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Post by Fenrir on Nov 17, 2017 22:42:17 GMT
tfw Fenrir tryharding also agree with vigvig's question YS, why didn't you go on FTF before if he was your top scumread :I I have 20 minutes rn and sporadic computer access otherwise, I need to tryhard
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Post by Fenrir on Nov 17, 2017 22:44:57 GMT
So after all of that I still prefer a FtF lynch. I'll look at epic's ISO but I'm doubting my opinion will change.
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Post by Fenrir on Nov 17, 2017 22:50:34 GMT
Don't suppose anyone knows the page with the ISO list from Citrus while I continue searching for it.
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Post by Fenrir on Nov 17, 2017 22:52:11 GMT
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"Day 2 (Deadline Nov. 18th @ 6pm EST)"
And here I thought I was 9 minutes from deadline.
Still going at 6. And it's unlikely I'll be on at deadline tomorrow though I'll try to get on tomorrow morning.
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Post by Yellow$¢$Skarmory on Nov 17, 2017 23:02:54 GMT
I was on FTF at first, then went on to EC, but i'm liking FTF lynch more now.
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Nov 17, 2017 23:46:16 GMT
Don't suppose anyone knows the page with the ISO list from Citrus while I continue searching for it. 17
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 0:31:33 GMT
Here, I'll just link to the ISOs through my signature...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 1:27:03 GMT
proud of you Citrus
but YS, what made you shift EC -> FTF?
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Nov 18, 2017 3:17:38 GMT
Have reached my physical limit in its totality This has not changed OM~! I need to sub out
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 4:29:08 GMT
That "I need to sub out" after pressure is on him is little scummy to me right now.
Unvote Spiderz, Vote YellowSkarmory
Right now, Spiderz isn't as scummy as YS is to me right now. I don't like how he's just explaining his actions with explanations that need explanations, and etc.. Will elaborate in a post that should come soon
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Post by Javelinlover on Nov 18, 2017 4:47:31 GMT
holy mother of fuck. i just made a massive ass wallpost and my vpn fucking cut out.......
IMSAs;JNEFUOWGA HUwgwuobr w oggr npw
i'm sorry, this post is irrelevant. i'm really fucking upset though
i'll remake the wallpost, give me a moment
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Unlynch RADicate, Lynch ToniAt this point i'm just trying to stay alive, and Toni has been filler (pointed out already). This may come off scummy, but i'm somewhat in "Try to stay alive at all costs" mode already. Also, i think i know the reasoning for your lynch on me, but it seems kind of random, almost scummy. It was still somewhat early in the day and seems very panicky even though it was only 2 lynches on him iirc. First off - that wasn't a plurshift, and second off - i stay panicky in all games i play when i'm about to be lynched. And i don't really have a way to confirm myself as town (even though i am). I think the 2 random lynches to start off set off my "panic" mode and i just am trying to stay alive, though i probably will end up being lynched. DL in 2 days for some reason makes it feel "too" short, i don't know why. Anyway, i am a black pawn (which for some reason is town, it seems more like black would fit mafia, also isn't there 8 pawns and 9 townies? whatever. This is filler text that will not make me look good.) First off, it was a very obvious attempt to push a plurshift, "about to be lynched" >early in day and you KNEW that deadline was in 2 days too. Nice meme. Unlynch Toni, Lynch YellowSkarmoryI've pretty much given up at this point. Calm -> Panicking -> Defeatism?? And yeah, i think black pawn = bad. Also i think this means Citrus Freak isn't a townie, maybe townie is both white and black? I don't know. And yeah, black does not automatically equal maf, but black typically is considered as the bad side. Unlynch YellowSkarmory maybe i have a sliver of hope now? "I think Black Pawn = bad." >claimed Black Pawn. That's some great contradictions you got there, friend. Also, i have a bad feeling about Citrus Freak. Snce they seemed to be the only one to jump on the "black pawn = mafia", maybe they're mafia? Or SK? I'm making too many posts, but this is where my lynch is going right now: Lynch Citrus Freakok i promise this'll be the last post for a while >was the only one. You really don't put a lot of effort into your posts do you? Or reading posts? "i promise this'll be the last post for a while" um.. did anyone say