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Post by Bomb Moss on Nov 8, 2017 17:16:10 GMT
Which it isn't shit.
Ok gonna make a hastied reply here.
Basically, VigVig's original post was bad, but despite the flaws in his post, Broken Jukebox's reaction felt like a scum reaction, since it came out more of a "fuck off" kinda post than "you're wrong dude" kinda post. Instead of smashing VigVig's post, they just tried to intimidate them off the lynch, which is a scum move.
Hence my vote on them
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Nov 8, 2017 19:07:27 GMT
Also n1, I loverboy'd on BGB, but from reading these posts, I'm assuming that someone used Screamer, could someone confirm/inform me about this? Honestly, Loverboy is such a strange night action to use. Certainly strange and worth taking note of, but I am not sure how I feel about it. Quick rundown: Vet claimed tallier blocked, VigVig claimed watcher on champ and blocked. Rest of the players have implied that they didnt use investigative. BGB is an exception because he has not posted .-. This isn't too important, but isn't Loverboy outclassed by Babysitter? On the off chance that the person you target is town and is also the nightkill target, you can protect them. HOLD UP Cseel is the second scum Her posts are so weird When I read your first post, I didn’t at any point think ‘oh this is so forced’ Why bring that up? It’s giving off such a scummy vibe And then you say you loverboyed BGB BUT you think someone used screamer How does a But make sense there? It seems picky and stupid but like why would he person who used screamer admit to it. If anyone used screamer, I’d say you did This wasn’t well explained, but I’m in a rush and couldn’t t honk of a good way to put itthink Nice job trying to deflect attention away from yourself. 1. "cseel is the second scum?" Why are you so confident? 2. Of course cseel's posts were "forced" and it's not scummy for them to bring it up. It is very obvious that they needed to make the minimum 3 post count, hence the triple post. It's NAI and your read is based off of nothing. 3. I agree that "but" was not the best word to use in that sentence, but it is not something worth scumreading over. You are nitpicking over pointless details. Scumreading for the Loverboy claim would be a legit read. Scumreading for the BGB lynch would be a legit read. Scumreading for an honest comment and grammar is not a a good enough reason. The only thing worthwhile in your post is saying that cseel may have used Screamer. I do not think this is the case, as cseel could have easily just claimed an inspection action and said it was blocked. It's a little bit of wifom, but I still find the Loverboy claim strange. So, as far as I understand it... Vigvig is on me for player meta (literally calling it out of character) plus "reactions" Xnadrojx is bussing vigvig on the reaction part Vet is on me to probably make sure I can't plurshift onto Vigvig Therefore if vigvig is scum so is vet if there was even 3 scum in the beginning, if there was just 2 then probably all 3 of these r town. As I have plur and will most likely die, I might as well tell u what I did. Switched Vannilerizer You may ask why not screamer, but assuming someone else was going to make the logical play and switch screamer, I thought I might as well also switch off vannilerizer to stop scum using that as well. VigilanteVigoroth c.l.a.i.m Lynch Vigvig purely because this is the only way I will stay alive if someone else jumps on vigvig or gets off me (both unlikely to happen) 1. Player meta is not completely horrible. 2. You say Xnadrojx is bussing but fail to mention why he is scum. 3. Vet is most likely basic town imo. You still do not give any reason to why they are scum. 4. I don't understand what you are trying to say here. If there were 3 scum in the game right now (there aren't) why are all 3 of them scum? If there are 2 scum in the game how are they suddenly all town? 5. What are you asking VigVig to claim? He already claimed Watcher targeting Champ and was blocked. In all honesty, both VigVig and Bored are almost equally scummy. I retract my town read on VigVig. Current reads are: Broken Jukebox: scum lean aknolan: null VigilanteVigoroth: scum lean Bomb Moss: town Champ∞1604: town Veteran Lycanroc: town lean ForgotToFlush: null cseel: scum lean bluegummybear7: scum lean
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Nov 8, 2017 19:15:39 GMT
Oops did I not mention his lover boy thing I was in a rush and accidentally skipped over it yeah that was just weird too oracle is Better in like every way because Taking a day to lynch scum isn’t bad we can still discuss and stuff, and then killing a town instead of confirming as Town is a huge blow
Anyway, Cseel’s post just seem like, off in a way
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Post by aknolan on Nov 8, 2017 19:22:35 GMT
I'd still like people who used investigative roles to say what the message they got was, because that could help us in the future with figuring out what happened each night.
