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Post by Champ1604 on Nov 4, 2017 16:02:19 GMT
I agree that N1 this is probably not the optimal strategy since it takes significant planning, but I am trying to provide ideas and discussion for town in case I get nk'ed or end up sacrificing myself. >All the way, if you're just going to push the use of Oracle for some random reason and not actually show quality play, then you're nothing more than useless. I know for a fact that you can better than this, so please stop already.If you don't want to use Oracle then don't use it. I've also suggested other useful town roles such as Neighborizer, Parrot, or Seraph Knight. Also, why set such high-standards for me? I am badly player. >And one more small thing, greentexting doesn't really help your case if you're going to accompany it with a one-liner.I am using greentext as a way to quote someone and then respond because 1. that's how greentext is used, 2. proboards quote formatting is clunky and difficult to read, 3. im used to it and i like it. Then I guess I'm quoting your words, that we shouldn't discuss strategies already, or discuss their loopholes? I mean, I appreciate the fact that you consider giving your plan so that we can use it if you die, but you do realise that basic WIFOM suggests that you are pretty low on Mafia's nightkill priority, considering that you already have two lynches on you, and in the case of Epic flipping town will just make your case worse? I probably missed you suggesting other town roles, but considering how much you have been pushing Oracle these past few days, I believe me thinking that would be just natural. By mentioning the greentexting, I specifically meant the case where you quoted aknolan, where you "greentexted" a paragraph long text, just to say one line. You could have simply said that one line, and it would be just as effective. So I guessed there that you're using your greentext to show that "what they have typed is totally wrong". Oh well, I would from now on simply take greentexting as a replacement of [qu.ote]. My bad.
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Post by bluegummybear on Nov 4, 2017 16:09:57 GMT
well i dont think he should be lynch for that reason alone but i just realized his recent play and that plur shift is definitively what scum would do. reason being because he lynch then unlynch because he didnt want to see scummy. i see it a way he tried to to do and not be scummy. but i would like to know why did that? also the fact it was so early its not like you arent in a rush @epic So you're saying that scum wouldn't plurshift? Imo your reasoning for you thinking he's town goes both ways. i feel that some people are just dont want those 2 players which seems to be the main scum reads to stay in the game which makes sense rather then thinking there Actually scum to a certain extend. I cannot read/understand this post at all BGB. Could you make a better effort to make your posts readable? Also, what's your reasoning for this? (unless I'm interpreting this post wrong due to poor grammar/spelling) Overall, going through BGB's posts, they seem of quite low quality to me. They seem quite forced, and he doesn't tend to go over them like at all. (e.g. Him calling out "scorrching" for plurshifting onto self; but was actually EC, calling out xnad for inactivity and the quote above ((no reasoning/poor quality))). The way he's defending EC quite a lot rubs me weirdly, and also that he's trying to call out/directing attention to Scorrching as scum because of anything at all, really. (e.g. "What is this bus driver circle i saw scrooch did some post about but i just got lazy and skiped over it since it seem like nonsencce") And due to all of this; lynch bluegummybearFirst of all i am not calling him town at all and to rephrase that post. I meant that i feel like people are on epic/scorch really because they rather not have them stay in the game then actually think they are scum himself(just pointing it out).Also i haven't directed attention to anyone. You misread mostly everything but thats my fault i guess. And Dont read me cause i dont make large post pls and thanks
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Post by BoredGames on Nov 4, 2017 16:28:36 GMT
And, in order to get more high quality reads, I would like you to give me your opinion on EpicCreeper X ScorrchingTheaph. And any further reads, if you have any. Ok, so if the quote thing looks weird (cause it does on my screen whilst typing) then soz. Ok, So scorch vs Epic. Epic seems like more of bad town than scum This may just be player meta coming through, and I do see reasons for lynching epic (the nl, him not really contributing/trying to prove himself as town, his nl reasoning of it was a meme when beforehand he said it was a mistake) but i'm struggling to find anything malicious in it. Also I doubt scum r willing to draw themselves this much attention before night has even begun. Scorrching= Weak Sr Their activity seems forced, their Oracle circle idea just seems like they copied hider circle idea and just changed hider to oracle because it gives them more merit. I can't get anything of more merit to have a stronger sr on them, but their activity, despite being a lot of activity, is just them responding to posts then producing a bad idea and going "at least i'm putting forward ideas unlike EC" Champ= Weak Tr They have been putting forward ideas, scum hunting and haven't done anything yet to make me doubt them otherwise (I'm not willing to have strong tr's rn because it's just d1) Ftf= Trolling town TALK ForgotToFlush yeah,i tagged u. Deal with it. Everyone else is null rn, but I will say bgb and aknolan seem like they're reluctant to discuss (btw trolling town does not mean I tr ftf, i'm just saying this is probs what they r but in reality they are just null). Also wake up fen, start talking again tyvm
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Post by bluegummybear on Nov 4, 2017 16:36:12 GMT
lynch epiccreeper9002 mind as well Also epic You Still haven't answered my question
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Post by bluegummybear on Nov 4, 2017 16:45:57 GMT
For + getting on epic creeper and staying on + not doing anything his whole game (life). Also a worthless player so it's fine to lynch Whats wrong with one reason is that its only been day 1 and he has done something.So what lead you to saying that? Also are you trying to counter Push on to Ftf?
