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Post by creamykitty on Jul 19, 2024 1:09:50 GMT
Just under 3 hours until deadline btw so get your votes going ppl
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Post by slowthepoke on Jul 19, 2024 1:21:03 GMT
Just under 3 hours until deadline btw so get your votes going ppl As if that wasnt the entire point of like the last hour |
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Post by creamykitty on Jul 19, 2024 1:23:38 GMT
Just under 3 hours until deadline btw so get your votes going ppl As if that wasnt the entire point of like the last hour yeah ik just wanna hammer it home |
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Post by Fame on Jul 19, 2024 1:27:28 GMT
i need to catch up with the thread because i'm incredibly out of the loop outside of eyeing a few random portions of the thread throughout today (haven't had a lot of energy to play mafia these last 2 days or so)
i'm a bit taken off guard by prod's treatment of me because prod has enough experience with me to know that my activity generally shouldn't be a tell into my alignment at all & i don't typically struggle with, like, producing content or having a presence in games when i'm scum (if anything i have the opposite problem) so i'm not sure how justified an urgent need to re-sort or re-read my slot with my lack of activity in mind is
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Post by Fame on Jul 19, 2024 1:31:10 GMT
i'm gonna read the thread and post as i go so might risk repeating things that have already been said but kind of need to do that bc my comprehension of today is at a 1-2 on a scale of 10
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Post by Fame on Jul 19, 2024 1:33:32 GMT
Before I devolve into a dtunneling spiral, woul dlike to ask your guy's opinions of the twt slot, I;m open and I want to see why people seem to tl him here as well. I want to see what the thoughts on the slot are Extremely out of character lmaooo feels fairly in character to me considering their deathtunnel on you lasted like all throughout deathnommy so what is uncharacteristic to you about this post |
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Post by slowthepoke on Jul 19, 2024 1:35:28 GMT
Extremely out of character lmaooo feels fairly in character to me considering their deathtunnel on you lasted like all throughout deathnommy so what is uncharacteristic to you about this post The fact that they took the time to do that, it doesnt feel like something vade would do, this has nothing to do with the dtunnel itself. |
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Post by slowthepoke on Jul 19, 2024 1:36:06 GMT
feels fairly in character to me considering their deathtunnel on you lasted like all throughout deathnommy so what is uncharacteristic to you about this post The fact that they took the time to do that, it doesnt feel like something vade would do, this has nothing to do with the dtunnel itself. And by that I mean to ask other ppl on their opinion on turt and them noticing the dtunnel |
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Post by NightEmerald on Jul 19, 2024 1:36:58 GMT
actually looking through the aligning case on turt is making me feel so stuck, because there's some good points but there's also even more blatant bias against twt im so done with wallposts so im just gonna give an example this was originally a post about how aligning is a hypocrite for "ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/132953/thread <- Literally ignored what CK asked an pulled another read from thin air. Ck asked for why they sr both me and NE. They responded in a way that literally doesnt answer the question." while they also even more blatantly avoid my question here: ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/133336/threadbut looking at the quote that aligning used, they're super taking it out of context? the person ck was asking wasn't even twt, it was pcb ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/132950/thread . vote @aligningstarsrn i just want the whole mess over with, my shotpool rn is just both of them, lmk if it's a bad idea |
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Post by Fame on Jul 19, 2024 1:37:50 GMT
The fact that they took the time to do that, it doesnt feel like something vade would do, this has nothing to do with the dtunnel itself. And by that I mean to ask other ppl on their opinion on turt and them noticing the dtunnel eh |
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Post by NightEmerald on Jul 19, 2024 1:41:48 GMT
i really kinda gave up typing that, i really just dont want to read more into astars because it just frustrates me, I swear there are good points in the twt case but i just so tired of dealing with both aligningstars and the iso system
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Post by Fame on Jul 19, 2024 1:43:37 GMT
