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Post by micromorphic on Jun 20, 2020 12:51:51 GMT
god I forgot forums games was the place where people tryhard. that shit is probably gonna take like 40 minutes to read, ain’t nobody got time for that. lynch tb2 (bandwagoning) watch this post get over analyzed and I’ll be forced to write a 60 page essay on why I wasted my time doing this. Its deadass 2 pages ik and this thing started like 8 hours ago. I’m scared |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 20, 2020 12:52:19 GMT
(stuff in red is what I wrote because it's easier to address within the quote) @? can you tell me unironicly what you think of this post No, I don't read filler. |
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Post by spiderz on Jun 20, 2020 12:54:21 GMT
Nice catch. I didn't think of it this way. There's a contrary solution where we can choose the towniest player and go from there, but that's another mess of its own, which given the current state of the game, isn't exactly ideal. But eitherway, I believe we should still go forward with the hypo plan. OK I have trouble believing that this is not a fake reaction, because hypos have been around a looong time and that's always been a downside of them. It seems to me like AZ is pushing hypo as a towny strat for a bit of towncred and is now a little peeved that something is getting in the way of that. Unvote spiderz Vote AlmostZero. This gives off major oops i got caught time to shift vibes but like, the fact that hes so straight foward abt it is lowkey townie to me, micro getting on him is questionable as fuck but im not sure if tb2 is scum anymore, they quite possibly could be trash townie either way im gonna wait for scorrs thoughts |
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Post by spiderz on Jun 20, 2020 12:55:28 GMT
ik and this thing started like 8 hours ago. I’m scared just a note for the future, your not allowed to edit your posts |
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Post by spiderz on Jun 20, 2020 12:56:54 GMT
Oh and 2 pages is nothing Id appreciate it if you did something for town micromorphic |
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Post by spiderz on Jun 20, 2020 12:59:29 GMT
@? can you tell me unironicly what you think of this post No, I don't read filler. All you do is cause me pain, stop trolling and make ur 1000th post special |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 20, 2020 13:00:18 GMT
Nice catch. I didn't think of it this way. There's a contrary solution where we can choose the towniest player and go from there, but that's another mess of its own, which given the current state of the game, isn't exactly ideal. But eitherway, I believe we should still go forward with the hypo plan. OK I have trouble believing that this is not a fake reaction, because hypos have been around a looong time and that's always been a downside of them. It seems to me like AZ is pushing hypo as a towny strat for a bit of towncred and is now a little peeved that something is getting in the way of that. Unvote spiderz Vote AlmostZero. I think this is a completely false narrative. Most people tend to overlook the mechanical downsides of hypo simply because it is so miniscule and the benefits of getting inspects out safely are almost always worth it. There is literally no one opposing hypo (at least that has said something about it) so how are you getting the idea that anything is "getting in the way" of an almost NAI suggestion? |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 20, 2020 13:01:15 GMT
All you do is cause me pain, stop trolling and make ur 1000th post special I am not a troll, I am a serious player, and too late. |
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Post by micromorphic on Jun 20, 2020 13:03:29 GMT
Oh and 2 pages is nothing Id appreciate it if you did something for town micromorphic k |
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Post by spiderz on Jun 20, 2020 13:05:38 GMT
OK I have trouble believing that this is not a fake reaction, because hypos have been around a looong time and that's always been a downside of them. It seems to me like AZ is pushing hypo as a towny strat for a bit of towncred and is now a little peeved that something is getting in the way of that. Unvote spiderz Vote AlmostZero. I think this is a completely false narrative. Most people tend to overlook the mechanical downsides of hypo simply because it is so miniscule and the benefits of getting inspects out safely are almost always worth it. There is literally no one opposing hypo (at least that has said something about it) so how are you getting the idea that anything is "getting in the way" of an almost NAI suggestion? This is going back to the him looking way too hard and warping shit to fit his narrative, but I'm just saying their is a possibility of this being town tb2 wanting to look like he knows what hes talking about and spew buzzwords while stretching shit knowing TB2, I like tb2 flip today but I just wanted to give that as a possibility |
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jun 20, 2020 13:08:56 GMT
Talking about how many pages has been said and that you dont want to read it is just the definition of filler. You could classify this as filler as well, but I'm just gonna point it out, read it, and help.
