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Post by ForgotToFlush on Dec 1, 2018 19:33:48 GMT
ANY TIME someone busts out fucking probability it means they're lost
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Dec 1, 2018 19:34:37 GMT
Like, at least give some sort of reasoning for all these reads? Why am I most scummy? Why is tbz most towny? Back your points up My read on you is based on: 1) Alex's posts 2) General scumminess 3) My gutreads 4) Low efforts 5) I love to tunnel so a whole lotta nothing COOL
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Dec 1, 2018 19:38:19 GMT
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Dec 1, 2018 19:38:38 GMT
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Dec 1, 2018 19:41:01 GMT
lets go bois first forum game lynch partingwindalright everyone, did you hear that? tbz is not getting lynched today. guess we both gotta live a little longer Alex, i love what you've done with your nails btw. very rustic, it suits you darling thank you babe <3 TR on fenrir for contributing after subbing in with the reads / looking through old messages, dont know what tbz means to do but sl on him. p much null on every1 else. lynch tbzimagine giving reads as if they matter Love it when Kaif and Alex both ask me if they can use PMs for a NOC lowkey spamming to increase my post count trying to hit 1k don’t mind me never did this bud but k I asked that "question of the hour" bit with the hope of getting responses from people; so it'd be cool if y'all read some of Chosen (Thunder died n1 so it's not that much reading) and let me know what you think. ForgotToFlush and Bomb Moss y'all at least were in that game. Thunder actually made a number of comments with which I mindmeld over the past couple of pages -I'm also interested in FtF's read on me; I see he put me at the top of his town list but I actually want to hear more about the reasoning behind it. -The bit about Alex mirrors my own thoughts on it; Alexander489 you kind of just entered the thread, said I'm town, and sheeped my scumread on Thunder as my only other read. You're null on some of the other more active players (off the top of my head Toni and FtF)? - qtball What's your town->scum list look like right now/where does Jordan rank in that? Unvote: ThunderBallzAlexander489The sheep on my Thunder vote feels like a pocket attempt as opposed to a catch-up for the reasons mentioned above. Next order of business (if I have time right now) is actually to go over FtF's posts since I had some idea earlier of trying to determine who a viable partner would be for him if he's scum. did you even read my post lmao, wasnt a sheep was lynching my sl Kaif's play is too inconsistent to be called town Alex is just underwhelming
underwhelming my ass sr tbz, sl ftf, tr toni for todays interactions / reactions. tl fenrir you kinda need to explain all of this none of it is coherent
Sr = scumread, sl= scumlean, tr= townread, tl = townlean and i thought i was new. unlynch tbz lynch xnadthis is mainly due to the fact that he was here all of day 1 then seemingly dissapeared as if to draw attention off of himself, switching my read on tbz to null based on his reactions. Alex scum reads me based on reactions, I make 1 post about me being paired with flush, he randomly backs off based on I guess just this 1 reaction? Thinking that now that Fenrir is off me Alex needs to lynch xnad to ensure he survives today unlynch lynch Alex Not in my house lmao ok bud, you think thats all the reason i switched you to null, you seemed scum up until the point where you were giving me townie reactions. sigh
He means you need to explain your reads i think theyre pretty clear themselves thats not what I’m saying. You made a post saying you scum read me, and then you switched your read to me being null after I had made 1 more post, that post not really actually having any relevant content go back and read how many it was again sir Okay so tbz probs clear since he's the one that made alex slip up and alexander switching to tbz's scumread probs clears cantius/xbad
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Dec 1, 2018 19:45:15 GMT
so lynching fen or toni means game is auto and we still have doctor
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Dec 1, 2018 19:49:33 GMT
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Dec 1, 2018 19:52:12 GMT
vote Fenrir
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Post by qtball on Dec 1, 2018 20:10:45 GMT
while your assumption is probably true (I’m town leaning you for this I’ll explain that later rn my mind is fucked froma 10 hour shift) id prefer to lynch Toni before Fenrir unlynch
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Post by Fenrir on Dec 2, 2018 0:18:30 GMT
That might have actually been the worst possible night kill scum could make wtf I had a post I made during the night in which I said “I’m 90% sure a Kaif Lynch ends the game.” I’ll post it still for the other stuff but ??
