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Post by sircloud on Jun 5, 2019 17:54:06 GMT
you used this as an argument to back up your reads, this is literally omgus
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Post by sircloud on Jun 5, 2019 17:55:52 GMT
do you seriously classify this as content from an active person and not as a troll?
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 5, 2019 17:56:40 GMT
you used this as an argument to back up your reads, this is literally omgus No, you wanted a post to show you my read, and that was me laying down my read, he came in with the intro line and said sorry for being inactive, yet placed a lynch on me for no reason at all, if you want to know what omgus is, it is Accusing someone solely because they accused you., key word SOLELY, as his intro and him being active are the main key factors, i would say this is not omgus, if you would like to start using terms correctly and not making bullshit reads i can point you towards the right direction, i dont get how anyone town reads you when all you do is spam sr me.
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 5, 2019 17:57:01 GMT
do you seriously classify this as content from an active person and not as a troll? its my playstyle and they know how i play. if you have a problem with it contact me after game
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Post by ayia on Jun 5, 2019 18:05:43 GMT
do you seriously classify this as content from an active person and not as a troll? its my playstyle and they know how i play. if you have a problem with it contact me after game I think we all have a problem with it and we're contacting you about it now actually say meaningful stuff instead of just shitposting your way through the game
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 5, 2019 18:49:13 GMT
its my playstyle and they know how i play. if you have a problem with it contact me after game I think we all have a problem with it and we're contacting you about it now actually say meaningful stuff instead of just shitposting your way through the game uh that wasnt the reason i said contact me after game, i meant if you have a problem wtih my town playstyle, contact me after game so i can actually discuss me being town and talk about the game outside of it. but if you wanna talk about it now sure
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 5, 2019 18:49:43 GMT
its my playstyle and they know how i play. if you have a problem with it contact me after game I think we all have a problem with it and we're contacting you about it now actually say meaningful stuff instead of just shitposting your way through the game js i am not shitposting, i wish good town was active rn, i could really use that to defend me.
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 5, 2019 18:57:49 GMT
it’s kind of hard to answer all of your questions the way you want them to be answered when in the last 10 posts you’ve asked me so many token nitpick of a former post
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 5, 2019 20:57:43 GMT
Just got back home and have a little bit of time so catching up with this thread. I'll ignore the bickering between people for now and respond to Ayia. I'll probably only get to analyse the final 10 pages tomorrow night when I have real free time again, but at least I have a decent feeling for the game rn. I forgot to point this out but I no longer scum read Ayia as I had them as an association read with derp, I’m now looking into like kotsy / ed / Ivan / one of the towncore as my scum reads Why did you see Ayia + derped as a scumteam? ayia , why is it impossible that dusk is scum on page 19?1 Otherwise the end of this post does feel more genuine that some of their other posts between analysing possible teams and being vulnerable with the difference between PS and forums. However, Ayia did win the forum official last year re: the difficult to transfer thing2. I don't really get the tbz+nuxl team being impossible. Could you please explain this to me?3 Please explain this to me Ayia Alright, another Ayia post after nuxl and dusk discussing possible scumteams and scumchat activity. It seems good enough to, but not much to say about it esp now that we know that derped and cudds flipped town4. Actually, nuxl duskfall since you two kinda analysed these players, do you think these flips would look badly for a particular person? In Ayia's post, they're getting defensive. I *could* see this post as frustrated town by being pushed, but in that case why target Nuxl especially Ayia. Try to analyse yourself how much it was OMGUS vs. a real read, as that's what I'm curious about. If you still stand by this push, could you summarise the reasons for it?5And that's page 20. I deleted irrelevant stuff and only left things to respond to for convenience To respond to bolded statement 1, I find Dusk very town for a few reasons. First is their interactions upon pressure. Their reactions were just analyses -- it wasn't defensive nor was it response via scumread. It was reaction as townie as a reaction can be. Furthermore, dusk doesn't fit in to the current scumteam I've laid out. I can't see nuxl and dusk being scum together due to their early game interactions, and I can't see Alex and Dusk as scum together due to Dusk's late day posts. Finally, I like how dusk was able to confidently flip their read on nuxl and call out the inconsistencies in his playing. I found that town regardless of nuxl's alignment. In conclusion, Dusk is one of the only reads I think will maintain regardless of nuxl's alignment just because I have so many reasons to townread them. Answering bolded statement 5, I still maintain my scum read on nuxl for several reasons. First, I said this before, but I don't like his reactions. I said this a lot yesterday so this may be redundant, but while he did have some good analysis, he often resorted to simply attacking me in order to discredit my reads. He also used simplification of the situation to make my read seem invalid. That goes back to my second reason, what my reasoning was initially: his pocketing of tbz. He seemed to be taking advantage of the fact that most people townread tbz and hoped to loot that by maintaining a similar readslist as him in order to be able to push those on said readslist. This also goes into my answer for bolded statement 3: while most people town read tbz, I think it's moreso because scum is afraid to scum read him. This is also