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Post by xinc on Aug 2, 2020 16:48:02 GMT
Don't mind me, just reading up on the prior conversation to catch up. \o/
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Post by Gary The Savage on Aug 2, 2020 17:08:59 GMT
PTSD what reactions and Xan I explained why I tr'd Vet in the same sentence that I said I tr'd them and that it had absolutely nothing to the fact that they said they townread me because frankly, they didn't even say that. Vet never said they tr'd me I just said I tr'd them.
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Post by litteleven on Aug 2, 2020 18:37:27 GMT
I don't particularly sr anyone from what I can read yet (with a couple of TRs), though I'll probably have reason to one I get a better picture when I wake up
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Post by litteleven on Aug 2, 2020 18:38:16 GMT
for now I'll use my lynch on a lurk slot, though i definitely won't stay here near deadline
lynch zestoflife
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Post by Schrodinger on Aug 2, 2020 18:45:39 GMT
catch up wallpost time it was going to be a wallpost at first,but im doing a readlist instead because god this game is empty and fillery as fuck are ppl just trying to make the 5 post threshold and some posts I selected did not show up lmao because apparantly refreshing the page removes them. You wanna tell us who these scum are Sure. I am not a fan of vigvig lynching me and not reacting to my omgus, nor paying any attention to this game. I am not a fan of Gary The Savage just defending himself while not making any scumreads. Yes, you made a mistake and didn’t read the rolelist. Nobody fucking cares stop defending yourself and play the game! Anyone else who isn’t participating in the game so far is also scum because it’s been nearly s full day since the game has started and all they’ve done is rvsed. imo first good post of the game. this really translates well to what I think and every read seems genuine/shared by me so this slot is a townlean. the "nobody cares get some reads nub" thing was godly and I agree. im trying to get to 5 posts out here, will be more active in later days. i just do not see gary the savage as town here, but i would also like to note that ptsd is not playing like his usual self is this annoyed tone here because you rolled scum again? and like tb2 has iterated multiple times think 'why would scum do this' with 'why would town do this', have you just been ignoring the game? why are people on quojova ppl parked and have now disappeared ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Bomb Moss:I like their presence rn, but the wallpost felt good on surface but was just bland just like the rest of the game excpet for some PTSD points.null(+) ayia:zero efforting right now, but yeah fsr this slot feels out of place. he has not had enough for me to form a strong read on him yet, and yea the PTSD points were garbo and so were his retaliations. null(-) quojova:looking at the dogs game, this is not the same quojova lmao his tone is yucky, his points are weak and overall he feels much more fillery. scumlean spiderz:he has one post and that was 'why did quojova talk about the surv claim at all' lmao he hasn't made a single post to back up why talking about surv is scummy he just hopped on, reminiscent of how he played in the oc game. scumlean zol talk eblurb talk micromorphic : townlean for coming off as genuine to me/sharing my thought process tb2:has again become neg town from scum, I had a point about this but I forgot Cayden:goat, would love if you blessed us with good posts chad:surv gary:looking at the tourist thing, I have finally made sense for his actions and he's now in the tb2 bad town territory. though I would be happy if you make some actual scumreading posts instead of wanting ppl to Unlynch your lamist slot kliff:tbh I have 0 idea about this slot, hard null but yea it feels too passive. null(-) litt: I like his posts, straight to the point and he makes good points. why are you still on quo btw? null(+) PTSD:stop tunneling ayia. and you are smart enough to know that this is salt for last.cs not a genuine read you have made this game. I would like some hot takes instead of the back and forth around the 6 points. rn I'm kinda confused about this slot because it feels like this is also bad town but I don't feel like town!PTSD would be so stubborn as he is rn. vigvig talk xinc talk veteran: idk null
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Post by Schrodinger on Aug 2, 2020 18:46:55 GMT
unvote, vote spiderz
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Post by passthesaltdude on Aug 2, 2020 19:53:26 GMT
I said it earlier and I’ll say it again. The points were bad and I’ll admit that they were now. But some of them still stand. I’ll change my stance on ayia when they post more!