FTF I'm not even going to bother with the whole "you've proven how clueless you are" thing you did because I honestly don't care if you think I'm clueless. I know I'm not and I don't have the energy to prove it to you /and/ help town so. have fun.
Scorrch asked me to say something about my reads, so I'll say some stuff about that now.
first there's bored and I have to wonder why you are all lynching him. He hasn't done anything that seems all that scummy to me. Bored to me leans town, even if he's not incredibly active, but then again I'm not incredibly active either.
Vigvig is a lot scummier to me, for one him asking why people didn't lynch is weird because people not lynching /always/ happens. besides that his reasoning overall has been kind of bad. Like saying bored's reaction was out of character without taking into consideration that literally everyone when having a bad day would respond to the "why didn't you lynch" question like that. Vigvig is leaning scum for me.
"Bomb Moss" has bad reasoning too, and a lot of posts each with very little content. his reasoning that the post was more of a "fuck off" post than a "smashing the argument with logic" post would mean that at this point he should probably be scumreading ftf, but he hasn't said anything about him that I saw. He just said something about bored. Leaning scum on him too.
Champ has been doing a lot, talking a lot, helping town a lot and generally being very useful. He has good reasoning and logic and is generally just a very towny player.
Vet is very scummy to me, and probably my biggest scumread. He simply said "therefore" and then lynched bored, and there was no reasoning before that. I couldn't even find it in previous posts. Generally hasn't said a whole lot of useful stuff. heavily leaning scum
ftf... well he annoys me a lot but he does seem to be more of an exasperated townie than anything else. He is active at least and while he doesn't always make sense and his ideas aren't always the best, or in cases like vanillaising as town they're the worst, he's leaning town for me.
scorrch to me seems like town. He makes sense and tries to keep discussing, even when it's with ftf. he keeps bringing up good points and such. Leaning town again.
cseel has made some posts about bgb this day and has said something about loverboy stuff and somehow seems to think whether or not that worked is related to whether or not there was a screamer? ftf I think I found the clueless person you've been confusing me with. cseel is neutral for now because I just don't know what his deal is.
can't really get a read on bgb either, but I did see he was on the epiccreeper lynch which I don't think was a bus. neutral, slight lean to town.
Now what this means for what I'm going to do is that I'm going to lynch vigvig. He's not my strongest scumread but he's the only one that might get lynched at this point, and I think it's better than bored getting lynched.
so lynch vigilante vigorith
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Nov 8, 2017 20:05:30 GMT
M8 when it’s 3-3-2 every vote counts. If it was like 4-2-1 then sure you can not bother but it just seems weird to not put forward your vote when it could drastically change the outcome of the day
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Nov 8, 2017 20:07:09 GMT
Oh yeah, I was literallly messaged nothing. When I asked snaq, he told me no result meant no result
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Nov 8, 2017 20:08:19 GMT
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Nov 8, 2017 21:10:40 GMT
>an hour till deadline
Gedoff. Scum is Bored and Cseel I feel like I’ve explained everything I can, whilst bored has just gotten angry, said my question was useless, and done nothing else. If it doesn’t involve him being lynched, he just doesn’t care enough to talk about
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Nov 8, 2017 22:12:53 GMT
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Nov 9, 2017 22:06:32 GMT
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Nov 9, 2017 22:11:06 GMT
BASED SUICIDE BOMBER
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Nov 9, 2017 22:49:57 GMT
Despite the PL saying otherwise, I am in fact dead
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Nov 9, 2017 23:19:02 GMT
Compat check got Bored and BGB as not the same alignment Full post coming soon
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Nov 10, 2017 0:36:04 GMT
Can I just say that my wish got granted and that I'm eternally grateful ANyways:God like half of this post is just absolute shit and filler questions/responses