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Post by Fenrir on Dec 2, 2018 0:21:58 GMT
Thunder and Jordan are both town imo. qtball I don't see how you came to the conclusion of Xnad as the most likely partner; isn't it more likely that if Alex rapidly went from null to a scumlean/voted Alex over their established scumlean FtF that FtF is the most likely partner? I don't see a reason for Alex to bus there so suddenly. I don't place that much stock in the post you quoted for a town!FtF case. FtF's (uncounted b/c twilight) Alex vote doesn't look especially good imo; the progression is super weird. Bottom of page 6 Alex is null in FtF's readlist; the next time FtF brings up Alex on page 8 he's still "just underwhelming" and FtF is most set on a Kaif lynch (which he's been focusing pretty hard for most of the day). One updated readlist from Alex later we get this post from FtF regarding it and an EoD switch to the Alex wagon over the Kaif push. I think it's more likely that FtF was worried about there being no extension and wanted to get on the Alex wagon in spirit; town!FtF imo doesn't switch his read on Alex that hard after a single post. Kaif's minimal interactions with Alex also make him a potential partner, this post is a weirdly defensive response to my asking a question and actually when I look through Kaif's ISO he had me as town with scum!Toni and scum!FtF and this post is a 180 on the townread with nothing else regarding me preceding or following it and that's actually even more off than FtF imo. Hence based on interactions we get: Thunder, Jordan, Toni, ForgotToFlush, Kaif. Toni's correct in that my initial townread on them was based on that early post of theirs, though not a ton stands out to me as town outside of that so the read's faded some. I don't really have an idea of where his mindset/reads are at based on his posts and that makes me nervous.
I'm like 90% sure a Kaif lynch ends the game.
now excuse me while I catch up and re-evaluate my life
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Post by Fenrir on Dec 2, 2018 0:26:17 GMT
Cantius I want analysis on your Toni read. Don't get how I'm on Cantius/FtF's scumlist considering it makes no sense for me as scum to step out of a perfectly good Thunder tunnel to bus my partner who sheeped it. I'm still down to call Cantius and Thunder town.
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Post by Fenrir on Dec 2, 2018 0:27:08 GMT
My 3 thought processes right now are 1) Cantius subbed in didn’t read up and rand killed 2) Flush killed the person tunneling him knowing we’d likely go for Jordan today and then bank on winning Lylo 3) anybody can be scum and is either trying to throw us off or is trying to doctor hunt (and honestly this last part is what makes sense to me) Going to add (4) anybody can be scum and went for the person with the lowest chance of being protected imo.
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Post by Cantius on Dec 2, 2018 1:03:44 GMT
hEYlo. I come in peace and have found scum vote JordanNot much I can say about this. 2. Everyone wants to play with me lol Filler #1 This might be considered towny by others, but isn't this what scum would do (Town would keep this thought to himself)? *cue smartass lynching me as a result* grr Filler #2 unlynch; lynch Thunderballzfor now ig? FOR NOW? Really, you need to do more than this. This also offers no explanation whatsoever. cba to explain reads, pmeta says tbz town. and uh ftf is scum because he is. You've been asked to elaborate. Please do Toni looks like he is trying to contribute. what the fuck why is that text so big Filler #3 no response to being scumread lynch Xnad Why do you insist on Jordan being mafia? Is there anything that makes you think this or what? Asking people about reads is a fantastic way to play scum and gain towncred while not giving much effort. OH MY GOD PROBOARDS STOP BEING GLITCHY Filler #4 well then why are you on Jordan Same theme. You've been asked to elaborate. Please do Kaif If he's not responding, it's likely he never will. Same theme. I mean tbz if you're saying there's lack of evidence on u literally there's lack of evidence on Jordan idgi Subjective refutation... wtf why do y'all post so quickly Filler #5 never said there was lack of evidence on me, I’m saying it makes 0 sense, but thanks for putting words in my mout for me Missread my bad. I'm not putting any words in your stinky mouth so don't accuse me of doing so Admitting a change of reads. You're trying to attack flawed reasoning itself while not actually explaining how it's flawed. you don't like him saying your posts are ok ?? A goal of every player, town or scum, is to gain as much towncred as possible while not harming his faction too much. I shall now use Comic Sans to get town cred then whee Filler #6 nvm that font is too much effort Filler #7 was frenzy the oc flush carried me in Just look at the thread and you will see... I did my part by confusing C7 Doesn't really matter. Nice advice. Doesn't really help. Toni is probably lurker town but could just as easily be lurker scum My dude in what world am I lurking Active Lurking, I should say. qtball I think people tr me for realising day 1 was maj which is pretty bad reasoning unless there's some playermeta on me I'm not aware of You accept that you're not so towny after all. Sr = scumread, sl= scumlean, tr= townread, tl = townlean and i thought i was new. sigh
