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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Dec 28, 2017 9:46:45 GMT
what the h*ck why have i not received a sekret message back… The message i put in the x's. If anyone has seen it, please respond in the same manner. "H*ck" is censored because it is a bad word. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 9:53:17 GMT
i still dont get it
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Dec 28, 2017 9:56:54 GMT
His ISO. Not actually gonna spoil the surprise unless you want me to.
Like I am actually not joking when I say more information is to be had with that exact paint (and letting CV choose of course) than any other potential pair. I don't get it. |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Dec 28, 2017 10:03:07 GMT
Theoretically speaking, if you were trying to encrypt a message to your traitor partner, how would you do it? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 10:04:50 GMT
the way you did (if I knew how to do it) since it's clearly so good that i can't see it .-.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 10:41:51 GMT
btw if you're gonna ask why one post out of all my other posts were a different font, it was because I had to c/p the xxxxxxx + font just in case it had something to do with the font.
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Dec 28, 2017 11:32:27 GMT
Why y’all talking about secret messages only things secret messages could be used for is like scum communicating but that could be Risky anyway
Citrus seems to think it would beneficial to see who vig chooses out of me/scorch if we were targets. /me confuse
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 11:59:35 GMT
Why y’all talking about secret messages only things secret messages could be used for is like scum communicating but that could be Risky anyway Exactly why I'm trying to figure out what it is, it might be a signal bc he's scum or something? me don't know...Citrus seems to think it would beneficial to see who vig chooses out of me/scorch if we were targets. /me confuse When did he specifically state that it would be "beneficial"? He just said that he painted you and Scorrch as shot targets and he explained his reads on you two. Well, I guess it would be beneficial in the way of helping town since he SRs you two, but from the context, I don't think you meant it like that. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 12:11:32 GMT
Actually, since we have roughly a day and a half of time left in this day, I would like to ul nl and lynch VigilanteVigoroth
He's merely just responding to things/only talking about things that relate to him and not putting any effort in at all (refer to his most recent post)
His early day 2 posts were just weird filler? Not sure if he was trying to signal something or anything, but it was reaaaaaally weird filler.
His day 1 activity was relatively under average, but I can't say much about that as I didn't do much day 1 either.
His 2 main posts.
"Gonna chime in with a slight problem with if we end up voting the Vigilante. What would he do? Having him shoot the second most voted person would still confirm him as vig. The only solution I can see is
A) leave it up to the Vigilante completely <— pros and cons already explained
B) vote 2 people, and have Vig pick one himself.
This however, combines the issue of scum toying with the Vig shot, and the Vig’s questionable judgement. Therefore I say we just trust the Vigilante to make the shot"
Why suggest B) if you're just going to brush it off immediately lol, and especially since we have no way to officially have 2 people voted, as people will have different reads. iirc, at the time he posted this, other people had already said most of this (apart from the b) part, of course), so he was merely just parroting, while suggesting a redundant idea to look like he's trying to be pro-town.
Next post was just the standard policy on FTF for suggesting the hypoing roleblocker's roleblock, so not much there, especially since we can't draw anything out of this, since it was day 1, and scum didn't get any inspects yet.
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Post by Bomb Moss on Dec 28, 2017 12:49:37 GMT
can't post for today, posting more next day
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Post by qtball on Dec 28, 2017 13:10:55 GMT
ok I'm like 90% sure Durza is scum... for reasons that I can't seem to put my finger on (I'm terribad at forum let alone NOC) but it's just a gut read if anything right now. Second guess for scum would be cseel / VigVig out naturally just reading them. I feel like scum kinda of hid behind the BS that was xnad / ftf / etc and just let things play out and remain hidden... ofc I shouldn't even be talking since that's pmuch what I did but yeah I'm sorry for the lack of inactivity js I'm like 90% sure I didn't send an idle but ya know it's fine I get scum read often so yeah
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 17:05:05 GMT
Why y’all talking about secret messages only things secret messages could be used for is like scum communicating but that could be Risky anyway Citrus seems to think it would beneficial to see who vig chooses out of me/scorch if we were targets. /me confuse |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 17:10:07 GMT
What? And why are you censoring "heck"? The message i put in the x's. If anyone has seen it, please respond in the same manner. "H*ck" is censored because it is a bad word. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 17:11:16 GMT
I have lots to say right now, but I can't say it until tomorrow. Kindly either lynch a lurker or no-one at all, preferably the latter.
