Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2014 1:05:03 GMT
Here is the place for intelligent, serious conversation regarding certain what-ifs of Mafia. We're discussing strategy and role types, as well as moments from past games on this forum, but leaving scumhunting and other run-of-the-mill mafia strategy alone for the most part unless it deserves an obvious mention due to its newly granted unorthodox nature. Come, join us.
Rules:
1) If you wish to bring up a discussion point, put it in bold. Do not use bold unless you are doing this.
2) Every post shall be a minimum of two full, complete, and concise sentences.
3) Do not talk about anything in a game that has not ended yet.
4) I'll keep a log on this first post about all current and past discussions going on. If I feel a topic has been sufficiently covered, I will post a link to the post that I feel most adequately covers the topic. If no singular post defined the entire discussion, then I will post the topic in green text and note what pages talk about it the most. All unanswered questions or unfinished discussions will be in black. Aborted discussions will be in red. This should encourage you not to post poorly-thought-out what-if questions.
5) Do not talk about any discussion that is linked or marked in red or green on this introductory page.
6) If you see that too many discussions are going on at once, please do not introduce an extra question or it will be summarily redified.
7) Not all posts have to have a question, obviously. Please post a question if you see there are too few active discussions, and refrain from adding one if there are too many.
8) THIS IS NOT A FREE TIME THREAD. Only serious discussion here. If you feel that a post is too informal, then 'like' it. If you see that somebody has liked your post, please take this as a sign that the post is to free-timey, and consider deleting it.
Example post, containing both an answer and an additional question:
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Personally, if Spieky was a Seraph knight and he had chosen to protect Drookez the prince instead of The Vexinator the doorkeeper, then the mafia still would not have been able to win. Gasquake's and Erudite's obvious action at that point would have been to kill macle the drunkard instead of rssp1 the keyholder, and igpay the palace pretty lady would have instead roleblocked the uncleared Drookez. This would have meant plurality would have applied tomorrow, far easing the process of lynch Eru, who had been suspected all game. The endgame would obviously play out just the same, but with less certain clearing on macle and The Vexinator.
I was mulling over the outcome of Mob Boss' Marvel Mafia and I got to thinking; what if certain things had played out differently? There were three defining points in the endgame that led to the final outcome, listed in order of importance: rssp1's proposal, Fort's informative claim, and the final lynch vote placed on ODM hours before deadline. What would happen if any of these three occurrences had been different?
Question: What would have happened if any combination of these three happenings did not occur?
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Log of all discussions to date:
-Fort Colorcastle: What should, logically, happen if Hiders hide behind each other?
-Citrus Freak: A cop that is only capable of targeting people who received a certain number of end-day lynch votes that day? [Page 2]
-@singapore123: What happens if a Roleblocker targets a PGO? [This and the post below]
-Citrus Freak: What does this mean in relation to PS! Mafia? [Page 3 & 4]
-Galom: When and how should Hypo Claiming be performed?
-Floette: Could this work? [page 5]
-Hobbes2: Let's say town is a situation where are potentially 3 cults and 6 town in OS Cult Mafia. Could inquisitor, at this point, come up with a false inspection under the hope that they will be culted later? [Page 6]
-Citrus Freak: Imagine a theme where it was nine death-triggered tree stumps and one death-triggered treestump mafia. Upon their lynching, they only appear as treestumps; their alignment is not given. In order to win, the remaining alive people have to nl at least once after correctly lynching the mafia. Is this balanced?
-Rabac: Is it necessarily scummy to ask people to claim to you in pm (in LH Mafia), when you arent confirmed, and when would be the best time, before you are revealed, to ask people to claim via pm?
-Rabac: Is there a comprehensive strategy for GI? [Page 7]
-Citrus Freak: What strategies could the Mafia and town use to reach their win condition in this theme? After analysis of these strategies, is the theme balanced?
Rules:
1) If you wish to bring up a discussion point, put it in bold. Do not use bold unless you are doing this.
2) Every post shall be a minimum of two full, complete, and concise sentences.
3) Do not talk about anything in a game that has not ended yet.
4) I'll keep a log on this first post about all current and past discussions going on. If I feel a topic has been sufficiently covered, I will post a link to the post that I feel most adequately covers the topic. If no singular post defined the entire discussion, then I will post the topic in green text and note what pages talk about it the most. All unanswered questions or unfinished discussions will be in black. Aborted discussions will be in red. This should encourage you not to post poorly-thought-out what-if questions.
5) Do not talk about any discussion that is linked or marked in red or green on this introductory page.
6) If you see that too many discussions are going on at once, please do not introduce an extra question or it will be summarily redified.
7) Not all posts have to have a question, obviously. Please post a question if you see there are too few active discussions, and refrain from adding one if there are too many.
8) THIS IS NOT A FREE TIME THREAD. Only serious discussion here. If you feel that a post is too informal, then 'like' it. If you see that somebody has liked your post, please take this as a sign that the post is to free-timey, and consider deleting it.
Example post, containing both an answer and an additional question:
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Personally, if Spieky was a Seraph knight and he had chosen to protect Drookez the prince instead of The Vexinator the doorkeeper, then the mafia still would not have been able to win. Gasquake's and Erudite's obvious action at that point would have been to kill macle the drunkard instead of rssp1 the keyholder, and igpay the palace pretty lady would have instead roleblocked the uncleared Drookez. This would have meant plurality would have applied tomorrow, far easing the process of lynch Eru, who had been suspected all game. The endgame would obviously play out just the same, but with less certain clearing on macle and The Vexinator.
I was mulling over the outcome of Mob Boss' Marvel Mafia and I got to thinking; what if certain things had played out differently? There were three defining points in the endgame that led to the final outcome, listed in order of importance: rssp1's proposal, Fort's informative claim, and the final lynch vote placed on ODM hours before deadline. What would happen if any of these three occurrences had been different?
Question: What would have happened if any combination of these three happenings did not occur?
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Log of all discussions to date:
-Fort Colorcastle: What should, logically, happen if Hiders hide behind each other?
-Citrus Freak: A cop that is only capable of targeting people who received a certain number of end-day lynch votes that day? [Page 2]
-@singapore123: What happens if a Roleblocker targets a PGO? [This and the post below]
-Citrus Freak: What does this mean in relation to PS! Mafia? [Page 3 & 4]
-Galom: When and how should Hypo Claiming be performed?
-Floette: Could this work? [page 5]
-Hobbes2: Let's say town is a situation where are potentially 3 cults and 6 town in OS Cult Mafia. Could inquisitor, at this point, come up with a false inspection under the hope that they will be culted later? [Page 6]
-Citrus Freak: Imagine a theme where it was nine death-triggered tree stumps and one death-triggered treestump mafia. Upon their lynching, they only appear as treestumps; their alignment is not given. In order to win, the remaining alive people have to nl at least once after correctly lynching the mafia. Is this balanced?
-Rabac: Is it necessarily scummy to ask people to claim to you in pm (in LH Mafia), when you arent confirmed, and when would be the best time, before you are revealed, to ask people to claim via pm?
-Rabac: Is there a comprehensive strategy for GI? [Page 7]
-Citrus Freak: What strategies could the Mafia and town use to reach their win condition in this theme? After analysis of these strategies, is the theme balanced?