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Post by winsytinsy on Jun 17, 2024 19:22:03 GMT
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Post by slowthepoke on Jun 17, 2024 19:24:07 GMT
Ok ill just call u… “we rise again” |
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Post by slowthepoke on Jun 17, 2024 19:44:03 GMT
aw now everyone left and shit, the other page is so much more active rn
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Post by micromorphic on Jun 17, 2024 19:55:52 GMT
Im just gonna say, I really like micros posts a lot, like I like their take on the me and vade v realiti situation, and I agree with them that I was nitpicky with my pusu onto rea, I also get how they could see that its a tunnel(i dont see it as such, esp with vade, less so with me, bit I do get how they get to that conclusion), I dont really get what they disliked with ne or what changed for them tho, and they feel slightly non-commital with the “I think anyone can be any faction. Want actual alignment reads from them and not them just doing a ptsd(giving thoughts on posts but not sharing what they think of someones alignment), I do tl them tho and their probaly my 2nd strongest read besides schia With NightEmerald, their posts prior to Page 8 felt extremely fillery, and they were contributing bad pressure in chat (for example, questioning you on your "vade is new" post saying that vade isn't new). Those types of prods does not show town looking for faction but rather just empty messages. However, I did like NE's prodding on vaderaven starting Page 8 cuz honestly I would've asked those questions myself. Also, the "I think anyone can be any faction" was my summary of NE's first read post exaggerated a little, because it was a bunch of yapping just to say "vade is SL schia is TL maybe", those weren't my reads. As for my alignment reads, let's go down the list: toiletbro2 had a good initial post with some thoughts that I agreed with as well, though I'd like to see more from them. Null passthesaltdude had an even better initial post, but I thought it was weird that you and Schia towned that almost immediately, if you could tell me why that'd be great. Also Null. ddlcfan69 hasn't impressed me so far. Once again null (it gets better I promise) winsytinsy had a couple posts I really liked, specifically noting NE's posts about nothing and comparing themself to realiti for a read. I feel like that's a good town perspective to have when you're searching for other town. Townread. STP you are an interesting slot for me rn. I didn't like how you approached realiti slot, but I think you have prodded multiple people in good ways, which I noted in a previous post as "good but obvious". I also didn't like how you closed realiti push in Page 6 or 7 (forgot) with "null leaning scum", why did realiti's responses feel null to you? I thought it was pretty clear you didn't like them. You're a low prio scumlean for me. I can't read Schia confidently yet but I think their prodding has been good so far, I like their responses to vade's first meh townlean on Page 2 as well as their response to you saying the tone is town. I'll read more into Schia's stuff with Fame after I post this but Schia is townlean for me. Myan's posts haven't impressed me either, kinda the same as ddlc. Something that stood out to me though, MyanMario, you said you wanted stp nommed even though they were a townlean because you wanted to put attention on them (as well as Fame). How do you want us to put attention on these two slots & what's preventing you from doing it now? Null NightEmerald started off extremely wolfy to me. Then became less wolfy with town motivated prods but then vanished. It seems like vaderaven v NightEmerald exists but neither are strongly pushing each other anymore? I'm kinda confused what happened here. I'll dissect more on their second mass read list before day ends, but I switched up from them on scumlean to townlean, but now they're kinda back into null. realiti's posts seem town motivated to me, I liked their responses to pressure, though I'd wish they won't double down on the pmeta townleans. I'll wait for their elaboration on their second read list but for now they're a townlean for me. Finally, vaderaven is one of the slots in this mafia game! They had a couple weird reads from NAI posts into some poor pushing on realiti into some poor response to pressure from NightEmerald, but I think it's uphill from that point. Their push on NightEmerald is a push that makes sense from their POV, and their reads match up with their progression up to this point with nothing screaming TMI. I'm willing to put them as a townlean. TLDR, Town: Winsy, Schia, realiti, vade. Null: TB2, PTSD, DDLC, Myan, NE. Scum: STP From this read list, it may seem like I want to vote STP here but honestly I'd rather not. I think a Myan vote could be better depending on how they handle my question & EOD. |
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Post by micromorphic on Jun 17, 2024 19:56:31 GMT