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Dec 28, 2017 17:56:35 GMT
His ISO. Not actually gonna spoil the surprise unless you want me to.
Like I am actually not joking when I say more information is to be had with that exact paint (and letting CV choose of course) than any other potential pair. Why y’all talking about secret messages only things secret messages could be used for is like scum communicating but that could be Risky anyway Exactly why I'm trying to figure out what it is, it might be a signal bc he's scum or something? me don't know...Citrus seems to think it would beneficial to see who vig chooses out of me/scorch if we were targets. /me confuse When did he specifically state that it would be "beneficial"? He just said that he painted you and Scorrch as shot targets and he explained his reads on you two. Well, I guess it would be beneficial in the way of helping town since he SRs you two, but from the context, I don't think you meant it like that.imagine the first quote as a response to the first since proboards is lame |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Dec 28, 2017 19:39:29 GMT
Time to clear things up. First off, the message you'd get after decoding it would be "imcompvig" in an attempt to either get scum to nightkill me or confused scum to attempt to signal back. It was a risky play if real compvig saw and decided to shoot me, but I think it played out pretty well. The only hidden response I got was from Citrus, and it was an extremely townie reaction. If they want to reveal their message or not is up to them. I would like to point out how VigVig's response was just, "Why y’all talking about secret messages only things secret messages could be used for is like scum communicating but that could be Risky anyway." He states that sending messages is something only scum would do, but for some reason he does not even mention a slight scumread on me. I think he is a traitor who thought I was traitor.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 21:39:36 GMT
OH COME ON
Alright, here's what happened: Vig claimed CV at the beginning of today. I said something along the lines of "I hope you're not claiming because if you were claiming that would be stupid". He got the message, dumbtold/retracted and pretended that he didn't claim, and nobody else seemed to pick up on it. I thought he was confirmed. Then Scorrch put a hidden message in binary in one of his posts where he claimed CV. Suddenly I realized I had two CV cc's, both of whom likely didn't know the other existed. I have no idea which one is legitimate. Again, nobody besides me seemed to pick up on this; I tried to subtly convince Scorch to shut up about it, but then he was like "hey guys I softed it was so sneaky and clever did you see my soft???" So I responded in code telling him to shut up, which he did not do.
I painted the duo Vig/Scorrch knowing that whoever was the real CV in that pair would shoot the fake-claimer without realizing was happening. Now they're going to die anyway, but CV likely dies from the 1-shot traitor vig. So that's nice /s
I do not believe Scorrch's retraction.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 21:44:26 GMT
I do not believe Scorrch's retraction because 1) his fancy newly discovered scumtell on VigVig is crap 2) for a gambit as risky as a townie fake-claiming, Scorch does not appeared to have expected anything more than mere reads as reward 3) it is convenient, don't you think, that the person he found the new scum read on is also his CV cc 4) unclaiming is complete crap.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 23:27:07 GMT