Anyways, spiderz does feel off, and that’s another slot I’d love to poke some.
Gary does feel like a town slot, I just don’t know why scum would do something so dumb.
Chad is a survivor slot we’ve covered that.
Toilet feels town from his general participation.
Idk sceptereous wall post seems good enough, it doesn’t give me the same vibes as the micro post in Trackers vs traitors. It does seem like it has a point.
I feel like it’s possible that eblurb got scum again! It’s a lot of what we’ve already seen
I’m currently on my phone so it’s hard to make points here. I’ll do more when I get back.
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Post by spiderz on Aug 2, 2020 20:03:33 GMT
It seems more like gary thought there was only 1 tourist making them a named townie. Not sure how they accounted for the missing 6 players but gary isn't a good lynch. ^This im town reading gary rn, also slight tr on vet for pointing this out
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Post by Gary The Savage on Aug 2, 2020 20:06:31 GMT
It seems more like gary thought there was only 1 tourist making them a named townie. Not sure how they accounted for the missing 6 players but gary isn't a good lynch. ^This im town reading gary rn, also slight tr on vet for pointing this out This is basically exactly why I said I tr'd Vet. They didn't say they townread me, just that I wasn't the lynch and if they were scum they could've easily taken advantadge of the lynch on me as it was and still had 3 people on it
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Post by Veteran Padgett on Aug 2, 2020 20:23:51 GMT
I read through the thread and there honestly wasn't anyone I thought was too scummy. Our unfortunate reality is that every scum player could easily have provided nothing of actual substance, or nothing at all. I think it's too early to seriously push anyone on the basis of inactivity, I mean they will get subbed, but I will start to look in places where posts are more sparse. Veteran Padgett has proof of activity, with enough spread to his posts that he has clearly read the entire thread. Despite this, he has only 5 posts, which is not in and of itself egregious, but these posts have been unproductive. 1 of the posts is a filler xinc vote. 2 of them are about my supposed over-complication of the surv claim, when in the posts he refers to I spoke of my past stances on the surv and not my current position. Another is voting for cayden because of his complete nonsense/joke(?) vote. The last is a post in which he actually does provide something of substance, saying that gary is not a good lynch from his slip-up, but he provides no reasoning for this besides "It seems more like gary thought there was only 1 tourist making them a named townie." which is the obvious alternative to gary lying. None of these posts are really bad, it is more that this is all he has. He has read the whole thread, but had minimal posting, and has often chosen to comment on one of the least important issues at the time of his post. Padgett, give us some explained reads to work with please. vote veteran padgett I'm not voting cayden for their vote. I'm voting cayden for obvious active lurking. I don't think this is a very strong response. I pushed on you in my previous post for doing little real work, and often choosing to go after the least important of topics when you did post. I think you have done both of those things here. Why exactly you pushed on cayden is not anywhere near the primary focus of my post, and while it's good that you have clarified your position on him, frankly I think you are more guilty of "active lurking" than cayden himself, as it is clear that you have actually kept up to date with the thread. ' Not sure why you are acting like chad and gary claims weren't the most interesting things that happened at the time. Just because my posts weren't lengthy doesn't make them unimportant. Re "which is the obvious alternative to gary lying": My post was in response to scept talking about how gary knew there was a PGO. I thought it was common knowledge to not claim non-prs, so I wanted to bring up the named town because from scum gary perspective believing that there is only one tourist they would just get countered if they claimed that. He could have known that there was multiple tourists the whole time and made a calculated "error" but that seems too risky for scum, plus I don't want to get involved in those kind of games on day 1. What do you think about the most active players in the game right now? Which of them are likely scum and which of them are likely town and why? Incoming post but I see cayden at least acknowledged their activity and we probably won't get anything more from him today so Unvote cayden
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Aug 2, 2020 22:52:20 GMT
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Post by cynicalcaffophille on Aug 2, 2020 22:52:51 GMT
Hey everyone! I'm cynicalcaffophille you might know me as Northstar from the discord. Give me a minute to read whats going on and then I'll post my thoughts. This is my second game here so I might not be familiar with current PS meta, but I do know the rules of mafia. I've played on other sites.
