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Post by meower9lives on Jun 19, 2019 2:53:13 GMT
Im actually starting to tr ! more when he is answering questions.
I am going to sleep, I’d like if everyone comes on tomorrow so we can have bigger discussions.
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 19, 2019 5:14:43 GMT
<div class="quote" author=" ❗ " source="/post/58745/thread" timestamp="1560902655"><div class="quote_body"><div class="quote_avatar_container"><div class="avatar-wrapper avatar_size_quote avatar-571" title="❗"><img src="//storage.proboards.com/5776777/avatar/aTAkJlmBwTfMoErPKnVo.png" alt="❗ Avatar"></div></div><div class="quote_header"><a href="/post/58745/thread"><abbr data-timestamp="1560902655000" title="Jun 18, 2019 19:04:15 GMT -5" class="o-timestamp time">Jun 18, 2019 19:04:15 GMT -5</abbr></a> <span itemscope="" itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"><a href="/user/571" class="user-link js-user-link user-571 group-0" itemprop="url" title=" ❗ "><span itemprop="name">❗</span></a></span> said:</div><div class="quote" source="/post/58741/thread" timestamp="1560896587" author=" ScorrchingTheaph "><div class="quote_body"><div class="quote_avatar_container"><div class="avatar-wrapper avatar_size_quote avatar-638" title="❓"><img src="//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/defaultavatar.png" alt="❓ Avatar"></div></div><div class="quote_header"><a href="/post/58741/thread"><abbr data-timestamp="1560896587000" title="Jun 18, 2019 17:23:07 GMT -5" class="o-timestamp time">Jun 18, 2019 17:23:07 GMT -5</abbr></a> <span itemscope="" itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"><a href="/user/638" class="user-link js-user-link user-638 group-0" itemprop="url" title=" ScorrchingTheaph "><span itemprop="name">❓</span></a></span> said:</div>and the N1 NK on Schia seems like it would come from you, as you were the only player voting him, even if it was a WIFOM vote.<div class="quote_clear"></div></div></div>Also, the Schia nk could not have come from me because I am not mafia. Disproved.<div class="quote_clear"></div></div></div><div class="quote" author=" ❗ " timestamp="1560907333" source="/post/58750/thread"><div class="quote_body"><div class="quote_avatar_container"><div class="avatar-wrapper avatar_size_quote avatar-571" title="❗"><img src="//storage.proboards.com/5776777/avatar/aTAkJlmBwTfMoErPKnVo.png" alt="❗ Avatar"></div></div><div class="quote_header"><a href="/post/58750/thread"><abbr title="Jun 18, 2019 20:22:13 GMT -5" data-timestamp="1560907333000" class="o-timestamp time">Jun 18, 2019 20:22:13 GMT -5</abbr></a> <span itemscope="" itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"><a href="/user/571" class="user-link js-user-link user-571 group-0" itemprop="url" title=" ❗ "><span itemprop="name">❗</span></a></span> said:</div><div class="quote" author=" meower9lives " source="/post/58748/thread" timestamp="1560905161"><div class="quote_body"><div class="quote_avatar_container"><div class="avatar-wrapper avatar_size_quote avatar-874" title="meower9lives"><img src="http://bestanimations.com/Fantasy/Dragons/dragon-animated-gif-7.gif" alt="meower9lives Avatar"></div></div><div class="quote_header"><a href="/post/58748/thread"><abbr class="o-timestamp time" title="Jun 18, 2019 19:46:01 GMT -5" data-timestamp="1560905161000">Jun 18, 2019 19:46:01 GMT -5</abbr></a> <span itemscope="" itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"><a href="/user/874" class="user-link js-user-link user-874 group-0" itemprop="url" title=" meower9lives "><span itemprop="name">meower9lives</span></a></span> said:</div>You tried saying an “I’m not scum because I’m not scum” statement with what you said about the schiavetto Nightkill<div class="quote_clear"></div></div></div>5) Because it works- he hasn't explained why a Schiavetto nk would probably be something "I do", and in fact, there was no accusation there at all except that I wifom lynched and killed him.<div class="quote_clear"></div></div></div>You lynched Schia because he was active, indicating that you saw him as a strong player. I don't really see anyone else I don't TR have some kind of interaction that would lead them to kill Schia, unless it was general fear kill which is still possible. DC'ed midpost; cba to reformat. Only the bottom line is what I said. |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 19, 2019 5:22:45 GMT
