Forum Official (Chosen Mafia): Day 3

[Dasocks~]

Also, I’m willing to bet Ayia is chosen from OM’s interactions with them mostly d1.

Almost nothing would indicate OM + Champ, so I still think Spiderz is the ideal lynch.

[ayia]

Did you not read my wall? Literally we win if we lynch Champ
either they're VT or they're scum or Spiderz is scum
if they're VT or scum we win

It's by far the best lynch here

[ayia]

If you can do anything to refute the ideas in my post, only then will I consider lynching Spiderz. Otherwise you're either scum playing weirdly or flat out gamethrowing

[Dasocks~]

tbh i didn’t even see your post. I’ll give a look-see

[Dasocks~]

‘If Champ flips VT: we win woot’

I’m just putting this here because fuck mobile quoting systems

Anyway, I don’t think this is true because Mafia can just NL. Right? Is that how it works?

But if it isn’t how that works, then by all means, I’ll lynch Champ. Really though, it makes no difference; both getting lynched means town win, so idrc. But if anything, I’d go for the scummier of the two, being Spiderz (imo), since I highly doubt either are chosen.

And doesn’t your logic for lynching Champ also apply to Spiderz anyway? Idk, I may be dumb. But I’d like Spiderz to also speak... like at all. Makes you wonder how he hasn’t been subbed out by now. :thonk:

Meta aside, irdc who of the two get lynched, really

[ayia]

Jul 20, 2018 1:11:19 GMT Dasocks~ said:

‘If Champ flips VT: we win woot’

I’m just putting this here because fuck mobile quoting systems

Anyway, I don’t think this is true because Mafia can just NL. Right? Is that how it works?

But if it isn’t how that works, then by all means, I’ll lynch Champ. Really though, it makes no difference; both getting lynched means town win, so idrc. But if anything, I’d go for the scummier of the two, being Spiderz (imo), since I highly doubt either are chosen.

And doesn’t your logic for lynching Champ also apply to Spiderz anyway? Idk, I may be dumb. But I’d like Spiderz to also speak... like at all. Makes you wonder how he hasn’t been subbed out by now. :thonk:

Meta aside, irdc who of the two get lynched, really

oops yeah you're totally right. i still think champ is most likely scum due to reasons i mentioned in that post. but ill do a master post of FAIs for everyone to see if a Spiderz lynch is worth it

[ayia]

I just made a list of things and just figured out that
Dasocks is like 90% clear
Mecha is 90% clear
I'm 90% clear

The implications of any of us being scum are insane, to put it simply. The least clear out of us is dasocks and dasocks can be scum if spiderz is chosen but why did om shift to mecha not spiderz and I'm hoping this wasn't some big distancing ploy but for now I'm just gonna go

Unlynch Champ, Lynch Spiderz

It doesn't matter who we lynch first, really

[Dasocks~]

er i meant scum can idle. but you understood anyway so w/e

[ayia]

Jul 20, 2018 3:25:59 GMT Dasocks~ said:

er i meant scum can idle. but you understood anyway so w/e

i know

[ayia]

okay so if spiderz flips chosen

if I die and flip chosen dasocks could still be scum. this is the only scenario that i can see in which dasocks could be scum

[spiderz]

Oh shit sorry so sorry I hadn’t have had a lot of time on my hands

[spiderz]

Ok Ayia your reads make sense but the only thing is I think if champ flips as VT Mecha might have bussed, I say this because I think both of them went for town cred instead of trying to go for the chosen townie. The most probable reason is because the chosen townie is extremely townie and it would seem scummy for them to lynch someone townie when them thereselves aren’t very town yet for example Ayia who he tred same goes for om

Regardless champ is more likely scum I just thought i should put that out there

I understand the read on me I should’ve been here but I’ll be here for now and commit.

What do you guys think ?

[spiderz]

Lynch Champ[\b]

[ayia]

Here's the thing. If Champ being VT is the only case in which Mecha is scum, we win anyway. That would mean me and Dasocks are chosen. We lynch Champ tomorrow, gg.

[spiderz]

But there’s also a chance champ is CT aswell at this point I would say Ayia is most likely CT and honestly I’m thinking unlynch Champ, Lynch Mecha is more likely at this point if Mecha flips champ is almost certainly scum but I think MechaMew2 is scum it makes sense

[MechaMew2]

I'm a little short on time, so this is going to be a quick post.

