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Post by Mylo13 on Jun 14, 2019 6:03:01 GMT
This Ignited kill is messing with my head tbh  I knew he was town but there was serious backlash against him, there's no solid reason why he should've been killed. Unless scum are planning to frame me (Which if so, good luck haha) or are just shooting possible mislynches I'm not sure what solid reason there is for it. UNIRONICALLY I KNOW THE KILL MAKES SENSE i just need it to click give me a few hours  Okay, go ahead dude! |
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Post by Mylo13 on Jun 14, 2019 6:08:23 GMT
My main gripe with Edward is that his posts have generally consisted of filler or vague / confusing statements that have little to no relevance to the current discussion at hand. However, reading through his ISO in full, I think I'm generally townleaning this slot. In particular: Ye. And for some reason ignited is afk:/ This type of frustration is certainly a towntell imo. As scum, it's pretty easy to simply lay out your reads + reasoning and then stop pressuring your scumreads to avoid further scrutiny. Particularly in this case where the validity of edward's scumread had been long accepted, and a large majority of the town also found ignited scummy, there was little for him to gain by pushing the slot further. However, his annoyance over ignited being afk instead indicates a willingness to coax further information out of his read, and then re-evaluate it, demonstrating a balanced consideration of the game as a whole. @ignitedgid, plz answer me uwu, this might help clear a lot of things for us rn owo Once again, he makes multiple attempts to contact his scumread in order to pressure it and improve the overall quality of his reads, a town trait. K, also if u guys see this message and r available can we further discuss the game rn? Here he makes an effort to provoke further discussion among town, which helps to advance the gamestate and increase the likelihood of finding scum. Another thing that I'd point out is that I would consider Edward to be the easy, "cop-out" lynch today. He hasn't been defended by anyone essentially all game and scumreads on him have been widespread and uncontroversial. For that reason alone I think scum is gravitating towards him, and I would feel very uneasy about lynching him in MYLO especially. Thanks for this! Unfortunately, I don't really agree with these townreads that much . The posts you use are a line long and could easily be faked. Especially the "Ignited is AFK" bit, which doesn't ring to me as "town annoyed at someone gone" but more "I can make a townsplayer sound bad". He doesn't even sound that annoyed if I'm being honest, the :/ is more feeling meh or uncaring about it lol. Also the "Advancing gamestate" part is a fair reasoning but the post it's based off doesn't ring that towny for me either haha. Who's the scum that you think is gravitating towards him btw haha? |
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Post by Mylo13 on Jun 14, 2019 6:09:49 GMT
GTG for a bit again sorry, don't worry I'll get to this within 5~ hours haha
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Post by Wob on Jun 14, 2019 6:48:16 GMT
My main gripe with Edward is that his posts have generally consisted of filler or vague / confusing statements that have little to no relevance to the current discussion at hand. However, reading through his ISO in full, I think I'm generally townleaning this slot. In particular: This type of frustration is certainly a towntell imo. As scum, it's pretty easy to simply lay out your reads + reasoning and then stop pressuring your scumreads to avoid further scrutiny. Particularly in this case where the validity of edward's scumread had been long accepted, and a large majority of the town also found ignited scummy, there was little for him to gain by pushing the slot further. However, his annoyance over ignited being afk instead indicates a willingness to coax further information out of his read, and then re-evaluate it, demonstrating a balanced consideration of the game as a whole. Once again, he makes multiple attempts to contact his scumread in order to pressure it and improve the overall quality of his reads, a town trait. Here he makes an effort to provoke further discussion among town, which helps to advance the gamestate and increase the likelihood of finding scum. Another thing that I'd point out is that I would consider Edward to be the easy, "cop-out" lynch today. He hasn't been defended by anyone essentially all game and scumreads on him have been widespread and uncontroversial. For that reason alone I think scum is gravitating towards him, and I would feel very uneasy about lynching him in MYLO especially. Thanks for this! Unfortunately, I don't really agree with these townreads that much . The posts you use are a line long and could easily be faked. Especially the "Ignited is AFK" bit, which doesn't ring to me as "town annoyed at someone gone" but more "I can make a townsplayer sound bad". He doesn't even sound that annoyed if I'm being honest, the :/ is more feeling meh or uncaring about it lol. Also the "Advancing gamestate" part is a fair reasoning but the post it's based off doesn't ring that towny for me either haha. Who's the scum that you think is gravitating towards him btw haha? It's not so much that he was annoyed, moreso that there wasn't really any reason for him to "make a townsplayer sound bad" by pressuring ignited. The slot was already an almost universal scumread after some questionable plays day one and the shitposting in general, so no one would've batted an eye if he hadn't made these posts. You can argue that it was done for towncred, but I personally don't feel that the tone of those quotes lend themselves to being faked, especially given that a number of his other posts display an unfamiliarity with forum mafia in general. And to answer your question I believe I was specifically thinking about sadistic at the time? I mostly meant more generally though, that I could see scum going for the easy push on that slot today. |
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Post by Wob on Jun 14, 2019 6:56:17 GMT
Also just to make it clear where I stand I'm gonna go ahead and lynch złerdzib.