evidenced by the fact that his interactions with almost everyone imply town, notably dusk, nuxl, fort, and even me. However, this townread isn't nearly as strong as the aforementioned on on Dusk. Moving on to my questions for you. Can you elaborate on the bolded statements 2 and 4? I think they were both in reference to something else that I'm missing. Btw I was probably a lot better last year than I am now soI'm talking about this post for what it's worth: Everything on ps is a randfest. Ps meta is literally sheep anyone with voice or staff because they are seen as the good players. As scum you always night kill those players. If someone scumreads and votes you always omgus because they are obviously scum trying to mislynch you. That's how ps works. facts Truth be told, it's a bit difficult for me to transfer from PS meta to forum meta, so that may account for some of my dumber reads here. My (generally fairly successful) formula on PS is essentially BSing a read on D1, pushing it, then reading wagonomics to find scum. That doesn't really work here so my D1 is a bit off. 2 is mostly made to show that although you may find it difficult, you definitely are able to transfer to forum meta. that's all and it was mostly for the people who don't know your history around here. 4: I think your post that you made kinda covered this, but it was the response to Nuxl where he SRd you, and to me it felt like you SRd him for being frustrated over him SRing you. AKA the "oh my god you suck", you must be scum response. It was a response to this post: ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/56950/thread So what I was asking you is to try to ask yourself and explain to us how much / whether any part of this is an OMGUS read and if it's partly an OMGUS read and that it's important why you feel like that still makes him scum
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 5, 2019 21:00:37 GMT
Also, one more thing. I've stated that nuxl is a townread of mine a couple of time. Could you try to look at why I said that and explain why you feel differently as I don't completely understand your read right now.
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Post by ayia on Jun 5, 2019 21:13:10 GMT
@lucas if that's the case can you compile a readslist for me?
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Post by ayia on Jun 5, 2019 21:13:56 GMT
@lucas if that's the case can you compile a readslist for me? Snaq ◢ ◤ oops
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 5, 2019 21:15:42 GMT
@lucas if that's the case can you compile a readslist for me? Snaq ◢ ◤ oops Sure, at first I wanted to do it when I read all of the game but if you want I can do it right now. But if you want the more detailed reasoning it's in my posts. What'd you get out of a readslist if you just want to explain why you think my read of nuxl is wrong? Regardless of what it is, I'll try to do it tomorrow during a lecture, going to bed now ^^'
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Post by ayia on Jun 5, 2019 21:22:58 GMT
Also, one more thing. I've stated that nuxl is a townread of mine a couple of time. Could you try to look at why I said that and explain why you feel differently as I don't completely understand your read right now. I don't believe you've said any sort of thing. I went through your iso and double-checked. If you could direct me to the post where you said that that would be grand
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 5, 2019 21:45:53 GMT
also for anyone complaining that im not providing anything useful, i am, its just hard to do that and fight off 24/7 scumreads that make 0 sense and are baseless. ...
1) you were nigh-universally townread for the entire day 2) how does being scumread prevent you from contributing about the rest of the game and other people's interactions?
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 5, 2019 22:00:46 GMT
since my last post i read through page 30 unlynch edjelynch alexander because i'd rather an afk mafia win than this shitposting contentlessly defensive fake-activity literally alex's only contributions so far are a readslist and "i am active and leading town" repeated over and Alexander489 - Scumlean Lucas ◢ ◤ - Null (I want to see interaction) duskfall - Hardtown Fort Fortifies Fort's Fortress - Townlean edjeanerations - Null (can we sub this?) ivanthebest - pls sub kotsytbussiness20 - pls sub nuxl - Scum qtball - Townread sircloud - Townlean Obviously, I think nuxl is scum for a few interactions yesterday. For that reason, tbz must be town; I stated several times that I cannot see a tbz / nuxl scum team. I have always been skeptical Alex for the same reason everyone else has, and with more people becoming active and me getting more reads, I'm more confident to turn this into a scum lean. In addition, this scum team is quite possible with nuxl, as as Snaq stated, nuxl was very quick to brush off any scum read of Alex. SirCloud is someone I'm hoping to see more active later. They've had a good start to the day, so I'm hoping to see more of it. As of right now, I townlean them, but again, that will possibly change as interactions increase. Right now, I have a difficult time placing in the scum team I have set out. After posting this I'll analyze the Alex / SirCloud interaction of the last page and this one more closely to see for possible scum team. I can't see duskfall as scum. Not only do I see a nuxl / dusk team as possible, but the reaction after pressure seemed very townie. Fort's actions I see more and more as town the more the game goes on, as he continues to do actions I think are (and have called him out for being) scum. I don't see this read changing. From this, I see the final scum member as someone in Ivan, Kotsy, Ed, and Snaq, from most likely to least likely. This entire scum team depends on the validity of my nuxl scumread. For that reason, nuxl is the most useful lynch for me. Lynch nuxl Q: Why do you see ivan,kotsy,Ed in that order? Specifically, why is kotsy between Ed and ivan, who have done basically the exact same thing? (make one post and disappear) I think we all have a problem with it and we're contacting you about it now actually say meaningful stuff instead of just shitposting your way through the game js i am not shitposting, i wish good town was active rn, i could really use that to defend me. Is that a scumread on literally everyone active? Which is to say, nuxl, dusk, ayia, lucas, qtball, sircloud, and me?
