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Post by quojova on Aug 14, 2020 5:50:13 GMT
In response to quo: out of curiosity does a specific flip from gary make me not town all of a sudden? lmao Anyways, here's something that's hopefully interesting:
I think i've given more than sufficient reasoning as to why he's my biggest scumread right now, so I didn't bother to repeat it when I did my vote. Gary's wagon didn't grow out of nowhere. He'd been scummy all game and people have been scumreading him for it all day. His wagon grew out of MY decision to lynch a scumread instead of making a policy lynch. I take full responsibility for making that decision: vigvig was parked on it and he said he was going to bed, so I saw an opportunity to put my vote where my mouth was. To clarify, I'd been complaining about the fact that the game has been nothing but talk about afks, which is completely NAI. Any and every alignment can say "you're lurking / doing nothing i want to policy you." I decided that making a policy lynch only accentuates that problem because the entire wagon becomes NAI. I wanted the game to progress, and I still believe lynching a scumslot instead of a policy is the best way to do that. Town can afford to policy Cayden on day 5, because every surviving townie wins with goo. (at least that's my understanding of it, do correct me if i'm wrong) We'd be better off trying to find mafia or sk before then.
----- I like most of your reads (obviously i disagree with the gary read) the quo take is interesting. I can maybe get behind that let's see
love the kliff read (tho what does prodging mean?)
I can definitely see vig in tomorrow's lynchpool
OH right i forgot there was a vig and i don't think cult rod is confdead by any means. We've only had 1 scum flip, which could be any of the non-survivor scums. But I do think pgo has to have gone off for FOUR kills, but it could be only one proc instead of a swarm.
I'm liking the subs' activity so far, but as the bomb moss flip taught me, effort != town so i'll analyze more in depth later. for now 1) i'm wary about the cayden lynch i feel like it's drawing way too many assumptions about what happened last night 2) where is padgett's vigvig push can we at least discuss why that's a better/worse lynch than cayden? 3) this is an interesting question that I do want to see the answer to ok goodnight yalls i've been up way too late too many nights in a row lmao does the iso for fort work for you? if so pls give iso link 1st post seems very weak in terms of disproving the connection (on the level of the fort calling out fjp for inactivity post), idk why the 2nd post is in there, 3rd post is something, will respond to it fully tomorrow after I wake up and my thoughts are clearer ACTUAL ACTUAL SLEEP TIME IF I DONT SEE NEW POSTS WHEN I REFRESH |
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Post by Veteran Padgett on Aug 14, 2020 5:51:12 GMT
the micro vigvig reread seems ever more important sigh Idk if you realized yet, but I don't think anyone is scum with vigvig except you. In micro's case check micro's vote on vigvig day 3. Should say no one is scum with vigvig except you. |
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Post by Veteran Padgett on Aug 14, 2020 5:51:52 GMT
idk how to even iso on this forum
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Post by Veteran Padgett on Aug 14, 2020 6:13:14 GMT
wait quo when do you and fort point out that the cultrod only wins with itself is it possible to bring up the line? also some more stuff only the cultrod wins when n5 comes and they lightningrod specifically so that town dont play against their wincon rb cant block pgo so there this was the first mention of the cultrod winning alone i could find, unless i missed when quo and fort mentioned it at first If you think fjp isn't mafia then this is another good reason to believe fjp isn't goo. |
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Post by fairyjigglypuff on Aug 14, 2020 6:15:10 GMT
yall misunderstand
im saying abdel is never the elim if we can prove that micro and vigvig were scum together
and not declaring that abdel is never the elim period
also vet, in what world am i scum with vigvig
i show up for the first time in 4 irl days or whatever just to plurshift on them like what
besides, i was gonna backread mainly to see associations between those two ppl to see if they were a scumpair, not to connect them with living players
like
my associations in this game have literally only been with people who happened to be online at that time
how is that alignment indicative in any universe
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Post by fairyjigglypuff on Aug 14, 2020 6:19:04 GMT
either way nows probably a good time to hardclaim
as a spider starts crawling on my legs wtf
ok spider has been removed from the house (i dont kill spiders)
i hardclaim os vig i literally softed my vigkill on kliff
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Post by skyfigueroa on Aug 14, 2020 6:34:14 GMT