I'm pretty chatty so feel free to ask me questions! Super exited to sub for this game.
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Post by cynicalcaffophille on Aug 2, 2020 22:54:10 GMT
I'd also like to claim town.
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Aug 2, 2020 23:10:00 GMT
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Aug 2, 2020 23:13:04 GMT
hi i love posting
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Aug 2, 2020 23:22:24 GMT
unlynch Veteran their most recent post showed atleast some analytical thinking o it so like not a tr but not the right lynch today
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Aug 2, 2020 23:23:50 GMT
@micro i couldnt care less about ur omgus Vote xinc last NOC here i was in town suffered from not hitting lurker slots early i dont have a strong lynch target today i say we hit a lurker slot
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Post by cynicalcaffophille on Aug 2, 2020 23:24:20 GMT
I made a quick readlist:
I buy Chad's claim as 3p so far. It seems weird, but it doesn't seem like a scum play. Scum try to have the attention NOT on them D1. It seems like a suicide play from the town, which makes no sense unless they are the lightning rod. Are they a new player, and are they known for plays like this?
Kliff has a townlean from me. If they were scum, they would probably try for a Chad lynch N1? Idk how PS meta is, but thats how it looks to me.
Tb2 doesn't seem to be making the best decisions, but they seem like the kind of person to do risky plays.(sorry Tb2.) Tenitive townlean/3p lean, but might not act in favor of the town. Posts fluff and questionable opinions, I don't think a mafia would do that. The others would shut them down too fast.
I havn't played with Quojova before, (unless their username is different on discord) but I get a scumlean/3p lean from them. Their post in which they unvote chat is BASICALLY begging for a mafia counterclaim. Since then, they've caused a lot of drama with Chad. Seems contradictory sometimes. However, I doubt that we would be able to get a lynch with 5 hours left, so I'll talk more about this 2morrow.
PTSD has a slight townlean, but I could also see them being scum. They are being helpful D1, but not like SUPER helpful, which experianced mafia tend to do.
I have no idea what is going on with Ayia, so slight scumlean. They seem to be pretty curt here, and are playing conservitively with the Chad lynch. I wish they would give more opinions.
Lifesucc is hitting a delicate balence between shitposting and actual commentary, I don't think I'd risk doing that at a mafia or cultist. They seem to have legit points, so slight townlean. Would like to know more about their history with mafia and playstyle. Hmm, but they are leaving before EOD, which is kinda sus. Warning us is a good move though. I still townlean them.
Micromorphus is basically posting a lot of fluff.
Hmm. I can see why people would Scumlean Spiderz, that post on p3 was all hells of scummy. But please don't lynch me yet, if you give me a chance to prove my towniness, I won't let you down. You can always lynch me later if you think I am scum still.
Garythesavage goes in, makes the most basic claim ever and does nothing else. Either a noob or a scum.
Vet is a 3plean in my book. Bold move starting a new lynch out of knowhere. Doesn't seem like a scum move. Risky, I can respect that.
I agree with "lynch the people who want to lynch the survivor. Honestly, lynching Chad is a weak play, and doesn't help the town that much. We need to try to lynch scum.
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Post by cynicalcaffophille on Aug 2, 2020 23:25:18 GMT
a 'quick' readlist. but those are my 2 cents on the matter from binging the log.