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 20, 2020 13:13:10 GMT
This is going back to the him looking way too hard and warping shit to fit his narrative, but I'm just saying their is a possibility of this being town tb2 wanting to look like he knows what hes talking about and spew buzzwords while stretching shit knowing TB2, I like tb2 flip today but I just wanted to give that as a possibility One of warping shit vs spewing buzzwords is a lot more likely than the other in my opinion. |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 20, 2020 13:14:26 GMT
Saying it's rvs doesn't necessarily defeat the purpose of it because most people aren't even gonna react given one lynch. In the case the wagon were to begin to gain traction such as 2-3 more lynches, it allows for understanding of a potential reaction/ interactions between players on/off of the lynch and reads formatted by those trs/srs they have on the player and those reads made of the players on them specifically. Granted, it's been explained now, however a reaction still will occur in the case of traction. host gonna rage reading this |
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Post by cyan on Jun 20, 2020 13:15:06 GMT
time to see what i can churn out before fish. note that these posts have been trimmed for the sake of clarity, heads up Actually, remove the FoS on Spiderz. I quite like this post. Which begs the question, why do you think it's more of a bad townie than scum? Cyan Talon started to call out on Cayden's inactivity even when more than half of the players have yet to say their opening words. In my eyes, it genuinely seems like Cyan Talon is just trying to look as town as possible without actively trying to scumhunt. Playermeta, check out last summer circuit with me and cyan for more context Game in question: ps-mafia.proboards.com/thread/755/summer-circuit-game-greek-heroes
Regarding this line of thought, it's still Day 1 and at that exact phase there was very little anyone could've done in terms of progressing town discussion. Thank you AlmostZero for giving this game the momentum it needs, but it's common knowledge that games tend to start slow and there's little to comment on early on.
I'm not saying that this is an excuse for anyone to not scumhunt d1, but pushing someone for not having a solid pushing play early in the game is jumping the gun.
how did we get 2 eblurbs in the same game? That is clearly not what I said. I scumlean everyone who townread another person early in the game with the sole reasoning being that the other person also formulated a townread early in the game. Maybe I should have made an ironic post saying "tr everyone making tr early game," so I don't need to spell this out. player A: tr player 1 player B: tr player A, they made tr early game player C: tr player B, they made tr early game Do you see how rworded this is? This chain of bs reads and free towncred had the potential to continue into a shitpost fest. Yeah thats fair, but like literally I TR'd blurb because I can see him being Eager to play the game which I just dont see from Scum blurb, and TR's are usually serious compared to if he said it was an SR. We didn't all have the same line of reasoning + I could never see scum blurb go for an early game pocket. "Fair" is a good way to put it, maybe. Though, reads-out-of-one's-ass shouldn't be a foreign occurrence at the start of any Mafia game. What literally happened was RVS, but through TLs as opposed to SLs.There is nothing scummy about explaining an optimal way to play to a new player, and doing so is NAI, as both scum and town have motives to do so (look like you're helping town vs helping town). SRing based of off this post is pretty baseless as it isn't even too game-related. Slight fos on spiderz. Also, unless AZ-spiderz is a traitor-goon interaction, idt they're a scumteam because, because scum a) wouldn't sr their scumpartner immediately to retract that sr and b) this positive interaction between az and spiderz isn't particularly typical of scum in the early game (although b) is weaker than a) ) It is also worth pointing out that AZ claims cyan calls out cayden's inactivity, which isn't true, as cyan simply said not to be inactive (as newbies often are since they're overwhelmed), which is straw man and also makes me sl AZ since there was already a little bit of momentum on cyan and this is a way to hop on and seem like they're not just sheeping (I.e. fake read). Still, unless it's a traitor-goon interaction, idt AZ and spiderz are a scumteam. How the fuck do you contradict yourself so hard in 1 sentence. You say there is nothing scummy about it and then PROCEED TO SAY THAT IT IS NAI BECAUSE BOTH SCUM AND TOWN HAVE MOTIVES TO DO IT. YES both town and scum have motives to do it, which is why I SAID I read it as bad townie (because town realistically has no reason to do something like that) as opposed to scum. So its not even NAI, because it literally does Indicate his alignment, you can find almost anything to be townie motivate and scum motivated if you look hard enough. To Spidey: When something is indicative of both alignments, it ends up functionally being indicative of neither alignment. If I had town AND scum reasons to do something, it means that said something can't be used as a viable method of guessing my alignment.
