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Post by tenzhii on Jun 15, 2019 0:59:57 GMT
few things
a) for some really stupid reason my pc is REALLY slow on my network so i cant even use it... so... no wall posts, quotes or anything till further notice
b) if we have the option we should nl; we've yet to have enough info to decide an *obvious* lynch. and no, i am not policy lynching. if there is no nl, then ill have reads by tomorrow at the latest anyway so lets hope for the best.
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Post by tenzhii on Jun 15, 2019 1:03:03 GMT
for reference, i literally cant conduct a speedtest and it takes 10 seconds to reload a page, and 30 to open one
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Post by tenzhii on Jun 15, 2019 1:18:02 GMT
alright i think ive found an interesting way to resolve this.
lets say mylo did die yesterday; ignited is spared, but that detail is irrelevant. if mylo did die yesterday, think about what our srs would be today. ideally, the sr/srs you may have had should mylo have died would most likely be scum today.
if that leads to you sring me, so be it, but i want to hear ideas dammit and this is probably the best way right now we can get a clue toward who is scum, because right now its a game of a flip flop, null, lurker, semi conf and decent tr
anyway, tl;dr, scum didnt kill mylo because itd be easier to narrow them down knowing that they have a sense of who should die, so they picked a polarizing townie instead.
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Post by Mylo13 on Jun 15, 2019 1:41:26 GMT
few things a) for some really stupid reason my pc is REALLY slow on my network so i cant even use it... so... no wall posts, quotes or anything till further notice b) if we have the option we should nl; we've yet to have enough info to decide an *obvious* lynch. and no, i am not policy lynching. if there is no nl, then ill have reads by tomorrow at the latest anyway so lets hope for the best. I was toying with the idea of a NL, and while it wouldn't be the end of the world it basically just means we lose CA (Unless scum do their own weird thing and kill someone else. Imagine if they killed me now while there's a confirmed townie around LOL). If we don't get a time extension, I'd possibly be up for it but I'd want to see if CA is up for it. Also, an obvious lynch is virtually impossible at this point  With two scum still in, an obvious lynch is going to be very hard to find haha. |
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Post by Mylo13 on Jun 15, 2019 1:42:39 GMT
alright i think ive found an interesting way to resolve this. lets say mylo did die yesterday; ignited is spared, but that detail is irrelevant. if mylo did die yesterday, think about what our srs would be today. ideally, the sr/srs you may have had should mylo have died would most likely be scum today. if that leads to you sring me, so be it, but i want to hear ideas dammit and this is probably the best way right now we can get a clue toward who is scum, because right now its a game of a flip flop, null, lurker, semi conf and decent tr anyway, tl;dr, scum didnt kill mylo because itd be easier to narrow them down knowing that they have a sense of who should die, so they picked a polarizing townie instead. This is an interesting point haha, which is plausible I suppose? |
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Post by tenzhii on Jun 15, 2019 2:15:11 GMT
few things a) for some really stupid reason my pc is REALLY slow on my network so i cant even use it... so... no wall posts, quotes or anything till further notice b) if we have the option we should nl; we've yet to have enough info to decide an *obvious* lynch. and no, i am not policy lynching. if there is no nl, then ill have reads by tomorrow at the latest anyway so lets hope for the best. I was toying with the idea of a NL, and while it wouldn't be the end of the world it basically just means we lose CA (Unless scum do their own weird thing and kill someone else. Imagine if they killed me now while there's a confirmed townie around LOL). If we don't get a time extension, I'd possibly be up for it but I'd want to see if CA is up for it. Also, an obvious lynch is virtually impossible at this point With two scum still in, an obvious lynch is going to be very hard to find haha. yeah, commander would fall, but itd give us more time to discuss and think things over. |
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Post by Wob on Jun 15, 2019 2:43:47 GMT
I wouldn't mind NL, when's deadline?
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Post by commanderawesome on Jun 15, 2019 2:45:50 GMT
nl is objectively bad with a clear
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Post by Wob on Jun 15, 2019 2:51:46 GMT
nl is objectively bad with a clear not with a deadline |
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Post by Mylo13 on Jun 15, 2019 3:16:23 GMT
NL is a last resort, we SHOULD get a deadline extension and a sub for Sadistic well before then. If we don't, I'll keep spamming Fenrir's PM's until we do lol.
