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Post by Bomb Moss on Aug 5, 2017 14:25:43 GMT
So you read me as "moderate scum" but say you like my back-and-forth, leaving ODM's vote as the main scumread. IMO scumreads should have more backing but given the situation, I'm gonna let it pass till later. 3 more votes until on Champ1604
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Post by bluegummybear on Aug 5, 2017 14:27:34 GMT
hi
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Post by Bomb Moss on Aug 5, 2017 14:29:10 GMT
who is this OOG-ing default avvie Silenced Treestump?
PM VigVig to in as sub imo
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Post by Champ1604 on Aug 5, 2017 17:20:24 GMT
So you read me as "moderate scum" but say you like my back-and-forth, leaving ODM's vote as the main scumread. IMO scumreads should have more backing but given the situation, I'm gonna let it pass till later. 3 more votes until on Champ1604 you stole that gif from discord bans S M H
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Post by BoredGames on Aug 5, 2017 18:18:01 GMT
Time for another Post by me (be graced with it's presence)
Ok, so first, I am going to notice how much of a hypocrite I am. I said in my last post I would try to devote more time. That simply hasn't happened. I am going to say the same thing again. I WILL TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE
Secondly, regarding Fenrir's point, yes, I do skim the threads before making these posts. I don't have the time to go fully into the posts and pick out every other little thing. But with the amount of long posts I have to go through (mainly due to my inactivity and the lack of frequent posts by me) it will take too much time to read through everything in detail.
Ok, time to start off with something I want to bring up. NO DEATHS. This is late ik, but I want to bring up something. So both factions idled at night. In that case, either final mafia member is a lurker or both ww's r lurkers. The second scenario is unlikely, so we can assume that lurkers (including me) could be the final mafia member. I am confused on why WW's would idle (unless there's a doc). nothing really important here but something to consider.
Next thing on the agenda, I'm not getting the confirmed scum vibes overs r getting from Champ. They became overly aggressive at Fenrir before then attacking Xnad, then going defeatist? I can see scum but this could also be defeatist townie, which is why they are scum lean in my books, not fully scum yet. However them claiming that because they wanted ODM lynched means their not mafia is quite honestly bs, so you could say that they are 90% scum in my book, but 10% defeatist townie.
Ok, next I want to address Fenrir again, this time referring the his and Hawkie's "war". The reason I said it was needless is because it's hard to make any reads when half the thread is taken up by two people accusing others of being scum (half the thread is an exaggeration I know). The reason I said ur both town/scum is because it kind of felt like one accused the other of scum, so the other went like If you accuse me i'm going to accuse you. That's why I felt like ur both either scum or town, I just can't see that happening if one were town and the other was scum.
Next thing, Hi BGB! I am going to warn you that your sub didn't speak whatsoever since d1, so imo it may be in towns best interest for u to claim. So yeah, BGB CLAIM!
Time for some reads!
TOWN RAD-Has been positively contributing/hasn't pinged my radar as of yet Xnad-Also hasn't pinged my radar as of late (even tho his town lean read on me even i'm curious about how he got it, but i'll take it).
NULL Fenrir-I want to town read Fenrir, but I can't, because of other forum games, you may seem townie, but you can go either way. Hawkie-Like Fenrir, you can go either way. Lurker's- TALK
SCUM BGB-Ik ur a sub, so this is unfair, but when the person you sub in for hasn't said a single thing since d1, so, your on this list. Champ-For the reason's I have stated/everyone else has pointed out, but not conf
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Post by Fenrir on Aug 5, 2017 19:21:08 GMT
My town lean on Rad is based largely on my liking his d1 (particularly his comments on the hypo debate). There's also what cseel mentioned about his promised to remain active and mostly following up on it, the only possible scum incentive for this imo being towncred and there are simpler ways of trying to get that.