Aiya is town. I already mentioned the townslip, plus og villain was trying to push him Day 1.

Spiderz is probably town. Look at the interactions with og villain, specifically where he tries to feed Spiderz reasoning to lynch me. Some of the things he's saying are on a whole different wavelength than the game, and I'll address this later.

This leaves Daisocks and Champ1604.

If my memory is correct, og villain was defending Daisocks Day 1, but Day 2 Daisocks doesn't shift plurality off scum. Champ1604 tried to create a counterwagon from scum Day 2. I'm really not sure which of the two here is scum yet. I plan to re-read Day 1 when I have the time and possibly look at vote patterns (probably sometime tomorrow).

I'd like to have some more discussion and a different lynch so please don't hammer.

[ayia]

Jul 18, 2018 0:04:45 GMT OM~! said:

Jul 17, 2018 13:20:06 GMT Champ1604 said:

the next thing i'm going to say isn't just concerning this post, but honestly their emotional reaction to them being lynched

om what do you think of the current pressure on you? in specific, ayia's lack of reasons and given how mm2's on om?
i'll follow this with my reads on you, given i get an answer for this

ayia I want something out of because right now he's basically a puff of smoke

mm2 is coming and going right through with the stupidest cherry-picking I've ever seen, but my post concerning his lynch on me mainly wraps up my thoughts on it.

I will say I find myself more open to a mm2 lynch than a spiderz lynch due to spiderz's lack of activity so maybe we could get a sub there or smth

lynch mm2

like FUCK I'm letting myself be lynched over no activity

Here's where I think that Mecha is town. Under the notion that Mecha is scum and OM was going for some sort of bus, he would be leaving himself alone with a lot of people that scumread him a lot. This ultimately would lead to a scum loss. Therefore a bus here is very unlikely (especially since the only other person who scumread Mecha was Champ). It may be possible that this lynch was a last-ditch distancing effort. Gonna read more on this idea and see interactions between OM and Mecha.

Note the bolded phrase: OM could've easily launched a Spiderz lynch here but chose not to. This could've been to a) not lynch a scumpartner or b) launch a lynch on a chosen townie. Either way, Mecha is hard town.



Concerning Dasocks, the ONLY possible way I could ever see them being scum is if Spiderz flips chosen townie. I need to read more on Dasocks to confirm this idea but honestly he's probably as clear as me at this point. He's likely VT due to the amount of lynches that were on him, aka none, but could possibly be chosen if Spiderz is mafia. Any which way, a Spiderz lynch is something I could go for.

[ayia]

Jul 20, 2018 18:20:33 GMT spiderz said:

But there’s also a chance champ is CT aswell at this point I would say Ayia is most likely CT and honestly I’m thinking unlynch Champ, Lynch Mecha is more likely at this point if Mecha flips champ is almost certainly scum but I think MechaMew2 is scum it makes sense

S T O P and READ MY WALL POSTS
Mecha is like CONF TOWN

Jul 20, 2018 19:28:49 GMT MechaMew2 said:

I'm a little short on time, so this is going to be a quick post.

Aiya is town. I already mentioned the townslip, plus og villain was trying to push him Day 1.

Spiderz is probably town. Look at the interactions with og villain, specifically where he tries to feed Spiderz reasoning to lynch me. Some of the things he's saying are on a whole different wavelength than the game, and I'll address this later.

This leaves Daisocks and Champ1604.

If my memory is correct, og villain was defending Daisocks Day 1, but Day 2 Daisocks doesn't shift plurality off scum. Champ1604 tried to create a counterwagon from scum Day 2. I'm really not sure which of the two here is scum yet. I plan to re-read Day 1 when I have the time and possibly look at vote patterns (probably sometime tomorrow).

I'd like to have some more discussion and a different lynch so please don't hammer.

S T O P and READ MY WALL POSTS
Dasocks is like CONF TOWN

[ayia]

Jul 20, 2018 18:20:33 GMT spiderz said:

But there’s also a chance champ is CT aswell at this point I would say Ayia is most likely CT and honestly I’m thinking unlynch Champ, Lynch Mecha is more likely at this point if Mecha flips champ is almost certainly scum but I think MechaMew2 is scum it makes sense

Addressing this point directly.