you posting was bad? Or that you should stop posting? Seems like a weak excuse to not want to post anything imo Unpopular one, but Citrus' reaction to black pawn struck me as scum, almost as if he knew that was actually town, or knew at least that it would benefit his scum role. Only person really to point that out. Otherwise, i don't have much yet, but i'll read back on the game. And yes, i'm scummy. Being lynched D1 instantly turned into panic mode for me, which turned into me plurshifting off self, which turned into me being scum, which turned into me being even more scummy. As I said in the previous comment, Citrus wasn't the only person who lynched you based off of that. From memory, I remember Toni and somebody else jumped on too. You also failed the reaction test imo, since you resorted to 1) defeatism, 2) panicking, 3) posting a bunch of things that don't really help to look townie and 4) OMGUS Citrus's lynch on you (in which at the point you didn't know it was a reaction test) Also, i just got onto a non-wagon. I typically don't have any reads until D2 You just provided a read on citrus... oml. MORE CONTRADICTIONS Toni's reaction seems like something a person who was town would say, though they could be scum. I don't know at this point. I'm confused. I'm just gonna take a break for a bit now and hope i'm not lynched by the time i come back. Again, you don't even explain why you think somebody is scum/town or in this case why Toni's reaction is town, but even worse, you think it's what a town would say but then you say 'though they could be scum'. That would apply to any read, no? And why would you say that TR if you're just gonna end it with "though they could be scum"?? This full post is just trying to look townie / post something imo. Unvote Citrus FreakWhat Fenrir said about Citrus made me change my mind. Not sure who i'll be on next, but Toni and VigVig look scummy to me. Lol, you just easily got off of Citrus because of what Fenrir said, despite you having a bad feeling about him. And Fenrir just looked at the risk/benefits of each side which you could've done, but you clearly didn't look at both sides of the argument and then you conveniently suggest the two people with the most lynches at that moment that aren't you. I'm fine with pretty much any lynch that isn't me. Looks like it's between Toni and VigVig for me, citrus and fenrir. Gonna place my vote on Toni for now. If you couldn't tell, i'm voting Toni. This post is what really gets me. I'm fine with pretty much any lynch that isn't me. Are you serious? Contradictions oml. You say it's between Toni and VigVig / Citrus and fenrir. You say Fenrir made you "change your mind" about Citrus, which presumably means that you no longer SR him. Also the fact that he voted Toni solely based on going on any lynch that isn't him is quite scummy to me, ESPECIALLY since he said Toni's reaction was townie (or what a townie would say) Bomb Moss, why did you get on me in the first place? Lynch toniI thought I did this a while ago, but oh well. And i said vigvig/toni were scumreads. On phone rn, can't do much. I'll be back home tonight. LOL I SEE LIES RIGHT HERE. IF HE WAS ON MOBILE IT WOULD SAY "via mobile" (well not in the quote, but the link). Why tf would you lie about this?? Proof: ps-mafia.proboards.com/search/results?captcha_id=captcha_search&display_as=0&page=2&search=Search&where_thread_title=Knight-Errant&who_at_least_one=703RADicate, can you please explain your reasoning for still being on me? The two posts of asking why Xnad/Rad was still on him is also quite scummy, since he was basically only focused on that, and not commenting on other things happening, posting reads, etc. Sorry I couldn't post today, but will clarify some things. @scorcchingtheaph White pawn being town is just a firm belief of mine. Claiming my color is something I would refrain from doing. Why? I don't want to risk any way the scum can use to find the PRs. In fact, I find you asking rather fishy, if you would ask me. I see this as being scum, but i can't swap my lynch over without plurshifting onto myself. He did kind of soft a PR, but this still looks scummy (maybe SK?) to me. Also, didn't do too much before this, except for the fact that he questioned me and asked for opinions (which was justified) at the beginning, but i have a feeling this is scum. Will look back at VigVig, when i looked back at Toni he was mostly filler with not doing too much. Also, Fort Forces Fine Fusion hasn't posted once this game. Again, solely focused on not plurshifting to self and not just about reads. Pointing out PR softs, focusing on plurshifting onto self, wow.. This is probably the most towny post he has, and it's still very scummy. His reasoning on Toni and VigVig isn't that good.. but hey! At