Xnad: I mentioned that my read on you was somewhere in the weak to moderate range. It's probably closer to weak, as I really don't like the connections with ODM but they're just about the only thing I don't really like (the other thing being the earlier mentioned defensive was during d1).
Hey bgb ^^ pleasedon'thatemeforgame31iamsorry.
I am on mobile still but reading Bored posts now.
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Post by Fenrir on Aug 5, 2017 19:34:11 GMT
Ok so
Re: lack of nightkills, only the werewolves have a nightkill at this point. The chance of them intentionally idling is there, but nobody in the game benefits from intentionally No Killing as werewolf so I think it's more likely that there was nobody to send a kill before deadline. I'd be interested in hearing more on why you think it's unlikely both werewolves are lurkers.
Re: Champ, let me just first say that defeatism is town is a problem that shouldn't exist. For that matter, defeatism in general is a problem that shouldn't exist. Your read on him seems primarily based on that defeatism, which didn't really start until late into today. How do his other posts affect your read on him (I know you acknowledge gen but they don't seem to be affecting your read much).
Re: Bgb, ...what? 1. Since when did someone's sub being inactive mean they should instantly claim? Second, what would bgb claiming even accomplish when the only roles one would claim are VT and Cop? What's the purpose of asking bgb to claim? And what about that makes it so that you group all of the lurkers under null but because Zest's slot now has a different user it's scummier (especially since Zest was the lurkiest of the lurkers)?
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Post by RADicate on Aug 5, 2017 19:57:51 GMT
Time for another Post by me (be graced with it's presence) Ok, so first, I am going to notice how much of a hypocrite I am. I said in my last post I would try to devote more time. That simply hasn't happened. I am going to say the same thing again. I WILL TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE Secondly, regarding Fenrir's point, yes, I do skim the threads before making these posts. I don't have the time to go fully into the posts and pick out every other little thing. But with the amount of long posts I have to go through (mainly due to my inactivity and the lack of frequent posts by me) it will take too much time to read through everything in detail. Ok, time to start off with something I want to bring up. NO DEATHS. This is late ik, but I want to bring up something. So both factions idled at night. In that case, either final mafia member is a lurker or both ww's r lurkers. The second scenario is unlikely, so we can assume that lurkers (including me) could be the final mafia member. I am confused on why WW's would idle (unless there's a doc). nothing really important here but something to consider. Next thing on the agenda, I'm not getting the confirmed scum vibes overs r getting from Champ. They became overly aggressive at Fenrir before then attacking Xnad, then going defeatist? I can see scum but this could also be defeatist townie, which is why they are scum lean in my books, not fully scum yet. However them claiming that because they wanted ODM lynched means their not mafia is quite honestly bs, so you could say that they are 90% scum in my book, but 10% defeatist townie. Ok, next I want to address Fenrir again, this time referring the his and Hawkie's "war". The reason I said it was needless is because it's hard to make any reads when half the thread is taken up by two people accusing others of being scum (half the thread is an exaggeration I know). The reason I said ur both town/scum is because it kind of felt like one accused the other of scum, so the other went like If you accuse me i'm going to accuse you. That's why I felt like ur both either scum or town, I just can't see that happening if one were town and the other was scum. Next thing, Hi BGB! I am going to warn you that your sub didn't speak whatsoever since d1, so imo it may be in towns best interest for u to claim. So yeah, BGB CLAIM! Time for some reads! TOWN RAD-Has been positively contributing/hasn't pinged my radar as of yet Xnad-Also hasn't pinged my radar as of late (even tho his town lean read on me even i'm curious about how he got it, but i'll take it). NULL Fenrir-I want to town read Fenrir, but I can't, because of other forum games, you may seem townie, but you can go either way. Hawkie-Like Fenrir, you can go either way. Lurker's- TALK SCUM BGB-Ik ur a sub, so this is unfair, but when the person you sub in for hasn't said a single thing since d1, so, your on this list. Champ-For the reason's I have stated/everyone else has pointed out, but not conf On mobile rn so im not gonna format this out, but im pretty sure bored just slipped and confirmed themselves as not mafia in this post. Thouhts?
