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Post by gimm1ck on May 23, 2019 22:25:42 GMT
Will post later on
Vote, or Lynch, No Lynch.
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Post by cyan on May 24, 2019 2:21:37 GMT
I guess abstaining is our best option here, but I'd like to hear from Gimm1ck and C7 a bit about their thoughts on both the Brady lynch and the Schia kill.
Won't NL at the moment, since I don't want scum to quickhammer and for us to go into LyLo in blindness.
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Post by gimm1ck on May 24, 2019 3:07:49 GMT
Anyway, we need to steer our discussions in the direction of scumhunting. So, a prompt, I guess? Schiavetto was killed; I can say that he was active in the game, but he wasn't exactly very prominent. Any ideas as to why he was killed? Even if this line of discussion does incriminate me somewhat (let me point out that he was one of the first to lynch me), I'd like to see things through. I'm open for other ideas as well This bleeds newbie town. Scum SFL would not openly acknowledge this because, as he said, it would looks scummy. My own, long, thoughtful analysis leads me to believe Schia was an obvious fearkill. This tells me that scum are either unconfident with their own abilities in forming a formidable push on Schia later on in the game if need be, or that they outright just didn't want Schia to be Schia #justiceforSchia #fearkilled.
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Post by gimm1ck on May 24, 2019 3:08:46 GMT
Zol also reeks town.
From general townie analysis of pretty much literally anything they said, to backing up their logic on Brady's wagon and sticking to it. Zol is town.
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Post by gimm1ck on May 24, 2019 3:09:54 GMT
C7 is relatively null as they haven't spoken much, although I do question their hesitance to post pretty much at all about the game once the deadline was near.
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Post by gimm1ck on May 24, 2019 3:11:02 GMT
If I had to say scum was out of Sir Mister/FTF. I have a gut reading for FTF I'm going to tackle while sober tomorrow morning waiting for the forums circuit to begin #hype
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Post by cyan on May 24, 2019 3:21:32 GMT
If I had to say scum was out of Sir Mister/FTF. I have a gut reading for FTF I'm going to tackle while sober tomorrow morning waiting for the forums circuit to begin #hype In that case, why Sir Mister?
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Post by ZestOfLife on May 24, 2019 4:12:53 GMT
ZOL why do you think he is P much town Welp this proves that you have zero analysis on the game and is just posting for the sake of posting. If you really had even a little bit of analysis or a thought or something you wouldn't have just doged my question by asking a question of your own and then leave.
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Post by ZestOfLife on May 24, 2019 4:26:45 GMT
I'd say probably because of his defeatist playstyle and basically the 'gave up hope' attitude he had after several attempts to explain himself? I mean, both town and scum can do that, but the frustration he showed was pretty genuine. We lost a journalist in one night and gained no useful information from it. The only thing we can work off of is if Mafia Journalist gets lynched, and even then we can only put faith in their first reveal. Aside from the first night, it's basically a guarantee that either the Mafia Framer will frame their partner for every night in which they both survive, or the Mafia Journalist will choose to reveal the Mafia Framer on one night and will be revealing framed townies for the rest. If I'm correct with my memory here, Framers can only make town look like scum. If we kill the Mafia Journalist today or later, any townflip is a guaranteed clear. I'm sure this townslip is legit. Anyways SFL's posts seem geniune and is tonally town. Their reason to lynch Brady was pretty moderate.
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Post by ZestOfLife on May 24, 2019 4:28:54 GMT
Sir Mister's post look townie imo but I'm still getting flashbacks on how he possibly tried to line up a mislynch on me/sfl eod day 1. I also get this vibe that he possibly already knew Brady was town.
This could just be me paranoid tho.
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Post by cyan on May 24, 2019 7:50:55 GMT
Glad to know I'm now the universal townread, but at the same time I'm probably about to die before LyLo hits. I'm not sure whether to call that a blessing because I won't be there to choke the game, or a curse because I'd be unable to play. Looking at things, C7 is definitely worthy of a bit of suspicion. ZOL's pointed out the fact that instead of answering and contributing like he did at the end of D1, he's now just doing stuff like ZOL why do you think he is P much town? not answering any questions or providing information. Now that he has an answer to the question, I'd really like to hear what C7 thinks about this game overall, especially the events in which our two missing men met their demise. Slight FOS on C7, but no definitive scumreads or townreads at the moment. As far as I can see, ZOL's pushes on Brady weren't very substantial (although they did for the most part hold water), but he did get Schia's approval for the pushes. Gut tells me he's town. Meanwhile Gimm1ck has started to post more (although sadly in the one-line separated posts fashion that Brady started off with, but I will give credit to the fact that they have content). Not much I can infer from that, but we'll see as things go on. FtF and Sir Mister are behaving sort of 'behind the scenes'. They're far from not helping, but they aren't taking center stage either. From the two, Sir Mister is giving out more arguments, but FtF has only recently subbed in and did make a good start as a substitute player by analyzing the entire PL. Nullreads on both.
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Post by ZestOfLife on May 24, 2019 12:53:21 GMT
gimm1ck What do you make off Sir Mister's analysis of Night 1 kill?