least there is reasoning. Oh, i just got unlynched. Toni is also very scummy though, so i'm still going to stay on that, but Champ is something that i'd keep an eye on. Also, reasoning on why that was scum: Color argument. If any white pawn townies are out there, i'd like to know. (though you may not want to reveal yourself) Focusing on lynches on him again... continues reiterating that Toni is "very scummy" but has low to no reasoning and still trying to colour meta. Readslist (note that my explanations are not very good): Bomb Moss - . Hasn't said enough. Need more activity. Champ/Javelin - Town. Overall, the read-back comments on stuff make me think town on this slot. What? You just said that "Champ is something that i'd keep an eye on. "Town" What tf made you go "id keep an eye on her" to straight "town"Citrus - Townlean. Reaction test was interesting, and Fenrir's take on it seemed to change my mind about it, but it could be to gain towncred. I think he's town, though. He's controlling a lot of town at least. It's weird for me that one post from Fenrir about looking at both perspectives made you go lynching citrus to townreading himcseel - . Hasn't said enough for a full read, but the post pointing out Spiderz seemed town-ish. More activity would be helpful. epiccreeper - Null. The first major post was weird. Somewhat scummy from that 1 post, getting off Toni (scum) and onto me when i was getting more town-like. Recent post makes me think more town, but i don't know exactly how i feel about him possibly being scum. I have no words for himself calling himself town-like.Fenrir - Townlean. The readslist post makes me think he's town, but he hasn't done anything since. Need activity from him. ForgotToFlush - Null-scum. Gets on RADicate during RVS, gets off and onto Toni, then when i lynch Toni to stay alive he gets on me (makes sense), pushes me a lot, then gets off me later because i've relaxed, after some time of not really pushing. Then gets on Toni, shifting. Fine with a lynch on them, probably the one i'm most confident about being scum. You just pointed out his lynches, and didn't say what was townie/scummy about it lmfao.FFFF/Regifire - . Hasn't said anything. Need activity. ODM - . Hasn't done enough, but what he has done is townlean, but not enough. Activity needed. prodigu - Townlean. Didn't seem that good at first, but late d1 to d2 he's looked town-like. RADicate - flipped Town Mason ScorrchingTheaph - Town. A lot of what he's done has been townlike, and i have a good feeling about him being town. He lynched 3 of the at-the-time scumreads, and he's the one i think i'm most confident about being town (besides me ofc) right now. The fact that he needed to add this was weirdSpiderz - Null-scum. Jumps on Toni when he arrives, putting a 6th lynch on them, claims that Toni is "conf SK", then randomly gets off and onto vigvig with "Reasons that will be bad for town if he says them", then he says he doesnt want to claim but might have to "to save town from being stupid", then when VigVig claims mason he gets on EC and says he autolynches vigvig if anyone ccs mason, asks for Toni's PR after translating zor's posts, then claims town white bishop (i somewhat believe) and also says that citrus is scum because no kill, then gets off after a bit of being pointed out that some other way could've stopped kill, then says "if you mean by outing myself outing myself as scum i never did that" is a somewhat scummy line (i can see where slip came from that), then pushes zor. He's new, but this is really interesting slot right now. I'd be ok i guess with a lynch on spiderz though i'd prefer not to lose a town PR, but if he is town roleblocker/maf roleblocker then that helps with the other 2 prs anyway. Spieky - Townlean. I like the way he was going with his d2 wallposts. Toni - flipped Mafia Even-Night Watcher VigilanteVigoroth - Town. He was scummy most of d1, but then is now uncc'd mason, and the reaction to RADicate says he's mason partner. YellowSkarmory - Me. Zorquax - . Has said 2 things in english all game: both lynches. Filler-crazy. I don't know what to think about him. Contradictions later...Phew, that was a lot of work. Here's my lynch: Lynch ForgotToFlush OML SO MANY CONTRADICTIONS KILL ME NOW.. I'll post my comments about this in the post itself. My reasoning in lynching zorq (might be a little hypo but w/e) He was not helpful AT ALL to town, and he has no reasoning to lynching jav and didn’t provide any reasoning All he has is post random filler in different languages I was trying to translate what he said if we can actually find helpful info but it ended up just being MORE filler He is super unhelpful to town and is a big burden to it town Tere, see on kasutuim täiteaine. Täname teid teie aja eest. You