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Post by Fenrir on Aug 5, 2017 20:04:01 GMT
Most likely. If it's fake and intended to derpclear himself I don't see him mentioning "including me" when referring to the lurkers who could be mafia.
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Post by BoredGames on Aug 5, 2017 20:48:41 GMT
Time for another Post by me (be graced with it's presence) Ok, so first, I am going to notice how much of a hypocrite I am. I said in my last post I would try to devote more time. That simply hasn't happened. I am going to say the same thing again. I WILL TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE Secondly, regarding Fenrir's point, yes, I do skim the threads before making these posts. I don't have the time to go fully into the posts and pick out every other little thing. But with the amount of long posts I have to go through (mainly due to my inactivity and the lack of frequent posts by me) it will take too much time to read through everything in detail. Ok, time to start off with something I want to bring up. NO DEATHS. This is late ik, but I want to bring up something. So both factions idled at night. In that case, either final mafia member is a lurker or both ww's r lurkers. The second scenario is unlikely, so we can assume that lurkers (including me) could be the final mafia member. I am confused on why WW's would idle (unless there's a doc). nothing really important here but something to consider. Next thing on the agenda, I'm not getting the confirmed scum vibes overs r getting from Champ. They became overly aggressive at Fenrir before then attacking Xnad, then going defeatist? I can see scum but this could also be defeatist townie, which is why they are scum lean in my books, not fully scum yet. However them claiming that because they wanted ODM lynched means their not mafia is quite honestly bs, so you could say that they are 90% scum in my book, but 10% defeatist townie. Ok, next I want to address Fenrir again, this time referring the his and Hawkie's "war". The reason I said it was needless is because it's hard to make any reads when half the thread is taken up by two people accusing others of being scum (half the thread is an exaggeration I know). The reason I said ur both town/scum is because it kind of felt like one accused the other of scum, so the other went like If you accuse me i'm going to accuse you. That's why I felt like ur both either scum or town, I just can't see that happening if one were town and the other was scum. Next thing, Hi BGB! I am going to warn you that your sub didn't speak whatsoever since d1, so imo it may be in towns best interest for u to claim. So yeah, BGB CLAIM! Time for some reads! TOWN RAD-Has been positively contributing/hasn't pinged my radar as of yet Xnad-Also hasn't pinged my radar as of late (even tho his town lean read on me even i'm curious about how he got it, but i'll take it). NULL Fenrir-I want to town read Fenrir, but I can't, because of other forum games, you may seem townie, but you can go either way. Hawkie-Like Fenrir, you can go either way. Lurker's- TALK SCUM BGB-Ik ur a sub, so this is unfair, but when the person you sub in for hasn't said a single thing since d1, so, your on this list. Champ-For the reason's I have stated/everyone else has pointed out, but not conf Soz I forgot about csteel! They are town currently, but if bgb counter claims cop then things would become interesting. If u haven't been mentioned then your most likely null (if ur not a lurker). Ok so Re: lack of nightkills, only the werewolves have a nightkill at this point. The chance of them intentionally idling is there, but nobody in the game benefits from intentionally No Killing as werewolf so I think it's more likely that there was nobody to send a kill before deadline. I'd be interested in hearing more on why you think it's unlikely both werewolves are lurkers. Re: Champ, let me just first say that defeatism is town is a problem that shouldn't exist. For that matter, defeatism in general is a problem that shouldn't exist. Your read on him seems primarily based on that defeatism, which didn't really start until late into today. How do his other posts affect your read on him (I know you acknowledge gen but they don't seem to be affecting your read much). Re: Bgb, ...what? 1. Since when did someone's sub being inactive mean they should instantly claim? Second, what would bgb claiming even accomplish when the only roles one would claim are VT and Cop? What's the purpose of asking bgb to claim? And what about that makes it so that you group all of the lurkers under null but because Zest's slot now has a different user it's scummier (especially since Zest was the lurkiest of the lurkers)? 1-YAY, I CAN MULTIQUOTE! 2-Regarding the WW point. There r 2 WWs, and it only takes 1 to send the kill. So both WWs being lurkers is possible, but improbable. However, after re-reading, Ironic was maf and was active, so did maf idle? If so why? Scum have no reason to idle really, so now my whole hypothesis is kind of flawed. But I still think the last mafia member is a lurker, it just makes more sense in my eyes. 3-The third point. This may be my inexperience of forum games showing but I want to see if bgb would claim cop. But yeah, I realise it is kind of a bad idea, so BGB, you don't have to claim unless ur cop, if u claim cop, then my opinion on csteel flips to null, until we find out who the cop is.