/me slowly conditions myself to use lucas instead of snaq so as to not be a hypocrite
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Post by ayia on Jun 5, 2019 22:56:40 GMT
Fort Colorcastle I appreciate you so much right now Also ig Ivan because fear of the unknown Kotsy over Ed because at least Ed is trying to be helpful, whereas kotsy is doing shit and playing off being a noob
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Post by qtball on Jun 5, 2019 23:45:30 GMT
Snaq if you want an answer to that question go back and find where I explained it
None of today’s content is even worth reading you guys are arguing about playstyles lik
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 5, 2019 23:45:59 GMT
Snaq seems to be giving his own views on the happenings, which is super important and helpful. I won't quote those posts because nothing specific to respond to. Just came back from showering and wanted to post one thing quickly as I was thinking about it. I haven't really touched on how I actually read alex. He's not done that much so far, but interaction w/ tbz / towncore / ayia wise, I feel like he has a decent chance to be scum if ayia is town from what i read so far also with confidence from TBZ. he's the kinda player to be "confident" in a read enough, to fakeclaim Bloodhound, and push a townie to death that way. i really dont mindlessly trust his confidence This is good information about qtball, and a good thing to note about sheeping him. Still so many people who have not posted :/. I've asked this before, but I would honestly like to ask everyone how they are feeling about lurking scum, and how to approach this situation. At this point I'd rather a lurking scum win than an Alex scum. //frustration about his goddamn shitposting and actual refusal to contribute unless literally everyone townreads him Holding town hostage like that is making me This is not ps, if you troll people they won’t read you as town, so please stop it. Pretty much everybody has noticed that you’ve been trying to be active by posting one liners and irrelevant stuff, when it comes to your reads all you had to back them up was rvs and omgus, sure it was day1 but you can’t have 3 scumreads based off of rvs and omgus. WHO is trolling ? ? ? please tell me that lol, im not TRYING to be active i AM active there is a difference, if you want me to just not post at all then lmk, because thats what i do on ps. >rvs and omgus were my reads, ok yea sure, if thats what you wanna call rvs and omgus then i would like to point you towards the mafiascum wiki page full of jargon terms, if you wanna actually discuss my reads and stuff ask me like you have been doing, not just call it rvs and omgus. the fact that over half of what you've said in this thread are trying to defend the fact that you're active looks really really bad for anyone analyzing your content. IF you were truly active you'd get over yourself and actually be active instead of rebutting people accusing you of inactivity. Helpful hint: The easiest way to make yourself look active is to contribute to actual discussion. Currently your activity is largely defensive, as noted before, and its starting to look like filler to me and I my SR on this slot is increasing every time you do it
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Post by ayia on Jun 6, 2019 0:29:31 GMT
Also did nuxl and duskfall just decide PS wasn't worth this lmao
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 6, 2019 0:31:07 GMT
i dont think they've talked today
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 6, 2019 3:00:30 GMT
also for anyone complaining that im not providing anything useful, i am, its just hard to do that and fight off 24/7 scumreads that make 0 sense and are baseless. ...