I wanted to dive through vades iso and talk about some things that have stuck out to me, particularly the situation of her vs turt and the progression on it because it is something I really want to cover but haven’t done much talking about in my postings yet. TL;DR: Her progression on turt’s slot feels so contrived and weird, almost like it was planned out in a way with how suddenly she goes from saying turt is townie on entrance, to snapping and suddenly going to an sl then bumping it up to the point of “turt scum, moving on.” Without any real kind of elaboration or visible thought process. ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/132314/threadHere is vades first post on turt, saying his entrance is pretty townie, they’re poking and prodding, and they seem to be attempting to solve. This is not bad, this is exactly what I thought when reading turts entrance posts and why I got to towning him so hastily. Vade then goes on about turts pmeta and how they are more reserved and that maybe this makes the entrance suspicious but yeah they feel genuine so whatever. I have already touched on this but I don’t really know turts pmeta on forums I have nothing to say here, vade just seems to be putting out what they think about the slot. ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/132331/threadThen Two hours later she hits us this post. Immediately contradicting what she said about how genuine turts opening feels, she tells us that it feels like turt is just making reads for the sake of making reads (Well yeah, you gotta make reads to get the game somewhere lol) and says their read on her was fair, she was inactive, but it feels like poking her slot for cred. This is immediately a line of reason I don’t agree with, is the post really Maf AI? This is a pretty normal way for people to enter a thread, get active, and further their solving process, it is absolutely fakeable but to deem it that right off especially a post after saying it was genuine does not sit right with me. Also good to note that she goes an hour and a half without posting, not even directly mentioning or answering those prods and questions directed at her and still goes straight into this post. From what I know, vade is kind of a snappy, aggressive player so this doesn’t at all mean she is scum yet, but it definitely doesn’t make a good case, it is an odd post. ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/132343/thread Here’s proof she has turt as a SL at that point if you ever wondered why I was claiming that. ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/132372/threadPuts her voting ticket on turt here, pretty much confirms to me that it goes beyond a FOS now and she is getting serious about her read. ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/132381/threadFirst post described him as “pretty townie” so I don’t get why she is going after him like he’s trying to spin your words when that first turt post was essentially saying she initially tl’d him, just without saying it exactly like that. ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/132389/threadps-mafia.proboards.com/post/132395/threadYeah you are starting to deathtunnel now… You seem self aware of it and are looking for other people to get opinions from, but does this stop you from tunnelling turt anyways? ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/132423/threadWill admit vade makes a decent point here, it definitely appears that way and I don’t remember turt really giving much of a good explanation for it. ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/132543/threadps-mafia.proboards.com/post/132547/threadAnd now, in the span of about 20 posts, a majority of which are unrelated or something I’ve already talked about, turt goes from “pretty townie” to an overboard sr that she appears to be locked on, without much to say in between. This just feels forced and overly aggressive. If you have anything beyond this to explain why you SR turt then go ahead, but right now I think you’re brute forcing a vote or spiralling into a deathtunnel that you need to re-examine. That’s pretty much all I’ve got to say, throw any questions you have at me. i read through this & looked at the posts you've linked it's one thing to say the read feels contrived (faked, forced, etc) but it's another thing to say that there's no progression there between the townread (which in the OP you link at the start, is fairly light and has some suspicion attached to it) & the eventual SR like actually i think there's more than enough there for the read to make sense from vade's POV |
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Post by Fame on Jul 19, 2024 1:44:29 GMT
or like, at least, it is followable how vade gets from the "townread" to "scumread" because i think from the very first post you link it's evident they're of 2 minds about it anyway
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Post by Fame on Jul 19, 2024 1:47:29 GMT
im back, i mean if the consensus is to axe me then go ahead and vig shot me i don't mind i bet the shot is a mafia ploy to get me dead anyways <3 "only a vig shot" go sleep stp Bro wdym this is legit voting for who gets the vig shot? this whole series of posts from them is basically just a town slip btw |
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Post by Fame on Jul 19, 2024 1:49:07 GMT
if they were scum they would've had to have thought about the vig shot gift in advance, think about how it would be used by other people in the game & whether it was worth it to take the risk of the team being shot