Very hot take. You make a good point about freddy because I don't think anyone besides me actually stated a TR on him. What do you think about ZoL being alive after being the 1st lynch D1 on Gimm1ck? If today leads to town lynched, then wouldn't the play be scum idle into MYLO rather than LYLO? Ty I am a hot person. I think Zestoflife is still town just because again, of POE and I can't imagine that he's scum. In a Scorrchingtheaph / Sir Mister / Meower lylo I would be stumped anyways. And yes, idle into mylo will be the play because discussion hurts town. I meant to say medium take btw. Sorry if the question wasn't clear, I didn't mean to ask whether or not ZoL was town or not by being 1st on Gimm1ck, I meant more of why he is alive. It was more along the lines of ZoL cruising after D1, being pretty much a uni-tr and not getting nk'ed despite that. I was expecting an answer along the lines of "town!ZoL hasn't been able to nail down scum after D1" or "scum!ZoL hasn't done much since D1" or "scum doesn't see town!ZoL as a threat" or something. |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 19, 2019 5:31:57 GMT
Scorrchingtheaph could be scum ONLY because I seriously doubt 3 town were on the mafia lynch, unless meower9lives is scum. That brings me to a dilemma- it's either meower / theaph because of the d1 lynch, or it's jsut naturally sir mister because he is scummy. Scorrchingtheaph has also been feeling like he is very cautious about the things he says. He gives good reasoning for every single one of his actions, which I can't believe town can consciously do (aka making sure everything is backed up by something and not fully gut read). I think it is the difference between playing on PS! versus playing on forums. I have more time to think and reread in general which means that when I do something I already thought it through. For example if this was PS! I would've posted something like, "bruh i literally just gut read you a couple of posts earlier." instead of typing out complete sentences that I have processed in my head. |
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 19, 2019 14:45:36 GMT
I definitely believe it is either ! or? as scum at this point.
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 19, 2019 14:46:05 GMT
Still heavily leaning towards !
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 19, 2019 14:50:17 GMT
That being said I am not 100% sure it is one of them.
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Post by Sir Mister on Jun 19, 2019 17:53:35 GMT
What I thought was Neo said the testosterone thing as a way of taunting mafia. Like "scum has no balls, fight me". I didn't realise the implication of Neo hinting at the player with a female-indicating username, and him telling scor and zorq to lynch them after his death. How I saw it, I thought Scor made a Day 4 joke RVS, rather than actually following Neo's reads. As partners, this couldve been done as weak distancing, and with the assumption that it wouldn't build an actual wagon. After I saw that, and I had the "animalmidwife/freddykyogre = 1 town + 1 mafia" in mind, I wanted scor to put his money where his mouth was and followed in that lynch. Kinda expected him to come up with some bs to shift the wagon, ngl. So, yes. Yes I did think scorrching would just bus their partner like that. Now that I see that their really was a reason for his vote there, I can much more easily see how his plays make sense as town. Freddy x scor is also off the table, so yeah. I have been convinced that scor is town. Yet again, not a reference. Theaph made an independent read and said that he was going to use wagonomics in the instance of the lurker lynch. And you're the one saying "animalmidwife / freddy " is 1 town + 1 mafia which means scum is following that read? You also previously mentioned that "everyone TRed freddy", even though he wasnt really mentioned as a hard tr by anyone but theaph. Basically going off your false misinterpretation of who's a uni tr and who's not led you to the kill.. Additionally if scorrchingtheaph is town, he would have probably be nked for starting the wagon. Sir Mister starts the day off believing that the wagon was a bus, and therefore he wasn't