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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 5, 2019 9:22:55 GMT
Hey Fort, would be nice if you gave your thoughts on what I said Same to sircloud, I see that you're online right now and I've not seen much from you yet. Kinda annoying so it'd be nice if you commented on what I said to. Or well, anything else but I won't be able to discuss that just yet  |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 5, 2019 9:31:33 GMT
At this point I am very confident that snaq is town just because he was subbed so late and I feel like a mafia afk would be higher priority for subbing
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Post by sircloud on Jun 5, 2019 9:33:01 GMT
I’ve already explained my reads in previous pages, I haven’t been that active until like page 23
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 5, 2019 9:41:38 GMT
I’ve already explained my reads in previous pages, I haven’t been that active until like page 23 And what are your thoughts on what I said?  |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 5, 2019 9:57:11 GMT
Fenrir do we know which people are on the sub-out list and which people just plain refuse from talking? Would be great if we did  . anyway thank god i dont really have much responsibilities today so that i have time to catch up with this. ill just be gone tonight for Netherlands timezone, so my possible response frame cuts off around 5. First interesting post on page 11 seems to be the one where Fort accuses duskfall. I've given my thoughts on this towncore before, but I do see the point. Dusk could be a partner for Alex or TBZ if ayia is town as that'd be a very strong position to be in right now, but I don't find it as likely right now. ngl though, didn't really read too well into him before so im glad it was pointed out nuxl on this page you seem to townread everyone active besides fort (or at least above null). do you expect a lurker scumteam? same to duskfall for the post after, where he says fort is above null, too. port lists 3 points against the towncore, 1 i agree with, 2 and 3 i agree with nuxl's rebuttal of. 3 especially is something i despise as there's a lot of reads you can form off reactions and wagons people make. especially day 1. tbz asks fort whether nuxl hasn't been doing the same thing. good q because they've kinda similar reads. i do feel dusk started pushing the towncore more than nuxl, but in general i have more reason to TR nuxl based off his good start of day and really helping to get the game going, something i feel like scum would want to avoid. another conflict between nuxl and fort. I really feel like this is town v town as should be obvious from my posts rn. continually questioning each other's posts. but to me nothing that really points towards either being scum. i feel like both of them make good points about the other's questionable or confusing reasoning at times, honestly Oh, Ayia returned here. seems to have the same point of view as before and as most other players. It feels kinda lazy and I really don't like this slot right now. Page 13 gets interesting when Alex comes back, have been waiting to be able to get a better feel for him. he makes a few short statements, disagreed that he did few of substance and gives some reads. he started the day ok but i dont really like this. i also wonder why he SRd dayan who i dont think had said anything up to this point, but didn't SR any other lurkers. as of right now i'd really like alex to explain his reads instead of falling into the ps meta of "dont explain just sheep / wagon / etc." surprisingly very much agree with TBZs last post on this page. I SLd for the early ayia / alex interactions but i really like this analysis Still so many people who have not posted :/. I've asked this before, but I would honestly like to ask everyone how they are feeling about lurking scum, and how to approach this situation. end of page 13
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Post by sircloud on Jun 5, 2019 10:06:32 GMT
I’ve already explained my reads in previous pages, I haven’t been that active until like page 23 And what are your thoughts on what I said? you’re basically just recapping old pages and saying what you think about the interactions between players, I don’t really have an opinion on that. if you want to know my reads list you’ll find it like 20 pages in |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 5, 2019 10:12:53 GMT
And what are your thoughts on what I said? you’re basically just recapping old pages and saying what you think about the interactions between players, I don’t really have an opinion on that. if you want to know my reads list you’ll find it like 20 pages in I'll find it at some point, going to eat lunch first while taking a break from analysing pages as it's quite intensive. You really should be able to find something to say about what I think about the interactions though.. |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 5, 2019 10:50:10 GMT
well, if nothing else, i certainly like that snaq agrees with me (so far anyways) about alex bullshiting about being active
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 5, 2019 10:51:44 GMT
