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Post by PokeCartBeast on Jul 18, 2024 19:50:16 GMT
I said id do this earlier, and i wanna make good on what i said earlier Im gonna start w/ questions and move onto thoughts after 1. You mention earlier during D1 how PD becomes more readable as the game goes on, what do you think of them rn and do you think you have a good handle on their alignment? 2. You talk about how you think Turts D1 is much better than his D2, where are you currently at on Turt? 3. i kinda also wanna ask your thoughts on Myan and what you think of them, so where are you at for them? 4. Honestly, would you be alright with giving Fame a reread and see if your thoughts end up differing? Thoughts I think at surface level / fundamentally pcb here in [this game] is different from Dnommy White and the Hydra at least on a fundamental level - I think one of the big things im currently noticing from PCB is that hes not jumping / looking to immediately town core ppl which i think bodes well for him - Id quote the post but id have to find it, but i feel like the reasoning for why PCB said he was against shooting NE felt rly good - The way pcb isos ppl feels more like a townie trying to discuss thoughts on several different posts and trying to dissect / discuss each post that he wants to talk about a bit - I like the way pcb progressed for me where it was cautionary - I feel like as mafia his approach would probably be different - the way he does it here feels decent and hes not jumping to have me voted / shot and is moreso looking for evidence than attempting to force an alignment onto my slot, like Pcb never seeks to directly throw my slot over the edge 1. I do remember finding reasons to town PD d1 but their activity and their more recent content makes it hard for me to town them still, I feel like this slot is similar to yours to where if i looked further into it i could probably make a better read but right now i'm not really super confident in reading them either way 2. My thoughts on twt are unchanged from when i ISO'ed them - i still lightly town them, mostly for reasons from their d1 as their d2 isn't as good so far 3. I townlean Myan for their EOD1 mostly, I also got slight townvibes from their EOD2p1 but I've only really skimmed that part of the game 4. I'm fine with rereading Fame but I highly doubt I'll change my read on them substantially tbh |
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 18, 2024 20:08:28 GMT
Ok were on the PC now first things first i wanna put together this list For what its worth this collection are not worthwhile D1 chops unless someone can find seriously compelling reasoning currently to chop them (imo) [Me, Fame, Fenrir] Were not chopping this D1
Me Slots that I TR / Feel very strongly about not being chopped currentlyFame The way Fame is currently playing is in a way that I think currently trends more towards T Fame rather than S Fame Im being actively lazy and not grabbing a bunch of his posts b/c I just got home and i wanna lay down for a few but if someone wants me to grab posts that point me towards T Fame lmk and I can prob grab a few out of his iso Creamy Feel like Creamy started off relatively meh and blah at SOD, but as the games progressed I feel like theyve gotten a lot better since then Turt ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/132443/threadI talked about this slot earlier and the above post --> heres where i talk about it ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/132460/threadNightEmerald His earlier posting felt decent to me, and I feel like it tracks form other instances ive seen of NE, so its left a decent impression thus far on me Slots that I dont want chopped but I feel less strongly about from those aboveFenrir Id like to see more of Fenrir but his earlier posting felt ~decent~ Lechen Im partly defaulting to what Fames said about this game and Black dnommy feeling ~relatively similar, I dont have a full read on the slot yet but currently dont think its a worthwhile chop atm I dont particularly care to keep the slots, but i think they lack content to be justifiable chops at the time of making thisdbd Saltycactus Crespo/Toni I havent read them enough, want to reread them, or would like pressure placed onto them or wouldnt mind seeing them chopped currently or some mixAligningstars PenguinD PCB Vade  Slots