I don't feel that his response to me really addressed my concerns, he kinda just backtracked on the reads he made before by claiming he had barely read anything. Although that's fair, I can't help but feel that with that in mind there was no reason for him to post those reads, outside of gaining easy towncred and seeming active.
Could be persuaded onto sadistic instead though.
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Post by Mylo13 on Jun 14, 2019 7:05:06 GMT
My main scumread today is definitely zeep (zlerd?), I do feel like he's been struggling a lot to make any kind of meaningful reads, which is almost always a scumtell for an experienced player. its... zwerd. weirdchamp. just shorten it to jib if you cant read zwerd from far away (content below vvvvvvvvvv) i actually couldnt tell you anything about ed cause all of his posts have so much filler ive yet to read them. if i could get an iso of his posts i think i could read over it but i dont think im reading back over his posts as for sadistic i genuinely forgot he was in the game lol. its mylo so its not the time to lynch an inactive over an actual sr but sadistic has been falling behind noticeably in activity. as for whether i sr him, ill be honest, havent read very far back since the entirety of yesterday and half the day before that. again, an iso would help me with my read, but until i figure out how to acquire one, he has to be null wobs just null, i dont think i can really sr him but theres not enough pointing to him being town either you yourself, mylo, on the other hand, have been a very interesting character. probably'll elaborate on friday as thats when finals end but until then keep that thought in mind. TL;DR everything is null (for now) I have quite a few issues with this post. In particular, he calls out Ed for filler but a significant portion of his posts are the same thing, or at the very least have little usefulness to town at this stage. See for example, his recent discussion of the hypothetical situation in which someone counterclaims vig, despite the fact that this is both highly unlikely and only really serves to boost his perceived activity. I also refuse to believe that there's nothing that would make him lean either way on both me and sadistic. Null reads are acceptable if you've considered the reasons for them being both scum and town, but in this case all of these just seem like an excuse for not forming proper reads. roasted it back because i did something productive for the past hour real REAL post in 20 This is the other problem I have, the promised wall posts. I understand that real life stuff happens and it takes priority, but at this point you're actively misleading town by not delivering such content. It's been a constant theme throughout the game that you've used these promises to draw attention off yourself, only to hope that everyone forgets about them. I wouldn't be surprised if this happens with the mylo elaboration you were talking about either, because he's arguably the only one you wouldn't be able to just list a simple null read on and get away with. I do still have problems with Jib and you've mostly summarised them here They're lack of content despite being around is like a background noise that seems to never warrant being focused on. We'll have to see about this Mylo elaboroation indeed, but having no reads like at all seems very *don't wanna draw attention to msyelf so I'll do the bare minimum* Beside that though, I do kind of tonally road him as town? The actual words he's saying are not towny but it also is hard for me to fully imagine his as scum rn. I'll have to come back to that I guess |
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Post by Mylo13 on Jun 14, 2019 7:08:56 GMT
That leaves Mylo and Sadistic - I could realistically see either as partners with zeep. While Mylo has essentially been the universal townread throughout the entire game, I'm mindful that activity doesn't necessarily indicate a green role, which is the reason a lot of people seem to be giving. This Ignited kill is messing with my head tbh I knew he was town but there was serious backlash against him, there's no solid reason why he should've been killed. Unless scum are planning to frame me (Which if so, good luck haha) or are just shooting possible mislynches I'm not sure what solid reason there is for it. I do townread this post. Specifically, the confusion / insight into why scum made the kills they did seems like a geniune reaction, especially because he's been considering this thoroughly throughout the entire game. To Ed, Zwerb, Sadistic, Wob: If possible, please give a rundown of your thoughts on the other 3 of you. None of you have posted that much, so just check each others recent posts and look for anything that catches your eye or gives you a question etc. If you're town there's no need to worry here, so just be honest. However, the wording here does give me pause. Asking us to give thoughts on each other but not including himself ("the other 3 of you") makes me feel like his intention is not to assess the quality of our reads / posts, but instead to encourage the other non-clears to form scumreads on each other while he essentially avoids scrutiny. I'm aware that this might've not been what he meant, so I'll wait for a response. Right now I'd give this slot a slight townread. Sorry, for the latter quote I forgot to mention what I was thinking lol. Of course if y'all have any suspicion on me, please call it out! I'm not confirmed here, and I'll be up to answer any questions y'all have. I was instead wondering specifically those because I wanted to guage interaction as I mentioned was missing. Your opinions on me don't help that, and mostly it seemed like I was townread so I didn't want to bother you guys with saying that you did considering most of you 4 were struggling to consistently contribute to begin with haha. But yeah, didn't mean I was above scrutiny or confirmed, I was doing this mostly for my reading sake. BTW, thanks for doing those posts on the people so far, they've been handy! |