He means you need to explain your reads Same point as up; appearance of contribution while actually not. dElETInG iS STIlL Against tHE RuLEs OK we have one mislynch. Some probability: 1/5 chance that we lynch the Mafia Goon today, resulting in victory 1/5 chance we lynch the Doctor (It can't be PS Mafia without this!), resulting in LYLO with no clears 3/5 chance we lynch an innocent little Vanilla Townie Then 1/3 chance that Mafia kills the doctor We have a 2/5 chance of Oops didn't finish that: OK we have one mislynch. Some probability: 1/5 chance that we lynch the Mafia Goon today, resulting in victory 1/5 chance we lynch the Doctor (It can't be PS Mafia without this!), resulting in LYLO with no clears 3/5 chance we lynch an innocent little Vanilla Townie We have a 1/5 chance of winning today. We have a 50-50 chance of LYLO with clears/without clears. While having these facts is nice, it doesn't add anything onto the game Well it helps us consider probability. Players from towniest to scummiest: TBZ Fenrir FTF Toni Like, at least give some sort of reasoning for all these reads? Why am I most scummy? Why is tbz most towny? Back your points up This wall. ThunderBALLZ is making many contributions and generally helping the town. Additionally, he's usually lazier than this as scum. My read on you is based on: 1) Alex's posts 2) General scumminess 3) My gutreads 4) Low efforts 5) I love to tunnel 1) Give. Me. Some. Logs. 2) Give. Me. Some. Logs. 3) Gut reads based on...? Literally I want some quotes or some shit because idgi I have some quotes. and what does my effort have to do with how you read tbz? every log I've posted has been low effort and scummy? Actually, yes. In conclusion, I see a low-effort and fillering player who has not made many significant contributions to the town. His posts that appear to be contributions are in fact easy for any player, town or scum, to make.
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Dec 2, 2018 1:20:18 GMT
hEYlo. I come in peace and have found scum vote JordanNot much I can say about this. Filler #1 This might be considered towny by others, but isn't this what scum would do (Town would keep this thought to himself)? Filler #2 unlynch; lynch Thunderballzfor now ig? FOR NOW? Really, you need to do more than this. This also offers no explanation whatsoever. You've been asked to elaborate. Please do Toni looks like he is trying to contribute. what the fuck why is that text so big Filler #3 Why do you insist on Jordan being mafia? Is there anything that makes you think this or what? Asking people about reads is a fantastic way to play scum and gain towncred while not giving much effort. OH MY GOD PROBOARDS STOP BEING GLITCHY Filler #4 well then why are you on Jordan Same theme. If he's not responding, it's likely he never will. Same theme. I mean tbz if you're saying there's lack of evidence on u literally there's lack of evidence on Jordan idgi Subjective refutation... wtf why do y'all post so quickly Filler #5 Missread my bad. I'm not putting any words in your stinky mouth so don't accuse me of doing so Admitting a change of reads. You're trying to attack flawed reasoning itself while not actually explaining how it's flawed. you don't like him saying your posts are ok ?? A goal of every player, town or scum, is to gain as much towncred as possible while not harming his faction too much. I shall now use Comic Sans to get town cred then whee Filler #6 nvm that font is too much effort Filler #7 was frenzy the oc flush carried me in Just look at the thread and you will see... I did my part by confusing C7 Doesn't really matter. Nice advice. Doesn't really help. My dude in what world am I lurking Active Lurking, I should say. qtball I think people tr me for realising day 1 was maj which is pretty bad reasoning unless there's some playermeta on me I'm not aware of You accept that you're not so towny after all. sigh