Myanmario Realistically this is b/c I want Myan to come into thread and explain those reads b/c those scumreads feel whack I think the other things Id currently like to touch on is 2 reads that I think make sense atm 1) PenguinD and Myan are likely not partnered. This mainly comes off of the both of them voting me earlier, and (yes its a weird reasoning to unpartner them) but idt both mafia partners would both place votes on me together 2) Lechen and dbd are probably not partnered. Fame elaborated on this earlier, and I think the reasoning he had made sense / held water Im gonna come back but i feel kinda tired rn, and just got home so i wanna relax for a few if thats alright Some things we should do before DL: I dont want the vote to stagnate on Myan, i think we should look at / explore other slots (looking at you people that are on Myan as well rn) We should probably It doesnt have to be today, but its something for each of you to think about. Depending on which abilities are given tomorrow: Who should they be used on / given to and why? Idk how much these developed ill check. Most intresting thing from them is the peng read. From the looks of it tho they dont even pressure it tho. Idk i expect more from town prod. This feels like its the main post concerning prods reads and its just not it tbh. I feel like the reason they haven’t pressured peng as much as you’d expect is probably because I’ve been on them and pressuring before prod was, prod just has his thoughts and sees there’s better things to look into and interrogate imo |
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Post by Prodigu on Jul 18, 2024 21:33:18 GMT
I feel like my head is ~around~ here right now trying to take everything in TRNE PCB
PCB thoughts can be found here: ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/133494/thread
Lets go through some of these. NE I feel like ive spoken a decent amount on, and its one that I talked about a decent amount yesterday for why it should get the gun Posts like these feel like theyre more likely to come from T than from Mafia where like NE kind of walks through things / i think its relatively congruent with how hes approached things as T in other places ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/132571/threadI like the way he kind of approaches the game, and how he kind of analyzes the posts that he talks about TLSTP CK
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I feel like from skimming iso, this is more likely to be T STP than Scum Stp, the way he yaps (lmao) is in a way that i think probably comes from T STP
Town LiteFenrir Lechen MyanLechen The way that they wanted to hand out the gun yesterday feels like its something that would more likely come from T than from mafia, where i think mafia would potentially wanna try to push towards the NK or someone bad getting the gun, and it feels less agenda'd when it comes to attempting to distribute the gun Myan Im stating I still hate that they say they have a SR on me, and still havent elaborated on it no matter how many times ive asked. But i feel like their response to being asked about why they were ok w/ voting PCB yday and are ok with gunning him today felt decent, and I feel like if Myan got caught in a lie idt his response wouldve been as good as it was. This HAS to be resorted / reevaluatedFameI feel like Fame had a strong D1, but i feel like at current i cant justify putting it necessarily into town. Like. I really really wanna Town Fame rn, b/c i feel like the way hes prompted ppl is how he would do so as Town, but the things that are holding me back are: 1) I feel like hes kinda coasty rn, and most of D2 he hasnt rly shown up, and I also (idr if this is 100% true or not) but idt ive seen him place a vote yet, which is concerning b/c i feel like Fame should have an opinion and it feels like he doesnt atm, like the questions feel like they could come from town but i feel like the way theyre made comes from a somewhat neutral standpoint. I think what i rly need rn is for Fame to be in thread and give thoughts and votes tbh. NullAlignI dont like the defeatism / not sure what to fuly make of it atpVadeThis has kinda been all over the place in terms of readsTurt
I feel like from reading over iso, theres a lot of filler / not a lot in it, but earlier D1 their reads felt somewhat scattered / over the place? I also noticed how Turt / Vade were completely ok w/ Fame being gunned even though if Fame is T then theres a realistic possibility that Fame is NK and we lose the gun if Fame was gunned Potential SLSaltycactusTheyve done approximately nothing. And i feel like as T mr cactus would at least Do something within that time, so it feels somewhat avoidant of thread to a point where if it is scum I could see an argument for it avoiding thread / trying to lurk as it can in order to not be around SLPD
I'll state again I feel as though Pengs kinda veered out of how his usual playstyle is and into territory that would indicate if he flipped mafia hes in a relatively weak scum team, I feel like its a good place to attempt to get a scum rn tbh vote @penguindThis is for now and subject to move later |
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Post by commanderawesome on Jul 18, 2024 22:17:40 GMT
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Post by Prodigu on Jul 18, 2024 22:19:03 GMT
theres no reason i should be the highest vote like.
