
re: Lechen - people have been asking why I am pushing him so hard.
1) Halfway through the day he mentioned having read the thread but didn't feel confident sharing his reads because he didn't understand mafia terms. I feel like if you had thoughts as a townie you would say them regardless of not understanding terms. Maybe this could from a town!Lechen but I think it is possible that this is scum!Lechen who doesn't want to commit to a stance on ppl and felt the need to make a post
2) I decided to place my vote on him bc I didn't have any strong scumreads and I wanted him to elaborate but he did not respond to my ping. Having his reads would help solve his slot and I would like to get him to give them
3) I was hoping people could hop onto the wagon so he could feel pressured and give his reads, and we can all re-evaluate then. But nobody jumped on which makes me wonder why there is resistance & quietness around his slot. Perhaps mafia is hoping he can fly UTR with everything else happening.
So yeah, not 100% confident on Lechen slot but I do think he is not a bad vote today, especially because I'm not super confident on flipping the other slots atm
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 17, 2024 19:11:23 GMT
The bar for townlean/scumlean is different for each player, MyanMario is someone who I think is somewhat active but struggled to push out content when he was being pressured as scum. Therefore when I see him being able to defend his thoughts in live without too much hesitation or wavering I feel like that gives him some credit. Whereas for someone like Fame, having played EiMM and 1-2 mafia games with him, I think he's capable of churning out thoughts and fitting into thread as both alignments. Thus something that I'd townread Myanmario for such as being more naturally responsive, I wouldn't townread Fame for because I think it isn't AI Now, I'm personally getting tired of talking about MyanMario (LOL) but re: Fame asking Myanmario about his nom list. Fame's question felt scummy bc it feels like he was more concerned about who was nominated than Myanmario's alignment. Myan's noms were weird as Fame pointed out that he was potentially nomming two townreads, and I don't know how I feel about Myan's response after that. Overall all I can really confidently say about that interaction is that the two aren't partnered I mean, eh? Idk I still think it's giving a lot of credit over very little, and I'm also really grappling with the bold--like I feel like that's just straight up inconsistent with my experience of this thread and I'm trying to understand how you get there fypov. I can kind of get behind the stuff with Fame, and it's part of why I'm not really in a rush to lock in the half-teamsolve--I think there's room for Myan to show the anxieties they've shown as town, I think there's room for you to arrive at (most) of the off-the-cuff reads & general thread-presence you've shown, and I think there's room for Fame to be overly cautious villa. I just have difficulty holding all three of these to be true at once, in context of the content that's been produced here.
unvote
recalibrating for a second, will try and unpack this all over the next few posts
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Post by realiti on Jun 17, 2024 19:11:35 GMT
I'm not sure if i should be suspicious of stp following my logic or embrace him with open arms
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Post by slowthepoke on Jun 17, 2024 19:12:41 GMT
I'm not sure if i should be suspicious of stp following my logic or embrace him with open arms What logic? Im only voting lechen to cw off myan and bc i havent read fame yet
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Post by realiti on Jun 17, 2024 19:12:56 GMT
And yeah agree with STP on Myan, if he were scum and wanted to self-pres it seems weird that he's dying on the hill of voting Sylvie
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Post by realiti on Jun 17, 2024 19:13:29 GMT
I'm not sure if i should be suspicious of stp following my logic or embrace him with open arms What logic? Im only voting lechen to cw off myan and bc i havent read fame yet Well you went from disagreeing on everything I said yesterday to agreeing with my posts
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Post by slowthepoke on Jun 17, 2024 19:14:03 GMT
What logic? Im only voting lechen to cw off myan and bc i havent read fame yet Well you went from disagreeing on everything I said yesterday to agreeing with my posts Yeah bc i can understand them more, abd the later ones aligned more to what i thought
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Post by iavh on Jun 17, 2024 19:14:57 GMT
I like tb's wallposts, they read as genuine to me, where they have a consistent reason to tr people, where me, vade, and realiti all have gotten trs because they think we're progressing thread (and that gives me a warm fuzzy feeling), especially how quick they were to answer the question about schia from vade (i could never my typing speed is far too slow.) I don't understand what Fame's questioning of vade accomplishes, but I want to like Fame because I've been semi mindmelding with them before, so id like to hear from them as to what they were looking for from vade i want more from ddlc, it feels like they wanted to just post to post and disappeared afterwards, not a fan. fame/schia interaction is interesting, and while schia brings up good points, I feel like fame's responses in terms of thinking the questions show intent are at the very least genuine. TR schia TL realiti just generally seems to be solving the way they have in previous games ive played w them, their comment on starting discussion is something recent that i like toiletbro for reasons posted earlier fame for general mindmeldiness, could drop depending on how they answer my question about their questions to vade MIXED micro seems to be alright, but I want to interact once they're read up and make my reads off that as personal preference, I want to solve them by having them interact with others ptsd just kinda seems fine? there's not really anything that theyve said that ive found interesting or particularly memorable myan is someone I have absolutely no read on, to be honest I should read them more in depth but I 'm gonna postpostpone that because im getting hungry lechen has posted dact is a person in this game of mafia clemens is as well but at least i know dact iavh is null, the slot they subbed into would be in dippers but i hope iavh posts soonvade still feels not great, but other people have made cases of them being a tunnel visioned town that make sense, I have a feeling that d2 I can make a solid read on them depending on who flips and how vade reacts to them. I'm sorry for getting too aggressive, I feel like I did exactly what I saw you doing. stp has moved down by virtue of them not having done much to help the thread/town themselves, and i want them to come back to actually making progress. winsy "making options" is weird, them claiming realiti's first post is ATE is weird, and them asking lechen to post reads when it seems as if they hadn't even read the full thread (mmentioning only my first 10 posts) feels weird, but I like their reaction to ptsd enough that i dont want to sl them dippers sylvie ddlc no srs or post-based sls, I don't believe that they're strong enough to be called as such, so I'd rather vote/nom from lower neutrals or the dippers im sorry i type so slow, idt i missed anyone, and i did NOT write this from top to bottom so hmu if sometyhing needs more explanation/feels weird to yall clemens = iavh oh fuck
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Post by iavh on Jun 17, 2024 19:15:07 GMT
I hate that name someone change it pls
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Post by slowthepoke on Jun 17, 2024 19:16:47 GMT
I hate that name someone change it pls Ok clemens i got u
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Post by iavh on Jun 17, 2024 19:17:02 GMT
I hate that name someone change it pls Ok clemens i got u fuck u
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Post by realiti on Jun 17, 2024 19:19:02 GMT
I was gonna give an indepth reads list but not sure if I have the time or energy to do so atm, gonna just give a basic one so u guys know where i'm at and elaborate if i'm still here tomorrow. Everything is ranked (and the last one was also ranked but it seemed ppl might have missed that). If one of my towns are wrong it's probably myanmario
TOWN vade schia
TOWNLEAN Snivy NE
SLIGHT TOWNLEAN winsytinsy micro myanmario
NULL PTSD ddlc dactyl iavh
NEED TO ANALYZE MORE BUT BELOW NULL fame stp
SL lechen
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Post by realiti on Jun 17, 2024 19:19:58 GMT
I missed sylvie they're in null, I remember they had an early entrance but NGL, IDR if they posted after that
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