1) you were nigh-universally townread for the entire day 2) how does being scumread prevent you from contributing about the rest of the game and other people's interactions?
who said i wasnt contributing? if they are going to make stuff up about how i am not participating and i am just trolling/shitposting, then thats their fault, i was just trying to make them understand lol, (which is impossible because they are hard tunneling) if you read my other posts you can very well see i am contributing lots of content
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 6, 2019 3:01:08 GMT
since my last post i read through page 30 unlynch edjelynch alexander because i'd rather an afk mafia win than this shitposting contentlessly defensive fake-activity literally alex's only contributions so far are a readslist and "i am active and leading town" repeated over and Alexander489 - Scumlean Lucas ◢ ◤ - Null (I want to see interaction) duskfall - Hardtown Fort Fortifies Fort's Fortress - Townlean edjeanerations - Null (can we sub this?) ivanthebest - pls sub kotsytbussiness20 - pls sub nuxl - Scum qtball - Townread sircloud - Townlean Obviously, I think nuxl is scum for a few interactions yesterday. For that reason, tbz must be town; I stated several times that I cannot see a tbz / nuxl scum team. I have always been skeptical Alex for the same reason everyone else has, and with more people becoming active and me getting more reads, I'm more confident to turn this into a scum lean. In addition, this scum team is quite possible with nuxl, as as Snaq stated, nuxl was very quick to brush off any scum read of Alex. SirCloud is someone I'm hoping to see more active later. They've had a good start to the day, so I'm hoping to see more of it. As of right now, I townlean them, but again, that will possibly change as interactions increase. Right now, I have a difficult time placing in the scum team I have set out. After posting this I'll analyze the Alex / SirCloud interaction of the last page and this one more closely to see for possible scum team. I can't see duskfall as scum. Not only do I see a nuxl / dusk team as possible, but the reaction after pressure seemed very townie. Fort's actions I see more and more as town the more the game goes on, as he continues to do actions I think are (and have called him out for being) scum. I don't see this read changing. From this, I see the final scum member as someone in Ivan, Kotsy, Ed, and Snaq, from most likely to least likely. This entire scum team depends on the validity of my nuxl scumread. For that reason, nuxl is the most useful lynch for me. Lynch nuxl Q: Why do you see ivan,kotsy,Ed in that order? Specifically, why is kotsy between Ed and ivan, who have done basically the exact same thing? (make one post and disappear) js i am not shitposting, i wish good town was active rn, i could really use that to defend me. Is that a scumread on literally everyone active? Which is to say, nuxl, dusk, ayia, lucas, qtball, sircloud, and me?
/me slowly conditions myself to use lucas instead of snaq so as to not be a hypocrite
LOL
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 6, 2019 3:02:15 GMT
since my last post i read through page 30 unlynch edjelynch alexander because i'd rather an afk mafia win than this shitposting contentlessly defensive fake-activity literally alex's only contributions so far are a readslist and "i am active and leading town" repeated over and Alexander489 - Scumlean Lucas ◢ ◤ - Null (I want to see interaction) duskfall - Hardtown Fort Fortifies Fort's Fortress - Townlean edjeanerations - Null (can we sub this?) ivanthebest - pls sub kotsytbussiness20 - pls sub nuxl - Scum qtball - Townread sircloud - Townlean Obviously, I think nuxl is scum for a few interactions yesterday. For that reason, tbz must be town; I stated several times that I cannot see a tbz / nuxl scum team. I have always been skeptical Alex for the same reason everyone else has, and with more people becoming active and me getting more reads, I'm more confident to turn this into a scum lean. In addition, this scum team is quite possible with nuxl, as as Snaq stated, nuxl was very quick to brush off any scum read of Alex. SirCloud is someone I'm hoping to see more active later. They've had a good start to the day, so I'm hoping to see more of it. As of right now, I townlean them, but again, that will possibly change as interactions increase. Right now, I have a difficult time placing in the scum team I have set out. After posting this I'll analyze the Alex / SirCloud interaction of the last page and this one more closely to see for possible scum team. I can't see duskfall as scum. Not only do I see a nuxl / dusk team as possible, but the reaction after pressure seemed very townie. Fort's actions I see more and more as town the more the game goes on, as he continues to do actions I think are (and have called him out for being) scum. I don't see this read changing. From this, I see the final scum member as someone in Ivan, Kotsy, Ed, and Snaq, from most likely to least likely. This entire scum team depends on the validity of my nuxl scumread. For that reason, nuxl is the most useful lynch for me. Lynch nuxl Q: Why do you see ivan,kotsy,Ed in that order? Specifically, why is kotsy between Ed and ivan, who have done basically the exact same thing? (make one post and disappear) js i am not shitposting, i wish good town was active rn, i could really use that to defend me. Is that a scumread on literally everyone active? Which is to say, nuxl, dusk, ayia, lucas, qtball, sircloud, and me?
/me slowly conditions myself to use lucas instead of snaq so as to not be a hypocrite
im not even going to respond to this, its not even worth it, you guys are trying to get a reaction out of me and im just done, if you wanna harasss me contact me outside of this, not during game.
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 6, 2019 3:03:18 GMT
Snaq if you want an answer to that question go back and find where I explained it None of today’s content is even worth reading you guys are arguing about playstyles lik just lynch me so i can get out of this hell
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