I quite like that ToiletBro2 is actively trying to sort out AZ's interactions with Spiderz, as they seem to be taking the spotlight. I must ask, though;
If AZ is scum and Spiderz is not, what would that imply out of AZ's retraction of their original read on Spiderz?god I forgot forums games was the place where people tryhard. that shit is probably gonna take like 40 minutes to read, ain’t nobody got time for that. lynch tb2 (bandwagoning) watch this post get over analyzed and I’ll be forced to write a 60 page essay on why I wasted my time doing this. I don't see how TB2 is bandwagoning here. You'd better start writing.Responses in my signature shade of Turquoise. @tb2 find a better colour for writing responses thanks |
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Post by cyan on Jun 20, 2020 13:18:53 GMT
Talking about how many pages has been said and that you dont want to read it is just the definition of filler. You could classify this as filler as well, but I'm just gonna point it out, read it, and help. seconded, but i'd like to see more of your thoughts on this game than what you've posted so far |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 20, 2020 13:19:39 GMT
Responses in my signature shade of Turquoise. @tb2 find a better colour for writing responses thanks Wait you're onto something. TB2 = Red. Red = Mafia. There is no way he is not softing Traitor. |
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Post by spiderz on Jun 20, 2020 13:21:35 GMT
Saying it's rvs doesn't necessarily defeat the purpose of it because most people aren't even gonna react given one lynch. In the case the wagon were to begin to gain traction such as 2-3 more lynches, it allows for understanding of a potential reaction/ interactions between players on/off of the lynch and reads formatted by those trs/srs they have on the player and those reads made of the players on them specifically. Granted, it's been explained now, however a reaction still will occur in the case of traction. host gonna rage reading this Literally my exact thought |
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Post by spiderz on Jun 20, 2020 13:23:25 GMT
Oh and this is highkey unrelated but ty all for being this active its only day 1 but this is probably gonna be one of the most fun PS Forum game I've played so far
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Post by spiderz on Jun 20, 2020 13:24:20 GMT
Scorr is probably town btw, so is Azi
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Post by micromorphic on Jun 20, 2020 13:31:14 GMT
SKY: Not sure when you're gonna stop talking about spiders/sfl and start giving thoughts on somebody else. Other than that, they don't seem to be doing anything scummy. TR MYSTERY: Can't see if he's said anything. NULL DUDE: Same as mystery. NULL CYAN: You planning on providing reads or just gonna ask questions? His big ass post hurts my eyes with that light blue. The "bandwagoning" thing wasn't TB2 but was ME. NULL VIGVIG: His RVS line isn't scummy but I don't like how nobody has quoted it yet w/e. TR SPIDERZ: He has posted a ton of shit. TR GTS: You planning on playing the game or just gonna stick to telling people how the game works? SR TB2: His shit makes no fucking sense, I'm just gonna assume it's productive. TR CAYDEN: 3 lines of  . Now that we confirmed we have your shit, you can start talking. SCORR: TR AZ: Asking for hypos got me like: SR EBLURB: Meh, I don't know what to make with his early townread. I do wish to see more of him. NULL MICRO: lock town TONI: Hasn't spoken. NULL BATTLER: Hasn't spoken. NULL One thing I think we can do better is forcing people to talk that haven't instead of all collectively hling spiderz with his shit and saying that he's town. unlynch tb2 lynch gts |
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Post by micromorphic on Jun 20, 2020 13:31:27 GMT
go wild
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 20, 2020 13:35:50 GMT
Yeah thats fair, but like literally I TR'd blurb because I can see him being Eager to play the game which I just dont see from Scum blurb, and TR's are usually serious compared to if he said it was an SR. We didn't all have the same line of reasoning + I could never see scum blurb go for an early game pocket. I don't think they were random reads, althought I guess that's not too important. The only time you should be bullshitting reads is as a non-town or to fake a scum read to reaction test. You can't equate it to RVS when it is literally the opposite. RVS is productive because you are fishing for reactions under pressure. Throwing out lazy or disingenious town reads does not achieve anything D1, unless maybe you are trying to pocket someone. |
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Post by micromorphic on Jun 20, 2020 13:39:29 GMT
oh, and I will be the one to say. CATS ARE SUPERIORROROROROROROOROROO
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Jun 20, 2020 13:43:36 GMT
I've been thinking about the benefits of a hypo, and I really don't see them As a tracker, there are 3 visits you could spot each night 1 of the 3 goons killing bodyguard other tracker so if we hypo no visits, theres a good chance that when the tracker outs themselves with a visit, they just show the mafia who the other PRs are, and if they hold off and say no target, that completely defeats the point of a hypo. Having no target doesnt even clear anything due to 3 of the 4 scum not targetting each night. It could work later, when theres less scum+less PRs, but as of right now I don't see it diong much apart from killing our PR's I believe it was AlmostZero who suggested it so im ping u In other news, Micro has brought nothing but negative energy and a read list that mostly consists of 'Has posted: TR, hasnt posted: Null Unlynch Tb2, Lynch Micromorphic |
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Post by micromorphic on Jun 20, 2020 13:50:27 GMT
I've been thinking about the benefits of a hypo, and I really don't see them As a tracker, there are 3 visits you could spot each night 1 of the 3 goons killing bodyguard other tracker so if we hypo no visits, theres a good chance that when the tracker outs themselves with a visit, they just show the mafia who the other PRs are, and if they hold off and say no target, that completely defeats the point of a hypo. Having no target doesnt even clear anything due to 3 of the 4 scum not targetting each night. It could work later, when theres less scum+less PRs, but as of right now I don't see it diong much apart from killing our PR's I believe it was AlmostZero who suggested it so im ping u In other news, Micro has brought nothing but negative energy and a read list that mostly consists of 'Has posted: TR, hasnt posted: Null Unlynch Tb2, Lynch Micromorphic by “mostly”, do you mean only the 4 people who haven’t spoken? cannot tell if you just stopped at the 3rd one or just read if I tred, sred or had them as null. |
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