Im just gonna say, I really like micros posts a lot, like I like their take on the me and vade v realiti situation, and I agree with them that I was nitpicky with my pusu onto rea, I also get how they could see that its a tunnel(i dont see it as such, esp with vade, less so with me, bit I do get how they get to that conclusion), I dont really get what they disliked with ne or what changed for them tho, and they feel slightly non-commital with the “I think anyone can be any faction. Want actual alignment reads from them and not them just doing a ptsd(giving thoughts on posts but not sharing what they think of someones alignment), I do tl them tho and their probaly my 2nd strongest read besides schia With NightEmerald, their posts prior to Page 8 felt extremely fillery, and they were contributing bad pressure in chat (for example, questioning you on your "vade is new" post saying that vade isn't new). Those types of prods does not show town looking for faction but rather just empty messages. However, I did like NE's prodding on vaderaven starting Page 8 cuz honestly I would've asked those questions myself. Also, the "I think anyone can be any faction" was my summary of NE's first read post exaggerated a little, because it was a bunch of yapping just to say "vade is SL schia is TL maybe", those weren't my reads. As for my alignment reads, let's go down the list: toiletbro2 had a good initial post with some thoughts that I agreed with as well, though I'd like to see more from them. Null passthesaltdude had an even better initial post, but I thought it was weird that you and Schia towned that almost immediately, if you could tell me why that'd be great. Also Null. ddlcfan69 hasn't impressed me so far. Once again null (it gets better I promise) winsytinsy had a couple posts I really liked, specifically noting NE's posts about nothing and comparing themself to realiti for a read. I feel like that's a good town perspective to have when you're searching for other town. Townread. STP you are an interesting slot for me rn. I didn't like how you approached realiti slot, but I think you have prodded multiple people in good ways, which I noted in a previous post as "good but obvious". I also didn't like how you closed realiti push in Page 6 or 7 (forgot) with "null leaning scum", why did realiti's responses feel null to you? I thought it was pretty clear you didn't like them. You're a low prio scumlean for me. I can't read Schia confidently yet but I think their prodding has been good so far, I like their responses to vade's first meh townlean on Page 2 as well as their response to you saying the tone is town. I'll read more into Schia's stuff with Fame after I post this but Schia is townlean for me. Myan's posts haven't impressed me either, kinda the same as ddlc. Something that stood out to me though, MyanMario , you said you wanted stp nommed even though they were a townlean because you wanted to put attention on them (as well as Fame). How do you want us to put attention on these two slots & what's preventing you from doing it now? Null NightEmerald started off extremely wolfy to me. Then became less wolfy with town motivated prods but then vanished. It seems like vaderaven v NightEmerald exists but neither are strongly pushing each other anymore? I'm kinda confused what happened here. I'll dissect more on their second mass read list before day ends, but I switched up from them on scumlean to townlean, but now they're kinda back into null. realiti's posts seem town motivated to me, I liked their responses to pressure, though I'd wish they won't double down on the pmeta townleans. I'll wait for their elaboration on their second read list but for now they're a townlean for me. Finally, vaderaven is one of the slots in this mafia game! They had a couple weird reads from NAI posts into some poor pushing on realiti into some poor response to pressure from NightEmerald, but I think it's uphill from that point. Their push on NightEmerald is a push that makes sense from their POV, and their reads match up with their progression up to this point with nothing screaming TMI. I'm willing to put them as a townlean. TLDR, Town: Winsy, Schia, realiti, vade. Null: TB2, PTSD, DDLC, Myan, NE. Scum: STP From this read list, it may seem like I want to vote STP here but honestly I'd rather not. I think a Myan vote could be better depending on how they handle my question & EOD. Also if I didn't say their name then I either don't have a read on them because I've focused on other stuff or they haven't/barely posted |
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Post by micromorphic on Jun 17, 2024 19:56:59 GMT
Gonna start asking questions because that's how you win mafia games instead of just posting wallposts of observations
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Post by micromorphic on Jun 17, 2024 19:58:33 GMT
also STP im gonna start reading ur shit from page 18 beyond
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 17, 2024 19:59:49 GMT
Votecount 1.3: 2 hours to go until deadline. If deadline was right now, MyanMario would be voted out. Please let me know of any mistakes in the Votecount. (2) MyanMario: Fame, winsytinsy(1) slowthepoke: ToiletBro2(1) Fame: SylvieSlays2(1) Lechen: realiti(1) SylvieSlays2: MyanMario(11) Not Voting: passthesaltdude, ddlcfan69, winsytinsy, iavh, Dactyl7, Lechen, NightEmerald, micromorphic, vaderaven, slowthepoke, Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪Make sure to submit your Death Noms in PMs even if you are not being voted right now before the day is over. Remember: they will be randomized if you do not (though I'll try to track you down first).