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Post by Veteran Padgett on Aug 2, 2020 23:42:47 GMT
xnad - idk but I get the feeling of town ayia - Slight Town. They brought up that it is ok to lynch survivor later in the game and also added to the gary discussion. Not much from them in the second half of day 1. quo - Slight Scum. Saying that they had changed their mind about survivor even when they didn't need to. Could be a way to victimize themself. life - Neutral micro - Town tb2 - Town micro and tb2 are the most town players for me right now. chad - Survivor gts - Slight Town. The defense of their claim seems town, but they haven't done much scumhunting. They only said they tr me and when asked for more reads said that tb2 was town or solo which is hardly a read. ptsd - Slight Scum. Their read on ayia was really bad. Also told tb2 not to respond to a post that wasn't directed at tb2, which is discouraging discussion.
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Post by cynicalcaffophille on Aug 2, 2020 23:44:14 GMT
Hey Veteran, we both Scumlean Quo. You in to do a lynch?
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Post by Veteran Padgett on Aug 2, 2020 23:52:10 GMT
They aren't claiming it's a joke? ? They're saying the opposite??? I should iso quoj because a lot of what they're saying seems to have no real substance and could easily have an agenda behind it, and the defences do look more survivalist than pro-town to me at first glance, but I really need to iso this before I start making any substantial reads on quoj The parts of that post where I express my opinions on chad are written in THE PAST TENSE. I NO LONGER HOLD THIS POSITION, as is evident from my post after that. "a lot of what they're saying seems to have no real substance" is not really an accusation I can respond to, but I'll address the "the defences do look more survivalist than pro-town" part. I make no attempt to hide the fact that I would like to survive. Is that at all surprising? To some extent I think you have read my general playstyle as scummy. When I am pushed for something, I often reply comprehensively and strongly. I linked two posts below from my previous game that I think show this well. The reason I reply in this way is because from my perspective, I know the exact rationale behind every post I write, and because of that I am perfectly happy to defend them for as long as anyone wants. I am in the best position out of everyone in the game to clarify and defend my own stance, so why wouldn't I? I think your criticism might strike at something deeper than I am getting at here, in which case what exactly do you not like about how I am defending myself? ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/68270ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/68076Here is the worst instance of quo talking about past opinions. TB2 didn't even say anything about quo's read on chad in that post.
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Post by Veteran Padgett on Aug 2, 2020 23:54:21 GMT
I'd rather vote ptsd, but I would be ok with quo.
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Post by ToiletBro2 on Aug 2, 2020 23:56:54 GMT
I made a quick readlist: I buy Chad's claim as 3p so far. It seems weird, but it doesn't seem like a scum play. Scum try to have the attention NOT on them D1. It seems like a suicide play from the town, which makes no sense unless they are the lightning rod. Are they a new player, and are they known for plays like this? Kliff has a townlean from me. If they were scum, they would probably try for a Chad lynch N1? Idk how PS meta is, but thats how it looks to me. Tb2 doesn't seem to be making the best decisions, but they seem like the kind of person to do risky plays.(sorry Tb2.) Tenitive townlean/3p lean, but might not act in favor of the town. Posts fluff and questionable opinions, I don't think a mafia would do that. The others would shut them down too fast. I havn't played with Quojova before, (unless their username is different on discord) but I get a scumlean/3p lean from them. Their post in which they unvote chat is BASICALLY begging for a mafia counterclaim. Since then, they've caused a lot of drama with Chad. Seems contradictory sometimes. However, I doubt that we would be able to get a lynch with 5 hours left, so I'll talk more about this 2morrow. PTSD has a slight townlean, but I could also see them being scum. They are being helpful D1, but not like SUPER helpful, which experianced mafia tend to do. I have no idea what is going on with Ayia, so slight scumlean. They seem to be pretty curt here, and are playing conservitively with the Chad lynch. I wish they would give more opinions. Lifesucc is hitting a delicate balence between shitposting and actual