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Post by Mylo13 on Jun 14, 2019 7:15:33 GMT
That leaves Sadistic, who I slightly scumread overall. The quote below this is supposed to actually be above it but I'm my lack of forum skills are obvious, but ignited is literally just fucking around and I can't get behind an ignited lynch at all. Regardless of how useless he may seem he along with mylo are my two greatest town reads (for very different reasons lol). see above going off this couldn't literally half the PL or so (including you) be lynched using this logic. It's really random at that point and its more possible that it was something along the lines of what brady said like 1 kind of active scum or something and 1 completely inactive player. I can't really see this logic as justified. So really right now this is what I think: Mylo: Easily the most town for me; seems completely innocent despite lacking many developed thoughts really just goes along with everyone.Ignited: Bad trolling but I can't see them being scum at all. Ik some people think that's just an uber risky scum play (either loewism (probably spelled that wrong) or commander) and if that is the case I have an idea who is pr but I should probably keep that to myself.
Brady: you know initally I didn't like Brady but now I'm starting to think that he is town. Has a lot of input but I can't seem to understand why he's chasing down ignited so I'm still kind of neutral because he could be going for the "holy shit he was actually PR why did he play like that" or something
Commander: neutral but I think I actually townlean on this. Decent reaction to wob's lynch that I think made sense logically but still putting neutral because the sub can be used as a scapegoat wob: totally neutral on them for reasons said aboveEdward: some jotty responses and filler. Not taking many sides but I could say the same about myself up until this post. scumlean neutral read currentlyEveryone else I don't really have a good idea about. So at this point im contemplating lynching edward or maybe wob but I'll let day play out a little more (unless it ends today then f)While I appreciate this list of reads they posted yesterday, I can't help but feel that its main focus was to set him and his partner up for MYLO/LYLO. I don't really see any point in scum killing Ignited last night unless it was literally just designed to confirm sadistic's read and give him towncred, which then frames me / edward today. ehhhhh I feel like this might be a stretch. The interactions here are interesting (Although not in Scum!Sad's favour imo) but I did just see that it seems like he was insinuating who he thought was a PR. Didn't fully read that the first time, hmm. sadisticnarwhal Who did you think was PR there, and why? Anyway, I'm not sure if A) Scum!Sad would think that far ahead or B) Scum!Sad would've intentionally town read Ignited just to kill them. Both are possible I guess but from the level of attention they've given this game neither seem all too likely for me, not to mention that their flip on Brady in one post seemed pretty towny to me. And the Weird scum kills can really go to anyone here, not sure why you're pointing at Sad specifically for that haha? |
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Post by Mylo13 on Jun 14, 2019 7:21:20 GMT
problem with mylo is, imo, theyve lived. I dunno what scum is doing not killing them (ignited couldve been a legit pr shot ig), but if mylo really is scum, i cant do anything about it. If the towniest person in the game is playing really well as scum, Im almost ready to accept that theyre gonna live in lylo if the other four dont get townier. (or get lynched) Regardless of mylo Im pretty sure wob is scum. Actually I could easily see him as partners with almost anyone in the game, and prolly the only person i could see w/ mylo. at this point, Wob has decided to play the game solely in mylo, which is as unhelpful as it is sus. I also disagree with his reads, which, while certainly not a scumtell on its own, ca certainly be a side effect of being scum. Wob conveniently forgot about his read on me the moment I claimed vig and started reading others for thing i either was already doing, or that other people are doing (see his post on edward). He didnt choose have reasons to tr someone and matched edward up with those reasons, he decided that he wanted to tr edward for whatever reason, and then searched through his iso for convincing posts that look towny, and validated