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Post by micromorphic on Jun 17, 2024 20:00:49 GMT
Myan is entirely null here for me tbh, like, I dont feel like, any thoughts on what theyve said so far, theyre clearly trying, but I just dont feel much frok what theyve said biggest thing I see is the readlist from them so MyanMario if ur here can give explainations on them.Idm a myan vote bc I think myans unpartnered with vade and rea and if they flipped scum it’d help resolve the me v vade v rea that some ppl have. i can try but theres a good amount of not gut but like, intuition maybe? dont blame me if they seem forced town- vade: overall ive liked their posts and their interactions, notably stp/realti, have been making me think theyre town micro: echoing the above i think theyve been doing a good job expressing what theyre thinking, doesnt seem deceptive. they also actively engaged with my post(s) rather than just read it realti: not going to bother considering a pocket here, im getting good vibes and think the way theyve approached being pushed is very natural stp: dont have that much logic for this, mainly pmeta? either theyre town or doing a REALLY solid job of switching up their tone. mehh- schia: i just genuinely can never read schia w/o partner interactions, and nothing's stood out yet. not rlly anything, just someone who i think could be town here but keeping an eye on? ptsd: also cannot read them. their beginning things for their posts is funny and idt s!ptsd does that as they like to be a bit less attention grabbing. then again i just watched them sweep in an org as traitor so could be completely wrong! leaning?- fame: im def biased on this read b/c i know fame has an overall agressive tone/playstyle and that always messes with me a bit. their posts just seem very uptight maybe? i dont necessarily disagree with anything they've said, just not rlly liking the slot. NE: no logic on this i think, their posts feel echo-y but idt they are, just think its someone who I wouldn't be surprised upon a flip winsy: similar to NE, i may be just throwing out their name to add beef to reads but don't have much reason to suspect winsy besides that they seem like a pseudo-ddlc. will note i think theyve been attempting to engage more in this game and their posts are stronger, idk if that makes them more town or scum tho. lockscum- sylvie: not even gonna bother until they come online (which they HAVENT) One thing that's wack is that we're almost on the same wavelength with our reads. Fame reasoning here is the most interesting to me, could you show me some of the posts that make you feel this way? Or at least one. I'm having trouble reading Fame rn |
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Post by winsytinsy on Jun 17, 2024 20:04:46 GMT
Votecount 1.3: 2 hours to go until deadline. If deadline was right now, MyanMario would be voted out. Please let me know of any mistakes in the Votecount. (1) MyanMario : Fame (1) slowthepoke : ToiletBro2 (1) Fame : SylvieSlays2 (1) Lechen : realiti (1) SylvieSlays2 : MyanMario (11) Not Voting: passthesaltdude , ddlcfan69 , winsytinsy , iavh , Dactyl7 , Lechen , NightEmerald , micromorphic , vaderaven , slowthepoke , Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ Make sure to submit your Death Noms in PMs even if you are not being voted right now before the day is over. Remember: they will be randomized if you do not (though I'll try to track you down first). Not sure if it doesnt count, but i did sub a vote onto myan |
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Post by winsytinsy on Jun 17, 2024 20:05:17 GMT
Anywho gonna head out in like 5 minutes to go to work, anyone have anything they would like to ask/talk about b4 I dip?