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Nov 4, 2017 17:18:39 GMT
Then I guess I'm quoting your words, that we shouldn't discuss strategies already, or discuss their loopholes? I mean, I appreciate the fact that you consider giving your plan so that we can use it if you die, but you do realise that basic WIFOM suggests that you are pretty low on Mafia's nightkill priority, considering that you already have two lynches on you, and in the case of Epic flipping town will just make your case worse? When I say "discussion hurts town" I am quoting from Zorquax's rules of town and I am doing so sarcastically. I think Aknolan has made a pretty good post about this. I find it interesting how you phrased how you think I'm pretty low on Mafia's nightkill priority. The fact that you think this implies that you read me as town, but then you mention how town might want to lynch me. I also fail to see how Epic flipping town will influence any reads on me. Scorrching= Weak Sr Their activity seems forced, their Oracle circle idea just seems like they copied hider circle idea and just changed hider to oracle because it gives them more merit. I can't get anything of more merit to have a stronger sr on them, but their activity, despite being a lot of activity, is just them responding to posts then producing a bad idea and going "at least i'm putting forward ideas unlike EC" When did I say Oracle circle? I said Oracle Tree. You clearly did not read my posts about duplicating targets. It is nothing at all like a hider circle; the targets aren't even round/looping. What I did do was branch off of FTFlush's Bus Driver Ellipse (because circles are for squares). If you think my ideas are bad, fine, that's your opinion, but nowhere did I ever say anything about "at least i'm putting forward ideas unlike EC." I have no idea where you came up with that strawman, but if you want clarification on my EC lynch here it is. He triggered me by saying "Ser scorrchingtheaph Knight" so I parked my RVS on him. It was actually BGB who first mentioned "oracle circle." Here is his post if you can even read/understand the jumbled wording. What epic did was not that serious and was not deserved of a lynch already, But also i wouldnt support a hider circle because mafia has the option to mislead town unless two people target one person or something. also i was thinking oracle circles if everyone oracles n1 and someone is confirmed(if town) they can out smart and os commute/ hid To avoid being killed at least for night 1. i could be missing something. Thoughts? oh just saw Doctor they could be protected. i can further explain my strat if so lynch epiccreeper9002 mind as well Also epic You Still haven't answered my question I'm assuming you mean "might as well," and that's a horrible reason to jump onto a lynch one someone who already has plur, due to the role Tallier. Half of your posts are ignoring major points that have been discussed and the other half is unreadable gibberish because you're drunk. Unlynch EpicCreeper9002 Lynch Bluegummybear
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Nov 4, 2017 17:23:55 GMT
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Nov 4, 2017 17:37:07 GMT
Eat my ass bored Full post in 2 hours
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Post by epiccreeper9002 on Nov 4, 2017 18:51:40 GMT
Yes, that’s all I have to say. I seriously don’t think I’m going to get unlynched. I’m probably a better lynch than ScorrchingTheaph anyhow. ScorrchingTheaph is gud Are you implying that you think I'm town? If so why? If not, why would you be a better lynch than me? I don’t town read you, exactly, but you’re “townier” than a lot of other players here.
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Post by epiccreeper9002 on Nov 4, 2017 18:54:01 GMT
lynch epiccreeper9002mind as well Also epic You Still haven't answered my question What was your question? ((BTW sorry for multiposting, I’m on mobile and can’t multiquote.))