them when literally everyone in the game has done what hes done. (This is not attacking edward, just wob and his read. Tbh this needs its own post rather than the "here are my thoughts on everyone" post. Im starting to feel town about jib. I think i made this read yesterday, but its grown. This message kind of helps to seal the deal: UNIRONICALLY I KNOW THE KILL MAKES SENSE i just need it to click give me a few hours. But his behaviour as a whole does not make we want to suspect him. if I could get a few good reads with some nice logic from him, I'd be pretty pleased with the slot. edward really does throw me for a loop. He has really not posted much, which leaves me little else to go on but to imagine his scum team. And i cant. I really cant see anyone who he'd be partners with. Wob wouldnt be making this read on his scumpartner, too risky, jib is town, and mylo having long deliberate conversations with him about reads seems really odd as a scum partner. ig my guy down below could be, but ill have to wait until my lower request is fulfilled. Overall though, i do see a towny vibe from his posts as a whole (rather than cherry picking reasons on a couple posts, which again i will go into on my later post.) sadisticnarwhal its time to be active btw. I really cant give a read on him yet until he gets here Me living continues to be confusing (and I am intrigued to see post-game why scum did that) so I'm not too stressed with suspicion being thrown my way for that. I can also see Wob!Scum, I'm not set on it but given I still liked that Sad post and Zwerd/Ed have done things (Mostly non-content wise haha) that I've townread. Wob/Ed could be a possible pairing that I see through Wob's defense of them tbh. Your point on Wob is also very fair, I questioned their quote choices and I still don't really understand their townread I think we're on the same idea for Jib too, his behaviour/tone works for me (Although the words he's saying and lack thereof do not whatsoever lol). When you get to it, could you explain your towny vibe on Edward though? |
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Post by Mylo13 on Jun 14, 2019 7:27:08 GMT
Reading through Wob/CA talks rn, don't have much to add to most of them. "I think I was the person to complain the most, and yet you still lynched me"When I lynched you, I hadn't read your ISO. To be honest, I still haven't. As I mentioned in that very post, it was purely based on the nightkill. It wasn't even intended to be a final lynch, or to really achieve anything outside of sparking some discussion, but as I mentioned before I slept through deadline and didn't have time to shift. "Mylo has also done this a lot, and even if they are your 3rd most likely scum, youve been very careful not to tr him."I said that I have a TR (or at least lean) on Mylo. It was specifically Edward's insistence on pressuring ignited that made me feel his slot was town over everyone else alive. Mylo's pushes for activity have basically been limited to "you need to speak up". "I thought you were the one that said activity =/= scum."I was mostly referring to the fact that those who post a lot / lead town are necessarily scum. I guess the main point I'm trying to make with Edward is that despite a number of his posts being cryptic or perceived as filler by others (likely due to being new to forum mafia), his ISO reveals a genuine interest in forming reads and advancing the game, which makes me feel that he's at least attempting to be pro-town. "you called edward the cop out lynch (which I think is fair) but then decided to lynch the lurky, undefended and scumread much of yesterday jib?"I haven't actually lynched. But for what it's worth I wouldn't consider him a universal scumread, at least not nearly to the extent that Edward is. I'm sorry but I still feel like I'm missing what was such a genuine interest from "Ignited is still AFK :/" and similar posts. I understand you might not townread my pushes for activity per se but Ignited didn't even pressure Ignited that much IIRC, and when he wasn't adding much himself anyway I don't think it's worth a TR. Also, I don't think I agree Edward is a universal scumread either, but that could just be my POV lol. |
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Post by Mylo13 on Jun 14, 2019 7:29:04 GMT
My main scumread today is definitely zeep (zlerd?) zwerd I do feel like he's been struggling a lot to make any kind of meaningful reads, which is almost always a scumtell for an experienced (weird backhanded compliment thank you i think?) player. I have quite a few issues with this post. In particular, he calls out Ed for filler but a significant portion of his posts are the same thing, or at the very least have little usefulness to town at this stage. (pot calling the kettle black or whatever, one of the bases (basises?) of your sr shouldnt be hypocrisy) See for example, his recent discussion of the hypothetical situation in which someone counterclaims vig, despite the fact that this is both highly unlikely and only really serves to boost his perceived activity. (its unlikely, but its still possible that sadistic hops in out of nowhere and says "vig btw". hindsight is 20/20 of course and ive thought about it now and i think that sadist would be the lynch should that be the