Time to clear things up. First off, the message you'd get after decoding it would be "imcompvig" in an attempt to either get scum to nightkill me or confused scum to attempt to signal back. smh in the message I said "xxxxxxx", if you decoded it, it would've said "isawitsmh". It was a risky play if real compvig saw and decided to shoot me, but I think it played out pretty well. The only hidden response I got was from Citrus, and it was an extremely townie reaction. If they want to reveal their message or not is up to them. I would like to point out how VigVig's response was just, "Why y’all talking about secret messages only things secret messages could be used for is like scum communicating but that could be Risky anyway." He states that sending messages is something only scum would do, but for some reason he does not even mention a slight scumread on me. I think he is a traitor who thought I was traitor. I agree with most of this, but even then, if he was traitor, why would he explicitly say that, instead of just trying to decode it (if he was traitor)?unlynch nl
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Post by Fenrir on Dec 29, 2017 0:08:54 GMT
Votecount 2.2
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VigilanteVigoroth(3)- Champ1604 , @howdoitagyou , ScorrchingTheaph cseel(1)- ajhockeystar Agent Orange(1)- qtball ScorrchingTheaph(1)- Citrus Freak No Lynch(0)- Bringer of Chaos, Zeke(0)-Champ∞1604(0)-Thunder~BALLZ(0)-ajhockeystar(0)-Space Birds(0)-Not Voting(3)- Durza , Bomb Moss , VigilanteVigoroth ******************************There are 9 alive so it takes 5 to hammer. Plurality applies. Deadline is Friday the 29th at 7pm EST. If the deadline was now, VigilanteVigoroth would be lynched.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2017 0:29:50 GMT
Champ1604 , @howdoitagyou , please remove your meme lynches, I know VigVig's a doodyhead and a serial fillerer, but we have bigger fish to fry. Please consider lynching Scorrch for these reasons:OH COME ON
Alright, here's what happened: Vig claimed CV at the beginning of today. I said something along the lines of "I hope you're not claiming because if you were claiming that would be stupid". He got the message, dumbtold/retracted and pretended that he didn't claim, and nobody else seemed to pick up on it. I thought he was confirmed. Then Scorrch put a hidden message in binary in one of his posts where he claimed CV. Suddenly I realized I had two CV cc's, both of whom likely didn't know the other existed. I have no idea which one is legitimate. Again, nobody besides me seemed to pick up on this; I tried to subtly convince Scorch to shut up about it, but then he was like "hey guys I softed it was so sneaky and clever did you see my soft???" So I responded in code telling him to shut up, which he did not do.
I painted the duo Vig/Scorrch knowing that whoever was the real CV in that pair would shoot the fake-claimer without realizing was happening. Now they're going to die anyway, but CV likely dies from the 1-shot traitor vig. So that's nice /s
I do not believe Scorrch's retraction. I do not believe Scorrch's retraction because 1) his fancy newly discovered scumtell on VigVig is crap 2) for a gambit as risky as a townie fake-claiming, Scorch does not appeared to have expected anything more than mere reads as reward 3) it is convenient, don't you think, that the person he found the new scum read on is also his CV cc 4) unclaiming is complete crap.
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Dec 29, 2017 0:30:46 GMT
>I painted the duo Vig/Scorrch knowing that whoever was the real CV in that pair would shoot the fake-claimer without realizing was happening. Now they're going to die anyway, but CV likely dies from the 1-shot traitor vig. So that's nice /s
I suspected that you suspected one of me/vigvig to be vig which is why you had that odd pairing.
>or a gambit as risky as a townie fake-claiming, Scorch does not appeared to have expected anything more than mere reads as reward
You think I gambited a hidden fake-claim of vig as scum? That's asking for a death sentence.
>it is convenient, don't you think, that the person he found the new scum read on is also his CV cc
Initially I thought VigVig was town attempting to hypo vig, but his response was no bueno. If he is CV I quit mafia.
>unclaiming is complete crap.
