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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 13:46:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 14:52:03 GMT
Unlynch JavelinloverWe are drowning in walls. <Strange =/= scummy rant> okay, complaint acknowledged. you can't just lynch me because i'm playing badly, though. if you could list some things you found scummy about me instead of just detailing why play in general is bad, that would be much appreciated. I lynched you to catch your attention, not because I thought you were scum. i was simply making an observation and stating my opinion, not “Parsing vote patterns and word choice is too hard—hey, did anybody catch that one guy who DOESN’T WANT TO BE LYNCHED??? Flailing, Q.E.D.! He just wallposted! Don’t read it, that’s scum propaganda! He voted someone he previously townread! Flip-flopping! He voted someone! OMGUS! AtE! Chainsaw! Buzzwords! Dread Moloch!” . my case on spiderz is actually built mainly upon his individual vote patterns, not what he has said. actually, i started scumreading him based on an idea that you suggested, that the mafia may have formed an alternate lynchtrain on VigVig to get the lynches off Toni. Which is objectively the scummiest thing Spiderz has done, but I contend, insufficient.you're actually committing the strawman fallacy (which, by the way, you're most likely to attack out of this post), by changing my point into something that not only is easier to argue against, but also completely contradicts stuff that i've explicitly stated. you're attacking one post out of many, and of course it's the single weakest post, the most unsupported, the one that's almost entirely speculative, and the one that i actually stated in the goddamned post that i was probably wrong. ?actually wait lmao i misread your post wait but i already wrote the post and no deleting most of this is applicable to my actual thoughts anyway actually i'll make a proper response, to come shortly. so, actually, i appreciate you responding to my request, and your response is acknowledged. how are we supposed to choose which objectively good lynch to choose, though? i'm not saying that zorquax is a bad lynch. i'm simply saying that i think that spiderz has a higher chance of flipping scum than zorquax does. to numerically quantify it, zorquax is about 60% likely to be scum, because of an intentional lack of content despite obviously being present. on the other hand, spiderz is about 76% mafia because of scummy activity, including but not limited to unusual activity with the deceased scum, an objectively scummy lynch pattern, and a too-eager response to put information out in the open that shouldn't exactly be put out in the open. stuff i'd like to know: Citrus Freak what happens, in your opinion? Today, just going from the usual flow of games with a D1 mafia lynch, we'll probably lynch town with a plurality of <5 and at most one mafia on the wagon.why don't you feel i'm listening? what were your points, and how did i misinterpret them? You continued racking up arguments on the Spiderz wagon without pausing to consider the counterarguments posed by me and ScorrchingTheaph. I was actually venting at the majority of active town, not just you."The "don't question it" bit was probably not in the "NOTHING SCUMMY TO SEE HERE" way. I think it was him being a town PR with the realization that black bishop does not necessarily mean scum bishop. "I think his claim was legitimate, but I'm town PR so I really don't want you to ask why I think so"."is this for certain, or is this just speculation on your part? Just speculation, but it's the sort of thing I find myself doing all the time—despite what the statstics say, chaning my strategy profoundly because some vague possiblity has deep emotional resonance with me. Spiderz is town PR, and seeing another maybe-town-PR get lynched is vicariously stressful for him; it feels like HE is being lynched."Spiderz does not strike me as the sort of person to speculate on claim theory mid-game unless he had a specific reason to do so." why? Spiderz just seems like a very reactionary player, always in-the-moment, and not terribly prone to philosophical tangents like (ahem) some players. The fact that Spiderz speculates about claims after Toni claims means that the latter's claim had a more-than-typical emotional weight to the former. I argue that this weight is because Spiderz, a town PR, feels a vicarious panic for having a potential town PR lynched."And then most notably not unvoting. If Spiderz was the buddy of Toni, then he would have lolnoped right the heck out of there at that point. He even calmly analyzes YS saying "I just have no reads on her [sic] rn", when nobody would have blamed him for throwing his vote off of his buddy and onto the YS wagon then." is this for certain, or is this just speculation on your part? didn't he unvote later? Pretty for certain. Spiderz's vote comes off of Toni only after his claim, and sems to be directly in repsonse to the claim.I honestly don't know how to parse that line out in my mind. I'm going to step back and not read into it. can you read into it, please? it's a pretty scummy line. I will.why on earth does your butthole size vary when talking to people? (it's not necessary to answer this question, i was just curious) It was a joke. A vigorous clenching of the buttocks is a typical reflex in response to stress in most people. I was implying that FTF is terrifying, what with all the yelling and such.Yes, we do have questions: why'd you target me for a roleblock? if you think spiderz is legitimately a PR and he claimed roleblock on you, what does that mean for the roleblock? actually vigvig answered my question nvm i'm keeping this so you can see my thought processes though "Exactly my point. That was a very bad move if you’re town, but a mediocre move as scum, so…" so he's just bad town, in your opinion? i just want confirmation. Yes. If he's rolling dice to determine the target of his roleblocking, that's not good. This is light evidence he's scum over town.thanks in advance