outcome, though) I also refuse to believe that there's nothing that would make him lean either way on both me and sadistic. (there really isnt. most particularly with yourself, you do have reads, theyre just weird and contain weirder, out of context evidence. sadistic gets a pass on the basis that i literally have only read 2 of his posts, which segways into something else you wrote...) Null reads are acceptable if you've considered the reasons for them being both scum and town, but in this case all of these just seem like an excuse for not forming proper reads. (im going to level with everyone, their pops, and their grandpops here; i have not read anything pre day 3. since day 3 ive read (skimmed lol) every post and taken things into consideration from the past 2 days, but most especially because ive been effectively dead for so long is why ive been longing to read isos. i actually havent been able to get around to that yet, though, so bear with me. and to emphasize this point, i actually have considered what youve posted since youve subbed in and i think some of your read on me is decently justifiable. if this contradicts a later statement, i just got too lazy to edit mid post, so i apologize)This is the other problem I have, the promised wall posts. (i did actually do the wall, and to reiterate, hindsight is 20/20: i was half joking the 2nd time around (shitty excuse! is all you hear but whatever you do you) because i knew i wouldnt be able to finish it that night.) I understand that real life stuff happens and it takes priority, but at this point you're actively misleading town by not delivering such content. (this actually made me wince a bit, that alone is a pretty shitty reason to sr me. i shouldve mentioned that in my previous reply but yeah) It's been a constant theme throughout the game that you've used these promises to draw attention off yourself, only to hope that everyone forgets about them. I wouldn't be surprised if this happens with the mylo elaboration you were talking about either, because he's arguably the only one you wouldn't be able to just list a simple null read on and get away with. (this is a really hostile tone for a wall that is half justified reads half pepewhat. anyway, im doing that mylo thing, because you are partially correct- he is the one person in the playerlist i actually have a solid read on right now.)This post is a little jumbled but it does very much lower Zwerd/Wob pairing for me. This doesn't read as fake to me, and I don't think them being partners fits this attack from both sides here. |
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Post by Mylo13 on Jun 14, 2019 7:32:57 GMT
problem with mylo is, imo, theyve lived. and as for the "give me a few hours" thing... this is it. this is literally the one piece of seemingly irrelevant info that may well swing the game for us. this is whats been so off about the previous 2 nightkills. of course, without context, evidence is irrelevant, and without discussion, it has no voice, so i cant fully explain what i mean by this piece of info until tomorrow. I was kinda concerned when you said "This is it" that this was literally all you were going to post haha. Excited to see what you bring tomorrow, especially if it is, as you seem to be insinuating here, a SR on me. oh yeah no wobs right, but i did write this to compensate for no wall cant type up a post for a few days, but for now, ill have to say socks kill was def vig (and itd be pointless to argue otherwise, just read back a few pages), but on the slight off chance we either have a... bodyguard? was it? (@mylo double check for me pls ty) stay silent, son. if youre a (the) vig, now would be a very fine time to claim Thanks for um this at least haha. wobs right on me not delivering the wall. argh. these posts are so disorganized. It's okay dude, any content is better than nothing. I'd suggest not trying to bring walls or big posts and instead just saying whatever you want to when you think of it. The spontaneityis hard to fake as scum, it's what got me to townread Brady through all of his similarly disorganised posts. Keep going dude! |
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Post by Mylo13 on Jun 14, 2019 7:35:23 GMT
Fenrir pl would be nice, but unnecessary. what is necessary is having all our players here in mylo and I don't think sadasticnarwhal is. since game is unplayable, can we pause until a sub is gotten? Totally agree, we need everyone here and if Sad isn't here quickly we're going to be at a disadvantage because of that. |
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Post by Mylo13 on Jun 14, 2019 7:48:05 GMT