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READ MY FUCKING WALL POSTS

LITERALLY MOST OF MY POST WAS ABOUT THE SCENARIOS OF WHAT CHAMP COULD POSSIBLY BE

I hope you realize that if Champ flips CT that you're scum so even bringing up that scenario is dumb
Furthermore, have you not seen the OM / Mecha interactions? Mecha is pretty much conf CT at this point.

Honestly now it's so obvious that Spiderz is scum. He's deflecting attention to Mecha and Champ so hard and it's like driving me insane
he's not even directly addressing the lynches on him, he's just trying to create faulty logic to combat my hard logic
actually dying

I would say hammer this now but honestly I'd prefer to see more from Champ and Mecha under the small chance that either of them are scum (mostly champ)
as I've stated prior literally the only chance of dasocks being scum is if Spiderz flips chosen. 

[spiderz]

The number 1 reason I’m getting lynched is because I wasn’t here and didn’t contribute I’m trying to help town here with my reads I’m not trying to get lynched and leave town in a situation where they are left with mecha (if champ flips town) and me or mecha and champ and become an easy win for mecha that’s why I want them out of the way first also bussing would give om a lot of town cred so your point doesn’t make a lot of sense their and also om wasn’t the only one who said that about me mecha himself said the same thing

[ayia]

Jul 20, 2018 22:34:14 GMT spiderz said:

The number 1 reason I’m getting lynched is because I wasn’t here and didn’t contribute I’m trying to help town here with my reads I’m not trying to get lynched and leave town in a situation where they are left with mecha (if champ flips town) and me or mecha and champ and become an easy win for mecha that’s why I want them out of the way first also bussing would give om a lot of town cred so your point doesn’t make a lot of sense their and also om wasn’t the only one who said that about me mecha himself said the same thing

You're not getting lynched because you weren't here, you're getting lynched because of POE and what makes sense. It doesn't make sense for someone to bus in the way that the Mecha / OM thing did, especially in that situation. 

Who, in your opinion, is chosen townie?

[ayia]

Champ, whenever you get on, I want these things from you.

What do you think of OM's flip?
Who are your scumreads and townreads? Since this is endgame I don't want a single null.
Who do you think are the Chosen Townies?

[Dasocks~]

Jul 20, 2018 18:20:33 GMT spiderz said:

But there’s also a chance champ is CT aswell at this point I would say Ayia is most likely CT and honestly I’m thinking unlynch Champ, Lynch Mecha is more likely at this point if Mecha flips champ is almost certainly scum but I think MechaMew2 is scum it makes sense

*cough*
Technically speaking, there’s a chance anyone could be CT. What’s your point, exactly?
First of, your main target switched fast there. Very interesting. Or maybe in that time you thought of a better course of action that would win you the game?
Secondly, could you elaborate on how Champ is conf scum if MM2 flips town and vice versa?
Thirdly, could you again elaborate on how MM2 being scum makes sense?

To be honest, this all seems like some sort of desperate scum attempt at victory, in which MM2 is a VT and Champ is a CT, hence the flip-flop. All the more reason to lynch Spiderz and get their flip, tbh

[spiderz]

Jul 20, 2018 22:53:41 GMT ayia said:

Jul 20, 2018 22:34:14 GMT spiderz said:

The number 1 reason I’m getting lynched is because I wasn’t here and didn’t contribute I’m trying to help town here with my reads I’m not trying to get lynched and leave town in a situation where they are left with mecha (if champ flips town) and me or mecha and champ and become an easy win for mecha that’s why I want them out of the way first also bussing would give om a lot of town cred so your point doesn’t make a lot of sense their and also om wasn’t the only one who said that about me mecha himself said the same thing

You're not getting lynched because you weren't here, you're getting lynched because of POE and what makes sense. It doesn't make sense for someone to bus in the way that the Mecha / OM thing did, especially in that situation. 

Who, in your opinion, is chosen townie?

Ayia and Dasocks

[spiderz]

Jul 20, 2018 23:41:10 GMT spiderz said:

Jul 20, 2018 22:53:41 GMT ayia said:

You're not getting lynched because you weren't here, you're getting lynched because of POE and what makes sense. It doesn't make sense for someone to bus in the way that the Mecha / OM thing did, especially in that situation. 

Who, in your opinion, is chosen townie?

Ayia and Dasocks

Less of dasocks though but he prob is it