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Post by ayia on Jun 20, 2020 16:46:15 GMT
one thing I really don't like is Ayia completely disregarding my attempts to explain myself but who knows maybe he's just being stubborn. i don't understand where this is coming from you did not attempt to explain yourself, you just justified?? sorry sweetie Lynch dragondriftaway |
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Post by myo! on Jun 20, 2020 16:47:08 GMT
i wanna say that i don't think litt is scum but i don't think that sole post is a reason to townread, or even townlean him. Litt is still a null right now for that line that was just so off-putting, even though there may have been good intentions behind it. This goes to both foreverjoker and quojovaso honestly, anything I said is more of a reason to scumread those two over Litt, and while I doubt Quojova is scum, I still might as well bring up the possibility because of it. |
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Post by myo! on Jun 20, 2020 16:51:19 GMT
one thing I really don't like is Ayia completely disregarding my attempts to explain myself but who knows maybe he's just being stubborn. i don't understand where this is coming from you did not attempt to explain yourself, you just justified?? sorry sweetie Lynch dragondriftaway"I just don't see what else it really means. But hey, maybe I'm reading too much. Maybe it's just some stupid one-off line telling people they need to vote, or smth" "a lot of what I said revolves around the final line of that post "Please commit to a vote even if you have absolutely no reads."" "honestly it just really puts me off, not as Litt is scum but as that line isn't helpful at all. I've said lines like that too many times to count in my months of mafia." note how you didn't respond to a single one of these lines honey you're literally walking on a tightrope right now |
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Post by ayia on Jun 20, 2020 16:54:05 GMT
i don't understand where this is coming from you did not attempt to explain yourself, you just justified?? sorry sweetie Lynch dragondriftaway"I just don't see what else it really means. But hey, maybe I'm reading too much. Maybe it's just some stupid one-off line telling people they need to vote, or smth" "a lot of what I said revolves around the final line of that post "Please commit to a vote even if you have absolutely no reads."" "honestly it just really puts me off, not as Litt is scum but as that line isn't helpful at all. I've said lines like that too many times to count in my months of mafia." note how you didn't respond to a single one of these lines honey you're literally walking on a tightrope right now the first one doesn't require response, it's literally just you admitting I'm right the second I responded to the third was done after you posted that wasn't it? |
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Post by myo! on Jun 20, 2020 16:54:35 GMT
so sorry babe but going out of your way to press on lines that aren't me explaining myself is just nonsensical, you're trying to dig them into the back and put focus on me for wording my posts wrong.
like shut the hell up. please. just. stop typing.
you're no longer making any sense and are just looking for reasons to pounce. while I'm not gonna cross because I'm hesitant to say tunnelling is really a scum move, but I'm going to kindly ask you to stop, take a deep breath, and read.
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Post by ayia on Jun 20, 2020 16:55:27 GMT
oh it was the same post, but again doesn't apply to your argument that i'm not responding
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Post by myo! on Jun 20, 2020 16:57:10 GMT
I seriously doubt that line is scum-indicative. I mean for it to come from the place of a maf trying to act maliciously these things would need to be true: 1) Litt thinks that the game philosophy she posted is literally anti-town 2) Litt thinks that this anti-town game philosophy will be readily adopted by players after that one post 3) Litt thinks that no townie will call him out on this game philosophy that is literally anti-town. OR, more reasonably: 1) Litt thinks that this game philosophy is pro-town i love this this doesn't count as a response. |
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Post by ayia on Jun 20, 2020 16:59:06 GMT
so sorry babe but going out of your way to press on lines that aren't me explaining myself is just nonsensical, you're trying to dig them into the back and put focus on me for wording my posts wrong. like shut the hell up. please. just. stop typing. you're no longer making any sense and are just looking for reasons to pounce. while I'm not gonna cross because I'm hesitant to say tunnelling is really a scum move, but I'm going to kindly ask you to stop, take a deep breath, and read. LMAOOOO how did I think you were tonally scum before when this was on the horizon i'm literally just responding to your posts rationally and then you pull this on me I'm weak I'm probably not going to press this further because you just pulled out the fattest OMGUS I've ever seen and this probably isn't going anywhere until someone else comes to everyone else in the game: READ THIS POST AHAHAHA |
