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Post by micromorphic on Jun 20, 2020 13:51:15 GMT
I've been thinking about the benefits of a hypo, and I really don't see them As a tracker, there are 3 visits you could spot each night 1 of the 3 goons killing bodyguard other tracker so if we hypo no visits, theres a good chance that when the tracker outs themselves with a visit, they just show the mafia who the other PRs are, and if they hold off and say no target, that completely defeats the point of a hypo. Having no target doesnt even clear anything due to 3 of the 4 scum not targetting each night. It could work later, when theres less scum+less PRs, but as of right now I don't see it diong much apart from killing our PR's I believe it was AlmostZero who suggested it so im ping u In other news, Micro has brought nothing but negative energy and a read list that mostly consists of 'Has posted: TR, hasnt posted: Null Unlynch Tb2, Lynch Micromorphic by “mostly”, do you mean only the 4 people who haven’t spoken? cannot tell if you just stopped at the 3rd one or just read if I tred, sred or had them as null.
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Post by spiderz on Jun 20, 2020 13:51:17 GMT
SKY: Not sure when you're gonna stop talking about spiders/sfl and start giving thoughts on somebody else. Other than that, they don't seem to be doing anything scummy. TR MYSTERY: Can't see if he's said anything. NULL DUDE: Same as mystery. NULL CYAN: You planning on providing reads or just gonna ask questions? His big ass post hurts my eyes with that light blue. The "bandwagoning" thing wasn't TB2 but was ME. NULL VIGVIG: His RVS line isn't scummy but I don't like how nobody has quoted it yet w/e. TR SPIDERZ: He has posted a ton of shit. TR GTS: You planning on playing the game or just gonna stick to telling people how the game works? SR TB2: His shit makes no fucking sense, I'm just gonna assume it's productive. TR CAYDEN: 3 lines of . Now that we confirmed we have your shit, you can start talking. SCORR: TR AZ: Asking for hypos got me like: SR EBLURB: Meh, I don't know what to make with his early townread. I do wish to see more of him. NULL MICRO: lock town TONI: Hasn't spoken. NULL BATTLER: Hasn't spoken. NULL One thing I think we can do better is forcing people to talk that haven't instead of all collectively hling spiderz with his shit and saying that he's town. unlynch tb2 lynch gtsTheirs so many things wrong with this read list, first off why do you say that someone is doing something scummy and then TR them like with sky and vig adn tb2, vigs i dont even get at all. also you NULL cyan too and that was p weird considering you had an sr on gts. also AZ's sr makes no sense hows that scummy at all. our throwing out BS trs like you are afraid to TR, and i dont like how the ONLY one you dont explain is scorr, like you are intimidating by him so you have to tr him even if you dont have an actual reasoning. this is how most of your reads are coming off, pockety. also talking a lot is NAI you were literally in the MU qualifier where i posted like crazy and was scum. this reads to me like you are afraid to drop SR's so you are pocketing everyone you think has sway. your most valid read here is GTS.
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Post by micromorphic on Jun 20, 2020 13:51:33 GMT
posted it twice somehow
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Post by cyan on Jun 20, 2020 13:53:33 GMT
Nice catch. I didn't think of it this way. There's a contrary solution where we can choose the towniest player and go from there, but that's another mess of its own, which given the current state of the game, isn't exactly ideal. But eitherway, I believe we should still go forward with the hypo plan. OK I have trouble believing that this is not a fake reaction, because hypos have been around a looong time and that's always been a downside of them. It seems to me like AZ is pushing hypo as a towny strat for a bit of towncred and is now a little peeved that something is getting in the way of that. Unvote spiderz Vote AlmostZero. I don't see how you're seeing it this way. AZ pushing for hypos is NAI. Let's continue this discussion; why would scum!AZ be peeved at not having the hypo strat work out? Town hypoing has little benefits to scum, and if you think that AZ is trying to gain towncred by pushing for hypo, in what situation would said towncred be useful especially since setup discussions tend to not offer much of it in the first place?
