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Post by quojova on Jun 20, 2020 14:37:01 GMT
I think litteleven is town. Why would mafia say that? I also slightly tr them at this point, but if the post you are referring to is this one (I haven't figured out how to quote multiple times yet): "Further, would like to reiterate that this game is unwinnable without activity / proper wagon formation, scum can somewhat easily enforce plurality and its 3 mislynches before a lylo. There's also quite good odds of lynching scum and vote history helps a lot down the line if you're town. Please commit to a vote even if you have absolutely no reads." I think it's quite possible that a maf sees the dead air and also sees the opportunity to post widely accepted mafia strategy to gain trs. Maybe it makes your partners a bit more likely to be lynched, but if it makes you significantly less likely to be lynched it's very worth it. It's still a slight tr from me but I suspect it's to a much lesser degree than you currently think from your wording. I would like to see elaboration on your post here, although it's not even clear to me which post from litteleven you were referring to. |
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Post by myo! on Jun 20, 2020 14:41:17 GMT
lynch qtballturbo btw Rick Astley got rickrolled by a someone on reddit. wtf how dare you lynch tbz |
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Post by myo! on Jun 20, 2020 14:42:23 GMT
anyway, how is everyone doing? good? cool. let's fuck some shit up.
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Post by myo! on Jun 20, 2020 14:45:44 GMT
yknow after playing one day on MU I'm surprised to have not seen another page pop up.
is this gonna be one of those dead forum games where we essentially randvote and pray, or are we going to get actual discussion?
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Post by myo! on Jun 20, 2020 14:49:51 GMT
I think litteleven is town. Why would mafia say that? also this is literally the weakest read I've ever seen. There's a lot of reasons to say the things Litt said. Any drive town has to say something, mafia has an equal, alternative drive to say that same thing- to gain trust. I'm not saying you shouldn't note that what Litt said was helpful- it truly did raise a good point, Scept just did something stupid and got called out on it. But reading Litt as town based off of something so loose, plus so little explanation... it just looks like you're trying to hide behind Litt as if he's your shield. |
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Post by myo! on Jun 20, 2020 14:52:07 GMT
Further, would like to reiterate that this game is unwinnable without activity / proper wagon formation, scum can somewhat easily enforce plurality and its 3 mislynches before a lylo. There's also quite good odds of lynching scum and vote history helps a lot down the line if you're town. Please commit to a vote even if you have absolutely no reads. Following up, something like this could be easily used by a good scumplayer to mislead town, so that town questions everything, most prominently who they lynch, which can make the difference between a win and a loss. |
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Post by pkq on Jun 20, 2020 15:01:31 GMT
Hey around how do we bold again because I haven't been on here in a minute?
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Post by myo! on Jun 20, 2020 15:08:35 GMT
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Post by Schrodinger on Jun 20, 2020 15:15:15 GMT
I think litteleven is town. Why would mafia say that? litt saying that could be interpreted both ways, but I don't like the tone of this rn, oof how do you quote multiple times in same message |
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Post by Schrodinger on Jun 20, 2020 15:21:16 GMT
lynch qtballturbo btw Rick Astley got rickrolled by a someone on reddit. wtf how dare you lynch tbz turbo. did I stutter? |
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Post by Schrodinger on Jun 20, 2020 15:24:42 GMT
I think litteleven is town. Why would mafia say that? I also slightly tr them at this point, but if the post you are referring to is this one (I haven't figured out how to quote multiple times yet): "Further, would like to reiterate that this game is unwinnable without activity / proper wagon formation, scum can somewhat easily enforce plurality and its 3 mislynches before a lylo. There's also quite good odds of lynching scum and vote history helps a lot down the line if you're town. Please commit to a vote even if you have absolutely no reads." I think it's quite possible that a maf sees the dead air and also sees the opportunity to post widely accepted mafia strategy to gain trs. Maybe it makes your partners a bit more likely to be lynched, but if it makes you significantly less likely to be lynched it's very worth it. It's still a slight tr from me but I suspect it's to a much lesser degree than you currently think from your wording. I would like to see elaboration on your post here, although it's not even clear to me which post from litteleven you were referring to. this sums up most of my thoughts here, just remove the bit after slight tr. if anything, I see this more as a scum move than town because it's a good statement to feign town with. |
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Post by Schrodinger on Jun 20, 2020 15:27:07 GMT
Hey around how do we bold again because I haven't been on here in a minute? ono pkq is in this. yo can you read the thread and pop in some spicy takes? |
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Post by quojova on Jun 20, 2020 15:28:38 GMT
doing a read list with posts as of star's response to pkq in hopes that it generates discussion or useful connections for the future
I refuse to do null reads, which means that most of these are very very slight (ordered within tiers)
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star
generating useful discussion, and I've agreed with a lot of the points they've made so far.
lifesucc
the "turbo" thing is aggressively suspicious, and it feels like a TWTBAW kinda thing to me.