Thanks for this! Unfortunately, I don't really agree with these townreads that much . The posts you use are a line long and could easily be faked. Especially the "Ignited is AFK" bit, which doesn't ring to me as "town annoyed at someone gone" but more "I can make a townsplayer sound bad". He doesn't even sound that annoyed if I'm being honest, the :/ is more feeling meh or uncaring about it lol. Also the "Advancing gamestate" part is a fair reasoning but the post it's based off doesn't ring that towny for me either haha. Who's the scum that you think is gravitating towards him btw haha? It's not so much that he was annoyed, moreso that there wasn't really any reason for him to "make a townsplayer sound bad" by pressuring ignited. The slot was already an almost universal scumread after some questionable plays day one and the shitposting in general, so no one would've batted an eye if he hadn't made these posts. You can argue that it was done for towncred, but I personally don't feel that the tone of those quotes lend themselves to being faked, especially given that a number of his other posts display an unfamiliarity with forum mafia in general. And to answer your question I believe I was specifically thinking about sadistic at the time? I mostly meant more generally though, that I could see scum going for the easy push on that slot today. I mean, there could've been reasons for him to make a townsplayer look bad lol. Maybe again it's just from my POV, but I didn't think Ignited was that scumread, any more than Brady or Zwerd were, especially given I townread them and didn't understand the tunnels on them. Edward could've, and possibly did, push the scumreads on Ignited into the biggest wagon that eventually got lynched. Actually now that I think about it, maybe scum *had* to kill ignited because the mods made them after getting the lynch wrong yesterday? That could explain the weird kill last night I guess, but that seems immoral so idk? Anyway yeah, I think this is one of those reads we aren't going to be agreeing on haha. I also understand (and have heard before) the argument about an 'easy' lynch but I feel like that in itself could be a cop-out lol. Like, going for any one of {Jib, Sad, Ed} could be a cop-out really anyway, so I don't know why you are specifically thinking based on Edward here. I also agree with CA's point calling out you also going for Jib, an 'easy' slot while going for Ed but he already made most of the points there lol. |
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Post by Mylo13 on Jun 14, 2019 7:49:38 GMT
Also just to make it clear where I stand I'm gonna go ahead and lynch złerdzib. I don't feel that his response to me really addressed my concerns, he kinda just backtracked on the reads he made before by claiming he had barely read anything. Although that's fair, I can't help but feel that with that in mind there was no reason for him to post those reads, outside of gaining easy towncred and seeming active. Could be persuaded onto sadistic instead though. I definitely need more from both Jib and Sad, but I do mostly agree with your points on him. |
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Post by Wob on Jun 14, 2019 8:56:24 GMT
It's not so much that he was annoyed, moreso that there wasn't really any reason for him to "make a townsplayer sound bad" by pressuring ignited. The slot was already an almost universal scumread after some questionable plays day one and the shitposting in general, so no one would've batted an eye if he hadn't made these posts. You can argue that it was done for towncred, but I personally don't feel that the tone of those quotes lend themselves to being faked, especially given that a number of his other posts display an unfamiliarity with forum mafia in general. And to answer your question I believe I was specifically thinking about sadistic at the time? I mostly meant more generally though, that I could see scum going for the easy push on that slot today. I mean, there could've been reasons for him to make a townsplayer look bad lol. Maybe again it's just from my POV, but I didn't think Ignited was that scumread, any more than Brady or Zwerd were, especially given I townread them and didn't understand the tunnels on them. Edward could've, and possibly did, push the scumreads on Ignited into the biggest wagon that eventually got lynched. Actually now that I think about it, maybe scum *had* to kill ignited because the mods made them after getting the lynch wrong yesterday? That could explain the weird kill last night I guess, but that seems immoral so idk? Anyway yeah, I think this is one of those reads we aren't going to be agreeing on haha. I also understand (and have heard before) the argument about an 'easy' lynch but I feel like that in itself could be a cop-out lol. Like, going for any one of {Jib, Sad, Ed} could be a cop-out really anyway, so I don't know why you are specifically thinking based on Edward here. I also agree with CA's point calling out you also going for Jib, an 'easy' slot while going for Ed but he already made most of the points there lol. I doubt ignited was a forced kill - that kinda thing would be announced to town if it was and it'd be a super odd way to resolve it anyway. Jib is certainly not an 'easy' slot, at least not nearly to the extent that Ed is. Multiple people mentioned scumreads on Edward towards the end of yesterday iirc, including Brady, which arguably makes him the natural lynch for today. His incoherent posts is also an easy point to push, even though it doesn't necessarily indicate he's scum. Although Jib and Sadistic have also been scumread a little, they haven't been pressured previously anywhere near as much as Edward has. |
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Post by Mylo13 on Jun 14, 2019 11:06:31 GMT