9 Not voting is BAD
there are not 9 of you that have no opinion rn
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Post by slowthepoke on Jul 18, 2024 22:29:13 GMT
theres no reason i should be the highest vote like. 9 Not voting is BAD there are not 9 of you that have no opinion rn Tbh im probaly gonna get back on vade later |
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Post by slowthepoke on Jul 18, 2024 22:30:41 GMT
W post
vote @vaderaven
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Post by slowthepoke on Jul 18, 2024 22:31:35 GMT
W post vote @vaderaven[/quote]
[code] vote @turtwigswithravens |
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Post by slowthepoke on Jul 18, 2024 22:31:53 GMT
W post vote @vaderaven[/quote]
[code] vote @turtwigswithravens Fck vote @turtwigswithravens |
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Post by slowthepoke on Jul 18, 2024 22:32:06 GMT
Bro ;;
vote @turtwigswithravens
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Post by Prodigu on Jul 18, 2024 22:33:39 GMT
theres no reason i should be the highest vote like. 9 Not voting is BAD there are not 9 of you that have no opinion rn Tbh im probaly gonna get back on vade later i still dislike that 9 (im assuming pcb will place a vote) so im gonna say 8 but 8 ppl have no opinion on who goes over and thats over half of the game, like this is part of why i feel like im struggling rn feels like nothings rly happening, and its [within reason] possible towns just kinda eating itself [see rocket revolt where the entire mafia afked] |
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Post by slowthepoke on Jul 18, 2024 22:37:06 GMT
I mean at the very least we can probaly assume turt and aligning will also decide to do something. But yeah the fact that 9 people havent voted yet sucks
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Post by vaderaven on Jul 18, 2024 22:43:54 GMT
interesting
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Post by Prodigu on Jul 18, 2024 22:58:01 GMT
I feel like my head is ~around~ here right now trying to take everything in TRNE PCB
PCB thoughts can be found here: ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/133494/thread
Lets go through some of these. NE I feel like ive spoken a decent amount on, and its one that I talked about a decent amount yesterday for why it should get the gun Posts like these feel like theyre more likely to come from T than from Mafia where like NE kind of walks through things / i think its relatively congruent with how hes approached things as T in other places ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/132571/threadI like the way he kind of approaches the game, and how he kind of analyzes the posts that he talks about TLSTP CK
STP
I feel like from skimming iso, this is more likely to be T STP than Scum Stp, the way he yaps (lmao) is in a way that i think probably comes from T STP
Town LiteFenrir Lechen MyanLechen The way that they wanted to hand out the gun yesterday feels like its something that would more likely come from T than from mafia, where i think mafia would potentially wanna try to push towards the NK or someone bad getting the gun, and it feels less agenda'd when it comes to attempting to distribute the gun Myan Im stating I still hate that they say they have a SR on me, and still havent elaborated on it no matter how many times ive asked. But i feel like their response to being asked about why they were ok w/ voting PCB yday and are ok with gunning him today felt decent, and I feel like if Myan got caught in a lie idt his response wouldve been as good as it was. This HAS to be resorted / reevaluatedFameI feel like Fame had a strong D1, but i feel like at current i cant justify putting it necessarily into town. Like. I really really wanna Town Fame rn, b/c i feel like the way hes prompted ppl is how he would do so as Town, but the things that are holding me back are: 1) I feel like hes kinda coasty rn, and most of D2 he hasnt rly shown up, and I also (idr if this is 100% true or not) but idt ive seen him place a vote yet, which is concerning b/c i feel like Fame should have an opinion and it feels like he doesnt atm, like the questions feel like they could come from town but i feel like the way theyre made comes from a somewhat neutral standpoint. I think what i rly need rn is for Fame to be in thread and give thoughts and votes tbh. NullAlignI dont like the defeatism / not sure what to fuly make of it atpVadeThis has kinda been all over the place in terms of readsTurt
I feel like from reading over iso, theres a lot of filler / not a lot in it, but earlier D1 their reads felt somewhat scattered / over the place? I also noticed how Turt / Vade were completely ok w/ Fame being gunned even though if Fame is T then theres a realistic possibility that Fame is NK and we lose the gun if Fame was gunned Potential SLSaltycactusTheyve done approximately nothing. And i feel like as T mr cactus would at least Do something within that time, so it feels somewhat avoidant of thread to a point where if it is scum I could see an argument for it avoiding thread / trying to lurk as it can in order to not be around SLPD
I'll state again I feel as though Pengs kinda veered out of how his usual playstyle is and into territory that would indicate if he flipped mafia hes in a relatively weak scum team, I feel like its a good place to attempt to get a scum rn tbh vote @penguindThis is for now and subject to move later this *feels* fundamentally better now for me now that i kinda recontextualized some stuff / moved Fame into needing resortment, i think i still have room for error on who im towning rn but i do feel better on surface level of this rn |
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Post by Prodigu on Jul 18, 2024 23:03:10 GMT
maybe something that could be worthwhile, since ppl feel like they cant SR/SL ppl
Which people do you think are unpartnered and why?