nked because Sir Mister planned to question / pressure him, but now that Theaph gave a valid answer, Sir Mister now does a complete 180 on his read, and theaph will probably be nked tonight. (Although now that I mention it, maybe not)?!? Also i want everyone to give their reads as to who is scum if I were to flip town About the testosterone thing, I have no idea what too think about it anymore. I'm kinda done breaking my head over it, so I'll just accept whatever scor said (y). I feel like my lynch is is fine where it is atm though. About the everyone TRed Freddy thing, im pretty sure like 4 people expressed a TR on him. I don't feel like I need a justification for mentioning a reason why Freddy couldve been nightkilled, but I can fetch quotes if you really want me to ig. If ❗ were to flip town, I'd still consider ZestOfLife to be the townies person here. The reference to the noobie game ended up revealing so much about Gimm1ck's scum playstyle, which was triggered by Zol. This is just never worth it as scum imo. Still see meower9lives as likely town for the D1 meower vs gimm situation, so ScorrchingTheaph would be my 2nd best guess as scum atm. If someone other than Zorquax ends up lynched, I'd lynch in lylo between the punctuation dudes. |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jun 19, 2019 18:35:56 GMT
Day 5.1 Votecount
———————— ! (Zorquax)(2)- meower9lives, Sir Mister Not Voting (3)- ZestOfLife, !(zorquax), ? (scorrchingtheaph) Day 5 will end on June 19th 2019 at 9:00 PM EST (in roughly 6.5 hours as of writing this post). With 5 alive, it takes 3 to hammer. If the day were to end now, ! (Zorquax) would be lynched. If there us any error with the votecount, please inform me via discord
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Post by ❗ on Jun 19, 2019 19:03:47 GMT
at this point im pretty sure it's between sir / meower namely because sir is accepting meowers townread and not even questioning it, and is sring the punctuation ofc and just in general the ? / ! thing seems way too coordinated for it to be two town with same reads. sir mister is still biggest read so far for said reasons but at this point if im wrong im wrong, and if im right i want my credit  don't let neo down @town |
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 19, 2019 19:37:44 GMT
Are you ignoring these things
The Day 1 Situation
The fact that SM+AnimalMidWife would’ve been 2 Afks for a while before either subbed in
Sir Misters Lynch on Animalmidwife
Anything I have said
Your own analysis on ?
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 19, 2019 19:38:36 GMT
Sir Mister gave the wagon on Animalmidwife prominence
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 19, 2019 19:40:15 GMT
>definitely believe
>not 100% sure
pick one
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 19, 2019 19:40:52 GMT
All this martyr stuff is making me tilt but I’m still pretty sure about ? Or ! Based on POE.
Btw ! if you lynch ? and give me good reason to, I might lynch him instead.
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 19, 2019 19:42:17 GMT
? By both I meant almost but not completely sure.
!s stuff about ? Seems possibly accurate, that’s one reason I am pretty sure about ?/!
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 19, 2019 19:43:09 GMT
But if I have to pick one, I’m going with not 100%
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 19, 2019 19:47:48 GMT
About the testosterone thing, I have no idea what too think about it anymore. I'm kinda done breaking my head over it, so I'll just accept whatever scor said (y). I feel like my lynch is is fine where it is atm though. About the everyone TRed Freddy thing, im pretty sure like 4 people expressed a TR on him. I don't feel like I need a justification for mentioning a reason why Freddy couldve been nightkilled, but I can fetch quotes if you really want me to ig. If ❗ were to flip town, I'd still consider ZestOfLife to be the townies person here. The reference to the noobie game ended up revealing so much about Gimm1ck's scum playstyle, which was triggered by Zol. This is just never worth it as scum imo. Still see meower9lives as likely town for the D1 meower vs gimm situation, so ScorrchingTheaph would be my 2nd best guess as scum atm. If someone other than Zorquax ends up lynched, I'd lynch in lylo between the punctuation dudes. I am your 2nd highest scumread, but you will just accept whatever I said? If you may, pull up quotes of 4 people saying they TR freddy please. I really don't see it. I skimmed back a bit and saw ZoL state a TR, but that's about it. If someone other than Zorquax is lynched, why do you think it goes to lylo with the "puncuation dudes?" |