idt i said i found fjp as not mafia and they were in my mafia pool but i did remove them from my goo pool. was it eblurb who shot or fjp
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Post by fairyjigglypuff on Aug 14, 2020 6:38:31 GMT
idt i said i found fjp as not mafia and they were in my mafia pool but i did remove them from my goo pool. was it eblurb who shot or fjp me |
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Post by Veteran Padgett on Aug 14, 2020 7:00:13 GMT
yall misunderstand im saying abdel is never the elim if we can prove that micro and vigvig were scum together and not declaring that abdel is never the elim period also vet, in what world am i scum with vigvig i show up for the first time in 4 irl days or whatever just to plurshift on them like what besides, i was gonna backread mainly to see associations between those two ppl to see if they were a scumpair, not to connect them with living players like my associations in this game have literally only been with people who happened to be online at that time how is that alignment indicative in any universe You voted 4th on a wagon of 5 that was going to happen anyways. Ask in what world are any of the people that voted before you scum with vigvig and you should see how narrow the options are. i hardclaim os vig i literally softed my vigkill on kliff Claiming the target doesn't prove anything cause anyone could guess kliff died to vigilante. Claiming vigilante at least carries a risk as scum of the vigilante still being alive except everyone has pretty much claimed already minus abdel. You also started a popcorn claim instead of just claiming vigilante then.
Before vigilante claim I would have said that in a scenario where the remaining two scum are both mafia then it is abdel/fjp. Xinc stepping in for cayden doesn't seem like a mafia move unless cayden is his teammate. Cayden is claimed doc. Quo doesn't seem like a team with fort or fjp (for fjp see quo's day 2 push for blurb).
I don't think the claim has changed my mind, but I'll give it a second look tomorrow. The main thing that would convince me right now is a realistic mafia team that doesn't include fjp. |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Aug 14, 2020 8:30:03 GMT
Votecount Update 5.1
Roughly 19 hours remain. If the deadline were to hit, abdel would be voted out.
Message me if there's an issue with the votes.
Countdown Clock
Votecount sheet
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Post by abdel on Aug 14, 2020 9:43:43 GMT
omg hi
gonna read back
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xinc
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Post by xinc on Aug 14, 2020 12:37:50 GMT
Sorry for being quiet. Yesterday workday was really tough.
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Post by quojova on Aug 14, 2020 13:40:48 GMT
slightly undecided on how the vig claim changes my thoughts on the fjp slot atm I agree with vet that it doesn't really change where I read the scumchance on the slot though given that fjp is a bit backed against the wall here/we have been believing pr claims all game/fjp appears to have the experience to fake a pr/he waited until everyone claimed except abdel/if this post below is what he means when says "soft" it is a very weak soft ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/69734 |
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Post by quojova on Aug 14, 2020 13:59:29 GMT
In response to quo: out of curiosity does a specific flip from gary make me not town all of a sudden? lmao Anyways, here's something that's hopefully interesting:
I think i've given more than sufficient reasoning as to why he's my biggest scumread right now, so I didn't bother to repeat it when I did my vote. Gary's wagon didn't grow out of nowhere. He'd been scummy all game and people have been scumreading him for it all day. His wagon grew out of MY decision to lynch a scumread instead of making a policy lynch. I take full responsibility for making that decision: vigvig was parked on it and he said he was going to bed, so I saw an opportunity to put my vote where my mouth was. To clarify, I'd been complaining about the fact that the game has been nothing but talk about afks, which is completely NAI. Any and every alignment can say "you're lurking / doing nothing i want to policy you." I decided that making a policy lynch only accentuates that problem because the entire wagon becomes NAI. I wanted the game to progress, and I still believe lynching a scumslot instead of a policy is the best way to do that. Town can afford to policy Cayden on day 5, because every surviving townie wins with goo. (at least that's my understanding of it, do correct me if i'm wrong) We'd be better off trying to find mafia or sk before then.
----- I like most of your reads (obviously i disagree with the gary read) the quo take is interesting. I can maybe get behind that let's see
love the kliff read (tho what does prodging mean?)