Like if you had to take 2 ppl and say "these cant be part of the same mafia team" who would it be and why
Like, which ppl do you think cant be working together from in-thread interactions / behaviors towards one another
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Post by slowthepoke on Jul 18, 2024 23:08:44 GMT
maybe something that could be worthwhile, since ppl feel like they cant SR/SL ppl Which people do you think are unpartnered and why? Like if you had to take 2 ppl and say "these cant be part of the same mafia team" who would it be and why Like, which ppl do you think cant be working together from in-thread interactions / behaviors towards one another Pcb and myan |
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Post by slowthepoke on Jul 18, 2024 23:09:52 GMT
maybe something that could be worthwhile, since ppl feel like they cant SR/SL ppl Which people do you think are unpartnered and why? Like if you had to take 2 ppl and say "these cant be part of the same mafia team" who would it be and why Like, which ppl do you think cant be working together from in-thread interactions / behaviors towards one another Pcb and myan Bc of the whole myan and pcb voting each other, and then them also tring each other after doesnt feel like someone whos bussing would do |
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 18, 2024 23:55:11 GMT
maybe something that could be worthwhile, since ppl feel like they cant SR/SL ppl Which people do you think are unpartnered and why? Like if you had to take 2 ppl and say "these cant be part of the same mafia team" who would it be and why Like, which ppl do you think cant be working together from in-thread interactions / behaviors towards one another I feel like you and peng are definitely unpartnered based on how you’ve been approaching and reading each other this game This has already been established, but vade/STP and vade/twt (I think you could throw aligning in here as well) are very unlikely to be partnered here and I think it’s kinda self explanatory atp Tbh aside from this I’m struggling to come up with any more unpartner reads that haven’t already been mentioned |
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 19, 2024 0:10:24 GMT
Tbh im probaly gonna get back on vade later i still dislike that 9 (im assuming pcb will place a vote) so im gonna say 8 but 8 ppl have no opinion on who goes over and thats over half of the game, like this is part of why i feel like im struggling rn feels like nothings rly happening, and its [within reason] possible towns just kinda eating itself [see rocket revolt where the entire mafia afked] yeah honestly this thread is really getting stagnant and ppl (including myself) are running out of steam with how little is happening all of a sudden, hmm |
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 19, 2024 0:26:40 GMT
But in general like prod touched on, your vote is your most powerful weapon, stop being scared to use it. You don’t need to have a strong opinion of someone being scum to vote them, use it as a pressure tool, a way for others to gauge your opinion, to generate discussion if you have literally any opinion at all there is no reason to be idling your vote all day
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 19, 2024 0:30:59 GMT
maybe something that could be worthwhile, since ppl feel like they cant SR/SL ppl Which people do you think are unpartnered and why? Like if you had to take 2 ppl and say "these cant be part of the same mafia team" who would it be and why Like, which ppl do you think cant be working together from in-thread interactions / behaviors towards one another I feel like you and peng are definitely unpartnered based on how you’ve been approaching and reading each other this game This has already been established, but vade/STP and vade/twt (I think you could throw aligning in here as well) are very unlikely to be partnered here and I think it’s kinda self explanatory atp Tbh aside from this I’m struggling to come up with any more unpartner reads that haven’t already been mentioned On the other side of the coin, I think it’s worth asking what if any partner reads you guys have rn. |
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Post by NightEmerald on Jul 19, 2024 0:47:03 GMT
I'm here, sorry for not being here earlier. wasn't busy, just got way too into terraria and did NOT manage my time caught up on thread, i want a couple questions answered before i vote vaderavenps-mafia.proboards.com/post/132902/threadis this the main reason for why you stopped calling ck a deepwolf and set them as a tl or were there other reasons? what are your thoughts on the myan and penguin slots? (really want your whole readslist filled out but these are slots that i'm letting other people talk about for me) what do you think are stp and turt's townier moments (wrt what you mentioned in your readslist) im really torn between voting either vade or aligning, leaning vade because the combo of walking back their turt and stp reads into getting into a 'nuh-uh' argument with aligning into voting aligning irritates me. |
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Post by NightEmerald on Jul 19, 2024 0:49:56 GMT
vote @turtwigswithravens
for now, hopefully they get on in time
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 19, 2024 1:04:43 GMT
I'm here, sorry for not being here earlier. wasn't busy, just got way too into terraria and did NOT manage my time caught up on thread, i want a couple questions answered before i vote vaderavenps-mafia.proboards.com/post/132902/threadis this the main reason for why you stopped calling ck a deepwolf and set them as a tl or were there other reasons? what are your thoughts on the myan and penguin slots? (really want your whole readslist filled out but these are slots that i'm letting other people talk about for me) what do you think are stp and turt's townier moments (wrt what you mentioned in your readslist) im really torn between voting either vade or aligning, leaning vade because the combo of walking back their turt and stp reads into getting into a 'nuh-uh' argument with aligning into voting aligning irritates me. Yeah honestly vade and aligning have just been incredibly irritating to read all game, they’ve just flip flopped some self-contradictory reads around together with no real explanation or thought process, and whenever people start scrutinizing it it’s either some weird reason that doesn’t really fully explain anything or it’s just straight up trolling and filler, I feel like there’s definitely partner equity here and these slots have to go before we can do anything productive. |
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 19, 2024 1:08:01 GMT
Like yeah ik they are voting each other but it feels contrived where it even came from and like it’s them trying to get out of the suspicions people have had about them rather than actual solving process, also just further exemplifies how chaotic and random they have been all game
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