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 20, 2020 13:56:36 GMT
D1 readlist kekw VIGVIG: His RVS line isn't scummy but I don't like how nobody has quoted it yet w/e. TR You are fake news. ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/67088/threadTB2: His shit makes no fucking sense, I'm just gonna assume it's productive. TR You know what they say about assuming?SCORR: TR How do you have more to say about afk players than me?AZ: Asking for hypos got me like: SR ???One thing I think we can do better is forcing people to talk that haven't instead of all collectively hling spiderz with his shit and saying that he's town. unlynch tb2 lynch gtsVery mixed bag of reads. If TB2 flips Goon instead of Traitor, this is a possible partner. You can't force someone who hasn't logged onto forums to talk. That is part of host's job. How do "we" do better? btw spiderz ur town
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Post by micromorphic on Jun 20, 2020 13:57:44 GMT
SKY: Not sure when you're gonna stop talking about spiders/sfl and start giving thoughts on somebody else. Other than that, they don't seem to be doing anything scummy. TR MYSTERY: Can't see if he's said anything. NULL DUDE: Same as mystery. NULL CYAN: You planning on providing reads or just gonna ask questions? His big ass post hurts my eyes with that light blue. The "bandwagoning" thing wasn't TB2 but was ME. NULL VIGVIG: His RVS line isn't scummy but I don't like how nobody has quoted it yet w/e. TR SPIDERZ: He has posted a ton of shit. TR GTS: You planning on playing the game or just gonna stick to telling people how the game works? SR TB2: His shit makes no fucking sense, I'm just gonna assume it's productive. TR CAYDEN: 3 lines of . Now that we confirmed we have your shit, you can start talking. SCORR: TR AZ: Asking for hypos got me like: SR EBLURB: Meh, I don't know what to make with his early townread. I do wish to see more of him. NULL MICRO: lock town TONI: Hasn't spoken. NULL BATTLER: Hasn't spoken. NULL One thing I think we can do better is forcing people to talk that haven't instead of all collectively hling spiderz with his shit and saying that he's town. unlynch tb2 lynch gtsTheirs so many things wrong with this read list, first off why do you say that someone is doing something scummy and then TR them like with sky and vig adn tb2, vigs i dont even get at all. also you NULL cyan too and that was p weird considering you had an sr on gts. also AZ's sr makes no sense hows that scummy at all. our throwing out BS trs like you are afraid to TR, and i dont like how the ONLY one you dont explain is scorr, like you are intimidating by him so you have to tr him even if you dont have an actual reasoning. this is how most of your reads are coming off, pockety. also talking a lot is NAI you were literally in the MU qualifier where i posted like crazy and was scum. this reads to me like you are afraid to drop SR's so you are pocketing everyone you think has sway. your most valid read here is GTS. ay somebody else who didn’t read what I said. cyan and GTS aren’t doing the same thing, GTS is telling people how to play and Cyan is just asking questions. my thoughts on tb2 wasn’t scummy, i just have no fucking clue what he’s saying, which isn’t scummy. what sky did also isn’t scummy, I just mentioned how he’s limiting his thoughts that I think are town to two ppl. same thing goes with vigvig, he’s said something that is townie and I mentioned how nobody has given their thoughts on it. AZ sr is because tracker =/= cop and it’s so much easier to find a tracker from a hypo than it is with a cop. I am not afraid to drop srs, I just don’t have too many at the moment and I need more people to speak.
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Post by micromorphic on Jun 20, 2020 14:01:10 GMT
D1 readlist kekw VIGVIG: His RVS line isn't scummy but I don't like how nobody has quoted it yet w/e. TR You are fake news. ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/67088/threadTB2: His shit makes no fucking sense, I'm just gonna assume it's productive. TR You know what they say about assuming?SCORR: TR How do you have more to say about afk players than me?AZ: Asking for hypos got me like: SR One thing I think we can do better is forcing people to talk that haven't instead of all collectively hling spiderz with his shit and saying that he's town. unlynch tb2 lynch gtsVery mixed bag of reads. If TB2 flips Goon instead of Traitor, this is a possible partner. You can't force someone who hasn't logged onto forums to talk. That is part of host's job. How do "we" do better? btw spiderz ur town vigvig point is oop. “You know what they say about assuming?” what the fuck does that even mean. “How do you have more to say about afk players than me?” I just townread you from looking at your messages. Ig pmeta? With afk players, legit just said “haven’t spoken”. It is easy to force people to talk when you can just ping them in the summer circuit discord server, which I plan to do shortly.