don't know what to think of Zor because he's only said 2 things in english, but then you go on say something that isn't English??? oml. please dont make us crack that code I could say the same to you. You also said something in not english that we needed to translate/crack. I'm fine with an FTF lynch, was my #1 scumread. Unvote, Vote FTF I also find it weird how you lynched EC > FTF/Spiderz even though EC was "null" and the other two were "null scum" and you never explained your lynch on him? I was on FTF at first, then went on to EC, but i'm liking FTF lynch more now. This is still not a good explanation to why you shifted to FTF. Overall, he doesn't really put a lot of effort into his posts imo. Most of his "big posts" have either filler or useless info or are scummy which is why I think he is scum.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 5:14:23 GMT
ugh sorry for the weird spaces/blanks, formatting issues
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Post by Javelinlover on Nov 18, 2017 5:15:31 GMT
okay so i fucking hate my VPN everything got fucking deleted i'll try to recreate the original post as best as i can, sorry if you see unnecessary amounts of salt. ok fuck you guys talk a lot. First, I like the pl. Citrus AND Spieky? Is this heaven? Second. I think skarmory is town. This is just an observation since he seems to be the target rn. I would lynch someone else. Preferably not Toni as well since he's a useful player when he's town, and it's too early to tell if he's being fillery or not. Preferably one of Spiderz or epiccreeper. Spiderz for the disgustingly scummy plurshift, epiccreeper for being epiccreeper. Lowkey scumread on Champ as well, which I will expand upon when i see more of her posts. lynch spiderz first off, yes, this quote. it's one of the strongest statements made related to the now-deceased scum. further elaboration on the views of incognito to come later in this post.
now, out of ODM's 11 posts, this is the distribution of content. 4 were filler/irrelevant to game content. Posting in 12 hours, don't sub me like the other shit host Obligatory 3rd post fuck you om room Filler post please ignore unless your name is OM Room and you're a My little pony fan. one more thing, please try to tag me when mentioning me, I sometimes miss an important post that is accusing me of something, this way I can respond to everything and not seem like I'm avoiding people. disclaimer: these posts are not in order, they were on the original post but i really can't be fucked to do that rn 3 were saying townread on YS Spiderz is a really weird slot to me, in that they are constantly doing "scummy" things, yet I feel that it is coming from a towns pov. ODM strikes me as scum. Very inactive, and when he is around, he is fillery and plays under the radar. Want to see a strong read from him, as he has failed to do that so far regefire still needs to psot Javelin wrote a fucking book, nuff said YS is a null, they are like spiderz in that they are doing alot of 'scummy' things, but I dont think he would bus toni d1 like that I think the above post summarizes my thoughts on epiccreeper FTF is being an asshole this game and its affecting my ability to read him. ill say null for now Prodigu is just a bit ehh, like ODM but a bit more substance. leaning scum Fenrir needs to get his ass over to the computer lab more and post. I'm liking what he's doing and we need more of him Cseel is again, under the radar. scumlean Im dissapointed in Xnad with his activity. Not sure why he isnt posting as much as he can Zorquax is a little hedgehog but he isnt doing anything Citrus is a very strong townread Spieky is definetly posting with a town mindset, townlean My strong read is yellow skarm as town. When I have a strong scumread, I'll say so. which flip? and how do either of the flips indicate that yskarm is town?? i don't see it Toni's flip. I don't see skarm being mafia after the day 1 interaction with toni. Hi people in the united states of america, I hate your fucking timezones. I've seen some accusations on me that are mostly based on the fact that I didn't lynch toni. I just want to point out that the only argument against toni was 'fillering'. I personally don't find that to be scummy. So unless you have some other reason you think I'm scum and I missed it, I don't think I have to defend myself. My main townread right now is Yellow Skarmory due to the flip. 2 were defending the top post, including the one directly above this. FTF, aggressive as usual, I personally don't see anything scummy in not wanting to lynch the 2 main wagon targets d1, and your sr was because I said toni was a good player? I also sometimes say that you're a good player. And then I throw up a little inside. and the last one is a weak push coming in without talking first and the only thing he does is lynch someone? Smells like mafia