they literally fundamentally misunderstand what is happening in these posts to the point where i don't think any of this took place for them LOL
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Post by Fame on Jul 19, 2024 1:49:36 GMT
did anyone else pick up on that or like am i crazy lmao
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Post by slowthepoke on Jul 19, 2024 1:50:40 GMT
if they were scum they would've had to have thought about the vig shot gift in advance, think about how it would be used by other people in the game & whether it was worth it to take the risk of the team being shot they literally fundamentally misunderstand what is happening in these posts to the point where i don't think any of this took place for them LOL Nah idt so tbh |
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Post by slowthepoke on Jul 19, 2024 1:50:58 GMT
if they were scum they would've had to have thought about the vig shot gift in advance 1”, think about how it would be used by other people in the game & whether it was worth it to take the risk of the team being shot they literally fundamentally misunderstand what is happening in these posts to the point where i don't think any of this took place for them LOL |
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Post by slowthepoke on Jul 19, 2024 1:51:08 GMT
I dont think vades doing that
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Post by Fame on Jul 19, 2024 1:53:11 GMT
ill be threadcamping if you have real concerns ping me or not, I'm willing to gun my most tr'd slot here. vote @fameoh well they do understand what's happening i guess so nvm but still that series of posts felt really townie to me fsr bc it just looked kind of unknowing |
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Post by vaderaven on Jul 19, 2024 1:54:46 GMT
hewwo am back, ill go read back although I have only ~15 minutes before having to go again
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Post by slowthepoke on Jul 19, 2024 1:55:41 GMT
And a bigger problem of that is that i’ve seen vade do that multiple times already, wouldnt put it past them to not know it as scum as well
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Post by Fame on Jul 19, 2024 1:56:36 GMT
Wanna do some quick thoughts b4 i respond to anything 1) we got the gun (which i figured would happen or we get the extra elimination vote) 2) I saw Fenrir proposing we get a shot pool to shoot within / potentially gun within and i actually like that idea 3) CK proposed gunning one of Me/Fame/Fenrir I actually dont think we do this idea b/c and im gonna extend it to we shouldnt gun within [Ck / Fame / Me / Fenrir] b/c i think theres ~decent odds the NK falls within here and iirc if we gun the NK we lose the vig right? So id like to avoid that if possible, also fwiw i think im probably? The least likely NK out of these due to ppl questioning / being unsure of my slot, but imo i think the rest of thread wouldnt be comfortable w/ me getting gun so idt i should be given gun Fwiw, i feel like we need to come to an understanding as well as thread that [the person we gun is someone were likely mutually agreeing we cant/shouldnt vote in the 2nd part of today unless we have a large change of heart] (im psure the gunned doesnt get to shoot until night right? Correct me if wrong) So fwiw, if we go the Fenrir proposed route of make a shot pool and gun / shoot within it we should likely gun the person ppl most likely think is town within it to A) Hopefully avoid the NK B) be able to be comfortable enough that we dont vote them in Part 2 of today yea this was basically the right call bc actually the ideal gameplay for the ability vote would've been to gun someone who would still be reasonably in reach for a mafia miselimination so you either force them to nk there and reduce the slots they can reasonably eliminate or risk the shot going onto a scum team member |
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Post by Fame on Jul 19, 2024 1:57:56 GMT
Wanna also put this here: Ill be dming dnd later most likely so me being around today/tonights gonna be meh at best Additionally, this is kind of a thought i had idr if i voiced it or not (i think i did?) gonna repeat it just in case Feel like ~something weird is going on within [Turt / Vade / Align] and this is kind of based off like the interactions btwn the slots. and im not sure what that is feel like there could be 1 within here but would like to see others thoughts on that i have consistently felt like this trio is 3 town unfortunately and if there's mafia in there it's probably only one i think atm |
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Post by Fame on Jul 19, 2024 1:58:45 GMT
And a bigger problem of that is that i’ve seen vade do that multiple times already, wouldnt put it past them to not know it as scum as well i mean sure but kind of feels like jumping through hoops to get to that conclusion and i feel like they put in enough effort d1 to think they'd be putting in the same amount of effort on nightkills/ability gift decisions too |
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