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Post by epiccreeper9002 on Nov 4, 2017 18:59:24 GMT
See above for my response to the Hider circle comment. The Oracle plan holds merit as well, although I can see ways scum could thwart it (which I'd rather not mention until day 2 on the offchance that scum doesn't actually notice). So do you think Epic should be lynched? well i dont think he should be lynch for that reason alone but i just realized his recent play and that plur shift is definitively what scum would do. reason being because he lynch then unlynch because he didnt want to see scummy. i see it a way he tried to to do and not be scummy. but i would like to know why did that? also the fact it was so early its not like you arent in a rush @epic Was this the “question?” Sorry, it was weirded so weirdly and you failed to ping me so I missed it. I entirely admit to doing that to not look scummy tbh
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Post by aknolan on Nov 4, 2017 19:01:43 GMT
Scorrching I wasn't directing the thing about "discussion does /not/, in fact, hurt town" at anyone in specific so that might be why I didn't notice whether or not it was sarcasm. Regardless, please don't use sarcasm when all we can see is text. My only way of figuring out if something's sarcasm when using text is "is this a ridiculous thing for this person to say?" and considering the fact that I don't know most of you, that doesn't work very well.
The oracle idea is actually a pretty good idea, though it's still something we should be careful with.
At this point I don't think scorrching is scummy, after all, he did try and clear up a misunderstanding, and I have a lot of experience with mafia doing the exact opposite of that.
I'm not sure who would be scum, but epic is definitely acting strangely scummy so that's a good lynch. Which I will not go on because of the tallier thing.
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Post by bluegummybear on Nov 4, 2017 20:07:57 GMT
What epic did was not that serious and was not deserved of a lynch already, But also i wouldnt support a hider circle because mafia has the option to mislead town unless two people target one person or something. also i was thinking oracle circles if everyone oracles n1 and someone is confirmed(if town) they can out smart and os commute/ hid To avoid being killed at least for night 1. i could be missing something. Thoughts? oh just saw Doctor they could be protected. i can further explain my strat if so lynch epiccreeper9002 mind as well Also epic You Still haven't answered my question I'm assuming you mean "might as well," and that's a horrible reason to jump onto a lynch one someone who already has plur, due to the role Tallier. Half of your posts are ignoring major points that have been discussed and the other half is unreadable gibberish because you're drunk. Unlynch EpicCreeper9002 Lynch Bluegummybear
Your right that is one a bad reason to bandwaggon. I wonder who did that? Also by "major points" do you mean stratergy discussing? Can you also explain more of my bad reason ScorrchingTheaph
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Nov 4, 2017 20:14:14 GMT
Nothing changed since the last vote count. Just wanted to say that it's now 46 minutes until deadline. If you want to get your final thoughts in, do it now!
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Post by epiccreeper9002 on Nov 4, 2017 20:50:57 GMT
welp
ScorrchingTheaph don’t forget to ul after hammer for towncred :^)
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Post by epiccreeper9002 on Nov 4, 2017 20:52:17 GMT
lynch bgb
in case anyone wants to last minute shift ig
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Nov 4, 2017 21:09:34 GMT
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Nov 5, 2017 21:40:28 GMT
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Nov 5, 2017 22:01:53 GMT
interesting. I have to go now but I'll have a think about interactions and the like later
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Post by Jodie Whittaker on Nov 5, 2017 22:25:06 GMT
I was role blocked
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Post by Bomb Moss on Nov 6, 2017 1:53:43 GMT
Subject: NOc SETUP (Day 1 Start)
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Nov 6, 2017 4:31:12 GMT
Does anyone have a Tallier inspect?
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Post by Champ1604 on Nov 6, 2017 5:47:18 GMT
Alright, I survived. Yay. EpicCreeper flipping scum. Town, I have never been more proud.
Why wasn't Scorr or me were killed, I have no idea. I had actually anticipated one of us dying, because I was spam posting and did semi-lynch EpicCreeper, while Scorr was the parallel wagon to EpicCreeper. Fenrir's death however, is still explainable since he was one to lynch to EpicCreeper.
Lynch VigilanteVigoroth
This is not the perfect lynch for the day, I'm pushing them because I would like to hear more from them, because they were one of the people who lynched ScorrhingTheaph, essentially attempting to create a counter-wagon on them.
As for why I am not lynching XnadrojX is because of reasons I'm not sharing. And mind you, coming up with fake reasons would be way easier, but I'm hiding it because I would like to disclose them afterwards. As for the condition in where I die, they will provide you the reasons.
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Post by Fenrir on Nov 6, 2017 5:56:10 GMT
(Insert dazzling bah post)
Gl to y'all ^_^
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Nov 6, 2017 6:49:19 GMT
Ok. Most important thing tomorrow night. We NEED someone to switch screamer. I doubt the role I used was switched, or that both vet and I were roleblocked, so Obviously we didn’t stop the screamer
Rude champ
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