VigVig unclaimed too.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2017 0:31:01 GMT
Actually, since we have roughly a day and a half of time left in this day, I would like to ul nl and lynch VigilanteVigoroth He's merely just responding to things/only talking about things that relate to him and not putting any effort in at all (refer to his most recent post) His early day 2 posts were just weird filler? Not sure if he was trying to signal something or anything, but it was reaaaaaally weird filler. His day 1 activity was relatively under average, but I can't say much about that as I didn't do much day 1 either. His 2 main posts. "Gonna chime in with a slight problem with if we end up voting the Vigilante. What would he do? Having him shoot the second most voted person would still confirm him as vig. The only solution I can see is A) leave it up to the Vigilante completely <— pros and cons already explained B) vote 2 people, and have Vig pick one himself. This however, combines the issue of scum toying with the Vig shot, and the Vig’s questionable judgement. Therefore I say we just trust the Vigilante to make the shot" Why suggest B) if you're just going to brush it off immediately lol, and especially since we have no way to officially have 2 people voted, as people will have different reads. iirc, at the time he posted this, other people had already said most of this (apart from the b) part, of course), so he was merely just parroting, while suggesting a redundant idea to look like he's trying to be pro-town. Next post was just the standard policy on FTF for suggesting the hypoing roleblocker's roleblock, so not much there, especially since we can't draw anything out of this, since it was day 1, and scum didn't get any inspects yet. Yeah, great meme vote on vigvig here, I see. smh Citrus. |
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Post by ajhockeystar on Dec 29, 2017 0:31:02 GMT
3 vigvig (champ, cseel, scorrch) 1 cseel (aj) 1 durza (tballz) 1 scorrch (citrus) Wow a lot has happened. I’ve been on vacation- last time I read over right before I got on the plane so I didn’t have a chance to post, rip. But now I can! Regarding everything that’s happened… “What the h*ck”  (let’s make that a meme please) Let’s start by responding to this message of champ’s: Post #40187 made by @ajhockeystar The line about FTF, well, seem like they are the perfect so-called "Free Towncredit" lines, when you go 'reread' the scumflip and judge them as 'obvious' scum. Though I will go on and apply playermeta, that ajhockeystar isn't the person who will try a trick that cheap, and that their words are from their heart. Am I wrong, aj? I decided to look back after the flip and it just felt more obvious in hindsight. The voting for vig shot (I mean that’s an opinion, but imo scum is more likely to choose the voting thing), the “backtracking” argument against me when it really wasn’t along with saying he’s okay with a “scum town leader”, and asking for roleblock hypos… I guess I thought no scum would be stupid enough to do that last one. I just said it because that’s how I felt after reading through all that, I had no idea people actually say that to gain towncred. (idk how it does either, but sure) also, tfw citrus thought I was being serious with my RVS meme post (as seen here:) Heya guys I'm using a unique font face so I feel special and people pay attention to me!
Anyway, I've been thinking a lot about this game, and I've come to a few thoughts:alright, scum buddies please reveal yourselves, we need to work out a plan pls and ty
Cseel is the first with theory, and it's pretty alignment-neutral. Champ has the first reads, and they are honest. Answering your question, I would signal for a roleblock if I thought the other mafia already knew my identity. Though I do have to wonder why you'd even publicly consider that now. This could cry well be signaling; FOS Champ
+town to Zeke/xnadrojx for recognizing the badness of FTF's speed strategy.
Scorrching really wants turbo; NAI but annoying. Actually, if anything it's town-ish, because it attracts lots of bad attention to him. Town tends to be somewhat more comfortable acting intentionally erratically.
Cseel and Champ are making some high-quality posts so far, but they're theory, and if theory was a legitimate reason for a towntell then I would not be bad at Mafia. I will say, though, you (Cseel) neglect to mention that a second vote system for suggesting shots takes up precious time and mental energy, so much so that not even you tried to suggest a shot that way.If the traitor osvig is killed early game, I think it would be beneficial for comp vig to claim early so that scum rb can not cc in mylo/lylo situations. Firstly you can disagree with my opinion but why does that make me scum opposed to just a town having a different opinion? That was a very town-like way to put it. >>Does anyone know if xnadrojx is this rational and even-handedly wise in his other games?<<Slight TR on AJ for doing shit though, pls don't let this be medmaf because it's an actual good theme Insufficient reason to TR. But yes, I suppose AJ's particular brand of activity is towny, pointing out the relative scumminess of different opinions (would scum like this strat?) instead of just analyzing them for town-centric strategic merit. It's weak, though.
xnadrojx's stubbornness on this "who tells CV what to do" matter strikes me as town; he's behaving like a town whose pride was rubbed a bit by being called scummy for an opinion.
Actually? Gotta say I like VigVig's idea of CV shooting who she wants but still being so kind as to only choose from universal scum reads.People need to start talking god damn it. If one of me, aj, FTF or Citrus dies, the scum is someone who wants the game to stagnate okay i got a wild ass idea but I'm too lazy to think of pros and cons. Y'all wanna hypo roleblocks?