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Jun 20, 2020 14:02:15 GMT
VIGVIG: His RVS line isn't scummy but I don't like how nobody has quoted it yet w/e. TR this qualifies a townread because my one throwaway line was not quoted, and you think it is odd nobody has quoted my throwaway line? TB2: His shit makes no fucking sense, I'm just gonna assume it's productive. TR ? I cant make sense of what hes saying, and so rather than get an explanation, i am going to assume he is town AZ: Asking for hypos got me like: SR He wants to do hypos, so instead of explaining why hypos arent effective, im going to scumread him for it SPIDERZ: He has posted a ton of shit. TR TALK IS GOOD TOWN that entire reads post was bullshit you made on the spot so that people would leave u alone for a bit
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 20, 2020 14:02:48 GMT
I've been thinking about the benefits of a hypo, and I really don't see them As a tracker, there are 3 visits you could spot each night 1 of the 3 goons killing bodyguard other tracker so if we hypo no visits, theres a good chance that when the tracker outs themselves with a visit, they just show the mafia who the other PRs are, and if they hold off and say no target, that completely defeats the point of a hypo. Having no target doesnt even clear anything due to 3 of the 4 scum not targetting each night. It could work later, when theres less scum+less PRs, but as of right now I don't see it diong much apart from killing our PR's If both trackers were braindead, you would be correct. You are forgetting that Town can and in some cases should lie.
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 20, 2020 14:04:53 GMT
“You know what they say about assuming?” what the fuck does that even mean. makes an ASS out of U and ME
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Post by micromorphic on Jun 20, 2020 14:05:22 GMT
VIGVIG: His RVS line isn't scummy but I don't like how nobody has quoted it yet w/e. TR this qualifies a townread because my one throwaway line was not quoted, and you think it is odd nobody has quoted my throwaway line? TB2: His shit makes no fucking sense, I'm just gonna assume it's productive. TR ? I cant make sense of what hes saying, and so rather than get an explanation, i am going to assume he is town AZ: Asking for hypos got me like: SR He wants to do hypos, so instead of explaining why hypos arent effective, im going to scumread him for it SPIDERZ: He has posted a ton of shit. TR TALK IS GOOD TOWN that entire reads post was bullshit you made on the spot so that people would leave u alone for a bit no? I made that post because I was asked to be productive. I legit said further up the page, “ping me if you want me to do something” so obviously I’m open to do shit, not “so that people would leave u alone for a bit”. I was already left alone for 8 hours and I don’t plan to do that for the rest of this game.
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jun 20, 2020 14:10:42 GMT
Micro switch me from an sr to a tr, I was simply explaining as to how things are going. Not gonna shift my lynch as for now because honestly no lynch is good atm
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Post by cyan on Jun 20, 2020 14:19:16 GMT
Reading a little further into the game, I can see hypoing being less useful in a tracker setup now. I don't think it's an instant justification to read AZ as scum yet, but it's worth pointing out that hypoing is probably going to be counterproductive. I can understand those of you who do, though. Oh and this is highkey unrelated but ty all for being this active its only day 1 but this is probably gonna be one of the most fun PS Forum game I've played so far lovin it too tbh
VIGVIG: His RVS line isn't scummy but I don't like how nobody has quoted it yet w/e. TR this qualifies a townread because my one throwaway line was not quoted, and you think it is odd nobody has quoted my throwaway line? TB2: His shit makes no fucking sense, I'm just gonna assume it's productive. TR ? I cant make sense of what hes saying, and so rather than get an explanation, i am going to assume he is town AZ: Asking for hypos got me like: SR He wants to do hypos, so instead of explaining why hypos arent effective, im going to scumread him for it SPIDERZ: He has posted a ton of shit. TR TALK IS GOOD TOWN that entire reads post was bullshit you made on the spot so that people would leave u alone for a bit no? I made that