Therefore Lynch broken jukebox THEREFORE WHAT?So, as far as I understand it... -Good lord what even The most absolutely blatant, contrived reactionary read I've ever seenOf all the people to be conf town we get this jackassWhich it isn't shit. Ok gonna make a hastied reply here. Basically, VigVig's original post was bad, but despite the flaws in his post, Broken Jukebox's reaction felt like a scum reaction, since it came out more of a "fuck off" kinda post than "you're wrong dude" kinda post. Instead of smashing VigVig's post, they just tried to intimidate them off the lynch, which is a scum move. Hence my vote on them If you think that Bored's abrasiveness is lynch-worthy then why not lynch me? Fucking Hell Megan already said all this shit didn't sheSo, as far as I understand it... Vigvig is on me for player meta (literally calling it out of character) plus "reactions" Xnadrojx is bussing vigvig on the reaction part Vet is on me to probably make sure I can't plurshift onto Vigvig Therefore if vigvig is scum so is vet if there was even 3 scum in the beginning, if there was just 2 then probably all 3 of these r town. As I have plur and will most likely die, I might as well tell u what I did. Switched Vannilerizer You may ask why not screamer, but assuming someone else was going to make the logical play and switch screamer, I thought I might as well also switch off vannilerizer to stop scum using that as well. VigilanteVigoroth c.l.a.i.m Lynch Vigvig purely because this is the only way I will stay alive if someone else jumps on vigvig or gets off me (both unlikely to happen) 1. Player meta is not completely horrible. 2. You say Xnadrojx is bussing but fail to mention why he is scum. 3. Vet is most likely basic town imo. You still do not give any reason to why they are scum. 4. I don't understand what you are trying to say here. If there were 3 scum in the game right now (there aren't) why are all 3 of them scum? If there are 2 scum in the game how are they suddenly all town? 5. What are you asking VigVig to claim? He already claimed Watcher targeting Champ and was blocked. In all honesty, both VigVig and Bored are almost equally scummy. I retract my town read on VigVig. Current reads are: Broken Jukebox: scum lean aknolan: null VigilanteVigoroth: scum lean Bomb Moss: town Champ∞1604: town Veteran Lycanroc: town lean ForgotToFlush: null cseel: scum lean bluegummybear7: scum lean -Fuck your reads they all suck
- Player meta is absolutely horribleFTF I'm not even going to bother with the whole "you've proven how clueless you are" thing you did because I honestly don't care if you think I'm clueless. I know I'm not and I don't have the energy to prove it to you /and/ help town so. have fun. "Bomb Moss" has bad reasoning too, and a lot of posts each with very little content. his reasoning that the post was more of a "fuck off" post than a "smashing the argument with logic" post would mean that at this point he should probably be scumreading ftf, but he hasn't said anything about him that I saw. He just said something about bored. Leaning scum on him too. Vet is very scummy to me, and probably my biggest scumread. He simply said "therefore" and then lynched bored, and there was no reasoning before that. I couldn't even find it in previous posts. Generally hasn't said a whole lot of useful stuff. heavily leaning scum ftf... well he annoys me a lot but he does seem to be more of an exasperated townie than anything else. He is active at least and while he doesn't always make sense and his ideas aren't always the best, or in cases like vanillaising as town they're the worst, he's leaning town for me. scorrch to me seems like town. He makes sense and tries to keep discussing, even when it's with ftf. he keeps bringing up good points and such. Leaning town again. -Good second response but I'm still not over that fucking hider circle speculation lmao -Xnad is pretty much going along at the same pace all game, so if you wanna say that his recent stuff is scummy, then you say that most of his stuff is scummy. Just a general observation -Basic Bitch read on Vet. Well I mean I don't TR vet either but you're gonna need something more than that. Lower your expectations -Vanillaising as town is an absolutely golden strat and I'll be fucking damned if I didn't do it -"even when it's ftf": alludes to my earlier point of people missing the main fucking message
Now at this point I'm thinking of giving my account to Megan and letting her play the rest of this fucking game because she defended me better than I defended me but oh well. I think the easiest way to game solve is POE but I'm not sharing the process get your own. Scorch*#
