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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jun 19, 2020 4:20:10 GMT
Traitor vs Trackers
By ForgotToFlush
The First Event of the 2020 PS! Mafia Summer Circuit
A 15p Open Setup 11v4
Host: ForgotToFlush
Start Date: 6/20/20
Day Phase Length: 48 hours
Night Phase Length: 24 hours
Minimum Run-time: approx 12 IRL Days
Maximum Run-time: 21+ IRL Days
Deadline Time: 12:00 AM EST
Contact and Communication: No Outside Contact. Mafia are allowed to communicate with their partners through the provided medium. They cannot communicate with the Traitor, and vice versa.
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jun 19, 2020 4:29:10 GMT
Rules:
0. I am the host of the game, and my word is law. I reserve the right to modkill/godkill or substitute anyone out those who break the rules.*
1 (a). You can only talk about the game in the game thread unless specified otherwise. Once you are dead you cannot talk to anyone about the game. Knowledge acquired after death cannot be transferred from a dead player to a living player.
1 (b). Outside influences (eg. Threatening, bribes, wagers, promises, alliances, trust tells) are not tolerated and will be dealt with severely.
1 (c). Sportmanship should be shown. Salting, raging or ranting will not be tolerated. At the end of the day, mafia is played for fun. The general rule of thumb is attack the play, not the player.
2. Every user has a role PM. Role PMs may not be shown to other users at any time. All forms of sharing of role PMs is banned. If anyone finds a person encouraging others to share their role PMs or sharing role PMs themselves, please be sure to report it.
3 (a). You may vote to lynch users during the day by posting in bold "Vote: (user)" or "Lynch: (user)", unlynch users by using "Unvote: (user)" or "Unlynch: (user)" or not vote anyone by using "No Lynch". Votes will not be counted if they do not follow this format.
3 (b). Votes can be in shortform as long as I understand who you are voting.
4. Do not edit or delete your posts, if you need to correct something make another post.
5. Only sign up if you know you're going to be at least fairly active. If you do not post/are not active during the day phase, you will be prodded. If you fail to post after the previous prod or require excessive prods, you will be subbed out.*
6. Night talking is disallowed.
7. Extensions will be granted according to the situation.*
8. Actions should be sent during night phase through Forum Pm. If you do not have an action, please send an "idle". Failure of sending any actions during the night phase will result in the host deciding your action for you.
9. I might not be in time to end day at deadline or hammer. In this case the game will enter into Twilight. You are allowed to post but not allowed to vote or unvote users.
10. Angleshooting is prohibited. This is included but not limited to submeta, hostmeta and using out of game information to form reads. Punishable by modkill.*
11. Do not try to exploit any loopholes or circumvent the rules.
*-will be judged at the discretion of hosts/staff
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jun 19, 2020 4:29:32 GMT
Setup Details:
- The Traitor knows the identities of the Mafia Goons, but the Goons do not know the identity of the Traitor.
- If all the Mafia Goons die, the Traitor automatically dies and the game ends.
- The Bodyguard cannot target the same person consecutively
3x Mafia Goon
1x White Flag Traitor
8x Vanilla Townie
2x Tracker
1x Bodyguard
Sample Role PMs:
Good evening user:
Role: Mafia Goon
Alignment: Mafia
Abilities: Factional Nightkill, Factional Communication.
Your associates: Your fellow Mafia members.
Win Condition: Control at least 50% of the player base.
Good evening user:
Role: White Flag Traitor
Alignment: Mafia
Abilities: None, except for your vote.
Your associates: Your fellow Mafia members.
Win Condition: Control at least 50% of the player base while at least one other Mafia Goon is alive.
Good evening user:
Role: Vanilla Townie
Alignment: Town
Abilities: None, except for your vote.
Your associates: Your fellow townsfolk.
Win Condition: You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.
Good evening user:
Role: Tracker
Alignment: Town
Abilities: Target one player at night to learn who, if anybody, that player targeted that night.
Your associates: Your fellow townsfolk.
Win Condition: You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.
Good evening user:
Role: Bodyguard
Alignment: Town
Abilities: Each night phase, you may attempt to protect one player in the game from being night-killed. If they are targeted for a kill, you will die instead.
Your associates: Your fellow townsfolk.
Win Condition: You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jun 19, 2020 4:35:45 GMT
Players:
1) skyfigueroa
2) mystery2448 passthesaltdude
3) dudeplayz25 OM~!