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Post by ❗ on Jun 19, 2019 20:00:36 GMT
Are you ignoring these things The Day 1 Situation The fact that SM+AnimalMidWife would’ve been 2 Afks for a while before either subbed in Sir Misters Lynch on Animalmidwife Anything I have said Your own analysis on ? day 1 situation used to give towncred to either person animalmidwife was an afk, and ironrazorwhip lynched neo d1 and didn't do much after that, so yes, he existed at least once it's already confirmed that someone bus and u keep saying that sir mister pushed the wagon but all he did was give his own reasoning as "a team of 2 noobs wouldn't have killed pr, freddy / animal have to be opposite factions" somehow he himself is also sure that there is no rolecop in game what you say =/= what i think, what makes me need to believe what u said when i already have my own conclusions. ? is scummy as I said before, but at this point, when 2 people are thinking that it is between the punctuations, I refuse to believe both are town, tring each other, and coordinated. Sir Mister gave the wagon on Animalmidwife prominence how? |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 19, 2019 20:05:01 GMT
It looked like rvs at first, and then people followed onto Animal (which I believe you wouldn't have expected). It was not rvs; I already said this. What makes you say that you believe that I would not have expected people to lynch Midwife? I still want an answer to this. |
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Post by Sir Mister on Jun 19, 2019 20:32:50 GMT
Because of the Night 2 kill on C7. It doesn't make sense for me that new players would spot that C7 as a PR, and go for them. Gonna refer to what I posted in ps-mafia.proboards.com/thread/761/nightkills for this. A team of 2 noobs would go for obvtown like Neo or or yourself. More experienced players would make riskier kills like the one on C7, trying to get that PR out before they reach lategame. So freddy + (whoever animal subbed for) makes an unlikely scumteam because of that. Strange. What makes you think that scum did not rolecop on C7? Well, I didn't consider scum having PRs when I made that reasoning. It was that was after the doc died, and I went in full "there's only vanilla roles left" mode. now that mafia PL flipped, I think rolecop is still kinda unlikely so yeah I do stick by this reasoning, it did get 1 scum. |
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Post by ❗ on Jun 19, 2019 20:49:52 GMT
Strange. What makes you think that scum did not rolecop on C7? Well, I didn't consider scum having PRs when I made that reasoning. It was that was after the doc died, and I went in full "there's only vanilla roles left" mode. now that mafia PL flipped, I think rolecop is still kinda unlikely so yeah I do stick by this reasoning, it did get 1 scum. WHAT PR DO YOU THINK IT IS THEN??? |
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Post by Sir Mister on Jun 19, 2019 20:57:28 GMT
About the testosterone thing, I have no idea what too think about it anymore. I'm kinda done breaking my head over it, so I'll just accept whatever scor said (y). I feel like my lynch is is fine where it is atm though. About the everyone TRed Freddy thing, im pretty sure like 4 people expressed a TR on him. I don't feel like I need a justification for mentioning a reason why Freddy couldve been nightkilled, but I can fetch quotes if you really want me to ig. If ❗ were to flip town, I'd still consider ZestOfLife to be the townies person here. The reference to the noobie game ended up revealing so much about Gimm1ck's scum playstyle, which was triggered by Zol. This is just never worth it as scum imo. Still see meower9lives as likely town for the D1 meower vs gimm situation, so ScorrchingTheaph would be my 2nd best guess as scum atm. If someone other than Zorquax ends up lynched, I'd lynch in lylo between the punctuation dudes.