post because I was asked to be productive. I legit said further up the page, “ping me if you want me to do something” so obviously I’m open to do shit, not “so that people would leave u alone for a bit”. I was already left alone for 8 hours and I don’t plan to do that for the rest of this game. Reading people as town for speaking a lot isn't productive, to be honest. Your reads are coming across as lazy, especially with the following line: Try not to sound like this is supposed to be a hurdle, or assume alignments because of their posts not making sense. Why did you push for a townread immediately, instead of asking for a TL;DR? Also, tell us what you think of the interactions between players. Does something come to mind reading TB2 vs Spiderz, for example? For the rest of y'all, I'm gonna say it. I don't know what to think of the interactions of the above two slots, so if you might spare some of your time and help explain it to me and everyone else in the thread that would be greatly appreciated
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Post by cyan on Jun 20, 2020 14:21:13 GMT
Micro switch me from an sr to a tr, I was simply explaining as to how things are going. Not gonna shift my lynch as for now because honestly no lynch is good atm At this point I'm just going to pursue this slot for not having anything remotely resembling a thought process. Do you not have anything to say about the last two pages? Unlynch VigVigLynch GTS
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Post by ToiletBro2 on Jun 20, 2020 14:23:34 GMT
micromorphic I want you to not wagon on me without even reading the game
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Post by ToiletBro2 on Jun 20, 2020 14:24:21 GMT
Oh there were a bunch of messages that hadn't loaded I'ma read that now
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Post by cyan on Jun 20, 2020 14:24:39 GMT
I've been thinking about the benefits of a hypo, and I really don't see them As a tracker, there are 3 visits you could spot each night 1 of the 3 goons killing bodyguard other tracker so if we hypo no visits, theres a good chance that when the tracker outs themselves with a visit, they just show the mafia who the other PRs are, and if they hold off and say no target, that completely defeats the point of a hypo. Having no target doesnt even clear anything due to 3 of the 4 scum not targetting each night. It could work later, when theres less scum+less PRs, but as of right now I don't see it diong much apart from killing our PR's If both trackers were braindead, you would be correct. You are forgetting that Town can and in some cases should lie. The problem with this is that it's entirely possible for two hypo lines to contradict one another without coordination. Of course, we'd all be reading the thread at different times so catching up with previous hypos shouldn't be a problem. Something to keep in mind.
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Post by battler444 on Jun 20, 2020 14:30:37 GMT
Hello, I woke and I’ve read through everything, not sure where to start because there was a LOT of stuff going on. I am also not so sure how everything works yet so bear with me Quick thoughts: I TR micro, his reads list does not seem like something a scum would do, but his reads are kind of iffy (e.g. his SR on AZ for asking for hypos, honestly think he needed to put an SR somewhere and randomly chose him). I would like to Lynch Gary The Savage because of his statement asking to be put as a TR on the list and get the ball rolling.
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Jun 20, 2020 14:32:05 GMT
I've been thinking about the benefits of a hypo, and I really don't see them As a tracker, there are 3 visits you could spot each night 1 of the 3 goons killing bodyguard other tracker so if we hypo no visits, theres a good chance that when the tracker outs themselves with a visit, they just show the mafia who the other PRs are, and if they hold off and say no target, that completely defeats the point of a hypo. Having no target doesnt even clear anything due to 3 of the 4 scum not targetting each night. It could work later, when theres less scum+less PRs, but as of right now I don't see it diong much apart from killing our PR's If both trackers were braindead, you would be correct. You are forgetting that Town can and in some cases should lie. What does the Hypo accomplish if Trackers are forced the lie about their results?