Also just putting this out there, now would NOT be a good time for CV to claim. I think she should claim tomorrow; it'll be 7±1 players then, and if one more mafia is dead by then, great, if not, then the claim is statistically stronger with fewer players in the game. No point giving mafia an extra day to think about what to do with her.Hooray, one down. I decided to skim through everyone's ISOs, and damn, FTF seems a lot more obvious now lol. Hindsight is 20/20 I suppose. Anyways, these users have posted nothing of use, so do any of you have any reads/FOSes? Crespo qtball For now, I am going to lynch cseel. The 2 I mentioned above hadn't posted anything since some time last day, and just haven't been online for a couple days. cseel's posts have only been setup related things so far, barring Day 1 RVS, and now she made a meme vote. I'd like to see something player related from you. alright so I think I personally need to compile my thoughts, so I’m just gonna make a read list. (it’s in order of the ISO list, if you’re wondering) cseel- She started doing things after I placed that lynch on her, so that’s good I guess. None of her posts really scream town to me, but they’re not scummy either. For some reason I get a gut scummy feeling from reading her posts earlier in the day… but like gut vs head, I’m gonna overall go with Neutral here. ***Was doing other reads and came back to this. I remember why I had the gut scum read- the lynch on VigVig just seemed… too easy to me. Along with most of cseel’s posts. She only really started making contributions when I said to. To me, the rest of her posts after haven’t been anything major, you know? Like, scum not wanting to make a big play to stick out this early on. Not to mention- she hopped on the Pash turbo bandwagon early in the day, and even this most recent lynch was when Pash already had another lynch on him. Gonna fix my read to (Slight?) Lean ScumDurza- Has done next to nothing. Probably should get a sub @fenriraesir. (He has been online but hasn’t been posting) The impulsive part of me is tempted to lynch him if we can’t agree on something else, but like, a) it’s probably better to wait for a sub, and b) lynching someone else will probably give us better info at this stage in the game. (or NLing). No ReadChamp- most of Champ’s posts have given me a towny vibe, including the one towards the beginning of D2 when they questioned me. Lean TownTballz- I almost forgot Tballz was in this game until his most recent post. That one post gives me a towny feel- I don’t think they’d openly be hypocritical like that (I mean he did admit it, but still- it feels like he’s being genuine). Slight Lean TownVigVig- y’all are being weird about Pash. That beginning of day post didn’t seem like a claim… at least to me. And yes playermeta, but imo when Pash is scum he tries more. (speaking from psanon experience.) From an outside perspective, his posts are just neutral tbh, or maybe slightly scummy since he hasn’t been trying much, but I’m just gonna go with Neutral because I’m not feeling the scumminess from him. Scorrch- Here we go. So like, that early day post about NLing- I agree with Citrus, I cannot see a scum saying that (unless they really value finding their partner I guess). And the CV claim… I can’t see scum being that obvious and taking that risk. Like, I know what happened with FTF, but there’s no way scum does something this obvious… Like, he said "what the h*ck why have i not received a sekret message back…”. Like if he just left it at the secret message for later game, then sure, but I find it very hard to believe that this is the long con. The only sketch thing really is his lynch on Pash since it’s the 3rd one… I’m still gonna say (Lean?) Town for now. That is the one post that makes me question my otherwise strong read, so lean? town works for me. Citrus- If you thought Scorrch’s claim was the only one, revealing it would be bad. But the fact that you thought Vig’s was an actual claim makes that alright imo… although thinking that is a claim is farfetched. In most cases at least- you’re Citrus, and you look into those things more than most people. So in this specific case, I’d say that could be genuine. Honestly, looking through I’m finding it hard to get a solid read on you. I don’t really even have a gut read like I do with most people. Every time I think about it it flip flops in my head. So Neutral for the time being. Xnad- smh Champ didn’t include you on the list of ISOs (which don’t even work for the whole thread, rip). Slight Lean Scum from last day since you’ve done nothing this day to change my read. I’d like to hear your thoughts on all this to help me make a more concrete read. And that’s about it! I was gonna unlynch cseel before making reads because she did what I asked, but I realize I should keep it to keep plur |
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Post by ajhockeystar on Dec 29, 2017 0:31:52 GMT
oh oops I just realized I had my personal votecount at the top of the page lol, ignore that xD I started making this post before Fen posted the VC
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