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Post by ❗ on Jun 20, 2019 1:00:33 GMT
9pm est has been reached. GG town
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Post by ❗ on Jun 20, 2019 1:22:53 GMT
oh no did he mean 9 am est gg
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jun 20, 2019 2:40:00 GMT
DEADLINE Please hold
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jun 20, 2019 2:49:22 GMT
Day 5.2 Votecount
———————— ! (Zorquax)(2)- meower9lives, Sir Mister Sir Mister (1)-? (scorrchingtheaph) Not Voting (2)- ZestOfLife, !(zorquax) Day 5 has ended. Check your votes. Please stop posting, Lynch result will come shortly. If there us any error with the votecount, please inform me via discord.
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jun 20, 2019 3:17:00 GMT
(!) Zorquax has been lynched. They were Vanilla Townie. It is now Night 5. Night 5 will end on June 20, 2019, at 10:00 PM EST. Submit all actions privately via either Discord PM or the Mafia's factional chat to Fenrir.
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Post by Fenrir on Jun 21, 2019 2:34:37 GMT
Nobody has died.
It is now Day 6. Day 6 will end on June 23, 2019, at 10:30 PM EST. With 4 alive, it takes 3 to hammer.
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Post by ZestOfLife on Jun 21, 2019 2:49:12 GMT
Scum nokills
Lol
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Post by Sir Mister on Jun 21, 2019 4:59:00 GMT
gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
Abstain from lynching
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 21, 2019 18:58:29 GMT
Vote No Lynch
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meower9lives
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 21, 2019 22:22:07 GMT
Vote no lynch
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meower9lives
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 21, 2019 22:27:47 GMT
Unvote no lynch I just realized: A: I want some discussion about yesterday, B: None of our Nls were in correct format
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 21, 2019 23:46:00 GMT
Unvote no lynchI just realized: A: I want some discussion about yesterday, B: None of our Nls were in correct format A: "Don't discuss, hammer. Discussion only hurts town. Remember to qh and then unlynch for towncred" ~ (Zorquax's new rules of town) B: bet
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jun 22, 2019 1:59:55 GMT
actually i think all 3 of those count
DEADLINE
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jun 22, 2019 2:00:58 GMT
Nobody has been lynchedIt is now Night 6. Night 6 will end on June 22, 2019, at 10:00 PM EST. Submit all actions privately via either Discord PM or the Mafia's factional chat to Fenrir.
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Post by qtball on Jun 22, 2019 2:13:48 GMT
What did nobody flip
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jun 23, 2019 2:02:57 GMT
ZestOfLife has been killed. They were Vanilla Townie. It is now Day 7. Day 7 will end on June 25, 2019, at 10:00 PM EST. Reminder that it is LYLO. With 3 alive, it takes 2 to hammer.
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 23, 2019 8:13:17 GMT
Taking a moment to thank lord and savior ForgotToFlush for taking over as if it was nothing!
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Post by Sir Mister on Jun 23, 2019 8:26:28 GMT
Snaq ◢ ◤ qtball Don't let our lylo interupt your chat
Anyway, I'm gonna commit to rereading the entire thing, and compiling my reads. Mostly for myself, to make up my mind here.
I'm a slow reader, so this will take some time.
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Post by Sir Mister on Jun 23, 2019 11:57:42 GMT
Some of you may be sick of this, others may be thrilled. But it's time for Sir Mister's Great Read Turnarround™ v3. After looking back into the game, I reconsidered my read on meower9lives . Since it looked like meower was 100% dying, I found it such a bad idea to put a spotlight on Gimm1ck as him scumpartner, as he did post like 6 things telling everyone why he was scum. Looking back, Meower's reasoning behind Gimm1ck being scum was his "slip". Which is bs. I did believe that Meower genuinely believed this was a slip, and he expected people to agree with it after his death. but: If you trust me, shift to Gimm1ck. If you don't, lynch Gimm1ck tommorow, or shoot him if you are a vigilante of some sort tonight. If you thought Gimm1ck really slipped, why tell people to "trust you", rather than seeing into the slip? This will be my final post (besides reposting gimm1ck's slip) assuming no last minute shift to Gimm1ck Occurs.
As you may know, deadline is in about 10 minutes. I am about to be lynched.
I have been hard scumread by Neo for a reason that I have done my best to answer against. I did not read through that carefully and my vote on ZOL was partially if not mostly RVS.
A little while earlier today, I caught a slip from Gimm1ck, I would appreciate it if any Vigilante would shoot him, and if not, you will lynch him tomorrow.
I am not as hard scumreading freddykyogre anymore.
I just hope you guys listen to me and will lynch Gimm1ck after I die.
My previous list of scumreads has probably changed a lot, only take into account the Gimm1ck thing about him slipping. This is what did fortify my tr on meower, as you know... putting a spotlight on your partner 10 minutes before dl would be stupid if you die anyway... Hi People. So, as you can see by deadline we are going to go into night 2 in less than a day. I feel it is necessary to give PRs some tips.
If you are a Role Cop, remember that the following results mean the following things.