I mean, there could've been reasons for him to make a townsplayer look bad lol. Maybe again it's just from my POV, but I didn't think Ignited was that scumread, any more than Brady or Zwerd were, especially given I townread them and didn't understand the tunnels on them. Edward could've, and possibly did, push the scumreads on Ignited into the biggest wagon that eventually got lynched. Actually now that I think about it, maybe scum *had* to kill ignited because the mods made them after getting the lynch wrong yesterday? That could explain the weird kill last night I guess, but that seems immoral so idk? Anyway yeah, I think this is one of those reads we aren't going to be agreeing on haha. I also understand (and have heard before) the argument about an 'easy' lynch but I feel like that in itself could be a cop-out lol. Like, going for any one of {Jib, Sad, Ed} could be a cop-out really anyway, so I don't know why you are specifically thinking based on Edward here. I also agree with CA's point calling out you also going for Jib, an 'easy' slot while going for Ed but he already made most of the points there lol. I doubt ignited was a forced kill - that kinda thing would be announced to town if it was and it'd be a super odd way to resolve it anyway. Jib is certainly not an 'easy' slot, at least not nearly to the extent that Ed is. Multiple people mentioned scumreads on Edward towards the end of yesterday iirc, including Brady, which arguably makes him the natural lynch for today. His incoherent posts is also an easy point to push, even though it doesn't necessarily indicate he's scum. Although Jib and Sadistic have also been scumread a little, they haven't been pressured previously anywhere near as much as Edward has. Fair, that was just a random thought I was thinking of. I guess that is a reasonable point, but I personally didn't have Edward near my suspicions until today, whereas Jib was my main lynch for yesterday haha. So I guess I could've just been less observant of this Edward scum train lol. |
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Post by edwardzealchemist on Jun 14, 2019 12:21:26 GMT
Finally my turn.
Imma gonna summarise everything j have read and am going to produce my read upon that.
Mylo. tbh I am surprised that scum choose ignited>mylo. Ngl from the way mylo being playing all game, either the scum is blind af to not see what kind of danger it may be to them or mylo has been shielded or is the scum. Tr mylo was something i did as well till day 3(please correct me if today is day 3 uwu) but now at this point I can't stop wondering this.
Sadistic: afk as always. Sigh
Commander: my ol friend. Claiming vig was a bold move tbh, and I haven't seen any cross with it 2. Seems to me that this guy is actually a town pr. Reasons: no one has actually counter claimed yet, and not only that i could see lows death was done by commander by his previous day's lynch, but again i can't say more until.
I would deliver zwerb and woh after a bit of rereading.
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Post by edwardzealchemist on Jun 14, 2019 12:35:00 GMT
Finally my turn. Imma gonna summarise everything j have read and am going to produce my read upon that. Mylo. tbh I am surprised that scum choose ignited>mylo. Ngl from the way mylo being playing all game, either the scum is blind af to not see what kind of danger it may be to them or mylo has been shielded or is the scum. Tr mylo was something i did as well till day 3(please correct me if today is day 3 uwu) but now at this point I can't stop wondering this. Sadistic: afk as always. Sigh Commander: my ol friend. Claiming vig was a bold move tbh, and I haven't seen any cross with it 2. Seems to me that this guy is actually a town pr. Reasons: no one has actually counter claimed yet, and not only that i could see lows death was done by commander by his previous day's lynch, but again i can't say more until. I would deliver zwerb and woh after a bit of rereading. Also on the point that jib made for sadistic to claim vig. I disagree with it. Sadistic as a vig seems really improbable and him shooting low>me seems even more bizarre. |
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Post by edwardzealchemist on Jun 14, 2019 12:49:00 GMT
I also wanted to put in his as well. I remember Brady telling me that I was his 'gut guess'. Now I don't recall any previous accusation on me being scum before that specific post. I might be wrong but I need your guys opinion on this.
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Post by edwardzealchemist on Jun 14, 2019 13:47:08 GMT
Sorry for my delayed post, lights went out.
Now the thing is I can't really comment on jib and wob. Ngl wob has made a significant stance towards jib and I don't see any point in repeating what he has already told. But again i don't really agree upon jib being scum overall. But the thing I am annoyed about is u guys comparing me with jib. Fillers ok I agree i did them. But tbh not all my posts 8were useless.
Wob making most of his activity today, I can't really make out anything else that he tl me(uwu) and based his opinion over that. So I can't actually comment on either.
Basing my sr on either mylo may sound weak, but I think I under all that fluff their may lie the scum. But atm I think I won't lynch anyone yet. In time, hopefully I find something which may actually help us proceed the game further.