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Post by myo! on Jun 20, 2020 17:00:24 GMT
"I just don't see what else it really means. But hey, maybe I'm reading too much. Maybe it's just some stupid one-off line telling people they need to vote, or smth" "a lot of what I said revolves around the final line of that post "Please commit to a vote even if you have absolutely no reads."" "honestly it just really puts me off, not as Litt is scum but as that line isn't helpful at all. I've said lines like that too many times to count in my months of mafia." note how you didn't respond to a single one of these lines honey you're literally walking on a tightrope right now the first one doesn't require response, it's literally just you admitting I'm right the second I responded to the third was done after you posted that wasn't it? "admitting you're right" I literally fucking said I didn't see any other meaning to what Litt said apart from my explanation, and while in retrospect, what I said is just factually incorrect, I'm explaining my thought process. |
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Post by ayia on Jun 20, 2020 17:01:42 GMT
a lot of what I said revolves around the final line of that post "Please commit to a vote even if you have absolutely no reads." read quojova's post on Litt's post but even so that's a good philosophy tbh @dragondriftaway does this not count as a response lol?? you're the one who yelled at me for reiterating what other people had already said |
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Post by myo! on Jun 20, 2020 17:02:01 GMT
so sorry babe but going out of your way to press on lines that aren't me explaining myself is just nonsensical, you're trying to dig them into the back and put focus on me for wording my posts wrong. like shut the hell up. please. just. stop typing. you're no longer making any sense and are just looking for reasons to pounce. while I'm not gonna cross because I'm hesitant to say tunnelling is really a scum move, but I'm going to kindly ask you to stop, take a deep breath, and read. LMAOOOO how did I think you were tonally scum before when this was on the horizon i'm literally just responding to your posts rationally and then you pull this on me I'm weak I'm probably not going to press this further because you just pulled out the fattest OMGUS I've ever seen and this probably isn't going anywhere until someone else comes to everyone else in the game: READ THIS POST AHAHAHA ugh mood I even directly said I wasn't saying you were scum I was just saying your read is garbage. that is in no way an omgus. |
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Post by myo! on Jun 20, 2020 17:03:13 GMT
read quojova's post on Litt's post but even so that's a good philosophy tbh @dragondriftaway does this not count as a response lol?? you're the one who yelled at me for reiterating what other people had already said oh this post I guess it's sort of a response but it's really not adressing the issue I had, because you obviously seemed to have no clue the reason I said that specifically and so you just redirected me. |
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Post by ayia on Jun 20, 2020 17:03:15 GMT
the first one doesn't require response, it's literally just you admitting I'm right the second I responded to the third was done after you posted that wasn't it? "admitting you're right" I literally fucking said I didn't see any other meaning to what Litt said apart from my explanation, and while in retrospect, what I said is just factually incorrect, I'm explaining my thought process. okay sure but even so why does that require a response you're getting so heated off of a single read i- |
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Post by myo! on Jun 20, 2020 17:04:31 GMT
I just don't see what else it really means."admitting you're right" I literally fucking said I didn't see any other meaning to what Litt said apart from my explanation, and while in retrospect, what I said is just factually incorrect, I'm explaining my thought process. okay sure but even so why does that require a response you're getting so heated off of a single read i- because it's a read on me and that's what I do to defend myself I- |
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Post by ayia on Jun 20, 2020 17:05:49 GMT
quojova obviously the part of your readslist I disagreed with was the hard tr on "star" aka dragondriftway aka arc curious to see if that still applies after this mess
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Post by myo! on Jun 20, 2020 17:05:54 GMT
i feel like i have reverted to my january roots of throwing a fit the moment someone scumreads me because I'm scared of dying.
funny how that works.