FTF Bored
Aknolan*# Vet* Xnad** And we have a winner Vote Xnad Regardless of who gets lynched, I have a plan
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Nov 10, 2017 0:37:18 GMT
also i assume cseel sb'ed
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Nov 10, 2017 1:55:31 GMT
I also think that cseel indeed bombed bgb (inb4 scum chauffeur + suicide bomb combo) Champy used Neighborizer on me N1. I was planning to Seraph Knight cross with them last night, but they told me "it would be for the best if we wait another night." They did not tell me what their night action was going to be, but I'm pretty sure that they did not choose to suicide bomb bgb. Now that there's only a singular Mafia left, I think that it's safe for me to claim my Night 1 action. I used Neighborizer on Aknolan. Aknolan has claimed their N1 action to me. He appears to be town. Before I claim last night's action, I would like Jodie Whittaker to claim theirs. After their claim, POE will be easy. If we do not lynch Mafia tonight, what do you guys thing about having everyone use Seraph/Doc/Bodyguard and randomizing targets? (Circle wont work b/c Bus Driver)
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Post by Bomb Moss on Nov 10, 2017 1:57:56 GMT
FTF has clearly been using logic alongside his abrasiveness. I see them quotewalling and responding to shit. I don't see Jukebox doing that.
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Post by Jodie Whittaker on Nov 10, 2017 3:26:17 GMT
Forgottoflush, broken jukebox and aknolan are all town. I used tallier.
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Nov 10, 2017 3:40:49 GMT
then the game is over, lynch Xnad
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Post by Bomb Moss on Nov 10, 2017 4:20:50 GMT
Ah damn, you guys have 4 confirms and 2 lynches in a 6p game. Lynch XnadrojXThere's no winning this now, so I'll just make my death post and final thoughts so the next NOC can get posted. Our lurking Day 1 was mostly cuz I had no clue what to post. We ended up having to bus EpicCreeper since they were the only scummy user which put us at a disadvantage since we lost 1 action to use and made everything much tighter. We managed to pull off a Screamer and I neighbourized Champ, which was why they didn't want to lynch me yesterday. Then I tried to push the under-the-radar lynch, which didn't fly since pushing one scummy post isn't enough to convince people. We screamered and killed Champ except this time screamer was switched so rip. Then cseel Bombed BGB. Good Game imo, could have played better with the day play probs but yeah. Props to Champ for all the plan making and FTF for actually putting in effort into the game. Snaq ◢ ◤, if I can raise the white flag now, please let me do it.
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Nov 10, 2017 4:25:58 GMT
3 clears mate
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Nov 10, 2017 4:40:23 GMT
also the fuck are you kids using neighbourizer for jesus christ
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Nov 10, 2017 4:53:46 GMT
Ah damn, you guys have 4 confirms and 2 lynches in a 6p game. Lynch XnadrojX There's no winning this now, so I'll just make my death post and final thoughts so the next NOC can get posted. Our lurking Day 1 was mostly cuz I had no clue what to post. We ended up having to bus EpicCreeper since they were the only scummy user which put us at a disadvantage since we lost 1 action to use and made everything much tighter. We managed to pull off a Screamer and I neighbourized Champ, which was why they didn't want to lynch me yesterday. Then I tried to push the under-the-radar lynch, which didn't fly since pushing one scummy post isn't enough to convince people. We screamered and killed Champ except this time screamer was switched so rip. Then cseel Bombed BGB. Good Game imo, could have played better with the day play probs but yeah. Props to Champ for all the plan making and FTF for actually putting in effort into the game. Snaquaza, if I can raise the white flag now, please let me do it. reported for gaimthrow >:V lynch Xnadrojx
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Post by Champ1604 on Nov 10, 2017 6:36:42 GMT
No. My dream of having 50+ posts in a game. My. dream. Duck u scum/suicidebomber.
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Nov 10, 2017 6:40:05 GMT
No. My dream of having 50+ posts in a game. My. dream. Duck u scum/suicidebomber. reported for deadtalk also ur fault for not going with Seraph Knight plan
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