commentary, I don't think I'd risk doing that at a mafia or cultist. They seem to have legit points, so slight townlean. Would like to know more about their history with mafia and playstyle. Hmm, but they are leaving before EOD, which is kinda sus. Warning us is a good move though. I still townlean them. Micromorphus is basically posting a lot of fluff. Hmm. I can see why people would Scumlean Spiderz, that post on p3 was all hells of scummy. But please don't lynch me yet, if you give me a chance to prove my towniness, I won't let you down. You can always lynch me later if you think I am scum still. Garythesavage goes in, makes the most basic claim ever and does nothing else. Either a noob or a scum. Vet is a 3plean in my book. Bold move starting a new lynch out of knowhere. Doesn't seem like a scum move. Risky, I can respect that. I agree with "lynch the people who want to lynch the survivor. Honestly, lynching Chad is a weak play, and doesn't help the town that much. We need to try to lynch scum. There is so so much wrong with this post. Doing this past midnight on mobile so bear with if formatting is off. Chad: unnecessary, unthoughtful comments. We have discussed this at length and decided that Chad is indeed surv, and this is most explicitly not a nooby/risky play. Kliff: why specifically kliff? Would you read anyone who goes for Chad lynch as scum? This is a general read that you're just saying belongs to one person. Me (tb2): please elaborate. It is very unclear what you mean/are referring to to make your reads. Quoj: am biased over this as I sr quoj (still need to iso before settling on a read), so agree, but quoj really wasn't gunning for a counterclaim, they would have just wanted to ensure there were none. Also note it was part reaction test according to them. P sure quoj has a couple lynches; you could push this. Scept: people have lives aaaaaa you cant sr someone for leaving when they need to sleep/go out. Don't really agree with the rest, but that's more a matter if opinion than anything since you have no quotes to work through. #PolicyMicro Spiderz: spiderz was doing wut I dont understand like wut. Your defense is mediocre at best. Give us a reason to tr You, don't just apologise for spiderz' actions (yh ik this wallpost is something of a reason to tr you, keep it coming). Gary: you say you've read the game. With regard to this, reread it. Its off by a mile. Vet: starting a lynch does not a town make. Would prefer if you gave some quotes of their content and went in depth as this slot is contentious. So then. My read on you (cyadkcofifje whatever) is unfort NAI. You could easily be town or scum coming in as a sub slot trying to immediately save yourself from spiderz baroness by positively influencing the game.
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Post by quojova on Aug 2, 2020 23:58:05 GMT
I havn't played with Quojova before, (unless their username is different on discord) but I get a scumlean/3p lean from them. Their post in which they unvote chat is BASICALLY begging for a mafia counterclaim. Since then, they've caused a lot of drama with Chad. Seems contradictory sometimes. However, I doubt that we would be able to get a lynch with 5 hours left, so I'll talk more about this 2morrow. I agree with "lynch the people who want to lynch the survivor. Honestly, lynching Chad is a weak play, and doesn't help the town that much. We need to try to lynch scum. I think I disagree that I had any serious "drama" with chad. Yea I made a gambity play early only hoping for a surv cc (and actually more importantly to not scare away real ccs), but I explained my exact thought process behind it in a post somewhere along the line and if you want to raise a specific issue with that, feel free too. My first two posts with chad's surv claim came up again later, but any disagreement we had between each other was resolved really quickly, because we actually had no disagreement with our current positions, it was just about how I reacted to the surv in the past. I want you to elaborate on "contradictory". If you read everything I ever said about chad as my current position, yes it's contradictory, because I never held those contradictory positions in tandem. When I said let's "lynch the people who want to lynch the survivor", it was actually a 100% joke, because no one has actually seriously considered lynching the survivor as a good idea since the end of page 2 or the beginning of page 3. The "joke" is that these "people who want to lynch the survivor" which keep being brought up haven't existed for a long time, and talking about them is wasted time. I admit that the joke is a bit hard to pick up on if you are forced to skim after being subbed in.
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