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Post by incognito on Nov 18, 2017 16:18:06 GMT
okay so i fucking hate my VPN everything got fucking deleted i'll try to recreate the original post as best as i can, sorry if you see unnecessary amounts of salt. ok fuck you guys talk a lot. First, I like the pl. Citrus AND Spieky? Is this heaven? Second. I think skarmory is town. This is just an observation since he seems to be the target rn. I would lynch someone else. Preferably not Toni as well since he's a useful player when he's town, and it's too early to tell if he's being fillery or not. Preferably one of Spiderz or epiccreeper. Spiderz for the disgustingly scummy plurshift, epiccreeper for being epiccreeper. Lowkey scumread on Champ as well, which I will expand upon when i see more of her posts. lynch spiderz first off, yes, this quote. it's one of the strongest statements made related to the now-deceased scum. further elaboration on the views of incognito to come later in this post.
now, out of ODM's 11 posts, this is the distribution of content. 4 were filler/irrelevant to game content. Posting in 12 hours, don't sub me like the other shit host Obligatory 3rd post fuck you om room Filler post please ignore unless your name is OM Room and you're a My little pony fan. one more thing, please try to tag me when mentioning me, I sometimes miss an important post that is accusing me of something, this way I can respond to everything and not seem like I'm avoiding people. disclaimer: these posts are not in order, they were on the original post but i really can't be fucked to do that rn 3 were saying townread on YS My strong read is yellow skarm as town. When I have a strong scumread, I'll say so. Toni's flip. I don't see skarm being mafia after the day 1 interaction with toni. Hi people in the united states of america, I hate your fucking timezones. I've seen some accusations on me that are mostly based on the fact that I didn't lynch toni. I just want to point out that the only argument against toni was 'fillering'. I personally don't find that to be scummy. So unless you have some other reason you think I'm scum and I missed it, I don't think I have to defend myself. My main townread right now is Yellow Skarmory due to the flip. 2 were defending the top post, including the one directly above this. FTF, aggressive as usual, I personally don't see anything scummy in not wanting to lynch the 2 main wagon targets d1, and your sr was because I said toni was a good player? I also sometimes say that you're a good player. And then I throw up a little inside. and the last one is a weak push coming in without talking first and the only thing he does is lynch someone? Smells like mafia
based off of this, here are the perspectives that i see 1) ODM is scum. he's attempting to fly under the radar with lacklustre content that doesn't really stand out too much. he's attempting to just manipulate things from the guise of a mafia partner puppet. he's scumbuddies with yskarm and is trying to put a slightly positive light on his buddy my view on this: ODM's not dumb. he knows (presumably) that he's not contributing that much and that it'll get him scumread. why would he link himself to a scumbuddy with such a weak point? with that in mind, here's another solution 2) ODM is scum. he knows he's not spending that much effort and not contributing that much to the game. skarm is just some town that he latched onto and defended in hopes that if he dies/is lynched, the association is damning enough to misinform town so that we'll mislynch my view on this: a bit more plausible than the other one, simply because his reasoning for tr'ing skarm is so weak. 3) ODM is scum. reverse psychology.... and everything deteriorates into cycles upon cycles. i'm not going into this one, i'm just going to acknowledge that it exists. 4) ODM is town. he's lazy. he doesn't see this game as something worth putting much effort into, especially because forum games are notorious for spontaneously imploding. he's making surface-level reads because he can't be fucked to dig any deeper. my view on this: probably the most plausible out of the four, because of the fact that his posts are showing minimal effort and the bare minimum amount of effort to keep himself not subbed. with these views in mind, i'd like to unvote ODM and hold my vote until i can figure out the clusterfuck that is FTF's situation. Ok so, I'm not sure if you want me to answer any of that, but: 1- Thank you for calling me 'not dumb'. That's the nicest thing anyone has ever said about me. 2- Yes I filler a lot, and yes, my activity is sub-par. I have a full time job in a timezone that has a 10 hour difference with most of yours', and i try to keep up with this as much as possible. I'm not making excuses this is just a reason I'm not active and will never affect my performance. 3- I don't do 'weak pushes'. It's just as of what has already happened, I don't have any solid scumreads. Believe me when I do you'll know it immediately. The only read I have is a townread that I will keep on repeating. Yellow Skarm is town. This is not 'association' and 'latching onto a townie', this is my only observation from the day 1 lynch, and I'm sticking to it. 4- You can read into the following whatever you want to. I townread you. |
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Post by incognito on Nov 18, 2017 16:26:34 GMT
2 other things:
Cseel: I can definitely see how yellow skarm would appear scummy to you. However, I don't know what the lynch count is and I ask you not to hammer him. He seems scummy as fuck because he's just a bad townie.