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Post by slowthepoke on Jun 17, 2024 20:05:44 GMT
vote @lechen
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Post by slowthepoke on Jun 17, 2024 20:14:52 GMT
Im just gonna say, I really like micros posts a lot, like I like their take on the me and vade v realiti situation, and I agree with them that I was nitpicky with my pusu onto rea, I also get how they could see that its a tunnel(i dont see it as such, esp with vade, less so with me, bit I do get how they get to that conclusion), I dont really get what they disliked with ne or what changed for them tho, and they feel slightly non-commital with the “I think anyone can be any faction. Want actual alignment reads from them and not them just doing a ptsd(giving thoughts on posts but not sharing what they think of someones alignment), I do tl them tho and their probaly my 2nd strongest read besides schia With NightEmerald, their posts prior to Page 8 felt extremely fillery, and they were contributing bad pressure in chat (for example, questioning you on your "vade is new" post saying that vade isn't new). Those types of prods does not show town looking for faction but rather just empty messages. However, I did like NE's prodding on vaderaven starting Page 8 cuz honestly I would've asked those questions myself. Also, the "I think anyone can be any faction" was my summary of NE's first read post exaggerated a little, because it was a bunch of yapping just to say "vade is SL schia is TL maybe", those weren't my reads. As for my alignment reads, let's go down the list: toiletbro2 had a good initial post with some thoughts that I agreed with as well, though I'd like to see more from them. Null passthesaltdude had an even better initial post, but I thought it was weird that you and Schia towned that almost immediately, if you could tell me why that'd be great. Also Null. ddlcfan69 hasn't impressed me so far. Once again null (it gets better I promise) winsytinsy had a couple posts I really liked, specifically noting NE's posts about nothing and comparing themself to realiti for a read. I feel like that's a good town perspective to have when you're searching for other town. Townread. STP you are an interesting slot for me rn. I didn't like how you approached realiti slot, but I think you have prodded multiple people in good ways, which I noted in a previous post as "good but obvious". I also didn't like how you closed realiti push in Page 6 or 7 (forgot) with "null leaning scum", why did realiti's responses feel null to you? I thought it was pretty clear you didn't like them. You're a low prio scumlean for me. I can't read Schia confidently yet but I think their prodding has been good so far, I like their responses to vade's first meh townlean on Page 2 as well as their response to you saying the tone is town. I'll read more into Schia's stuff with Fame after I post this but Schia is townlean for me. Myan's posts haven't impressed me either, kinda the same as ddlc. Something that stood out to me though, MyanMario , you said you wanted stp nommed even though they were a townlean because you wanted to put attention on them (as well as Fame). How do you want us to put attention on these two slots & what's preventing you from doing it now? Null NightEmerald started off extremely wolfy to me. Then became less wolfy with town motivated prods but then vanished. It seems like vaderaven v NightEmerald exists but neither are strongly pushing each other anymore? I'm kinda confused what happened here. I'll dissect more on their second mass read list before day ends, but I switched up from them on scumlean to townlean, but now they're kinda back into null. realiti's posts seem town motivated to me, I liked their responses to pressure, though I'd wish they won't double down on the pmeta townleans. I'll wait for their elaboration on their second read list but for now they're a townlean for me. Finally, vaderaven is one of the slots in this mafia game! They had a couple weird reads from NAI posts into some poor pushing on realiti into some poor response to pressure from NightEmerald, but I think it's uphill from that point. Their push on NightEmerald is a push that makes sense from their POV, and their reads match up with their progression up to this point with nothing screaming TMI. I'm willing to put them as a townlean. TLDR, Town: Winsy, Schia, realiti, vade. Null: TB2, PTSD, DDLC, Myan, NE. Scum: STP From this read list, it may seem like I want to vote STP here but honestly I'd rather not. I think a Myan vote could be better depending on how they handle my question & EOD. ok so I thought they were null bc despite the fact that I disliked there posts and thought they were weird/bad, I thought I could see them as town by getting them to explain some of the stuff I had issues with them on so that I could understand it and make sense of why they would say stuff like that as town, and I was nowhere near convinced that they were scum, just that there posts were bad, the scummy part was them like, completely refusing to elaborate past what they already did and I heavily disliked that, which is why I listed them at the time as null leaning scum. |
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Post by micromorphic on Jun 17, 2024 20:16:45 GMT