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litt
has had generally helpful posts, although as seen from my above post I think posting widely accepted mafia strategy is not really that townie
ayia
very slight read here, but he started the game and got ZoL off of chad for a meme reason, which looks townie to me
pkq
ok I said I wouldn't be doing null reads but his only post is like 99% NAI. I'm putting him here for now because theoretically he could have asked mafia chat instead.
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ZoL
pretty slight here too, but was pushed off of chad suspiciously easily and also cast a safety vote on the first slot, which weakens any slight wifomy analysis we could get out of it because instead of looking at the player list and picking a player he just decided on the first slot. Not sure how cohesive a thought this is, if it makes no sense I can elaborate.
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joker
sus on this slot for reasons stated in my above post
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Post by pkq on Jun 20, 2020 15:33:50 GMT
Thank you. Also I will be reading more on what happens later today. |
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Post by quojova on Jun 20, 2020 15:42:43 GMT
guys cats is really beating us in activity
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Post by Schrodinger on Jun 20, 2020 15:43:52 GMT
what is twtbaw
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Post by myo! on Jun 20, 2020 15:45:47 GMT
doing a read list with posts as of star's response to pkq in hopes that it generates discussion or useful connections for the future I refuse to do null reads, which means that most of these are very very slight (ordered within tiers) TT star generating useful discussion, and I've agreed with a lot of the points they've made so far. lifesucc the "turbo" thing is aggressively suspicious, and it feels like a TWTBAW kinda thing to me. T litt has had generally helpful posts, although as seen from my above post I think posting widely accepted mafia strategy is not really that townie ayia very slight read here, but he started the game and got ZoL off of chad for a meme reason, which looks townie to me pkq ok I said I wouldn't be doing null reads but his only post is like 99% NAI. I'm putting him here for now because theoretically he could have asked mafia chat instead. M ZoL pretty slight here too, but was pushed off of chad suspiciously easily and also cast a safety vote on the first slot, which weakens any slight wifomy analysis we could get out of it because instead of looking at the player list and picking a player he just decided on the first slot. Not sure how cohesive a thought this is, if it makes no sense I can elaborate. MM joker sus on this slot for reasons stated in my above post Zol is likely just not taking this seriously, or he's really just taking Ayia's word that Chad is good at the game, which either way doesn't give off too many negative vibes. So really I'd move those two to a neutral read position simply because there's nothing indicative of their alignment with their minimal posts, but I do expect more from them to come. I really want to give Joker the first time pass, but I'm extremely hesitant to ad the point you brought up was a good one, though his low-effort posts could be traced back to the fact that this is his first Forum Game to my knowledge. PKQ - I don't see how you got this read at all. He asked a question on something unrelated to the game, and then said he'd be more active later, essentially admitting that he's going to be low-posting. Apart from that, I can understand your reasonings to your reads, and for the most part, they have ground to stand on. |
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Post by myo! on Jun 20, 2020 15:46:46 GMT
and yes I understand those reads were written before pkq was declaring his future inactivity, but I wanted to bring it up.
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Post by myo! on Jun 20, 2020 15:48:16 GMT
I think litteleven is town. Why would mafia say that? litt saying that could be interpreted both ways, but I don't like the tone of this rn, oof how do you quote multiple times in same message a lot of copypaste. |
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Post by myo! on Jun 20, 2020 15:55:09 GMT
guys cats is really beating us in activity this is because most of their game is online, most of ours is not. |
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Post by myo! on Jun 20, 2020 16:03:06 GMT
oh, looking back on Litt's post has also made me realize that he's essentially trying to get players who aren't as good at reading to just sheep those who are trying, which honestly.
Disturbs me a lot, personally.
He's basically telling the players actually reading to be super careful as they have lots of power, but then those who aren't can just sheep their asses off until they find the right wrangler for them.
This honestly is putting me off a lot, but because this is still in rhe earlier phases, I'll give it a pass and let Litt explain himself.
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Post by myo! on Jun 20, 2020 16:04:39 GMT
oh, looking back on Litt's post has also made me realize that he's essentially trying to get players who aren't as good at reading to just sheep those who are trying, which honestly. Disturbs me a lot, personally. He's basically telling the players actually reading to be super careful as they have lots of power, but then those who aren't can just sheep their asses off until they find the right wrangler for them. This honestly is putting me off a lot, but because this is still in rhe earlier phases, I'll give it a pass and let Litt explain himself. pinging litteleven so he sees this and responds accordingly. |
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Post by ayia on Jun 20, 2020 16:06:40 GMT
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Post by ayia on Jun 20, 2020 16:07:35 GMT
That was supposed to be a bunch of question marks but it got reformatted into frownie faces ugh
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Post by myo! on Jun 20, 2020 16:07:38 GMT
eye think that the whole game agrees, repeating it is just unneeded. kek |
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