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Post by tenzhii on Jun 14, 2019 19:35:12 GMT
I would deliver zwerb and woh after a bit of rereading. no hostility, but you realize its been basically universally agreed on that this is the least likely scum combo right |
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Post by Mylo13 on Jun 14, 2019 23:44:04 GMT
Finally my turn. Imma gonna summarise everything j have read and am going to produce my read upon that. Mylo. tbh I am surprised that scum choose ignited>mylo. Ngl from the way mylo being playing all game, either the scum is blind af to not see what kind of danger it may be to them or mylo has been shielded or is the scum. Tr mylo was something i did as well till day 3(please correct me if today is day 3 uwu) but now at this point I can't stop wondering this. Sadistic: afk as always. Sigh Commander: my ol friend. Claiming vig was a bold move tbh, and I haven't seen any cross with it 2. Seems to me that this guy is actually a town pr. Reasons: no one has actually counter claimed yet, and not only that i could see lows death was done by commander by his previous day's lynch, but again i can't say more until. I would deliver zwerb and woh after a bit of rereading. Thanks for this! I understand the "Mylo hasn't died even though he should've" paranoia, and unfortunately that probably won't go away because the next reasonable NK is CA, but I hope my play can otherwise show I'm town regardless. Most people seem surprised Ignited died last night, including me so you're not in the minority here haha. Commander is indeed very very likely town pr and confirmed unless sad is town PR who hasn't talked yet which I very much doubt. Finally my turn. Imma gonna summarise everything j have read and am going to produce my read upon that. Mylo. tbh I am surprised that scum choose ignited>mylo. Ngl from the way mylo being playing all game, either the scum is blind af to not see what kind of danger it may be to them or mylo has been shielded or is the scum. Tr mylo was something i did as well till day 3(please correct me if today is day 3 uwu) but now at this point I can't stop wondering this. Sadistic: afk as always. Sigh Commander: my ol friend. Claiming vig was a bold move tbh, and I haven't seen any cross with it 2. Seems to me that this guy is actually a town pr. Reasons: no one has actually counter claimed yet, and not only that i could see lows death was done by commander by his previous day's lynch, but again i can't say more until. I would deliver zwerb and woh after a bit of rereading. Also on the point that jib made for sadistic to claim vig. I disagree with it. Sadistic as a vig seems really improbable and him shooting low>me seems even more bizarre. Very true, Sad is a very unlikely vig so Commander is virtually confirmed. I also wanted to put in his as well. I remember Brady telling me that I was his 'gut guess'. Now I don't recall any previous accusation on me being scum before that specific post. I might be wrong but I need your guys opinion on this. Uhhhh I guess so? Mostly people, including me, lumped you in the "barely talking" team which you didn't really escape until EOD yesterday Sorry for my delayed post, lights went out. Now the thing is I can't really comment on jib and wob. Ngl wob has made a significant stance towards jib and I don't see any point in repeating what he has already told. But again i don't really agree upon jib being scum overall. But the thing I am annoyed about is u guys comparing me with jib. Fillers ok I agree i did them. But tbh not all my posts 8were useless. Wob making most of his activity today, I can't really make out anything else that he tl me(uwu) and based his opinion over that. So I can't actually comment on either. Basing my sr on either mylo may sound weak, but I think I under all that fluff their may lie the scum. But atm I think I won't lynch anyone yet. In time, hopefully I find something which may actually help us proceed the game further. So, you don't really agree with Scum!Jib. Could you explain why? Do you think Wob is more suspicious for pushing that? What do you think about Wob's defense of you? Thank you for responding but I feel like you still haven't said anything in this. Do you townread Scum!Jib given you don't agree with Scum!Jib? Also, could you explain what "Basing my sr on either mylo may sound weak" haha? I'm not sure if you're talking to me, using mylo as "Mislynch or lose" or saying you may scumread me here haha? |
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Post by Mylo13 on Jun 14, 2019 23:44:47 GMT
I would deliver zwerb and woh after a bit of rereading. no hostility, but you realize its been basically universally agreed on that this is the least likely scum combo right I don't believe that's what he meant, I think he meant he could deliver his reads on you two after rereading. Correct me if I'm wrong though Edward. |
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Post by Mylo13 on Jun 15, 2019 0:13:31 GMT
I just Dm-ed Fenrir on Discord asking for a pause/Deadline extension for Sad's absence. Hopefully he grants us one or the other, I don't want us to lose due to one person not showing up (Or any other way for that matter, but especially not this way haha).
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I knew he was town but there was serious backlash against him, there's no solid reason why he should've been killed. Unless scum are planning to frame me (Which if so, good luck haha) or are just shooting possible mislynches I'm not sure what solid reason there is for it.
Okay, go ahead dude!