4) cyan
5) VigilanteVigoroth
6) spiderz
7) Gary The Savage
8) ToiletBro2
9) cayden
10) ScorrchingTheaph xinc
11) AlmostZero Fort Colorcastle
12) blurb
13) micromorphic
14) Crespo Alexander489
15) battler444
Alive:
@omroom
@splashattacklol
@cayden
@battler444
Dead:
D1: micromorphic, Mafia Goon
N1: garythesavage, Bodyguard
D2: stormfirelucario, Vanilla Townie
N2: spiderz, Tracker
D3: eblurb, Mafia Goon
N3: toiletbro2, Vanilla Townie
D4: skyfigueroa, Vanilla Townie
N4: passthesaltdude, Vanilla Townie
D5: xinc, Vanilla Townie
N5: fort, Tracker
D6: alexander489, Vanilla Townie
Sublist:
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jun 20, 2020 4:00:16 GMT
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 20, 2020 4:02:43 GMT
hi everyone glhf!! lynch gary the savage for not posting start of day scumpool btw
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blurb
Innocent Child
ball so hard
Posts: 92 
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Post by blurb on Jun 20, 2020 4:05:01 GMT
tr sky for being first to talk + idt scum outs themselves like that. would like to wait a bit before dropping the old scum bomb.
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Post by spiderz on Jun 20, 2020 4:27:54 GMT
tr sky for being first to talk + idt scum outs themselves like that. would like to wait a bit before dropping the old scum bomb. TRing Blurb for trying it make a TR early into game even if his read is completely NAI (although this can be a blurb traitor and skyfig mafia interaction but i kinda doubt) anyways Lynch Toni |
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Post by cyan on Jun 20, 2020 4:46:39 GMT
not going to hop on this d1 tr bandwagon, you can't change my mind unless i do
Lynch Vig^2
let's talk, shall we?
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 20, 2020 5:51:03 GMT
Everyone's still asleep but kinda wanna get some more lines in before I'm the one asleep while everyone's talking. TR on spiderz for the same reason he TRs eblurb. I would say the same for eblurb but spiderz is definitely giving me the stronger town vibes so more of a town lean on him. Neutral on sfl but for now I'm willing to pass everyone who spoke as town until more people start talking.
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 20, 2020 6:02:04 GMT
/\/\@f1@9001\1554yvv|-|A+
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 20, 2020 6:03:07 GMT
not going to hop on this d1 tr bandwagon, you can't change my mind unless i do tr this. scumlean everyone on the tr chain (sky blurb spider) |
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Post by cayden on Jun 20, 2020 6:47:03 GMT
Hi
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Post by cyan on Jun 20, 2020 6:57:13 GMT
it's time to tryhard, fam not going to hop on this d1 tr bandwagon, you can't change my mind unless i do tr this. scumlean everyone on the tr chain (sky blurb spider) What makes you say that everyone who dispensed townreads early in this game is an insta-scum? I don't see any benefit, sure, but I don't see any reason why it would cause you to lean them as scum. Do you think that doing so is lazy, or is there some other reason that makes everyone who has already spoken regarding the tr chain scum? |
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Post by cayden on Jun 20, 2020 7:00:01 GMT
I never used forum so sorry If Im
really slow
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Post by spiderz on Jun 20, 2020 7:05:28 GMT
not going to hop on this d1 tr bandwagon, you can't change my mind unless i do tr this. scumlean everyone on the tr chain (sky blurb spider) Yeah i'm not following at all, care explaining? it's time to tryhard, fam tr this. scumlean everyone on the tr chain (sky blurb spider) What makes you say that everyone who dispensed townreads early in this game is an insta-scum? I don't see any benefit, sure, but I don't see any reason why it would cause you to lean them as scum. Do you think that doing so is lazy, or is there some other reason that makes everyone who has already spoken regarding the tr chain scum? I think your stretching it by saying "insta-scum". And can you tell me why you see no benefit? I never used forum so sorry If Im really slow Please just don't be inactive. |
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 20, 2020 7:06:18 GMT
I could see why you think there would be no benefit to it, but I think it's more of narrowing down your options for lynches by having some very soft TRs. There's not much to go off yet and putting your thoughts out there helps get the ball rolling (as is sort of happening right now).