i will try to actually think about snaq's reads when im not sleep deprived
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 5, 2019 11:17:15 GMT
Page 14 starts with TBZ talking about pocket attempts. qtball, if anyone who do you feel it's most likely for that they're scum pocketing you? Finally, Edje appears after his sub-in. Overall, I like their introduction post. It seems like they put some thought into their reads and nothing really stands out as odd to me. Hoping to see more from this slot but cautiously townleaning from the first post. Now nuxl drunkposting. Alright. I don't want to read into the posts themselves much as I can barely understand them, but while following thread I vaguely remember someone saying that scum would probably be afraid to get into the thread so uninhibited, which is fair enough. not putting too much weight on this part, tho derped read Alex + duskfall as scum. As I said in my previous post (iirc) I can see the combo if Ayia is town, but I'll have to look into it more. It's a possibility. Regardless, derped went horribly about it all. qtball, what makes kotsyt more town than edje for you (at least on page 15). at this point both barely did anything but kotsyt is using excuses not to contribute while edje seems to actually be analysing the game. ayia you mention that Dusk is not scum and out of noxl / alex you'd find noxl most scummy? What makes this? I'd find it the other way around. Also why do you not mention or find TBZ scummy at all in this. I find it odd how everyone seems to hard TR him when he's definitely had some odd moments esp near the start of the game. Edit: Removed tag after reading further and seeing this was asked and answered already when nuxl pointed out the inconsistencies in the post. Most of page 16 was a debate about Ayia that took a lot of posts to get going, and some other reiterations that I've discussed before. I scumlean Ayia right now. they've made a couple good posts but also quite confusing ones that as i mentioned before. besides that, I've mentioned a lot of if ayia town / if ayia scum things so ayia's alignment feels quite pivotal to the game right now. End of page 16 Lynch AyiaWill change if stuff changes with the last 10 pages, this is where I'm at right now |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 5, 2019 12:22:00 GMT
Gonna make one more posts up to page 20 for now. will make sure to do the rest later Page 17 goes on about ayia and sircloud being similar to the way he responded to me asking him to do stuff.. it's kinda annoying how he's saying all kinds of stuff to excuse him not saying anything. scumlean here but lets hope the pages in the 20s he kept talking about in response to me asking him to comment on stuff will have something better (excuse ME but ps meta is absolutely EXCELLENT we TOTALLY Dont have VTs who feel like they should claim PR just so that they wont die, or people who ignore a seer who suddenly used a dayvig shot after they changed their claim to vT. that stuff totally doesn't happen) but fr we do have legit metas on PS, lol. but you have to do everything quickly which makes you unable to analyse stuff as well. that's true. Yeah NVM I think Tommy is just town here sorry for that sgsin If he rolled scum with insctives he's probably bumping that shit like crazy. He would also probably be trying to coach his scummates to not post the wierd shit like befotr If he rolled scum with someone who posted it's probably just only with someone like aiya or one of his nulls(not fort, so one of ed/dude that starts with k, but see my second paragraph) and it honestly might not be aiya given just how much paranoia he had in his last scumgame with distancing with his partners and finding different wagons to find What is it about him that makes you change your read on him frequently? paranoia? something else he's doing? i feel like he's largely keeping the same kind of style across his posts ayia, why is it impossible that dusk is scum on page 19? Otherwise the end of this post does feel more genuine that some of their other posts between analysing possible teams and being vulnerable with the difference between PS and forums. However, Ayia did win the forum official last year re: the difficult to transfer thing. I don't really get the tbz+nuxl team being impossible. Could you please explain this to me? Please explain this to me Ayia Alright, another Ayia post after nuxl and dusk discussing possible scumteams and scumchat activity. It seems good enough to, but not much to say about it esp now that we know that derped and cudds flipped town. Actually, nuxl duskfall since you two kinda analysed these players, do you think these flips would look badly for a particular person? In Ayia's post, they're getting defensive. I *could* see this post as frustrated town by being pushed, but in that case why target Nuxl especially Ayia. Try to analyse yourself how much it was OMGUS vs. a real read, as that's what I'm curious about. If you still stand by this push, could you summarise the reasons for it? nuxl, in the responding post you say that you flipped ayia from a tl to a null read. Was this due to the post I described above or due to a different post. If it's the post directly above, then why did this post do it instead of i.e. frustrated town. At everyone else, how do you feel about this Ayia v. Nuxl series of interactions? And that's page 20. |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 5, 2019 13:18:13 GMT