Vanilla = Can be Town or Scum
Role Cop = Scum
Tracker = Scum
Bodyguard = Town
Doctor = Town
Roleblocker = Can be Town or Scum
Jailkeeper = Scum
Any Vigilante = Town
Watcher = Scum
If you get a result that indicates they are for sure scum, claim Role Cop with all of your results.
Some tips for Trackers
If you get someone targeting 2 people, claim that you are Tracker and claim all of your results, this means that person who targeted 2 people is confirmed scum.
If you get someone targeting a dead person, they are likely but not for sure scum. Also, if you get someone who claims VT targeting anyone, that person is scum.
Overall, always claim a result indicating someone is for sure scum.
Excuse me why are you helping scum? You said yourself tracker is scum. Now, seeing that a Mafia Roleblocker flipped, this could have actually have had the intent to defend the partner. Or maybe to say that (whatever other mafia PR is). And looking back at C7's reaction to meower here , this really was written in the POV of a rolecop. Someone did mention that C7 was kinda obvious (I think that was Zorquax), I can see why now. Also random hindsight note, I saw C7 mention "I would give my life to say that freddy is town" somewhere, which probably meant he cleared him. Would fetch quote if I had more time By the end, meower did start pocketing me a bit: [ x][ x] He also mentioned that my vote on midwife is what gave the wagon on scum prominence [ x]... but I mean, that was just true, wasn't it? My lynch on midwife was mainly directed towards ScorrchingTheaph, the intent was that that would be the lynch of the day, unless someone came up with some bs to get around that lynch. And only 1 thing happened that day with the intent of shifting the lynch: [ x] And over the course of the game, townflip after townflip that did SR meower occured... I'm all for sticking by my own reads, but at one point you do need to reconsider... I apologise for my lack of format here but I didn't end up having enough time to make something pretty, gotta leave now Also random sidenote: 1) I'm alright. I've been playing mafia on PS for a couple of years, but prior to that I played a lot on Pokemon Online, and I used to play face-to-face mafia a lot with my friends growing up. I recently started playing on MafiaScum as well. I like chat-based mafia for the pacing, but I think forum-based games give an opportunity for stronger gameplay, and I appreciate that aspect of it. 2) Right now I'm feeling a bit uneasy with Meowers' and freddy. RE: Meower, I don't really see any of his posts as an attempt to gamesolve--a lot of his play feels reactionary. I don't think anything he's doing is suggestive of alignment (hard agree w/ ZoL in that respect), but that in itself is antitown: If he's scum, he's not giving us anything to read off of; if he's town, he's not giving us anything to read off of. Note for example that he didn't answer this question [x]--shows me that, regardless of alignment, he's unwilling to engage with the playerlist (PL) and consider things through other players' perspectives (which is absolutely necessary for successful scumhunting). If Meow is town, I want a more generative, collaborative playstyle from him for this game, and I want him to be legible. Otherwise, you're just an easy mislynch. RE: Freddy, while I appreciate that you at least said something, I would've liked more depth. If you find yourself not having much to say, that's usually a sign that you should start asking more questions (Why did so-and-so do this, why do you think so-and-so is scummy, etc. etc.). You mentioned you didn't have much to go off of, but also seem to be saying that if enough people voted for Meower, you'd be alright lynching them. Is there a reason you feel confident going along with Gimm1ck or Neo (the two people who are currently lynching Meow)? 3) I would love it if the summer circuit brought more activity to the room (which it has), but I'd love it even more if we saw an improvement in skill level from some of our existing players. (Mostly, though, I just want a Mariah Carey custom avatar)The reason town needs to win this is to contribute to Schia's Mariah Carey avatar on PS, don't @ me.
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Post by Sir Mister on Jun 23, 2019 11:58:17 GMT
so I'm declaring intent to lynch meower eventually, to be clear here
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meower9lives
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 23, 2019 12:17:45 GMT
I have a few things to say about your bad rereading. 1: I had seen enough into the slip, and was trying to get people to listen to me. Also it was in no way BS. 2: Would Gimm1ck hardbus me, and would I screw my partner over if I was dying. 3: How would my table have been ANY help to a Mafia Roleblocker, I merely posted all possibilities. 4: How was I pocketing you... 5: Have you not ignored ?
If you lynch me and are town, I hope you enjoy being the reason town loses.
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meower9lives
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 23, 2019 12:18:26 GMT
Read back on ?
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meower9lives
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 23, 2019 12:19:39 GMT
I actually sr ? over you quite a bit, but am troubled by the fact that if this sr on me continues we will almost certainly lose.
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meower9lives
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 23, 2019 12:22:44 GMT
The reason I think you are town and ? is scum is everything you do seems genuine, which is not at all the case for ?.
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meower9lives
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 23, 2019 12:37:41 GMT
That being said I cannot be all that sure about you being town. As said, you were one of the only people who voiced a TR on freddy when he then died later. I almost can see you killing him but I find it harder to see ? doing it. Your "readup" completely ignores ? Also something I have to say about that rolecop table That was solely saying what the alignment of someone who showed that result would be. When I said Tracker was scum if a role cop got a result on them, that's because town tracker + town rolecop isn't possible. Town Roleblocker + Town Rolecop is though. If you check all possible role combinations, you will see how I got all those results. I put them there because I did not want a potential noob rolecop to think something like a jailkeeper result meant the target was a town PR who could be trusted.
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