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Post by ForgotToFlush on May 25, 2019 1:51:28 GMT
and we're back
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Post by ForgotToFlush on May 25, 2019 2:20:37 GMT
so going off previous thoughts I'm looking at
Cnumbers Gimmick ZoL
High confidence in at least 1 maf here
2 would be wishful thinking since idt Gimmick and ZoL are together and C7 doesn't have enough scum equity on his own to warrant being the lock slot to build worlds around
and it'd also be founded on the belief that I'm right about both Sir Mister and SFL
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Post by ForgotToFlush on May 25, 2019 2:22:07 GMT
so going off previous thoughts I'm looking at
Cnumbers Gimmick ZoL
High confidence in at least 1 maf here
2 would be wishful thinking since idt Gimmick and ZoL are together and C7 doesn't have enough scum equity on his own to warrant being the lock slot to build worlds around
and it'd also be founded on the belief that I'm right about both Sir Mister and SFL but if I'm wrong about at least one then it means Sir Mister and SFL are both mafia and there isn't a chance in hell I'm that bad at this game
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Post by ForgotToFlush on May 25, 2019 2:24:15 GMT
ZOL why do you think he is P much town Welp this proves that you have zero analysis on the game and is just posting for the sake of posting. If you really had even a little bit of analysis or a thought or something you wouldn't have just doged my question by asking a question of your own and then leave. yeah these gotcha type posts aren't going to do the job two days in a row sure c7's content is basically substance-less, self conscious and defensive, but at the end of the day it feels like you're going for the easy jump again your brady push basically started over small change too
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Post by ForgotToFlush on May 25, 2019 2:27:37 GMT
I'd say probably because of his defeatist playstyle and basically the 'gave up hope' attitude he had after several attempts to explain himself? I mean, both town and scum can do that, but the frustration he showed was pretty genuine. We lost a journalist in one night and gained no useful information from it. The only thing we can work off of is if Mafia Journalist gets lynched, and even then we can only put faith in their first reveal. Aside from the first night, it's basically a guarantee that either the Mafia Framer will frame their partner for every night in which they both survive, or the Mafia Journalist will choose to reveal the Mafia Framer on one night and will be revealing framed townies for the rest. If I'm correct with my memory here, Framers can only make town look like scum. If we kill the Mafia Journalist today or later, any townflip is a guaranteed clear. I'm sure this townslip is legit. Anyways SFL's posts seem geniune and is tonally town. Their reason to lynch Brady was pretty moderate. I would think so too but
if you cross examine his mech talk it's all pretty useless we lose after two more townflips and im not sure mafia pr hunting is the kinda thing town thinks of when they're trying to win a game in mylo
of far greater importance however retrospective PR reads the goon is more likely to protect the framer than the reverse scenario and that's the situation where I'd see town wanting knowledge on who the framer is
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Post by ForgotToFlush on May 25, 2019 2:28:39 GMT
also be warned he was this useless in the classic game too it was pretty simple to find him as town then though this time im not too sure
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Post by ForgotToFlush on May 25, 2019 2:30:46 GMT
Slight FOS on C7, but no definitive scumreads or townreads at the moment. As far as I can see, ZOL's pushes on Brady weren't very substantial (although they did for the most part hold water), but he did get Schia's approval for the pushes. Gut tells me he's town. this gives me pause so we'll do an exercise in thought Give me one townread & one scumread don't regurgitate what you've said in this post because you discounted that yourself
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Post by ForgotToFlush on May 25, 2019 2:32:09 GMT
Slight FOS on C7, but no definitive scumreads or townreads at the moment. As far as I can see, ZOL's pushes on Brady weren't very substantial (although they did for the most part hold water), but he did get Schia's approval for the pushes. Gut tells me he's town. this gives me pause so we'll do an exercise in thought Give me one townread & one scumread don't regurgitate what you've said in this post because you discounted that yourself ultimately, it's up to you to recognize and remind yourself of the fact that alignment is truly binary you could flip a coin and pick a side that way but a large section of this game, part and parcel is making inferences to skew the odds in your favour hedging your reads in a mylo situation isn't going to help anyone
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Post by C7 on May 25, 2019 3:22:38 GMT
Wow that was a utter slog to read through
It's late at night and my only thoughts was that Brady was an atrocious town (No offence)
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Post by ZestOfLife on May 25, 2019 3:25:48 GMT
Wow that was a utter slog to read through It's late at night and my only thoughts was that Brady was an atrocious town (No offence) Do you have a scumreand & townread?
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Post by C7 on May 25, 2019 3:31:37 GMT
ZOL why do you think he is P much town Welp this proves that you have zero analysis on the game and is just posting for the sake of posting. If you really had even a little bit of analysis or a thought or something you wouldn't have just doged my question by asking a question of your own and then leave. You point out my dodging of a question by dodging a question. Instead of answering this question with why you think he is town you try to bash me for asking it. My reads will be better formed tomorrow, but I would like if you answered the question I asked first.
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Post by C7 on May 25, 2019 3:32:44 GMT
My opinions on the Schia kill are out there but honestly, I'm kinda glad Brady is dead with the kind of activity I was reading (Again, no offense)
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Post by ZestOfLife on May 25, 2019 3:35:37 GMT
Welp this proves that you have zero analysis on the game and is just posting for the sake of posting. If you really had even a little bit of analysis or a thought or something you wouldn't have just doged my question by asking a question of your own and then leave. You point out my dodging of a question by dodging a question. Instead of answering this question with why you think he is town you try to bash me for asking it. My reads will be better formed tomorrow, but I would like if you answered the question I asked first. Read the post below you.
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