I can definitely see vig in tomorrow's lynchpool
OH right i forgot there was a vig and i don't think cult rod is confdead by any means. We've only had 1 scum flip, which could be any of the non-survivor scums. But I do think pgo has to have gone off for FOUR kills, but it could be only one proc instead of a swarm.
I'm liking the subs' activity so far, but as the bomb moss flip taught me, effort != town so i'll analyze more in depth later. for now 1) i'm wary about the cayden lynch i feel like it's drawing way too many assumptions about what happened last night 2) where is padgett's vigvig push can we at least discuss why that's a better/worse lynch than cayden? 3) this is an interesting question that I do want to see the answer to ok goodnight yalls i've been up way too late too many nights in a row lmao re: this thing I think there is a bit of confusion about quote 2, fort is talking about the vigilante role there and not about vigvig I also still think that "I can definitely see vig in tomorrow's lynchpool" is so minor that it could very easily just be distancing "where is padgett's vigvig push can we at least discuss why that's a better/worse lynch than cayden" is something, but I would think that after 2000+ posts fort would be somewhat competent at distancing convincingly. He goes on to dismiss the vigvig wagon as "iirc the problem with vigvig is just that his only reads were on gary. sounds slightly familiar to the micro reasoning actually lol" and not really provide anything to support the wagon. In the end when vigvig was close to death, fort switched to micro, according to him for the (I would say) fairly weak reason that he didn't like 2/3 people on the wagon, being cayden and micro. These posts are not nearly enough to disprove a fort/vigvig scumteam imo, especially when the player we are talking about is a player with as much as experience as fort has. |
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Post by Veteran Padgett on Aug 14, 2020 19:42:57 GMT
Ok, so if vigvig was mafia then abdel has a good chance of being his partner in addition to fjp. If not then fjp and abdel still seem the most likely as mafia.
This doesn't really change my thoughts on today so...
Vote abdel
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Post by skyfigueroa on Aug 14, 2020 19:54:57 GMT
Ok, so if vigvig was mafia then abdel has a good chance of being his partner in addition to fjp. If not then fjp and abdel still seem the most likely as mafia. This doesn't really change my thoughts on today so... Vote abdeldo you think cultrod's dead already? |
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Post by quojova on Aug 14, 2020 20:28:41 GMT
my preferred lynch progression here remains as abdel -> fjp
in the world where abdel flips town the scumteam is something unlikely like vet goo/fjp maf or cayden/micro scumteam or fjp/xinc maf
I can't bet on any of those except maybe fjp, because I read vet as only town/goo, I read cayden as only town/maf with micro, and I read xinc as only town/maf
In some worlds goo vet just wins here, and if he does props to him, because I can't vote vet here when it seems like a really low win% play
I read fjp as possibly town or goo or maf, and my 2nd highest sr after abdel and likely partners with abdel, so that's why I want to go there after abdel.
I would be willing to debate abdel -> fjp vs. fjp -> abdel though, that seems like a reasonable point of discussion to leave open right now
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Post by cayden on Aug 14, 2020 21:59:54 GMT
Wassup I'm back sorry for being gone for a long time has some stuff to fo
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Post by cayden on Aug 14, 2020 22:00:43 GMT
Lol it's pretty wack how I didnt die
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Post by quojova on Aug 14, 2020 22:01:09 GMT
Wassup I'm back sorry for being gone for a long time has some stuff to fo omg i get to witness cayden prodging live!!! |
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Post by cayden on Aug 14, 2020 22:01:14 GMT
Either scum didnt belive claim or they just idek
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Post by quojova on Aug 14, 2020 22:04:30 GMT
Either scum didnt belive claim or they just idek insightful. |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Aug 14, 2020 22:38:50 GMT
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Post by cayden on Aug 14, 2020 22:51:07 GMT
I gotta go sleep soo
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Post by quojova on Aug 14, 2020 23:10:05 GMT
cayden assuming we kill a scum today and goo doesn't instawin, please doc out of me/xinc/padgett. just make yourself unpredictable as you can there or if you want doc whoever you think has the highest chance of being the nk out of those 3 I hope we won't have to wait a whole day to see if goo won but we probably will
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