He means you need to explain your reads Same point as up; appearance of contribution while actually not. dElETInG iS STIlL Against tHE RuLEs While having these facts is nice, it doesn't add anything onto the game Well it helps us consider probability. Like, at least give some sort of reasoning for all these reads? Why am I most scummy? Why is tbz most towny? Back your points up This wall. ThunderBALLZ is making many contributions and generally helping the town. Additionally, he's usually lazier than this as scum. 1) Give. Me. Some. Logs. 2) Give. Me. Some. Logs. 3) Gut reads based on...? Literally I want some quotes or some shit because idgi I have some quotes. and what does my effort have to do with how you read tbz? every log I've posted has been low effort and scummy? Actually, yes. In conclusion, I see a low-effort and fillering player who has not made many significant contributions to the town. His posts that appear to be contributions are in fact easy for any player, town or scum, to make. alright my child allow me to introduce you to a novel concept known as The Demands of the Situation Does the situation demand for in depth analysis of the game? No Should you read the slot using blanket terms for things you don't like? Of course not
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Dec 2, 2018 1:21:12 GMT
Not much I can say about this. Filler #1 This might be considered towny by others, but isn't this what scum would do (Town would keep this thought to himself)? Filler #2 FOR NOW? Really, you need to do more than this. This also offers no explanation whatsoever. Toni looks like he is trying to contribute. Filler #3 Asking people about reads is a fantastic way to play scum and gain towncred while not giving much effort. Filler #4 Same theme. If he's not responding, it's likely he never will. Same theme. Subjective refutation... Filler #5 Admitting a change of reads. You're trying to attack flawed reasoning itself while not actually explaining how it's flawed. A goal of every player, town or scum, is to gain as much towncred as possible while not harming his faction too much. Filler #6 Filler #7 Just look at the thread and you will see... Doesn't really matter. Nice advice. Doesn't really help. Active Lurking, I should say. You accept that you're not so towny after all. Same point as up; appearance of contribution while actually not. Well it helps us consider probability. This wall. ThunderBALLZ is making many contributions and generally helping the town. Additionally, he's usually lazier than this as scum. I have some quotes. Actually, yes.
In conclusion, I see a low-effort and fillering player who has not made many significant contributions to the town. His posts that appear to be contributions are in fact easy for any player, town or scum, to make. alright my child allow me to introduce you to a novel concept known as The Demands of the Situation Does the situation demand for in depth analysis of the game? No Should you read the slot using blanket terms for things you don't like? Of course not
calling something bad doesn't make it AI it makes you lazy read posts in context instead of trying to get them to fit your narrative
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Dec 2, 2018 1:21:46 GMT
That might have actually been the worst possible night kill scum could make wtf I had a post I made during the night in which I said “I’m 90% sure a Kaif Lynch ends the game.” I’ll post it still for the other stuff but ????? Fenrir is this the wifom play of the century
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Dec 2, 2018 1:24:17 GMT
Thunder and Jordan are both town imo. qtball I don't see how you came to the conclusion of Xnad as the most likely partner; isn't it more likely that if Alex rapidly went from null to a scumlean/voted Alex over their established scumlean FtF that FtF is the most likely partner? I don't see a reason for Alex to bus there so suddenly. I don't place that much stock in the post you quoted for a town!FtF case. FtF's (uncounted b/c twilight) Alex vote doesn't look especially good imo; the progression is super weird. Bottom of page 6 Alex is null in FtF's readlist; the next time FtF brings up Alex on page 8 he's still "just underwhelming" and FtF is most set on a Kaif lynch (which he's been focusing pretty hard for most of the day). One updated readlist from Alex later we get this post from FtF regarding it and an EoD switch to the Alex wagon over the Kaif push. I think it's more likely that FtF was worried about there being no extension and wanted to get on the Alex wagon in spirit; town!FtF imo doesn't switch his read on Alex that hard after a single post. Kaif's minimal interactions with Alex also make him a potential partner, this post is a weirdly defensive response to my asking a question and actually when I look through Kaif's ISO he had me as town with scum!Toni and scum!FtF and this post is a 180 on the townread with nothing else regarding me preceding or following it and that's actually even more off than FtF imo. Hence based on interactions we get: Thunder, Jordan, Toni, ForgotToFlush, Kaif. Toni's correct in that my initial townread on them was based on that early post of theirs, though not a ton stands out to me as town outside of that so the read's faded some. I don't really have an idea of where his mindset/reads are at based on his posts and that makes me nervous.