based off of this, here are the perspectives that i see 1) ODM is scum. he's attempting to fly under the radar with lacklustre content that doesn't really stand out too much. he's attempting to just manipulate things from the guise of a mafia partner puppet. he's scumbuddies with yskarm and is trying to put a slightly positive light on his buddy my view on this: ODM's not dumb. he knows (presumably) that he's not contributing that much and that it'll get him scumread. why would he link himself to a scumbuddy with such a weak point? with that in mind, here's another solution 2) ODM is scum. he knows he's not spending that much effort and not contributing that much to the game. skarm is just some town that he latched onto and defended in hopes that if he dies/is lynched, the association is damning enough to misinform town so that we'll mislynch my view on this: a bit more plausible than the other one, simply because his reasoning for tr'ing skarm is so weak. 3) ODM is scum. reverse psychology.... and everything deteriorates into cycles upon cycles. i'm not going into this one, i'm just going to acknowledge that it exists. 4) ODM is town. he's lazy. he doesn't see this game as something worth putting much effort into, especially because forum games are notorious for spontaneously imploding. he's making surface-level reads because he can't be fucked to dig any deeper. my view on this: probably the most plausible out of the four, because of the fact that his posts are showing minimal effort and the bare minimum amount of effort to keep himself not subbed. with these views in mind, i'd like to unvote ODM and hold my vote until i can figure out the clusterfuck that is FTF's situation.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 5:22:34 GMT
I agree with you about what you said about 2) and 4) being more plausible.
At this point, I definitely have ODM as town, due to other reasons I'll share later.
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Post by Fenrir on Nov 18, 2017 5:33:07 GMT
On mobile testing something.
More on cseel tomorrow when I'm back in the lab, but what are your thoughts on players aside from YS? You've been fairly inactive until showing up to push him.
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Post by Fenrir on Nov 18, 2017 5:34:04 GMT
Yep.
I switched to Desktop Mode while on mobile, which it seems gets rid of the "via mobile" tag.
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Post by Javelinlover on Nov 18, 2017 5:41:34 GMT
thanks fenrir
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 5:42:45 GMT
Jav/ODM/VigVig > Scorrch > Citrus > Fenrir > FTF/Zorquax > Spieky > EpicCreeper > Spiderz > YS. Neutral due to inactivity: Prodigu, RegiFire, Xnad.
Town -> Scum
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 5:44:06 GMT
x/y means they are equal on that level
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Nov 18, 2017 6:55:27 GMT
Fenrir >Thoughts on FtF bussing or being the SK? The latter is especially possible given how he's trying to go after everyone at once.If FTF did not vote, YS would have been lynched. If FTF was bussing then YS is probably scum too, and I can't really see that pairing. 1. FTF could have easily opted to not post and faked inactivity as scum to prevent a Toni lynch. 2. Toni dropped to ONE VOTE at one point in time, plur could've been shifted to anyone there. I doubt anyone bussing. 3. Flush as SK is possible, but that doesn't explain why he didn't policy EpicCreeper. And yeah, i think black pawn = bad. Also i think this means Citrus Freak isn't a townie, maybe townie is both white and black? I don't know. And yeah, black does not automatically equal maf, but black typically is considered as the bad side. Unlynch YellowSkarmory maybe i have a sliver of hope now? "I think Black Pawn = bad." >claimed Black Pawn. That's some great contradictions you got there, friend. Please don't take things out of context. Right after YS made that post, he corrected himself saying "Ugh im sorry i have to make 3 posts, but i meant black pawn = seems bad. Sorry." Also, i have a bad feeling about Citrus Freak. Snce they seemed to be the only one to jump on the "black pawn = mafia", maybe they're mafia? Or SK? I'm making too many posts, but this is where my lynch is going right now: Lynch Citrus Freak ok i promise this'll be the last post for a while >was the only one. You really don't put a lot of effort into your posts do you? Or reading posts? Citrus was the only person who lynched YS for "slipping," before they unlynched and claimed it was a reaction test. FTF lynched during that period of time, but he also said "ignoring the 'slip'" when he lynched, + it was