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Post by tenzhii on Jun 15, 2019 3:56:16 GMT
NL is a last resort, we SHOULD get a deadline extension and a sub for Sadistic well before then. If we don't, I'll keep spamming Fenrir's PM's until we do lol. fair enough, keep it in mind though |
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Post by Mylo13 on Jun 15, 2019 4:02:35 GMT
NL is a last resort, we SHOULD get a deadline extension and a sub for Sadistic well before then. If we don't, I'll keep spamming Fenrir's PM's until we do lol. fair enough, keep it in mind though I will  |
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Post by tenzhii on Jun 15, 2019 4:20:13 GMT
wait Mylo13 do you like posts that you want to find more easily or do you just like posts because if its the former thats pretty smart |
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Post by tenzhii on Jun 15, 2019 4:25:14 GMT
i know thats filler but i need to start that practice lol
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Post by sadisticnarwhal on Jun 15, 2019 4:27:16 GMT
My main gripe with Edward is that his posts have generally consisted of filler or vague / confusing statements that have little to no relevance to the current discussion at hand. However, reading through his ISO in full, I think I'm generally townleaning this slot. In particular: Ye. And for some reason ignited is afk:/ This type of frustration is certainly a towntell imo. As scum, it's pretty easy to simply lay out your reads + reasoning and then stop pressuring your scumreads to avoid further scrutiny. Particularly in this case where the validity of edward's scumread had been long accepted, and a large majority of the town also found ignited scummy, there was little for him to gain by pushing the slot further. However, his annoyance over ignited being afk instead indicates a willingness to coax further information out of his read, and then re-evaluate it, demonstrating a balanced consideration of the game as a whole. @ignitedgid, plz answer me uwu, this might help clear a lot of things for us rn owo Once again, he makes multiple attempts to contact his scumread in order to pressure it and improve the overall quality of his reads, a town trait. K, also if u guys see this message and r available can we further discuss the game rn? Here he makes an effort to provoke further discussion among town, which helps to advance the gamestate and increase the likelihood of finding scum. Another thing that I'd point out is that I would consider Edward to be the easy, "cop-out" lynch today. He hasn't been defended by anyone essentially all game and scumreads on him have been widespread and uncontroversial. For that reason alone I think scum is gravitating towards him, and I would feel very uneasy about lynching him in MYLO especially. So by pressuring an inactive that’s seen as pressuring a read? If you are saying that he wasn’t afriad to lynch a townie with the fear that he would be attacked for doing so and that is townie I have to say that could literally just be used as a scapegoat. |
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Post by sadisticnarwhal on Jun 15, 2019 4:29:13 GMT
That leaves Sadistic, who I slightly scumread overall. The quote below this is supposed to actually be above it but I'm my lack of forum skills are obvious, but ignited is literally just fucking around and I can't get behind an ignited lynch at all. Regardless of how useless he may seem he along with mylo are my two greatest town reads (for very different reasons lol). see above going off this couldn't literally half the PL or so (including you) be lynched using this logic. It's really random at that point and its more possible that it was something along the lines of what brady said like 1 kind of active scum or something and 1 completely inactive player. I can't really see this logic as justified. So really right now this is what I think: Mylo: Easily the most town for me; seems completely innocent despite lacking many developed thoughts really just goes along with everyone.Ignited: Bad trolling but I can't see them being scum at all. Ik some people think that's just an uber risky scum play (either loewism (probably spelled that wrong) or commander) and if that is the case I have an idea who is pr but I should probably keep that to myself.
Brady: you know initally I didn't like Brady but now I'm starting to think that he is town. Has a lot of input but I can't seem to understand why he's chasing down ignited so I'm still kind of neutral because he could be going for the "holy shit he was actually PR why did he play like that" or something
Commander: neutral but I think I actually townlean on this. Decent reaction to wob's lynch that I think made sense logically but still putting neutral because the sub can be used as a scapegoat wob: totally neutral on them for reasons said aboveEdward: some jotty responses and filler. Not taking many sides but I could say the same about myself up until this post. scumlean neutral read currentlyEveryone else I don't really have a good idea about. So at this point im contemplating lynching edward or maybe wob but I'll let day play out a little more (unless it ends today then f)While I appreciate this list of reads they posted yesterday, I can't help but feel that its main focus was to set him and his partner up for MYLO/LYLO. I don't really see any point in scum killing Ignited last night unless it was literally just designed to confirm sadistic's read and give him towncred, which then frames me / edward today. Literally the only reasoning I could see scum killing yash and ignited would be to frame me and you are the only person really to point this out. Everyone see what I’m getting at here? |
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Post by tenzhii on Jun 15, 2019 4:32:12 GMT
Mylo13 sadisticnarwhal rises, fyi
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Post by sadisticnarwhal on Jun 15, 2019 4:35:46 GMT