Fenrir and Yellow Skarm: I don't see at all how you think FTF is scummy, I'd rather wait for a sub than get him lynched today
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Post by incognito on Nov 18, 2017 16:28:42 GMT
With that said, I want to lynch the person who I think would be the most harmful to town.Lynch Zorquax
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Post by ❗ on Nov 18, 2017 17:14:47 GMT
unlynch jav
lynch odm
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Post by OM~! on Nov 18, 2017 17:17:02 GMT
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Post by Yellow$¢$Skarmory on Nov 18, 2017 17:30:03 GMT
Spiderz has 2 votes and 1 person on him.
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Post by Yellow$¢$Skarmory on Nov 18, 2017 17:31:00 GMT
And yeah, if you go on desktop thing on mobile, it doesn't show "via mobile".
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 18:56:10 GMT
I have no scumreads at the present time, but I do know the ❗ spot is useless (sorry) and the Fort Colorcastle / regifire spot has been completely silent. We are unlikely to get anything out of the latter two; I recommend burning a ML on them. Lynch Zorquax because regifire might eventually show up and help. Analysis of epiccreeper's ISO: Only four posts of his had meaningful content. In historical order: Wow, that was a lot of reading.
Everyone seems to think Citrus is town for whatever the heck they did there. However, keep in mind that they pretty much outed a power role. FoS Citrus
Another thing that came up a few times was my early Toni lynch. That was a m e m e l y n c h (also kind of a hatelynch) because seriously, it's not a game of PS!Mafia without a memelynch. Unlynch Toni
Personally, YellowSkarmory's reaction seemed scummy to me. eww defeatism burn it Lynch YellowSkarmory
That leaves me with my one big point: the colors argument as a whole is a bad idea. Because everyone should know the correct colors: Mafia know their color (White in this case), and know that Town must be Black, and vice versa. Probably the only role that doesn't know the correct colors is the Cereal Killer (inb4 gray).
One last thing: ForgotToFlush I'm still awaiting your answer for why the heck would you want to policy me? Part of me thinks this is going to lead to another lock for being tormented by other users and doing what's right."Outed a power role" = implicitly assuming Toni was town PR, slight scumtell. Memelynch a mafia, unlynch once a wagon starts on them = slight scumtell. Easy BW onto YS with the NAI "defeatism" argument = slight scumtell. Argues that flavor-telling by coloration is a bad idea = interesting, but NAI. I think he was the first person in the game to raise this possibiity, so slight TR. We don't actually know what "black bishop" does smh obligatory 3rd post more than anything tbh Again, implicitly believes Toni's claim without much reason to do so. Slight scumtell. I don't know why it's important in his mind to know what specifically "black bishop" does when {POTENTIAL TOWN PR!} is the only fact that should matter. Some of those combinations are not possible because I am Rb and Toni is even night watcher I believe First things first, I kinda think this message is a slip. I can't really explain why, I just do. lynch spiderz
I'd like to point out: I read the theme and it says that the SK JOAT actually gets the JOAT abilities of all the other power roles plus one Strongman kill. And the SK can use two actions per night, but Mafia can only use one. (OM probably said this already tbh)
If spiderz is town roleblocker, then the three possibilities for the other two PRs are Mafia RB/Town Cop, Mafia Godfather (basically Goon in this case)/Town JK, and Mafia Godfather (again, effectively a Goon)/Town BP. The Mafia RB/Town Cop combo happens twice (so has a 50% chance, the other two have a 25% chance each). If spiderz is mafia roleblocker, then the four possibilities (all town) are JK/BP, RB/Cop, GS/BP, and Tracker/Cop. So yeah, I'm with ScorrchingTheaph, who suggested hypo. We should also hypo with the other targets, I guess. cop/gunsmith on ftf not guilty, tracker on javelinlover went nowhere, blocked scorrchingtheaph, jailkept prodigu
What's the difference between Cop and GS in this, anyways?
idk what else to say in this post so have some greentext.