3) If someone other than Zorquax is lynched, why do you think it goes to lylo with the "puncuation dudes?"I'll accept the "I had a read on animal, wanted to bait out partner to cause a shift". 2) Wow you're really making me do this. k. Bolded the parts where freddy TRs are mentioned. I still feel like like iron posted this just to look like he's participating in this game but actually doesn't really bother with actually looking for scum (or playing the game at all). Have people played with him on PS! before? Does he lurk like this? Fenrir can we prod all the inactives plz. Out of all the inactives, I think he has a high scum equity based on his enterance. Freddy was on my radar too, but I think their recent posts seem like town reasoning to me. Then there is the Freddykyogre wagon I'd like to address. Neo+zorquax+jordan were voting him, and then zorquax and Neo went off after scor mentioned how he thought the wagon looked scummy. After that, people started getting a TR on Freddy? Why? Now we've seen jordan, a seemingly universal SR of the time, flip town. Idk about Zorquax, but this looks like mafia had 0 influence on freddy's wagon building up, and Scor having all of the influence on the wagon disbanding. Looking at scor + freddy as more likely partners because of this. If I was scum with freddy, that would've been an extremely easy bus, based off of interaction with Gimm1ck. If you read freddy's iso though, he is noob town. His defense of lynching meower, claiming it was a "reciprocating vote" is quite reasonable from his perspective. Do you actually think that scum!me would put my neck on the line to defend a scum partner? That is suicidal scum team play because if either us were to flips scum, the other would obviously be the next on the chopping block. We only know the number (two), but they are randomized independently. I am not confident on scum x scum cross D1. Gimm1ck's vote on Meower as distancing could be reasonable, but Meower trying to point out a slip from Gimm1ck in order to save himself at the end of the day doesn't come off as partner interaction. then shouldn't you have game confirmed for you whats the hold up
freddykyogre - You tr this ironrazorwhip - ? meower9lives - you tr this miketheentei - ? Neo - confirmed by cop pkmsilver - ? ❓ (ScorrchingTheaph) ZestOfLife - you tr this ❗ (Zorquax) - you don't sr this OK I stand by my read from yesterday, leading to 1 of "!" and "?" being scum, and 1 of Animalmidwife and Freddy being scum. I'm pretty torn between zorquax and scor with neo's TR added in in the mix. Then again, Scor also went for RVs on animalmidwife... on Day 4...
Freddy, in his very recent questions to me, has kinda come across as town.
So between those 2, I'd rather go for Animal atm.Lynch animalmidwife
I'd also very much like ZestOfLife and meower9lives ' opinions on the freddy-vs-animal and ?-vs-! situation I'm trying to present here. Zol is hard town and I still find meower+gimm1ck unlikely. That one's not hard to figure out... if I die I don't wanna have my reads be ignored. |
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Post by Sir Mister on Jun 19, 2019 20:58:08 GMT
Well, I didn't consider scum having PRs when I made that reasoning. It was that was after the doc died, and I went in full "there's only vanilla roles left" mode. now that mafia PL flipped, I think rolecop is still kinda unlikely so yeah I do stick by this reasoning, it did get 1 scum. WHAT PR DO YOU THINK IT IS THEN??? Don't know, doubt it matters much |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 20, 2019 0:08:59 GMT
2) If you may, pull up quotes of 4 people saying they TR freddy please. I really don't see it. I skimmed back a bit and saw ZoL state a TR, but that's about it. 3) If someone other than Zorquax is lynched, why do you think it goes to lylo with the "puncuation dudes?" 2) Wow you're really making me do this. k. Bolded the parts where freddy TRs are mentioned. 3) Zol is hard town and I still find meower+gimm1ck unlikely. That one's not hard to figure out... if I die I don't wanna have my reads be ignored. 2) Ignoring the fact that you counted yourself, in Neo's post he was clearly talking about MY read not his own. Try again. You went from "everyone here," to "4 people," and only brought up 3 examples. 3) I guess I didn't word my question clearly. I wasn't asking about why you scumread the "punctuation dudes," which you've already made obvious. I was asking why in the scenario where town!meower or town!ZoL is lynched, why you as town would think that it would be town!ZoL or town!meower nightkill into lylo with you, Zorquax, and me. I want to know why you think Zorquax and I are never the nightkill and scum does not idle. |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 20, 2019 0:12:41 GMT
It looked like rvs at first, and then people followed onto Animal (which I believe you wouldn't have expected). It was not rvs; I already said this. What makes you say that you believe that I would not have expected people to lynch Midwife? I still want an answer to this. Here's some motivation to respond to the question. |
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