Aight no responses, I'll be going off to do administration for uni. I'll catch you all later
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 5, 2019 13:38:58 GMT
this came out of nowhere and it cost us the jailkeeper, sure thing it was in your scumreads but you parked on it for the rest of the game and it was sort of bandwagoning. Your posts also look really trolly, after your scumreads every post you made is like this. You’re basically lurking because you don’t say anything meaningful to the game. >came out of nowhere >stated my reads multiple times |
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 5, 2019 13:41:31 GMT
Just came back from showering and wanted to post one thing quickly as I was thinking about it. I haven't really touched on how I actually read alex. He's not done that much so far, but interaction w/ tbz / towncore / ayia wise, I feel like he has a decent chance to be scum if ayia is town from what i read so far also with confidence from TBZ. he's the kinda player to be "confident" in a read enough, to fakeclaim Bloodhound, and push a townie to death that way. i really dont mindlessly trust his confidence why can no one read me right anymore |
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 5, 2019 13:45:49 GMT
also for anyone complaining that im not providing anything useful, i am, its just hard to do that and fight off 24/7 scumreads that make 0 sense and are baseless.
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 5, 2019 13:48:52 GMT
anyway im pretty confidant one of edj/ayia flips scum at this point, as neither has really tried to do anything to help themselves or tried to make me tr them. Ayia flip would provide the most info right now, especially on duskfall / nuxl, if ayia is town i would like to see a edj flip, and then work from there.
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 5, 2019 13:49:19 GMT
lynch ayia
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Post by sircloud on Jun 5, 2019 13:56:03 GMT
this came out of nowhere and it cost us the jailkeeper, sure thing it was in your scumreads but you parked on it for the rest of the game and it was sort of bandwagoning. Your posts also look really trolly, after your scumreads every post you made is like this. You’re basically lurking because you don’t say anything meaningful to the game. >came out of nowhere >stated my reads multiple times you stated your reads, yes, but you didn’t explain them at all |
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 5, 2019 14:30:35 GMT
>came out of nowhere >stated my reads multiple times you stated your reads, yes, but you didn’t explain them at all ye i did |
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Post by sircloud on Jun 5, 2019 14:42:19 GMT
After getting home from work, i have decided that my reads are as follows Thunderballz
Duskfall - why is this being lynched?
Nuxl
Ayia - null
King
Derp
Dayan??
when did you explain these? |
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 5, 2019 14:47:03 GMT
After getting home from work, i have decided that my reads are as follows Thunderballz
Duskfall - why is this being lynched?
Nuxl
Ayia - null
King
Derp
Dayan??
when did you explain these? its almost like i explained them before that?? |
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Post by sircloud on Jun 5, 2019 14:49:15 GMT
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 5, 2019 15:16:00 GMT
ok maybe i didnt directly explain the derp read, but it can easily be inferred, as for the others i did explain. If you wanna nitpick my reads go ahead, but the sr on him was from the random sr on me after reading duskfall as scum(who is town), he then refused to claim later on and that was his own fault, if anything it should be punished and im still pissed about it. |
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Post by sircloud on Jun 5, 2019 15:33:53 GMT
ok maybe i didnt directly explain the derp read, but it can easily be inferred, as for the others i did explain. If you wanna nitpick my reads go ahead, but the sr on him was from the random sr on me after reading duskfall as scum(who is town), he then refused to claim later on and that was his own fault, if anything it should be punished and im still pissed about it. Can you quote a post where you explained the scumreads? |
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Post by qtball on Jun 5, 2019 16:22:38 GMT
yikes Snaq posted so much initial read on that is town especially since they’re the first person to actually attack me, this may be a bad meta but it just feels like someone finally isn’t trying to pocket me (especially since I agree nobody has even tried to push me over anything)
Also I still don’t know how I feel about kotsy but I think I’d put him lower on the list now due to lack of existence and honestly just a bad gut feel
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