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Post by Fenrir on Aug 5, 2017 21:28:51 GMT
Mafia has no nightkill until both werewolves are dead and is thus forced to idle until then, so the lack of a nightkill says nothing about them.
Definitely if bgb is going to claim cop, they should do so before deadline today. I just don't see what asking him accomplished, as if he planned to cc he'd likely do so on subbing in.
The question at the end of my last post, about why bgb being a sub makes him scummier than other lurkers, still applies.
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Aug 5, 2017 22:12:33 GMT
Whoops deadline was 10 minutes ago, will count lynched now
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Aug 5, 2017 22:14:06 GMT
Deadline!No lynch (0)Swallala/Chatterseel (0) Kind Kangaroo Killer/Zestoflife (0)Shanice the unicorn/Tonithesadthing (0)Queen Erotica/Champ1604 (2) Bomb Moss Fenrir Snakemaster69/Hawkie (0)Fenrir (0)Uberdogedriver/XnadrojX (0)Bored6886 (0)The Great Gatsby/RADicate (0)
Not Voting (7)@chatterseel Hawkie ZestOfLife RADicate Champ1604 Crespo BoredGames Champ the Werewolf has been lynchedNight 2! You have 24 hours!
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Post by Champ1604 on Aug 6, 2017 4:30:47 GMT
Just a Bah! post. well, i'm all up for being lynched today, because I would anyways be subb'ed out if I aren't lynched. And I don't want the my sub to then complain that they didn't get to play much. Well but yeah, just one thing, thanks a lot Fenrir for making the game fun. I really enjoyed it, tbh. This doesn't mean you're town, anyways. Yeah, I was serious about that. Got exams :/ And good luck town/lyncher/mafia/ww. Hope y'all have a fun game ahead.
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Aug 6, 2017 22:16:52 GMT
I'm giving an extra day as multiple people didn't send anything
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Post by Bomb Moss on Aug 7, 2017 8:16:43 GMT
(take it as they idled pls don't let game drag)
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Aug 7, 2017 22:34:27 GMT
During the night, puppy tactician subbed for Toni and Forgottoflush subbed for Bgb Also, Fenrir was found dead. They were not sided with ww or mafia Begin day 3.0. You have just under 3 days
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Aug 7, 2017 22:36:00 GMT
hello frens
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Aug 7, 2017 22:36:19 GMT
currently reading all these goddamn pages for early reads
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 22:36:41 GMT
Nice. New sub looks promising already.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 22:37:11 GMT
WAIT I GOT BROKEN AS MAFIA
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 22:37:55 GMT
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA 2/2! ez scumhunting skills Vote Broken Jukebox
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Post by Fenrir on Aug 7, 2017 22:41:29 GMT
AH HECK
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo...
There's a bah post for y'all.
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Post by clc ironic on Aug 7, 2017 22:48:44 GMT
Fenrir, at least you can live on with your life [had to say that host sorry]
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Post by Rocky Tactician on Aug 7, 2017 23:17:35 GMT
Hi gamebuddies I'm VT though I don't understand this theme very well
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