after YS's post. (page 5-7) >As I said in the previous comment, Citrus wasn't the only person who lynched you based off of that. From memory, I remember Toni and somebody else jumped on too.Your memory was somewhat wrong. Toni didn't lynch, but he seemed to agree with the "slip" and Flush jumped on for a different reason. I'm fine with pretty much any lynch that isn't me. Looks like it's between Toni and VigVig for me, citrus and fenrir. Gonna place my vote on Toni for now. If you couldn't tell, i'm voting Toni. This post is what really gets me. I'm fine with pretty much any lynch that isn't me. Are you serious? Contradictions oml. You say it's between Toni and VigVig / Citrus and fenrir. You say Fenrir made you "change your mind" about Citrus, which presumably means that you no longer SR him. Also the fact that he voted Toni solely based on going on any lynch that isn't him is quite scummy to me, ESPECIALLY since he said Toni's reaction was townie (or what a townie would say) We have interpreted this post differently, likely because you are coming from a YS=scum perspective and I am coming from a YS=town perspective. I thought YS was saying that the lynch was between Toni and VigVig, and he was addressing Citrus and Fenrir. When YS initially gave his read on Toni he was extremely unsure: " Toni's reaction seems like something a person who was town would say, though they could be scum. I don't know at this point. I'm confused." I don't find it scummy that he changed his mind on Toni, especially considering how Toni flipped scum. >LOL I SEE LIES RIGHT HERE. IF HE WAS ON MOBILE IT WOULD SAY "via mobile" (well not in the quote, but the link). Why tf would you lie about this??The "via mobile" tag on phone has been debunked by Fenrir, ergo this is NAI.
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Nov 18, 2017 7:24:35 GMT
I don’t understand what Fenrir did with the via mobile thing can someone explain
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 7:31:49 GMT
i didnt understand either
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 7:35:58 GMT
"I think Black Pawn = bad." >claimed Black Pawn. That's some great contradictions you got there, friend. Please don't take things out of context. Right after YS made that post, he corrected himself saying "Ugh im sorry i have to make 3 posts, but i meant black pawn = seems bad. Sorry." oops didn't see that post>was the only one. You really don't put a lot of effort into your posts do you? Or reading posts? Citrus was the only person who lynched YS for "slipping," before they unlynched and claimed it was a reaction test. FTF lynched during that period of time, but he also said "ignoring the 'slip'" when he lynched, + it was after YS's post. (page 5-7) >As I said in the previous comment, Citrus wasn't the only person who lynched you based off of that. From memory, I remember Toni and somebody else jumped on too.Your memory was somewhat wrong. Toni didn't lynch, but he seemed to agree with the "slip" and Flush jumped on for a different reason. This post is what really gets me. I'm fine with pretty much any lynch that isn't me. Are you serious? Contradictions oml. You say it's between Toni and VigVig / Citrus and fenrir. You say Fenrir made you "change your mind" about Citrus, which presumably means that you no longer SR him. Also the fact that he voted Toni solely based on going on any lynch that isn't him is quite scummy to me, ESPECIALLY since he said Toni's reaction was townie (or what a townie would say) We have interpreted this post differently, likely because you are coming from a YS=scum perspective and I am coming from a YS=town perspective. I thought YS was saying that the lynch was between Toni and VigVig, and he was addressing Citrus and Fenrir. When YS initially gave his read on Toni he was extremely unsure: " Toni's reaction seems like something a person who was town would say, though they could be scum. I don't know at this point. I'm confused." I don't find it scummy that he changed his mind on Toni, especially considering how Toni flipped scum. I can see how you could be able to think this, but still the question stands, that whole post about Toni's reaction was unnecessary imo especially since he calls it towny but then says how he could be scum, then goes on to say he's confused, doesn't know, etc.>LOL I SEE LIES RIGHT HERE. IF HE WAS ON MOBILE IT WOULD SAY "via mobile" (well not in the quote, but the link). Why tf would you lie about this??The "via mobile" tag on phone has been debunked by Fenrir, ergo this is NAI. I would like Fenrir to elaborate on the tag thing
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Nov 18, 2017 8:01:27 GMT
test post from mobile. Tag shouldn't show I think.
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