I like tb's wallposts, they read as genuine to me, where they have a consistent reason to tr people, where me, vade, and realiti all have gotten trs because they think we're progressing thread (and that gives me a warm fuzzy feeling), especially how quick they were to answer the question about schia from vade (i could never my typing speed is far too slow.) I don't understand what Fame's questioning of vade accomplishes, but I want to like Fame because I've been semi mindmelding with them before, so id like to hear from them as to what they were looking for from vade i want more from ddlc, it feels like they wanted to just post to post and disappeared afterwards, not a fan. fame/schia interaction is interesting, and while schia brings up good points, I feel like fame's responses in terms of thinking the questions show intent are at the very least genuine. TR schia TL realiti just generally seems to be solving the way they have in previous games ive played w them, their comment on starting discussion is something recent that i like toiletbro for reasons posted earlier fame for general mindmeldiness, could drop depending on how they answer my question about their questions to vade MIXED micro seems to be alright, but I want to interact once they're read up and make my reads off that as personal preference, I want to solve them by having them interact with others ptsd just kinda seems fine? there's not really anything that theyve said that ive found interesting or particularly memorable myan is someone I have absolutely no read on, to be honest I should read them more in depth but I 'm gonna postpostpone that because im getting hungry lechen has posted dact is a person in this game of mafia clemens is as well but at least i know dact iavh is null, the slot they subbed into would be in dippers but i hope iavh posts soon vade still feels not great, but other people have made cases of them being a tunnel visioned town that make sense, I have a feeling that d2 I can make a solid read on them depending on who flips and how vade reacts to them. I'm sorry for getting too aggressive, I feel like I did exactly what I saw you doing. stp has moved down by virtue of them not having done much to help the thread/town themselves, and i want them to come back to actually making progress. winsy "making options" is weird, them claiming realiti's first post is ATE is weird, and them asking lechen to post reads when it seems as if they hadn't even read the full thread (mmentioning only my first 10 posts) feels weird, but I like their reaction to ptsd enough that i dont want to sl them dippers sylvie ddlc no srs or post-based sls, I don't believe that they're strong enough to be called as such, so I'd rather vote/nom from lower neutrals or the dippers im sorry i type so slow, idt i missed anyone, and i did NOT write this from top to bottom so hmu if sometyhing needs more explanation/feels weird to yall A couple of things I'd like to ask, yeah. Who would you like to vote today? If you have Fame as a townlean that's temporary depending on what they were thinking of vade, what responses would make you change your read? Were you just checking to confirm the townlean to see if you were on the same wavelength? Why do you think a reaction to a flip from vade could determine their alignment & who specifically were you thinking of? I'm sorry if this is a bombardment of questions but specifically I'm confused on your reads on Fame & vaderaven. It feels like your reads on them are temporary for reasons that are extremely weird and I can't tell who you want to push and for what reason. |
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Post by slowthepoke on Jun 17, 2024 20:25:46 GMT
also STP im gonna start reading ur shit from page 18 beyond micro did u finish reading yet? |
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Post by micromorphic on Jun 17, 2024 20:28:15 GMT
also STP im gonna start reading ur shit from page 18 beyond micro did u finish reading yet? Yes I like your progression on realiti slot and I appreciate your elaboration on my issues with your slot. |
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Post by MyanMario on Jun 17, 2024 20:37:12 GMT
micromorphic I just almost reread the entire thread and I’m gonna be honest there was not a single post that I could specifically point out that didn’t have me doubt myself Will note that after going through, some of their lines seemed to be as if it was enforcing a narrative, ex preflipping although I get that isn’t something really AI If anything I’m a bit less sus of fame atm, still want to keep pressure tho
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jun 17, 2024 20:40:38 GMT
recalibrating for a second, will try and unpack this all over the next few posts
The conflict I'm having comes down to this I think--I like a lot of rea's early presence (felt myself nodding with some of his initial TRs, has an openbook sort of attitude that I associate with village, the usual candor-is-towny stuff). I think we also had a p similar sense of the threadstate in the first slew of phases, like that take early on abt the likelihood of wolves having posted felt like another show of decent townheadspace. Where he starts to lose me is some of the doubling down on the Myan TR (the initial meta pull is fine, some of the subsequent returns to it feel like a forgone conclusion which rubs me the wrong way). I like early Slowthe too, and would like to think their interactions are V/V--STP's pushing and prodding around the initial read feel less like gotcha-attempts and more like a villager