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Post by cayden on Jun 20, 2020 7:10:00 GMT
Can y'all see my messages
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Post by spiderz on Jun 20, 2020 7:48:55 GMT
I could see why you think there would be no benefit to it, but I think it's more of narrowing down your options for lynches by having some very soft TRs. There's not much to go off yet and putting your thoughts out there helps get the ball rolling (as is sort of happening right now). This!!! Not gonna say i townlean/read skyfig but they 100% should not be the lynch today. also cayden yes we can see your post. |
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Post by cyan on Jun 20, 2020 8:07:32 GMT
it's time to tryhard, fam What makes you say that everyone who dispensed townreads early in this game is an insta-scum? I don't see any benefit, sure, but I don't see any reason why it would cause you to lean them as scum. Do you think that doing so is lazy, or is there some other reason that makes everyone who has already spoken regarding the tr chain scum? I think your stretching it by saying "insta-scum". And can you tell me why you see no benefit? I guess I am stretching it. As for your question, I don't see how declaring a townread with little to go off of is productive. I can accept sky's remark of saying that it might help stir up discussion given the fact that, well, it has, but other than that it doesn't really come across as something useful to me. I don't think there's anything wrong with it, mind you. It doesn't come across as a scummy move, which is why I questioned Scorrch's scumlean. |
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Post by cyan on Jun 20, 2020 8:11:42 GMT
Can y'all see my messages Spiderz has already confirmed that we can, indeed, read your messages, so here's something I'd like to offer as advice: Say as much on your mind as possible. It's much easier to sort through your thoughts when they're spaced across fewer posts as opposed to creating new ones for one-line thoughts or questions. No pressure, you can spend 10 minutes writing something up. We have 48 hours, and that's a lot of time to get things fleshed out. Don't feel urged to have to post something every now and then, just talk to us whenever you have something to say or you want something cleared up. On this note, do you have any reads or feelings towards the game? Does anyone seem like they might be town or scum? If so, who and why? pls ignore the fact that i just posted two replies in separate posts |
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Post by spiderz on Jun 20, 2020 8:19:21 GMT
I think your stretching it by saying "insta-scum". And can you tell me why you see no benefit? I guess I am stretching it. As for your question, I don't see how declaring a townread with little to go off of is productive. I can accept sky's remark of saying that it might help stir up discussion given the fact that, well, it has, but other than that it doesn't really come across as something useful to me. I don't think there's anything wrong with it, mind you. It doesn't come across as a scummy move, which is why I questioned Scorrch's scumlean. Players actively advancing non-productive discussion is actually scummy, but it actually is advancing game state so it most definitely is productive which is why scorr's scumlean confuses me, does he think an agenda is being pushed here or? |
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Post by spiderz on Jun 20, 2020 8:21:26 GMT
Can y'all see my messages Spiderz has already confirmed that we can, indeed, read your messages, so here's something I'd like to offer as advice: Say as much on your mind as possible. It's much easier to sort through your thoughts when they're spaced across fewer posts as opposed to creating new ones for one-line thoughts or questions. No pressure, you can spend 10 minutes writing something up. We have 48 hours, and that's a lot of time to get things fleshed out. Don't feel urged to have to post something every now and then, just talk to us whenever you have something to say or you want something cleared up. On this note, do you have any reads or feelings towards the game? Does anyone seem like they might be town or scum? If so, who and why? pls ignore the fact that i just posted two replies in separate postsWeird post, looks like you are posting to just post, by giving him basic advice then asking super basic questions that have meaningless answers this early in the game, leaning this as more of a bad townie move then a scum trying to look active rn though. |
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Jun 20, 2020 8:35:13 GMT
After years of studying mafia, it has become clear to me that the optimal strategy in this game is to Lynch ToiletBro2
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Post by AlmostZero on Jun 20, 2020 8:50:11 GMT
Hey guys, hope that you have been having an amazing day. First things first, everyday starting day two, everyone please hypo. The odds aren't high, but either tracker can be killed any night. There is absolutely no downsides to it, and I would rather have everyone hypo. Secondly, tr sky for being first to talk + idt scum outs themselves like that. would like to wait a bit before dropping the old scum bomb. TRing Blurb for trying it make a TR early into game even if his read is completely NAI (although this can be a blurb traitor and skyfig mafia interaction but i kinda doubt) anyways Lynch ToniNup. I fail to see how NAI TR'ing someone is towny. Their reads is akin to a RVS, except instead of voting someone scum it's voting someone town. And if I were to be pessimistic, NAI TR'ing is more of a scummove; just saying "I TR X" does no scumhunting but still gives you towncred? Even if I were to ignore all this, this chain past the second person just becomes increasingly scummy. FoS on Spiderz. I could see why you think there would be no benefit to it, but I think it's more of narrowing down your options for lynches by having some very soft TRs. There's not much to go off yet and putting your thoughts out there helps get the ball rolling (as is sort of happening right now). As I've mentioned in my previous point, the TRs are based on NAI aren't exactly useful because they will change. I don't think it'll positively help us narrow it down. But it most certainly did help us start a good discussion, so there's that. |
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