>mixed colors
>only 1 nk
>nighttalking to point out that i nighttalked to advertise the Stop Nighttalking Foundation
Oh yeah. Should I actually make the Stop Nighttalking Foundation a thing lol Calls something a slip, egregious enough to lynch, but doesn't even know why it's a slip. -scum Reiterates relevant information about the theme that other people didn't realize, +town Gunsmith gets a positive result on cops and mafia, but a negative on SK.
If Spiderz was mafia roleblocker, there would be no reason for him to specifically claim town roleblocker, instead of generic town PR. At least, no more evidence than he as normal mafia. There's no evidence that mafia!spiderz is anything more than a goon, because only a goon would run a play that risky. Hypo-ing, so that's good. NAI, though. smh quoted 6 times today
I've thought of a way to explain why I think spiderz slipped: saying Toni "is" even-night watcher while they were dead, which makes me feel like they were partners. Now can you guys stop using me as an easy read for towncred?
enjoying ForgotToFlush 's post on me where half the things he said are irrelavant to the actual game also, them policying me for being a "bad player." let's see you do better :^) also, what keeps me from policying you for just generally being a jerk, then?
i'm just Black Pawn aka VT, so yeah. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ glhf town, except ftf I guess that's a mild slip, sure, but it's insufficient. Rest of post is complaining, and "let's see you do better" is a dangerous line. Claims VT despite this being a bad idea, but his color is consistent with his previous "black is town" assertion. +town DO NOT EVER CLAIM VT, IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR MAFIA TO HIT POWER ROLES IF YOU ARE NOT EVENTUALLY LYNCHED.All things considered, epiccreeper is a weak nullscum for me. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 18:56:50 GMT
Plurality on Zorquax with four now, next runner up is EC with three.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 18:57:17 GMT
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Post by Javelinlover on Nov 18, 2017 19:54:21 GMT
by the way, i can say for certain that your color has no effect on your alignment
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Post by ❗ on Nov 18, 2017 21:30:43 GMT
I have no scumreads at the present time, but I do know the ❗ spot is useless (sorry) and the Fort Colorcastle / regifire spot has been completely silent. We are unlikely to get anything out of the latter two; I recommend burning a ML on them. Lynch Zorquax because regifire might eventually show up and help.salt salt salt this is why mr cheeves was lynched d1 instead of the mafia who was obv lurking |
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Post by Javelinlover on Nov 18, 2017 22:51:23 GMT
10 minutes to deadline and i'm engaging in life threatening activities at robotics and no one seems to be here so can i request an extension thanks OM~! |
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Post by Yellow$¢$Skarmory on Nov 18, 2017 23:30:55 GMT
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Post by OM~! on Nov 18, 2017 23:44:45 GMT
OOPS. DEADLINE.❗ was lynched He was... Hello Zorquax!  You are a Black Pawn (Vanilla Townie) You have no special powers outside of your lynch. You are allied with the Townsfolk and win when all other factions are eliminated. |
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Post by OM~! on Nov 18, 2017 23:45:13 GMT
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Post by ❗ on Nov 19, 2017 5:22:40 GMT
surprise surprise gl town
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Post by OM~! on Nov 20, 2017 14:57:32 GMT
OK FOLKS!!! Thunder~Ballz and Prodigu died last night. They were... Hello Thunder~Ballz!  You are a White Pawn (Vanilla Townie) You have no special powers outside of your lynch. You are allied with the Townsfolk and win when all other factions are eliminated. Hello prodigu! You are a White Pawn (Mafia Goon) You can perform the Factional Kill and use your lynch to your advantage. You are allied with the Mafia and win when your faction achieves Majority (or 50%).  It is now Day 3. Deadline is at November 23rd, 2017 @ 6pm .The current setup is 2v1v10. |
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Post by Prodigu on Nov 20, 2017 15:22:41 GMT
Rip >_>
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Post by spiderz on Nov 20, 2017 15:40:41 GMT
Coolio rbed Cseel kinda seemed scummy to me
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Post by Yellow$¢$Skarmory on Nov 20, 2017 15:56:11 GMT
Nice, 2 mafia down. Placing my lynch on who i thought was scum yesterday outside of FTF's slot which is now dead:
Lynch EpicCreeper9002
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Post by spiderz on Nov 20, 2017 16:38:43 GMT
Same lynch epic creeper
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