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Post by ayia on Jun 20, 2020 17:06:49 GMT
okay but you're like screaming at me lmao for what
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Post by quojova on Jun 20, 2020 17:08:32 GMT
i wanna say that i don't think litt is scum but i don't think that sole post is a reason to townread, or even townlean him. Litt is still a null right now for that line that was just so off-putting, even though there may have been good intentions behind it. This goes to both foreverjoker and quojova I think this is a reasonable position, and I realize in my post I made it a bit unclear but I think saying that Litt's post is scummy as a maf trying to get towncred is fine, but saying that it's a maf trying to take the town down the wrong path makes no sense (which is a position you no longer hold, if I'm understanding you correctly). That being said I'm still inclined to call a move with the intent to help town slightly town-leaning, although in the case of that post I'll agree that it's not by much. It didn't seem overtly town-cred grabbing to me in a game that started out will pretty low real activity. I have two questions for you: 1) what do I call you, I assume "star" is not what you want and I don't want to copy-paste the symbol every time 2) what are your primary goals d1 as town? do you focus your effort on trying to find one/two scum? do you trying to tighten poe with a solid towncore? do you focus on getting a day with plenty of info to refer to in future days? etc. I was going to stay out of this ayia-star flamewar to see how it settles but I see I've just been called upon for my thoughts, I'll say something about it soon |
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Post by myo! on Jun 20, 2020 17:08:44 GMT
quojova obviously the part of your readslist I disagreed with was the hard tr on "star" aka dragondriftway aka arc curious to see if that still applies after this mess my pride  i literally don't care if their reads change since their reads shouldn't have been so strong anyway. |
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Post by myo! on Jun 20, 2020 17:12:07 GMT
i wanna say that i don't think litt is scum but i don't think that sole post is a reason to townread, or even townlean him. Litt is still a null right now for that line that was just so off-putting, even though there may have been good intentions behind it. This goes to both foreverjoker and quojova I think this is a reasonable position, and I realize in my post I made it a bit unclear but I think saying that Litt's post is scummy as a maf trying to get towncred is fine, but saying that it's a maf trying to take the town down the wrong path makes no sense (which is a position you no longer hold, if I'm understanding you correctly). That being said I'm still inclined to call a move with the intent to help town slightly town-leaning, although in the case of that post I'll agree that it's not by much. It didn't seem overtly town-cred grabbing to me in a game that started out will pretty low real activity. I have two questions for you: 1) what do I call you, I assume "star" is not what you want and I don't want to copy-paste the symbol every time 2) what are your primary goals d1 as town? do you focus your effort on trying to find one/two scum? do you trying to tighten poe with a solid towncore? do you focus on getting a day with plenty of info to refer to in future days? etc. I was going to stay out of this ayia-star flamewar to see how it settles but I see I've just been called upon for my thoughts, I'll say something about it soon what I stand on that view isn't that Litt was ever directly scum, but one of two possibilities - Litt was scum trying to mislead town with less experience (e.g joker.) - Litt was town who proposed a bad idea that would hurt town in the long run. |
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Post by myo! on Jun 20, 2020 17:13:31 GMT
okay but you're like screaming at me lmao for what for reading me over something that shouldn't ever come across as alignment-indicative, and then refusing to properly look at the read from a PoV that isn't your own. |
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Post by litteleven on Jun 20, 2020 17:16:13 GMT
for what it's worth, I laid out a fact that should be common knowledge, but works well as a springboard to reaction test people and looks like its served its purpose well
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Post by quojova on Jun 20, 2020 17:20:33 GMT
btw while I think about the star-ayia stuff was anyone actually impressed with joker's response at all? maybe I'm just not getting the "It could change later on but I think mafia could of kept their mouth shut easily.
Like they could of tried to gain plurality later on without revealing their plan."
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Post by litteleven on Jun 20, 2020 17:22:48 GMT
oh, looking back on Litt's post has also made me realize that he's essentially trying to get players who aren't as good at reading to just sheep those who are trying, which honestly. Disturbs me a lot, personally. He's basically telling the players actually reading to be super careful as they have lots of power, but then those who aren't can just sheep their asses off until they find the right wrangler for them. This honestly is putting me off a lot, but because this is still in rhe earlier phases, I'll give it a pass and let Litt explain himself. appreciate the analysis but it's always the simplest solution that works. Low wagons lead to 2/3plurs which are much more easily manipulable through number and you're better off backing a person you tr than not voting in this theme. |
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Post by sadisticnarwhal on Jun 20, 2020 17:23:42 GMT
Ya'll really analyzing a sentence that deep bro. If anything I'd think joker would be scum from that terrible d1 TR and just trying to get cred later on or something.
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