genuinely taken aback by what they perceive as a weak progression, I think someone earlier brought up this idea of him feeling less like a wolf trying to keep someone eligible for mislunch and more like a player just kind of seeing their thoughts through and I kind of get that (pg6 showcases this vibe pretty well I think, like the attitude is very much "Make this make sense" as opposed to any sort of bad faith handling). Can also fully see both slots getting fatigued with terrain in a 24hr format where it's occupied most of their threadtime, so it's like. I would *like* it to be a V/V situation. Where that gets sticky for me is some of the aforementioned stuff where Myan reenters (which is for me where they start actually being *wolfy* as opposed to just slanking), like it's stilted and awkward in a way that I think skews more toward wolf than villager, and the places where they bail on the thread or just straight up don't address certain questions (while also being visibly conscious of their posts) don't strike me as someone liveposting w/o hesitation/wavering--and I think that applies to their return to the thread today in the backhalf of the phase, too. Last night they had the strange pop-in to Fame, with the mixing up btwn me/rea and a comment abt unpairing that felt kind of out of nowhere [x]--like, I brought up some of my discomfort with Fame's handling of the slot there, but to stress the room for error there, I do think the points being made by Fame on pg11 are like, solid points--it's just that the delivery (both in manner and in moment) comes across as someone with a foot in the door on the slot, like they wanted both to address the scumminess of the pop-in while also defending the slot to NE. Myan's scattered exit & Fame's "hey I'm expecting follow-up here" felt p classically W/W, too, like partner A flails, partner B responds in a way that gives partner A an opportunity to recover but also positions partner B to bus if needed. Like, assuming good faith, I think there's definitely a world where this can just be Fame exercising a good deal of caution w/ the above slots--but I have a harder time extending that same grace to Myan, esp. coming off pg16 where they seem to just sort of pull conclusions out of nowhere in one breath (the readlist, the TR on micro, the fixation on Sylv and the scarce progression around all of these), and defer elaboration in the other (with Sylvie again but also later in the page, with Winsy). Like, most generous read is that it's a villager just playing coy for no reason--which feels like a huge stretch. Like I think there's decent cases to be made for v!Fame (most village equity here imo) and v!rea (less equity but still decently defensible, esp. with the amount of slanking we have here), but v!Myan is a harder sell. vote @myanmarioif I'm doing my due diligence, then I'll throw in too for good measure- I don't think any of this is disqualifying for Sylv, who's been nonexistent, and along w/ Lechen I think there's something to be said for them having threadflaked without *also* just straight up not posting (see: Dactyl). If Myan does flip green, I think it leaves us in a position to go winnowing (and fwiw I have a much harder time seeing the stuff above as being W/V from either Fame or rea toward Myan)--as it stands though I think I still land here. |
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Post by MyanMario on Jun 17, 2024 20:41:08 GMT
I’m around, not rlly sure of what the votes are because I think a good amt of people changed votes / incorrectly voted so it didn’t count- plan on sticking where I am but will shift to winsy if I think it’s necessary
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Post by MyanMario on Jun 17, 2024 20:43:06 GMT
recalibrating for a second, will try and unpack this all over the next few posts
The conflict I'm having comes down to this I think--I like a lot of rea's early presence (felt myself nodding with some of his initial TRs, has an openbook sort of attitude that I associate with village, the usual candor-is-towny stuff). I think we also had a p similar sense of the threadstate in the first slew of phases, like that take early on abt the likelihood of wolves having posted felt like another show of decent townheadspace. Where he starts to lose me is some of the doubling down on the Myan TR (the initial meta pull is fine, some of the subsequent returns to it feel like a forgone conclusion which rubs me the wrong way). I like early Slowthe too, and would like to think their interactions are V/V--STP's pushing and prodding around the initial read feel less like gotcha-attempts and more like a villager genuinely taken aback by what they perceive as a weak progression, I think someone earlier brought up this idea of him feeling less like a wolf trying to keep someone eligible for mislunch and more like a player just kind of seeing their thoughts through and I kind of get that (pg6 showcases this vibe pretty well I think, like the attitude is very much "Make this make sense" as opposed to any sort of bad faith handling). Can also fully see both slots getting fatigued with terrain in a 24hr format where it's occupied most of their threadtime, so it's like. I would *like* it to be a V/V situation. Where that gets sticky for me is some of the aforementioned stuff where Myan reenters (which is for me where they start actually being *wolfy* as opposed to just slanking), like it's stilted and awkward in