Sorry for my delayed post, lights went out. Now the thing is I can't really comment on jib and wob. Ngl wob has made a significant stance towards jib and I don't see any point in repeating what he has already told. But again i don't really agree upon jib being scum overall. But the thing I am annoyed about is u guys comparing me with jib. Fillers ok I agree i did them. But tbh not all my posts 8were useless. Wob making most of his activity today, I can't really make out anything else that he tl me(uwu) and based his opinion over that. So I can't actually comment on either. Basing my sr on either mylo may sound weak, but I think I under all that fluff their may lie the scum. But atm I think I won't lynch anyone yet. In time, hopefully I find something which may actually help us proceed the game further. This is actually quite an interesting theory and to add to what I just said to win above, killing yash and ignited to frame me for towncred is stupid anyways and I don’t want to believe you [wob] were a part in that. We all ask our selves the same question “how is mylo alive” after all this time too so I think my hardtown read on him is slowly becoming lesser. This really throws my read on Ed off because making this post means he would be basically bussing Mylo if they were partners in a (what I see from reading) is MYLO. So if I think Ed is scum no way Mylo can be but the thought of Mylo surviving so long is really throwing me off. |
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Post by sadisticnarwhal on Jun 15, 2019 4:38:48 GMT
sorry again for being a bum I’m on a school trip and I haven’t thought of mafia unfortunately. I promise to be active tomorrow and if I’m not then banish me to the shadow realm. If there is anything I missed I might point it out later because I couldn’t re-read the posts I quoted on mobile while typing my response
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Post by tenzhii on Jun 15, 2019 4:41:44 GMT
Sorry for my delayed post, lights went out. Now the thing is I can't really comment on jib and wob. Ngl wob has made a significant stance towards jib and I don't see any point in repeating what he has already told. But again i don't really agree upon jib being scum overall. But the thing I am annoyed about is u guys comparing me with jib. Fillers ok I agree i did them. But tbh not all my posts 8were useless. Wob making most of his activity today, I can't really make out anything else that he tl me(uwu) and based his opinion over that. So I can't actually comment on either. Basing my sr on either mylo may sound weak, but I think I under all that fluff their may lie the scum. But atm I think I won't lynch anyone yet. In time, hopefully I find something which may actually help us proceed the game further. This is actually quite an interesting theory and to add to what I just said to win above, killing yash and ignited to frame me for towncred is stupid anyways and I don’t want to believe you [wob] were a part in that. We all ask our selves the same question “how is mylo alive” after all this time too so I think my hardtown read on him is slowly becoming lesser. This really throws my read on Ed off because making this post means he would be basically bussing Mylo if they were partners in a (what I see from reading) is MYLO. So if I think Ed is scum no way Mylo can be but the thought of Mylo surviving so long is really throwing me off.vvvvvv alright i think ive found an interesting way to resolve this. lets say mylo did die yesterday; ignited is spared, but that detail is irrelevant. if mylo did die yesterday, think about what our srs would be today. ideally, the sr/srs you may have had should mylo have died would most likely be scum today. if that leads to you sring me, so be it, but i want to hear ideas dammit and this is probably the best way right now we can get a clue toward who is scum, because right now its a game of a flip flop, null, lurker, semi conf and decent tr anyway, tl;dr, scum didnt kill mylo because itd be easier to narrow them down knowing that they have a sense of who should die, so they picked a polarizing townie instead.
to be fair, i can see mylo being scum, i just cant really see his partner. |
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Post by Wob on Jun 15, 2019 4:42:21 GMT
That leaves Sadistic, who I slightly scumread overall. While I appreciate this list of reads they posted yesterday, I can't help but feel that its main focus was to set him and his partner up for MYLO/LYLO. I don't really see any point in scum killing Ignited last night unless it was literally just designed to confirm sadistic's read and give him towncred, which then frames me / edward today. Literally the only reasoning I could see scum killing yash and ignited would be to frame me and you are the only person really to point this out. Everyone see what I’m getting at here? Huh? How does that frame you in the slightest? |
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Post by Wob on Jun 15, 2019 4:44:53 GMT
I thought most people had accepted that scum aren't killing the most universally townread or active players, for whatever reason. So I don't see how Mylo avoiding death makes him mafia.
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Post by tenzhii on Jun 15, 2019 4:53:42 GMT
I thought most people had accepted that scum aren't killing the most universally townread or active players, for whatever reason. So I don't see how Mylo avoiding death makes him mafia. far from a decisive statement; while i agree its possible that scum literally had one dude tape a dartboard to their wall and kill at random until the 2nd pr claimed, i also find it just as likely that there's a purpose for actively not killing mylo, stated a few posts above. its theoretical, to be fair, but i dont think that its because mylo is scum, or that its because scum is just lazy |
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Post by Wob on Jun 15, 2019 4:58:01 GMT
I thought most people had accepted that scum aren't killing the most universally townread or active players, for whatever reason. So I don't see how Mylo avoiding death makes him mafia. far from a decisive statement; while i agree its possible that scum literally had one dude tape a dartboard to their wall and kill at random until the 2nd pr claimed, i also find it just as likely that there's a purpose for actively not killing mylo, stated a few posts above. its theoretical, to be fair, but i dont think that its because mylo is scum, or that its because scum is just lazy Not sure what you're trying to say here, nowhere in my post did I suggest that scum was killing randomly. |
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Post by Mylo13 on Jun 15, 2019 5:31:37 GMT
wait Mylo13 do you like posts that you want to find more easily or do you just like posts because if its the former thats pretty smart Uhhhh I'm not smart enough for the former lol. I just like likes, and I love liking posts lol. |
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With two scum still in, an obvious lynch is going to be very hard to find haha.