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Post by spiderz on Jun 20, 2020 14:34:27 GMT
Theirs so many things wrong with this read list, first off why do you say that someone is doing something scummy and then TR them like with sky and vig adn tb2, vigs i dont even get at all. also you NULL cyan too and that was p weird considering you had an sr on gts. also AZ's sr makes no sense hows that scummy at all. our throwing out BS trs like you are afraid to TR, and i dont like how the ONLY one you dont explain is scorr, like you are intimidating by him so you have to tr him even if you dont have an actual reasoning. this is how most of your reads are coming off, pockety. also talking a lot is NAI you were literally in the MU qualifier where i posted like crazy and was scum. this reads to me like you are afraid to drop SR's so you are pocketing everyone you think has sway. your most valid read here is GTS. ay somebody else who didn’t read what I said. cyan and GTS aren’t doing the same thing, GTS is telling people how to play and Cyan is just asking questions. my thoughts on tb2 wasn’t scummy, i just have no fucking clue what he’s saying, which isn’t scummy. what sky did also isn’t scummy, I just mentioned how he’s limiting his thoughts that I think are town to two ppl. same thing goes with vigvig, he’s said something that is townie and I mentioned how nobody has given their thoughts on it. AZ sr is because tracker =/= cop and it’s so much easier to find a tracker from a hypo than it is with a cop. I am not afraid to drop srs, I just don’t have too many at the moment and I need more people to speak. I don't know if its worth continuing this, the tb2 and az reads are defo the worst though for sure, im scum leaning this slot
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Post by battler444 on Jun 20, 2020 14:34:35 GMT
Reason for that lynch being I think everyone else has been fairly active and stating their thoughts and stuff (and so I slightly TR) while GTS has just been kinda there fillering. The rest of the people who aren’t talking I assume are asleep (like I was) and I don’t want to read them just yet because lurking really does not tell us anything about the alignment of the person.
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Jun 20, 2020 14:35:00 GMT
VIGVIG: His RVS line isn't scummy but I don't like how nobody has quoted it yet w/e. TR this qualifies a townread because my one throwaway line was not quoted, and you think it is odd nobody has quoted my throwaway line? TB2: His shit makes no fucking sense, I'm just gonna assume it's productive. TR ? I cant make sense of what hes saying, and so rather than get an explanation, i am going to assume he is town AZ: Asking for hypos got me like: SR He wants to do hypos, so instead of explaining why hypos arent effective, im going to scumread him for it SPIDERZ: He has posted a ton of shit. TR TALK IS GOOD TOWN that entire reads post was bullshit you made on the spot so that people would leave u alone for a bit no? I made that post because I was asked to be productive. I legit said further up the page, “ping me if you want me to do something” so obviously I’m open to do shit, not “so that people would leave u alone for a bit”. I was already left alone for 8 hours and I don’t plan to do that for the rest of this game. Your attitude to this game sucks. 'Ping me if I want to do something' doesn't show that you have an urge to find scum and help town, it shows u want to do the bare minimum to avoid dying. You should be doing things regardless of pings. There was nothing false about my post so I don't know what you're saying No to. Your reads were lazy, unthought, and the bare minimum in order for you to think you wouldnt be lynched for doing literally nothing.
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Post by battler444 on Jun 20, 2020 14:35:51 GMT
(Although I do know that being active =/= town, he was the best option I had)
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Post by spiderz on Jun 20, 2020 14:39:19 GMT
no? I made that post because I was asked to be productive. I legit said further up the page, “ping me if you want me to do something” so obviously I’m open to do shit, not “so that people would leave u alone for a bit”. I was already left alone for 8 hours and I don’t plan to do that for the rest of this game. Your attitude to this game sucks. 'Ping me if I want to do something' doesn't show that you have an urge to find scum and help town, it shows u want to do the bare minimum to avoid dying. You should be doing things regardless of pings. There was nothing false about my post so I don't know what you're saying No to. Your reads were lazy, unthought, and the bare minimum in order for you to think you wouldnt be lynched for doing literally nothing. I don't necessarily agree with this because i don't think hes doing literally nothing. But hes most definitely lazy and has bullshit reads that came about from being pressured their way too forced this early in the game
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Post by spiderz on Jun 20, 2020 14:42:09 GMT
Hello, I woke and I’ve read through everything, not sure where to start because there was a LOT of stuff going on. I am also not so sure how everything works yet so bear with me Quick thoughts: I TR micro, his reads list does not seem like something a scum would do, but his reads are kind of iffy (e.g. his SR on AZ for asking for hypos, honestly think he needed to put an SR somewhere and randomly chose him). I would like to Lynch Gary The Savage because of his statement asking to be put as a TR on the list and get the ball rolling. What do you think about the cases made against micro so far, and ftr the ball is most definitely rolling lmao.
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