a way that I think skews more toward wolf than villager, and the places where they bail on the thread or just straight up don't address certain questions (while also being visibly conscious of their posts) don't strike me as someone liveposting w/o hesitation/wavering--and I think that applies to their return to the thread today in the backhalf of the phase, too. Last night they had the strange pop-in to Fame, with the mixing up btwn me/rea and a comment abt unpairing that felt kind of out of nowhere [x]--like, I brought up some of my discomfort with Fame's handling of the slot there, but to stress the room for error there, I do think the points being made by Fame on pg11 are like, solid points--it's just that the delivery (both in manner and in moment) comes across as someone with a foot in the door on the slot, like they wanted both to address the scumminess of the pop-in while also defending the slot to NE. Myan's scattered exit & Fame's "hey I'm expecting follow-up here" felt p classically W/W, too, like partner A flails, partner B responds in a way that gives partner A an opportunity to recover but also positions partner B to bus if needed. Like, assuming good faith, I think there's definitely a world where this can just be Fame exercising a good deal of caution w/ the above slots--but I have a harder time extending that same grace to Myan, esp. coming off pg16 where they seem to just sort of pull conclusions out of nowhere in one breath (the readlist, the TR on micro, the fixation on Sylv and the scarce progression around all of these), and defer elaboration in the other (with Sylvie again but also later in the page, with Winsy). Like, most generous read is that it's a villager just playing coy for no reason--which feels like a huge stretch. Like I think there's decent cases to be made for v!Fame (most village equity here imo) and v!rea (less equity but still decently defensible, esp. with the amount of slanking we have here), but v!Myan is a harder sell. vote @myanmarioif I'm doing my due diligence, then I'll throw in too for good measure- I don't think any of this is disqualifying for Sylv, who's been nonexistent, and along w/ Lechen I think there's something to be said for them having threadflaked without *also* just straight up not posting (see: Dactyl). If Myan does flip green, I think it leaves us in a position to go winnowing (and fwiw I have a much harder time seeing the stuff above as being W/V from either Fame or rea toward Myan)--as it stands though I think I still land here. In regards to this last part, what do you think of fame and realti if I flip green? |
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Post by ToiletBro2 on Jun 17, 2024 20:50:19 GMT
Vote @fame
I don't like voting alone because it gives mafia more power. This is my preferred vote from those that have votes.
Have just finished reading, analysis to come.
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Post by NightEmerald on Jun 17, 2024 20:50:50 GMT
A couple of things I'd like to ask, yeah. Who would you like to vote today? If you have Fame as a townlean that's temporary depending on what they were thinking of vade, what responses would make you change your read? Were you just checking to confirm the townlean to see if you were on the same wavelength? Why do you think a reaction to a flip from vade could determine their alignment & who specifically were you thinking of? I'm sorry if this is a bombardment of questions but specifically I'm confused on your reads on Fame & vaderaven. It feels like your reads on them are temporary for reasons that are extremely weird and I can't tell who you want to push and for what reason. As of right now, I'm leaning a Winsy vote, but I do want to see noms from others atp consider Fame moved down to null now, I wanted Fame to answer something that hadn't already been answered/heavily implied by vade already, and "wanted them to admit that their read of you being "opportunistic" came from a place of them feeling wrongfully accused themselves in thread" very much isn't something that needed asking, so to speak. Instead, rn I feel unsure of Fame's intentions, they still could be mindmelding with me but there's also potential for pocketing. As for vade, I doubt they'd stop giving strong reactions, so if someone like stp/realiti/me (myan/fame maybe) flip opposite to their expectations, I expect prodding them about it would result in them spewing. To be fair, it's probably a bad idea, considering the fact that a) it's only one flip b) it might flip according to vade's predictions, in which case the whole plan is rather dumb, and lastly, c) it assumes vade will spew (in a way that I can read), which feels like something that should never be included in a plan. If everything somehow turns out to align with the plan at this point, I'm still going to prod vade about it, but I'm not going to vote just to put the plan into actions |
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Post by MyanMario on Jun 17, 2024 20:50:55 GMT
Dead hours funky considering DL
Wld love to see other voters to gauge where people stand, might attempt to start a cw if I’m feeling quirky enough
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Post by realiti on Jun 17, 2024 20:57:44 GMT
Is there an ISO function?
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Post by realiti on Jun 17, 2024 20:59:36 GMT
I found it
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