I'm like 90% sure a Kaif lynch ends the game.
now excuse me while I catch up and re-evaluate my life lets talk about the switch because you saw the same thing I saw Alex pretty much outed and suddenly decided to start voting for his scumread's scumread you don't need a "progression" to see that also saying I've been "focusing pretty hard on the Kaif switch" is a reach
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Dec 2, 2018 1:50:14 GMT
Thunder and Jordan are both town imo. qtball I don't see how you came to the conclusion of Xnad as the most likely partner; isn't it more likely that if Alex rapidly went from null to a scumlean/voted Alex over their established scumlean FtF that FtF is the most likely partner? I don't see a reason for Alex to bus there so suddenly. I don't place that much stock in the post you quoted for a town!FtF case. FtF's (uncounted b/c twilight) Alex vote doesn't look especially good imo; the progression is super weird. Bottom of page 6 Alex is null in FtF's readlist; the next time FtF brings up Alex on page 8 he's still "just underwhelming" and FtF is most set on a Kaif lynch (which he's been focusing pretty hard for most of the day). One updated readlist from Alex later we get this post from FtF regarding it and an EoD switch to the Alex wagon over the Kaif push. I think it's more likely that FtF was worried about there being no extension and wanted to get on the Alex wagon in spirit; town!FtF imo doesn't switch his read on Alex that hard after a single post. Kaif's minimal interactions with Alex also make him a potential partner, this post is a weirdly defensive response to my asking a question and actually when I look through Kaif's ISO he had me as town with scum!Toni and scum!FtF and this post is a 180 on the townread with nothing else regarding me preceding or following it and that's actually even more off than FtF imo. Hence based on interactions we get: Thunder, Jordan, Toni, ForgotToFlush, Kaif. Toni's correct in that my initial townread on them was based on that early post of theirs, though not a ton stands out to me as town outside of that so the read's faded some. I don't really have an idea of where his mindset/reads are at based on his posts and that makes me nervous.
I'm like 90% sure a Kaif lynch ends the game.
now excuse me while I catch up and re-evaluate my life lets talk about the switch because you saw the same thing I saw Alex pretty much outed and suddenly decided to start voting for his scumread's scumread you don't need a "progression" to see that also saying I've been "focusing pretty hard on the Kaif switch" is a reach
lynch* not switch
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Post by qtball on Dec 2, 2018 2:07:32 GMT
Toni > Flush should win the game, assuming neither as doc
lynch Toni
Thing I agree with Fenrir saying about the progression is the random flush twilight lynch (there was 0 need to add the lynch there plur was secured)
Canto is stupidly town rn feelsbad that I lacked the ability to read xnad especially after the alex shift
Imo this game should be won already
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Post by Crespo on Dec 2, 2018 10:31:36 GMT
See the thing is Cantius, pulling quotes out of context isn't going to help us. Half of those are me asking questions yet without context you're painting me out for "lurking" which I clearly am not. I'm VT.
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Post by chapterseven on Dec 2, 2018 14:50:56 GMT
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Post by qtball on Dec 2, 2018 15:31:59 GMT
Fenrir if FTF is mafia, why arent you lynching him
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Post by Cantius on Dec 3, 2018 1:24:48 GMT
Crespo anything to say before being lynched?
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Dec 3, 2018 3:38:35 GMT
Crespo anything to say before being lynched? you gon ignore everything I just told you >_>
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